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Yeah, it’s one thing if, say, you’re both having a giggle over the silly terms, if that’s the mood (sexytimes or not) – but someone using a term like pink clam seriously, or thinking it’s sexy, or because they’ve a thing about using the real names, would just kill whatever mood there was, for me.
I prefer silly nicknames that are personal. Mr K and I have a couple of those, but that’s the difference: they’re ours.
Damn, time to get the groceries before it gets too scorching out there.
Well, Brz, I’m not interested in being lied to, however poetically, thank you very much. It’s a bullshit maxim anyway; I write and read poetry and beauty isn’t tied to lies, it’s about expressing truth in all the best I’ve read. I would add that trotting out that maxim as support for the “door of graciousness” term suggests you think the term is a lie, which doesn’t say anything good, either.
I used to think to think that ridiculous terms are still better than clinical terms in theses situations, but as I’ve never used English while doing those things, I don’t know what “pink clam” sounds like, I find it funny, so yeah, at least it’s funny.
I’ve never used the words “pénis”, “vagin” or “vulve”, they’re just too cold, childish terms like “zizi”, “bistouquette”, “foufoune” can fit if used with a semi-sarcastic tone.
Well obviously “Can I taste your zizi” just drive the ladies *wild*.
and never is met with “Ziti? I think there’s some in the fridge if you want to heat it up. help yourself!”
“I would add that trotting out that maxim as support for the “door of graciousness” term suggests you think the term is a lie, which doesn’t say anything good, either.”
It’s a lie because we pretend that this piece of flesh is more than what it already is : a piece of flesh. It’s a lie which become true when one believes in it. That’s the beauty of it, I think.
damnit! *drives!
and I can’t say I’ve ever gone, “You know, that was pretty good sex! I wish he’d been a bit more sarcastic though! Not full-on, just… semi-sarcastic. That would have made it GREAT sex.”
sheesh.
Brz sounds like Creosote in Sourcery.
“Well obviously “Can I taste your zizi” just drive the ladies *wild*”
As the word “zizi” names a penis, not many women who will feel involved by such an invitation.
But that’s a funny thing to say, I’m a advocate for more laugh in bed.
thenatfantastic,
there’s this Southern Baptist comedian (I know, I know) named Mark Lowry, and he wrote a song about Song of Songs (the “your hair is like a flock of goats” reminded me of it) and how ridiculous the idioms are to modern-day English speakers. the chorus is horribly catchy, but now in my head this is what Brz sounds like: “Why can’t I say these things? They’re ROMANTIC!”
A lie can never become the truth. But it can become your reality.
And itt is revealing, your “piece of flesh” comment
Damn, I’m talking about eroticism with Anglo-Saxon ladies which is quite similar with talking about the taste of pork with Muslim Saudis.
Never mind ladies, take everything I said like testimony of foreign unintelligible archaic cultures.
“Anglo-Saxon”.
well, that’s funnier than “pink clam”, I’ll give you that.
I think you guys have kind of missed the button on this one. Having seen DJ Lubel’s stuff before, his whole shtick is that he’s kind of a weird looking loser who girls don’t want to go out with. He’s making fun of himself, not genuinely complaining about girls not wanting to go out with him.
Ok apparently “pink clam” is only coming off as gorgeous because I have a thing for aquatic life being stunning (and don’t eat fish or shellfish and have no clue wtf clam actually tastes like)…thanks for the “you’ll just cause laughter” tip, shall save that one for fellow aquarists and when things have already gotten hilarious.
Honestly, in practice “I’d like to taste you” alone seems quite enough, but YMMV of course. “Please do [thing] to me” also always works!
FTR, I haven’t had serious sexytimes in 5+ years, silly sexytimes are far less “wtf to say!” and far more “you are noms, can I noms you?” (Pervocracy is right, biting is shark for I
lovereally like you)Dangly bits (or genitals) aren’t just “piece(s) of flesh” though…I’m not going to bother trying explaining that to Brz, I think my back has sorted itself out enough that I can get back to my violin!
Motty, we’ve already HAD this conversation.
BRZ, I’m an anglophone but not anglo saxon. I strongly suspect that is the case with many of the posters here.
Beloved heartily endorses this site. Not only do I find it vastly amusing, but after dealing with the bullshit and trolls I’m reminded of how lucky I really am.
*plays a teeny tiny violin for Brz*
Ok, it’s a full size violin, but I am getting back to my ballad’s, I’ll dedicate this one to Brz :)
Yay for violins!
I’ve always wanted to learn how to play…
The more interesting movie I’ve seen the last years is the adaptation of “Lady Chatterley’s lover”, a great movie adapted from a great book written at an epoch in which people of the “anglosphere” had still the desire to produce beauty and keep away vulgarity.
I’ve still in memory the scene in which she takes his member in his hand saying “it looks like a bloom!” and they start laughing like children.
With all respects for the different tastes of people, the one who don’t feel touched by this scene is a poor lad who understands nothing about eroticism and sensuality.
@Argenti Aertheri
A dedication which I’ve gladly received and went right to my heart.
“People totally have different tastes and all, but if you don’t feel exactly the same way I do then you’re stupid and don’t know anything, neener neener.”
Aww so there’s no place for talking dirty in BRZs life, despite his supposed love for eroticism.
BRZ, you still have to make a case for why “pink clam” is erotic. Come on, don’t be shy!
…I really don’t give a fuck about what films you’ve watched recently mate.
I finally saw Wreck It Ralph last Sunday, I took my little sister to see it as a surprise after I decided to stay two days longer visiting her. It was great because of that. I also watched Spaceballs at a friend’s house today. Now I’m watching Spaced.
See how boring this is?
No place for clinical terms for me, dirty, slang words that’s fine, it depends, that’s just the clinical stuff that I can stand.
“I finally saw Wreck It Ralph last Sunday, I took my little sister to see it as a surprise after I decided to stay two days longer visiting her. It was great because of that. I also watched Spaceballs at a friend’s house today. Now I’m watching Spaced.”
Yeah there’s not enough details, You don’t sell these films to me right.
…I really don’t give a fuck what you say when you’re having sex with someone either.
Brz show is boring, can we talk about something else? I just got an awesome Gujurati recipe book, we went on a trip today to get a load of stuff so we can try some of the recipes out this week. What other things are people cooking at the moment?
You still haven’t sold us on pink clams.
Argenti made a pretty good case for the euphemism, but you can’t let her do your homework for you.
TheNatFantastic
A what recipe book? I have never heard of this.
I have zucchini cake in the oven at the moment. It’s a carrot cake recipe, but I swapped zucchini for the carrot, almonds for the walnuts, and diced apple for the crushed pineapple. I figure it will turn out okay.
Now I’m wondering what to do with half a can of diced apple. I was wondering if I could add it to a normal bread recipe to make apple bread in my breadmaker.
@pillow in hell.
My bad. Had to choose between reading 500+ comments and playing Skyrim.
I chose Skyrim.
@Pillow In Hell
It’s a region in India. There’s a restaurant in my home town that sells Gujurati food, it’s known as one of the best restaurants in the country and it’s their recipe book. I got to buy so many interesting things at the big international supermarket today, I was like a kid in a candy shop, except I was a grown woman getting excited about gourds and seeds. I love making curries, my hometown has a huge Indian and Pakistani population so they taste like home, but mine are never quite right so I’m hoping this book will take me up a level :)
@Kiwi Girl
Is apple bread A Thing?
I used to make a quicky thing with diced apples. The kids called it apple flip flop. Butter a baking dish. Mix up a basic crepe recipe add a bit of sugar and an extra egg and some vanilla. Pour it in the pan and sprinkle on the apples. 400 degrees for a bit. They liked it very much.
TheNatFantastic
That sounds sooo interesting and yummy!
It definitely beats my plans to make eggbread and experiment with a vegan recipe tommorrow. I’ve never had eggplant before, so I have no idea what the meal will taste like, but some of the other recipes I’ve tried in a book I got for Christmas were good.
Brz clearly also lacks a sense of irony — playing a lament for his poor loss of eroticism was well received? Or just an attempt at proving he does enjoy beauty and isn’t only claiming we don’t?
Also, I hate Bach, he’s a fucking sadist of a composer.
pillow in hell — I’d prefer gender neutral pronouns, but whatever — as long as you aren’t a troll using my assumed gender against me, I really don’t care much what pronouns you use. And of course Brz is ignoring my aquarist argument about how clams are actually quite lovely…see? (Of course, I think African lungfish are pretty cool looking, but clams really do come in a range of magnificent colors and varieties)
I usually make apple bread with apple sauce, but chunks off appple in it would be delicious! I don’t know how you’d do that in a bread maker though. By hand, I lessen the amount of water equal to the amount applesauce being used. A touch of cinnamon and allspice and you’d have a nice dessert bread.
Or you could used it to make stuffed french toast.
Chopped apples are delish in or on waffles. I adorable waffles.
There’s laughing WITH someone and there’s laughing AT them. Using sarcasm in bed doesn’t sound remotely erotic, let alone romantic.
Nice way to reveal your ignorance and bigotry, sonny Jim. You’re assuming that everyone else here is 1) a woman 2) Anglo-Saxon. Guess what:
Not all the regulars here identify as women.
Not all Anglophones are Anglo-Saxon. (If you really want facts, the English are not really Anglo-Saxon; their ancestry is still overwhelmingly Celtic, contrary to popular belief.)
Not everyone on this site speaks English as their first language.
Oh, and I am Celtic-Sorb, my husband is French, so here’s a suggestion: go fuck yourself, because you just. don’t. rate. with your attitudes.
Utterly OT, but lungfish! “I’m a fish, not an eel, stop calling me an eel! Let’s see an eel do this! *hangs out on the surface bathing air with proper lungs*”
I’m just channeling fish all other the place today huh? XD (other fish can breathe air, but usually via the digestive tract into the blood…don’t know of any other fish with fucking lungs)
@Pillow In Hell
I loooooove eggplant (and I’m vegan!) what are you doing with it for the recipe?
Argenti, I apologize for the improper pronoun. And you’re right, clams really are something to behold! I’ve only ever seen them in the brownish grey variety. The shells shape is pleasing, but otherwise not much to look at.
I use apples mixed with honey and mustard and put it on a flour tortilla heated with cheese. For breakfast.
My friendly neighborhood apple growers have a few ideas.http://www.bestapples.com/recipes/index.aspx
Mr K and I made the best pie the other day – apple and cinnamon, in flaky pastry (not filo, just not short pastry like you usually see with sweet pies now). Had it with whipped cream.
No calories, either. If only one could do all one’s eating over There! :D
Have I mentioned that I love apples and they are effing everywhere around here? Cuz yanno. I do and they are!!
Argenti, what are those little fish that live on the shoreline? They have eyes right up on the top of their heads and breathe air. I thought of them when you mentioned lungfish and I’ve completely blanked out on their name.
Do you get Royal Gala apples in the US, thebewilderness? They’re my favourite.
Last time I was in Cali my BFF and her mum and sister and I drove for a couple of hours to an apple orchard … only to find apple-picking season had finished a few days before. As my bestie said, it was a long way to drive to a market stall. :P
pillow in hell — no problem!
And y’all are about to thrill my mother — I want apple pie now, and I have one frozen, time to break out the pie! (She’s been dying to have some, but it’s mine and I don’t share my pie…it’s homemade with local apple’s by my aunt’s neighbor, not like I can just run out and buy another one!)
Oh, and what’s the bet Brz’s idea of “eroticism” is just “reducing women to body parts” – all his posts suggest it. Which isn’t erotic at all, in my book.
The NatFantastic, I haven’t decided on whether to stuff and bake them or use them in a stew… For that matter, I think there’s a marinade and fry ‘em recipe in here too.
Perhaps a stew would be best for a first try.
*says a person who does not adapt easily to new foods on plate*
*also, raised on a strict diet of white people cooking.. Two boiled veg and some type of meat either fried or roasted*
We used to have an August tradition that we loved when we first moved back home (here).
We would go up on Mt Washington and pick blueberries till we couldn’t pick any more. Cool off in the ice creek. Head back down and stop along the Hood Canal for blackberries. The closer they grow to the salt water the tastier they are. Stop for apples in an old orchard. Go over on Hartstine for oysters and right in front of the house for clams.
Then the feasting would commence. It was lovely!
@Argenti Aertheri
I don’t know, I’ve tried to introduce discretely an invitation to talk about my secret passion – medieval Arabic erotic literature – but nobody, as usual, had found it interesting, and the discussion deviated on the usual sexist/non-sexist stuff and my demon (the need for debating and calling everybody who don’t agree with me dumb or something) forced me to fall into this.
The thing about apples is that every seed grows a different tree. That is why they propagate by grafting. Most of the apples that grow along the roadsides here are not named cultivars, but seedlings. Some are fabulous and should be propagated while others are mealy or insipid. The ones in abandoned orchards are mostly the old cultivars from the thirties like gravenstines that have been around for hundreds of years.
In answer to your question, yes. Galas are cultivated here.
kitteh — idk, you can try http://www.fishbase.org/identification/classlist.php for an ID, but there are lots of saltwater fish and I only know a handful (my tanks are freshwater, as beautiful as clams are, saltwater tanks are really hard to maintain)
Pink Lady apples are the bomb!
Just like eating candy, they are so sweet. But thanks for reminding me that I have granny smith apples waiting to turn into pie!
Poor trollie was forced by his own self to be an asshat. Poor trollie. How sad for him that he forces himself and has no control over his own behavior.
Criminy!
Hey look guys, Brz had a topic buried in there that wasn’t really about reducing people to their anatomy!
Brz, try introducing your pet topic as a literature related one, we’ve got some lit buffs around (and I think a couple people who know modern Arabic)
@pillow in hell – ::fistbump:: That’s exactly the diet I was brought up on. And which I still prefer. :)
@thebewilderness – that sounds like so much fun!!! And I don’t even like shellfish, lol.
@Brz – this is a site for mocking misogyny. Nobody’s going to be impressed with you trotting out misogynistic BS even if you do couch it in terms of medieval Arabic poetry. Go find a site that caters to your interests, because misogynists are not welcome here except as chew-toys.
Brz my passion in life is embroidery, but I don’t go around arguing with the regulars here about how stupid they are because they prefer spinning or knitting.
Argenti, I just remembered the name – they’re mudskippers. Totally amphibious fish and cute little critters, too!
Kitteh, I guess that I just want some variety in the types of meals I serve. I have to cook every day, I’d like to get excited about my meals every once in a while. Plus, vegetarian meals will add some new foods that will ensure I get better nutrition. As soon as I find some meals that I want on my table once a week. Peas, carrots and corn just don’t cut it anymore.
pillow in hell, I’d go for the stew, definitely. If you don’t adapt well to new foods you shouldn’t make them the main part of the meal! If you do decide you like them, imam bayildi is a really nice and easy meal to make – it’s basically roasted aubergine stuffed with tomatoes and some herbs and spices. We have it with orzo and rocket, but it’s traditionally a side dish for lamb (I think).
Brz, no one here likes you. You don’t get to come here, to a website devoted to mocking misogyny, and use misogyny to get people to talk about your topic of choice, you dolt.
Borked the link, but it seems to still work.
RE: pillow in hell
I LOVE Pink Ladies. They were my favorite until I discovered local Honey crisp apples. (The farmer’s market would have them and OM NOM NOM I EAT THEM ALLLLLL)
Brz is like if Pell and Brandon had a baby. A really boring one.
Also, HAHAHAHAHHA, “homeless is a euphemism.” HAHAHAHAHA. No, no, my sweet child, a EUPHEMISM for that is ‘unstable housing.’ I should know. (And honestly, I like it better, because I DO have a home. It’s just not actually considered fit for human habitation. But it’s my home!)
Nat, that recipe is in the book I got!
And omnomberries are totally a thing in Guild Wars 2. :)
Then it is FATE and you have to make it (if you like it!).
LBT I like honey crisp too. Miss Gingerandry loves Fuji, but one day a cabbie suggested Pink Ladies and so now they’ve become the default snack apple.
I tried Honey Crisp apples in LA, but they weren’t that sweet – maybe not ripe enough? I like Pink Ladies too, but stick to Royal Gala if they’re around.
pillow – I like a bit of variety too, but really only go as far as pasta. Mum’s even less experimental with food than I am, so I do any different eating if I go out for lunch.
I’ve decided I like curried food, chinese food (and I found a perfect veggie fried rice recipe!its the cabbage that’s the secret) and anything with dried beans.
Last week we had tofu chili. The tofu is okay, but I think it needs to be marinated to pick up a bit more flavor before its added to chili. Chili is a bit strange without the ground beef.
Also, the book has the MOST AwESOME roasted winter veggie recipe…and its SO CHEAP! And NOMMY! And the kid likes it too!
RE: pillow in hell and Kittehs
Fuji are good, but don’t do as much for me. I hate the ED for having weird effects on my sense of taste; Pink Ladies now (at least the ones here) are sometimes too strongly flavored for me. It’s like being smacked in the face with TANGY. (Or maybe it’s just the different flavor of local apples vs. store-bought ones in a totally different region.)
And Kittehs, the honey crisp I had were pretty sweet. Maybe it was a distance thing? (Since they were locally grown.)