Which sock is that, Cassandra? Rusty Al, or are there others still more antique? It can’t be the Lord High Admiral Doctor Sir Montgomory Pell, he hasn’t told us what a genius he is and started frothing and losing his (tenuous) grip on grammar.

No, Deoridhe, we’re all dating the same guys (90% of us dating 10% of them). The angry dateless guy contingent already covered this topic in great detail.

BWAHAHAHA and I’ve been with an alpha for thirty years. I have evilly gone way above my station for relative hotness! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Pell?

No, Essie Davies was certainly more a worldly wise roué. I am now inspired to read the books. I get this way about the TV adaptation Bones.

Yeah, I’m pretty leery of a lot of TV adaptations, though some are great (P&P and the Barchester Chronicles come to mind). If you see any of the Fisher books about, you can pretty much start anywhere in the series, because Greenwood does tend to include a bit of introductory stuff in each one, or at least, enough to familiarise readers with the characters. I started with the eighteenth, I think. It was half price. :D

Phryne’s decidedly worldy-wise and she has lots of lovers (one a book until she meets Lin Chung) – she’s a great believer in enjoying the company of pretty young men. But she’s aware of age; in one book she’s going to make a grand entrance at a ball, wearing a decidedly shocking dress, and she thinks that she has one, maybe two such years of grand entrances left to her. It’s not getting-old-and-haggard stuff, more a sense that this sort of thing is for those in their twenties. I think it was really bad casting to have Davis, at forty, to play that role. She seemed very mannered and artificial in the bits I saw, and that’s so the opposite of Phryne – she’s more often described as a force of nature.

And she has a totally superior black cat called Ember, a rescued stray kitten who has the whole household wrapped around his paw, as is only right and proper.

Night kittehs, off to bed too.

I would offer him this song, but it’s really too good for him.

Then again /beck is a Scientologist, so he deserves a bit of shit for that.

On the other hand, Lio’s all about sexual assault :(

It’s pretty funny that possible sock troll brought up a. rock stars (there are none in the video – sore spot there, buddy?) and b. Chris Rock. Now, I don’t know about you, but I can think of several reasons that a woman might want to date Chris Rock that aren’t about either money or fame. He’s cute, he’s funny, he’s often very charming…but no, the hypothetical bitches who live in trollboy’s head couldn’t possibly be interested in any of that.

This piece certainly attracted a lot of trolls. Do you think it is because it’s a video so they didn’t have to try to read or because a man’s right to complain without being laughed at is just that important?

The “men are allowed to have preferences, but when women won’t sleep with me they’re shallow bitches!” topic is the greatest lolcow of online misogyny. The guys who go off when this comes up don’t seem to have any idea at all what asses they’re making of themselves.

@cloudiah: Yeah, that’s pretty much what’s happened in the last couple of days.

a. Women’s problem is finding a partner they are compatible with.
b. Men’s problem is finding any partner.

Totally. This is why a guy has never in the history of ever broken up with his girlfriend for any reason ever. He is simply grateful to have found one. Men don’t look for things liked shared interests or compatibility! That would just be dumb. And that’s real.

I also think it bears mentioning for the trolls and like who have pointed out that the women in the video are pining for rock stars or whatever and how hypocritical that is (so close to self awareness!) that those women are fictional characters that the video’s creator made – not real women. These women have fake personalities and opinions that the video’s creator impressed upon them. That’s part of why this video is gross. I think we can agree objectively that assuming that everyone who rejects you must be a bad person is a shitty thing to do.

@melody

They really seem to treat people who get married and people who date as two different groups that have no overlap. That obviously doesn’t work in the real world. (I could maybe understand the lack of overlap if they divided women into alphas and betas, that is daters and the marrying kind, but not only do they not do that, they still have no way for “betas” to go from single to married without dating.)

My thoughts on the subject are that if someone wants to have incredibly high standards, fine but don’t whine about it if you end up alone.

The male privilege evident, then, is to treat women who don’t meet his standards as though they literally don’t exist. So women say “I can’t find anyone who’s my type,” acknowledging the existence of all the other guys, but men can say “I can’t find anyone at all“–fat women, old women, and women who wear T-shirts don’t even count as people in this equation.

Or, in more academic terms, men have the privilege of erasing people who are not relevant to them.

@BigMomma: there are so many degrees of fail with the tv show Bones. I like the Kathy Reich books, but I just can’t force myself to watch the show. The main characters just aren’t credible.

@Kiwi girl

That is actually what we enjoy about Bones. It is absolutely ridiculous. :) The only thing that regularly frustrates me is the deference they pay to Booth’s positions and opinions. The white, male, straight, religious stereotype is always given a great deal of respect by the show, which continually undercuts everyone laughing at the character. It is amazing how the show goes out of its way to demonstrate that the love interest/side kick is more likely to be correct than the “brilliant” lead. In the latest episode, they practically converted her from an atheist to a believer in the afterlife. (It wasn’t quite as bad as the episode if House where the “medical” mystery seemed to be “Is there a God?” Conclusion: maybe, but it was damn close.)

I always find “I’m just asking question” funny, in that the implications is like “me, having an agenda? oh no, I’m just asking perfectly random questions” but it’s clearly bullshit.

One time I want to go troll somewhere and be a *real* Just Asking Question guy.

“Hey, nice online community you’ve got there. I was just wondering, do any of you know the capital of Zimbabwe? What’s percentage of its annual GNP does France’s military expenditures represent? Is it true you shouldn’t wear white after Labor Day? What, why are you looking at me like that? I’m just asking questions!”

I watched a few seasons of Bones. I could watch the most gruesome of dead bodies while eating lunch.

House makes me close my eyes.

Anyway, I thought Bones was a fairly typical straw-scientist and straw-atheist. Nevertheless, that episode where Booth hallucinates his old army buddy (or does he??) was way out of tone for the show, I thought.

But other times I enjoyed Booth. What’s stuck in my mind as the definitive Booth moment is when he bulls through the straw maze in that one Halloween episode.

The very resolved sexual tension all over that show kind of irritated me. What is this, a procedural or a daytime talk show? But I was glad the artist wasn’t shamed for loving sex.

*of all the males you meet. /correction for grammar

It gets really surreal when you start thinking about how he actually produced this video. The contradictions just pile up.

1: All of those supposedly unapproachable hot women are actually performers who have consented to appear with him in this video. Either they’re his friends, in which case it obviously can’t be true that hot women don’t want to hang out with him, or he’s paying them to do the video, making him one of those rich alphas he’s pretending to be jealous of.

2: His character only lacks conventional attractiveness because they deliberately costume and style him to look ridiculous. In real life he’s a relatively young, relatively slim white man. If you simply gave him a haircut and a new pair of glasses, he’d be well above the median in conventional beauty. Since he evidently knows a lot of models and actresses, I refuse to believe that he isn’t aware of this.

Basically, anyone who might be tempted to enjoy the video should actually hate DJ lubel, because it looks very much as if he *is* one of those elitist star-chasers from wealthy families he is supposedly criticizing.

Cloudiah, that article says more about PUAs than anything else I’ve ever read on the Internet.

@cloudiah

Re: the horse_ebooks article: Ahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Oh, thank you, I needed a laugh. I showed that to my co-workers and we all (male and female) had a good long snicker.

Oh man, that horse thing is genius.

There are shallow women, but what annoys me about this video is about how shallow the guys are. They only only want the pussy and get upset when women won’t spread their legs for them. The rapper doesn’t try to improve his looks or behavior (let alone see them as people), he just whines. BTW, is anyone else sick of the mentality of “it’s offensive so it must be funny/genius”?

I know this is some shameless plugging, but I couldn’t help thinking about a riff I did on an original short story which has a very similar entitled mentality (http://www.projectafterforums.com/index.php?showtopic=3612). The whole, “why can’t women put out because I demand it” one. Just don’t post on the site since it would be necromancy.

The male privilege evident, then, is to treat women who don’t meet his standards as though they literally don’t exist.

Horseshit. 600-pound orcas have men falling all over themselves for the privilege of prying open the hot sweaty folds of her thighs to get at her frothing crotch hole. They may not be O’Rourke Enormodick, but they’ll be far more than the leviathan deserves. Literally any woman in a free society has unlimited access to all the cock she wants. The saying is 100% accurate- men have to earn the approval of a woman, and this approval must be maintained, because women always have an eye out for a longer dong to latch onto. Whereas for women, they receive infinite sex, pampering, and intimacy merely for existing with a vagina.