The problem isn’t that he wants to date supermodels. The problem is that he’s insanely hypocritical about it. ‘These women are so shallow, they only want to date rich and hot guys!’ But he only wants to date them because *they* are hot! He derides them for not wanting an ‘average’ guy, but then himself makes it clear he doesn’t want an ‘average’ girl. It’s not just offensive, it’s nonsensical in pretty much every way.

If it were *outside* of a larger context that would still be ridiculous. But it isn’t, and this view is way, way too common. The movie trope that goes ‘average guy wants hot girl, but she’s dating jock’ does this commonly. When the hot girl realises that she is just shallow for liking the jock, and goes for the average guy, this is ‘character development’ for her, and basically she is a more awesome person for wanting Average Dude versus Jock Guy. But this is internally illogical because Average Guy generally only wants her because she’s hot!

Having ‘standards’ isn’t a problem, and having incredibly narrow (or ‘high’) standards is only a problem for the person who has them. The problem is then not accepting that other people’s standards don’t include you.

Glad you liked to tea, cloudiah!

I’ve had a few drinks with different bitters (or I assume because different bars) and I still don’t like them. Maybe it is the high proof they are soaked in. I don’t really like to taste my booze.

NNY is new as far as I know, but I usually don’t stay too long in the comments.
Don’t engage with NNY waste of breath.

I’m not an expert on bitters but in my uni days, we used to get up early on Sundays to drink champagne cocktails with bitters of course and watch American televangelists.
Tammy baker with mascara rolling down her face goes just fine with champagne, Cointreau and bitters. ;-)

@NNY

Like there are trends in fashion, the are trends in body shapes. They vary quite a lot across time and cultures. For example, in the 1920s in the west an attractive woman would have small breasts and narrow hips, and skinny legs. Not everyone finds the same body shapes attractive, of course, but I think it contributes to the conventional attractiveness of a person much like fashionable clothes and hairstyles do.

Another thing: the joke is not that the LA women won’t sleep with him because he’s not hot. It’s because he’s not rich and famous… note his fantasizing about getting on Glee. Since the LA women are not rich or famous, he is not a hypocrite (even in the alternate reality where this is not meant as a goof).

Is “sick of the circlejerk” like some mirror universe version of someguy? Like, they both have similar names, but this guy is annoyed by us taking a joke seriously, while someguy is annoyed while taking jokes very seriously.

Really attractive women wanting to date Chris Rock — tell us how “out of their league” they are in comparison to totally average dude wanting to date supermodels?

Actually, it’s really poor women wanting to date really rich men. Read for comprehension!

I think everyone is also forgetting the context that this video takes place in. Women and men in Western society are still not equal. For the most part women are valued solely for their appearance and little else. The whole stereotype of women wanting money comes from ye olde days where women were property of their fathers and thus it was better for them to get a rich husband and marry into a better life.

Now women work and while there are still women who buy into that mindset, many more work for themselves and or do not even want to rely on a partner at all. Most men however still believe that they are entitled to a sexually attractive wife. There’s enough research out there at this point to show that most women have high standards, but it’s usually in the personality department while for men it’s always entirely based on physical appearance (women’s biggest fear being that their date will kill or rape them, while men’s is that she will be fat).

Also, women are much more likely to lower their standards than men because it’s expected of them in Western society. Men believe they are entitled regardless of their own physical appearance and this message is constantly reinforced by society. Women are little more than prizes to be won. The reason people are upset is because this video shows a whiny little snot who is bitching because he isn’t getting the best prize in the booth even though he only can knock over one milk bottle.

/waves and an MRA leaping into an old thread: http://manboobz.com/2012/10/13/the-amazing-atheist-spits-on-the-memory-of-amanda-todd-tw-bullying-sexual-shaming-suicide/comment-page-4/#comment-257820

I don’t think he’s B____, at any rate. He could never keep his replies that short, though this guy has the art of boring his readers within a sentence down pat.

What a surprise that our jerkoff troll doesn’t include all that paragraph when he’s complaining about the “forty dates” comment:

There’s also a deep river of anger throughout “Women of L.A.”. I get it. Dating is hard. People are mean. It happens to everyone. Last year, I went on about 40 dates, all with guys who were not right for me. I paid for my own meals and my own drinks and I spent a lot of money. But, I don’t hate the entire male population of Los Angeles because none of those guys worked out – because it’s unfair to use hurt feelings and resentment to attack an entire gender.

So, fail troll is failing. Nothing about female privilege, nothing about her expecting all hot guys to fall at her feet, nothing about men who aren’t her cup of tea being contemptible for it – in short, nothing remotely like Mr Wants To Rape’s video at all.

Reading comprehension, how does it work?

Aaaand what makes you think men don’t have the exact same privilege? They can date anyone who wants to date them. The guys she dated obviously had the same opportunity to say “not my cup of tea” after the dates, and how do you know they didn’t? Everyone has the freedom to say they like someone; the someones have the same right, and both parties have the right to say yes/no thanks, whether it’s no dates, one date, whatever. Is the idea of women having the freedom to say yes or no something you have a problem with, sonny? It’s got nothing to do with the entitlement the creep in the video is showing – and that you are implicitly agreeing with, by defending him. He’s complaining about the women he lusts after not being interested in him, like they owe him something. That’s male entitlement and it’s opposite of what that critique says. Are you just trolling or are you genuinely that stupid? Go back and read Melody’s breakdown of that video if you can cope and don’t think your brain will explode from the effort.

OK. So men struggle to find a partner when women can pick and choose.

This implies that it’s OK for men to have an idea of what’s attractive but that women are arrogant for exercising that same right.

All the gentleman in the video is doing, is mocking the women’s hypocritical and sky-high standards, as poor waitresses hoping to date rich rock stars.

Assumed facts not in evidence. I.e just making shit up

I really wanted to have sex with Han Solo/Indiana Jones when I was a teenager.I am able to differentiate between fantasy and reality.

Hi BigMomma! ::waves from parts south::

I’d say it’s more you feminists who are living in a bubble of unexamined female privilege. You’ll never look because you’ve convinced yourself it doesn’t exist. Everyone else knows better.

Of course there are different types of privilege that affect different groups, and they overlap, but if you’re talking cis women vs cis men, then no, it’s the men who have privilege. I don’t think you know what the term actually means, but that’s nothing new for trolls and misogynists in general.

You still haven’t taken up the suggestion of looking at what that rape-proposing video creep wants, have you? No, because if we’re talking denial, you’re in it.

Hey, BigMomma, are you watching the Dr Blake Mysteries? I just saw the third episode and I’m really enjoying it. First Aussie series I’ve followed in ages.

Yeah, we’re the only ones awake here, it seems!

Hey kitteh, I watched the first episode and wasn’t too impressed, but gave it another shot tonight and quite enjoyed it.

Starterlife…interesting to see how they try to wriggle out of that …

female privilege bubble

Bummer, Firefox can’t open that video!

Of course we know what the “unexamined female privilege” is that MRAs like our current wanker troll whine about – the unparallelled, outrageous privilege women have gained of being able to say NO to men we’re not interested in. Specifically, of being able to say no to them. That’s what they’re frothing about, and it’s easy to see why, because they’d hear NO, and its variants of Piss Off, Go Away, Loser and Fuck Off at regular, frequent intervals.

All of which makes me lol.

It’s just like that with the Phryne Fisher books, yes! I couldn’t stick more than about twenty minutes of the series. They changed it too much and I thought their casting choices sucked (Essie Davis in particular). Phryne is a bit too good to be true on matters like sexuality in the books, though she’s given more context there – she spent time among the lesbian society in Paris after the war, and at least Kerry Greenwood has researched the history of homosexual life in Melbourne, so she’s not totally out on a limb. Mind you, having someone as conservative as Dot more or less shrugging stuff off seems hard to believe.

I could forgive a great deal for Ember’s sake, though. ;)

The maths never works.

No, Deoridhe, we’re all dating the same guys (90% of us dating 10% of them). The angry dateless guy contingent already covered this topic in great detail.