Fellas! Better hold on to yourselves, because I’ve got some terrible news for you.
Actually, you’d better NOT hold on to yourselves. Because this is the news, straight from that always 100% reliable news source, the Men’s Rights subreddit:
I wonder if manginal orgasms are still allowed?
Posted on January 8, 2013, in antifeminism, MRA, oppressed men, rape, reddit, sex and tagged men's rights, MRA, reddit, sex. Bookmark the permalink. 777 Comments.
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Clearly there’s plenty of masturbating going on on r/mr right now.
I oppose the male orgasm. No bon bons, no, uh, insert clever-rhymes-with-bon-bons-and-means-oogity-splooge.
*So I’m not going to get too worried.
(Pressed Post Comment too fast!)
What do we want?
A redefining of male sexual pleasure into a paradigm that does not necessarily require ejaculation!
When do we want it?
Not before we’re finished!
MRAs, seriously: why? Why would we care about your orgasm? Why would we even be thinking about your orgasm? I mean, if you hadn’t brought it up. Now that you have, my only thought is that I’d like you to experience it well away from anybody who doesn’t want to be involved, but that shouldn’t be a problem for you, right? Everyone’s 100% okay with you enjoying yourself by yourself or with other willing parties, so there’s no issue, right?
…
Right?
Given we’ve just had a Pellsplosion* on the other thread, shouldn’t the MRM be concentrating on mature male orgasms? I mean, they’re totally a thing.
*Unfortunate choice of word for this subject, I know, but I couldn’t resist.
Do gay men not count as “male?” Wait, just considered the source, don’t answer that.
So I’ve been doing various searches of the now.org website. Everything alphabetpal says is completely
truefalse! NOW is absolutely opposed topornographycoerced participation in pornography by adults and child pornography. NOW is completely opposed toprostitutionsex trafficking and for greater protections for sex workers. NOW has declared that allheterosexualsex without consent, or between an adult and a minor is rape.Feminists are
terriblepretty cool most of the time.So are they saying they need to be sexually frustrated to win the Manly War of Manly Manly Manliness Rights or that feminists have been sexually frustrating them so we can send them off to die for our bonbons and scented fucking candles???
Except that the “all heterosexual sex” being referred to probably just means “totally normal alpha LMR-busting sex when she’s playing hard to get”, and porn and prostitution are probably more available to the average Western dude now then they’ve ever been…
@CWS
I think it’s the second one and a reference to the “women send men out to die for their amusement, see white feathers QED” hypothesis which floats around these sorts of places.
OMG at the topic this was under (is topic the right word? I’m uncool and not on the reddit.)
Naturally there’s nothing wrong with doing away with women’s orgasms, else these guys would be up on the barricades in the name of true equality, right?
Female genital mutilation is just dandy, and women not getting orgasms during PIV (aka the only kind of sex there is) and/or with clumsy, hamfisted and penisgazing “lovers”, who learnt what “sex” is like from porn movies and expect their dates to explode from pleasure at the sight of their hairy and stinky peckers pulled out of piss-stained designer boxers… what’s that got to do with female sexuality, anyway? It’s about WEARING CLOTHES and preening like an animal in heat! Burqas, too, are an expression of female sexuality.
They masturbate every time they open their mouths. r/mr, AVfM, any other MRM site; it’s all wank, all the time.
It’s a little-known fact that, at the moment of experiencing sexual gratification at the hands (or mouth, or anus, or other body part) of another man, the male member immediately becomes a vagina.
Wait a minute.
That’s not true at all!
Fuck, equated vaginas and femaleness. I should try and not forget to not do that.
@Some Gal
Have we found the mythical left-wing radical MRA then? Because that sounds like something white cisdude trotskyists and the like say a lot.
“penisgazing”
Perfect.
Hey, expecting men to wear designer boxers is misandry! It’s a denial of manly manliness to suggest there’s something wrong with the used-to-be-white, saggy-elastic, skidmarked and piss-stained ones!
MorkaisChosen – don’t worry, vagina = woman makes perfect sense in MRM terms. They see us as nothing else and don’t even know about, let alone c are about, anyone who doesn’t fit that reductionist binary.
Hamfisted Penisgazers is the name of my band. We are rarely invited to play anywhere, don’t know why.
cloudiah – because MISANDRY, obvs!
“MRAs, seriously: why? Why would we care about your orgasm? Why would we even be thinking about your orgasm? I mean, if you hadn’t brought it up. Now that you have, my only thought is that I’d like you to experience it well away from anybody who doesn’t want to be involved, but that shouldn’t be a problem for you, right? Everyone’s 100% okay with you enjoying yourself by yourself or with other willing parties, so there’s no issue, right?
…
Right?”
Correct. I think that is a problem for them though.
Wtf though? Feminist’s oppose male orgasm? Who the fuck cares if penis-havers (or other men) orgasm? I mean, I guess I give a shit if they want to but biological/psychological can’t but that seems like it’d turn into TMI with MRAs. I definitely do not give a shit if they, or anyone else, masturbate.
To be fair, lowquacks, I know a lot of white cisdude trotskyist feminists. But some of them did need to be dragged into it kicking and screaming.
#pleasedon’tregistermeI’monlykidding
….
I loled. And then I looked seriously at my life.
Do you know that today I was swaggering down the street, singing along to non-existent music, and I realized that since I’ve discovered feminism and broken out of that tiny masculinity box my life has been nothing but roses?
I mean, except the part about realizing that all the people I know and love believe total garbage.
But, um, part of that is in how feminism has improved my orgasms.
So, y’know. These guys are just plain clueless.
Yeah, it’s certainly not all privileged trots/radical leftists, but it’s a noticeable amount of them.
“Everyone’s 100% okay with you enjoying yourself by yourself or with other willing parties, so there’s no issue, right?
…
Right?”
Willing parties.
Willing parties.
And herein is the gist of the problem.
Kittehs’ Help: Yeah, makes sense in Fake MRA Worldview, which I think is where I was going, but the possibility remained of it being read the other way and causing offence and upset and suchlike.
I think they are still really upset about the evol feminists objecting to d00dz sticking their dicks in people while those people are asleep.
I certainly read it as MRM Bizarroworld!
thebewilderness – or just the idea of insertee having any say in the matter at all.
Obviously the insertee would be anti male orgasm if they opposed such goings on.
Indeed yes. And we know from NWO that women
deliberately arousing men and refusing them sexexisting is the equivalent of rape, indeed much worse because it’s totally a thing and happens all the time.….so did that actually come from anywhere or did that guys favorite porn site just crash?
@lowquacks
It sure sounds like it. alphabetpal up there sure doesn’t seem to be on topic though, does he? Orgasms don’t seem to have a big part to play in the class struggle.
Well, according to the logic of the dude in question, sexually frustrated dudes are better soldiers… for a revolution, I guess?
The original article is definitely doing the privileged-radical-leftists thing cloudiah and I mentioned above.
Wouldn’t sexually frustrated soldiers be more likely to get distracted and make mistakes?
I mean, look at the Sacred Band of Thebes, actually. One of the most renowned fighting forces of Ancient Greece, and about as far from sexually frustrated as you can get. ;-)
@lowquacks
OH! I had no idea what alphabetpal was trying to say. (Even knowing the topic they were supposed to be discussing. I just got “misunderstanding of Dworkin, MacKinnon, argle bargle, soldiers.”
Starla – probably, lol. And after all we know “men’s rights” equal “everything must cater to my boner”.
MorkaisChosen – maybe this doucheberry just read Lysistrata and thought it was history!
) Damn parentheses always wandering away on me.
Check out alphabetpal’s comment history.
@The Kittehs’ Unpaid Help
Why do you hate white men? Basic hygiene!
@kitteh
I know it’s just so random…and I can totally imagine the computer screen flickering off and this guy screaming “THOSE DAMN FEMINISTS!”
I’m a little curious to see what the comments were to this.
Some Gal – curses, you have discovered my secret!
Good to see that Our Libertarian Constitutionalist friend is willing to forego those principles to praise socialist writers if there’s enough woman-hating involved! Seriously, the only thing US-style libertarians had going for them was consistency, and now not even that…
WASHING DETERGENT IS MISANDRY
@cloudiah
Well, what a catch! Racist, homophobic and misogynistic!
I can’t resist sharing this from his comment history:
Saying what Diogenes was getting at with his impossible bullshit. (Still bullshit though.)
The MRM trifecta – what a surprise.
Ah yes, the hair = dirty notion. Or women must be hairless. Or just incompetence. Or (kindest interpretation) spins out a bit about getting hair of any sort in his mouth.
It is a pretty standard “submit, or die” statement for the manosphere, I suppose.
@The Kitteh’s Unpaid Help
It’s a quadfecta. I kept going and found transphobia.
An infecta!
Some Gal – colour me surprised, again!
Wonder what his particular bigotry will be on the religous line? Christian bigot? Atheist bigot? Surely it’ll be in there somewhere.
lowquacks I nearly splurted my tea on the desk then, thankyouverymuch!
Here’s a fun theory btw:
Yes, I’m sure that’s why women claim they can’t orgasm vaginally. Because you are too unimaginative to come from anything other than PIV. Who hasn’t heard of 69 at the very least?
Oh, no, I missed Pell? Darn it. Why is he online now? He usually only posts early in the morning before he has to catch the school bus.
Oh, I found the answer. He earlier said his penis is too large for oral.
So…um…there’s that.
Wait am I in trouble now for liking to orgasm?
Cause I feel that they probably dislike the fact that my makeout buddy does it manually and not PIV……Of course maybe my makeout buddy has been brain washed by us feminists.
Some Gal – there’s an eye-rolling theory. And I bet he’d never think of pushing anal sex onto a partner, noooooo.
Oh, not the I Have a Huge Dick line. What is he, fourteen?
First Test for being an MRA: defend your sexual incompetence! Let nothing inform you or broaden your horizons! Mutual enjoyment is a feminazi illuminati lizard people gubmint conspiracy!
He’s about 37 and married with kids if he’s being honest. (And since he thinks his wife is too fat!, I’m inclined to believe him.)
And now I feel like a stalker.
Gakk, what a creepy upbringing for those kids.
While I hate the idea of boys being raised with those toxic ideas, I still really hope that he just has sons. It would be horrible to be his daughter. There’s no way, I think, to mask all that disgust.
I hate when children are raised in such environments.
I work with high risk kids and many of them were raised in very negative environments.
Nobody ever hamfists my mangina :( what about the mennnzz? (sorry)
I just cringe at the thought of what any LGBT kids would go through in households* like that.
* “Home” doesn’t really seem the word in this case.
This is just standard MRM crap. Women use porn and sex workers, too.
(Plus all the other arguments on this thread^)
Oh god, MRAs raising kids.
Oh, that’s precious. No penis is too large for oral, and I say that as someone who has a very small mouth and a strong gag reflex. This sounds like something that someone who doesn’t know what he’s talking about would say.
I feel like WTF Price had a post not so long ago about how good soldiers are super MANLY and get laid in a MANLY way all the time (i.e., they rape women) and therefore women shouldn’t serve in combat.