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This Just In: Reddit MRAs don’t know shit about rape prevention, but still have strong opinions about it

So over on the Men’s Rights subreddit, the top post at the moment (with more than 370 net upvotes) is a link to this image:

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If I might hazard a guess: that’s because IT HAS YOU NUMBSKULLS.

Sigh. Let’s look at a little chart showing the striking decline in the incidence of rape we’ve seen in the last 30 years.

rapedecline

This is based on data from the National Crime Victimization Survey. Some have criticized the survey’s methodology and say that it undercounts the incidence of rape, but even if that is true, the trend is clear: Rape has declined significantly over the past three decades, and I think it’s fairly obvious that increased awareness and understanding of rape, largely the result of feminist anti-rape campaigns, has contributed significantly to this decline.

Naturally, those who tried to point this out in r/mensrights found themselves downvoted.

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Posted on January 3, 2013, in antifeminism, feminism, hundreds of upvotes, misogyny, MRA, pig ignorance, rape, reddit and tagged , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 315 Comments.

  1. I missed that comic. Love the hat.

  2. A dear friend of mine had a beautiful orange kitty named Sherman, who was as dumb as a rock but incredibly affectionate and fluffy.
    Here’s Shermiepie not too long before he died, poor dear.
    And here’s my sister holding Molly, my girl tabby. Yes, that is the kitchen wallpaper I grew up with. This may explain many things about my personality.

  3. Kitties! Wow, that wallpaper is deafening.

  4. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    Whoo, kitties and super 70s paper!

    ::fetches sunglasses::

  5. Since he has almost the right coloring you could name him after this little guy from The Great Yokai War.

    (I know we were talking about issues with Miike the other day, but Yokai War is awesome. It’s for kids so there’s no creepy weirdness.)

  6. You should have seen the wallpaper in my bedroom. No pictures, sadly.

  7. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    ::shudders::

    Sounds like the “How do you get to sleep with that?” variety.

  8. I wanted Star Wars wallpaper for a while but my parents very sensibly limited me to a duvet cover, pillowcases, and curtains.

  9. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    Oh my!

    I was lucky, the bedroom I had longest as a kid had wood walls, so I was able to stick stuff all over them without wrecking paint. Maddening thing about the house we’re in now is that the lease says no pictures stuck or hung up at all. I tried those suction-cup picture hooks but they just fall off. :(

  10. ^^^ That drives me crazy, Kitteh! You want me to pay stupid money to live in your stupid house and I can’t even adorn the stupid walls with some beauty?????

  11. “At this point we should probably respond to any new troll with a silly name and an obvious desire to upset people with “Hi, Mr Al. You’re still banned”.”

    Lol, YES!

  12. Kitteh — I’ve had good luck with these — http://www.command.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/NACommand/Command/

    Don’t bother trying near anywhere humid though, the ones by my fish tank lasted only a matter of days (the ones holding up art elsewhere work great though)

  13. I missed that, and seem to have closed that thread. I’m assuming it was Al, and he was his usual clueless self?

  14. For lighter objects you can try the adhesive putty they use for museums. Museum Tack, and it’s ilk.

  15. Pecunium, it’s this thread, go back a page :)

  16. “For lighter objects you can try the adhesive putty they use for museums. Museum Tack, and it’s ilk.”

    Ah yeah, the blue stuff, works great on posters and papers and the like. Not so much for mounted canvas, hence my use of command strips.

  17. Pecunium, it was the twit trying to have a go at me and Mr K – you answered him. It was worth having that jackass (whether Mr Al or not) show his ass so badly to read all the responses! :)

    Thanks to you and Argenti re: the wall hanging stuff, I’ll see if they sell those or equivalent products here. If it’s something I can peel off easily, I can pull stuff down when we have our *&^%^%$ six-monthly house inspections.

    I’ve found one way of getting some stuff up is putting a drawing pin or similar on top of a door or pelmet and hanging it from a cord or chain attached. Rather necessary for calendars (and one has to have calendars because kitty photos).

  18. What I didn’t see was him getting banned.

  19. Dave didn’t post about it, I just dropped him a line.

  20. Ah…. All is now clear.

  21. Just a rant and it seems the best place in the most recent threads:

    I have a pal from high school who posted a problematic sign about DV from something called Sick Humor. It was vile and victim blaming. Well I called him out on it, yet he claims since everyone he knows thinks it is funny, he was going to delete all my naysaying.

    I ultimately deleted my posts but sent him a pointed PM saying that it is quite clear why what he posted was not funny. Here is example A. And since there are over 124 people on his friends list, he probably knows at least one person who is a victim of DV. Maybe they would think it is funny but good grief, why is it that people still think it is hiiiiisterical to make fun of victims?

    AAARGH! And this has been my rant of the day. Thank you for listening and pick up a cookie from the microwave (protection from the kitties) on your way on to the next post.

  22. Your rant is a good cause of ranting, and kittehs and cookies are always good (well, except when the kitteh is a trap…”she no trap, she kitteh” — my brother)

  23. Princessbonbon, thanks for standing up to your pal. It’s hard to speak up sometimes, but it makes it easier for the next person to do so, and so the momentum builds.

    And I’ll take one of those cookies, thank you! (I keep mine in the toaster oven so the kittehs don’t get them, or wrap them in aluminum foil.)

  24. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    Kudos to you, princessbonbon.

    ::nom nom nom::

  25. Princessbonbon: Standing up is hard, esp. when it’s in a community you like, or people you are close to/friends with.

  26. Hey Kittehs! You’re in Australia, right? Random question: what time is the sun setting this time of year where you’re at? It’s for a story thing.

  27. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    In Melbourne it’s setting around 8.45 at the moment. :) Would you like a link for reference?

  28. Thanks-I am worried about the job but you know, if I have to take my lumps, I think it is worth it.

    At least the other issue I was dealing with has kind of half assedly gone away. Time for a Mel Brooks Marathon!

  29. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    Worried about the job? D’you mean this classy person is your senior at work or something? I has a confused.

  30. RE: kittehs

    No worries, just checking. Writing a story in an alternate dimension of New Zealand, wanted a quick memory brush-up for what general time of day the sun set during summer.

  31. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    Gotcha. I just looked out of curiosity at NZ – Auckland’s the same as us, Wellington about nineish. So yeah, all pretty similar.

    ‘Course we’re on CeilingCatAccursed daylight saving at present, so it’s really only 7.45 here. Do they use daylight saving in NZ or are they sensible?

  32. I have a position where taking a strong stance on anything can cause problems.

  33. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    :(

  34. Concerning the case in India, I found a comment in the Spiegel in which an indian activist remarked that what she thinks makes this case spin is that a group of underclass men raped a middle class woman.

  35. @Princes Bonbon – Good for you. The more people that stand up to this shit, the more people will be inclined to follow your example. I have done this quite a few times recently in relation to rape jokes (or worse, a complete cotton-headed-ninny-muggins who said to his thousands to twitter-people “you know that girl that everyone knows who has been raped? Well I don’t believe the c**t, Acting like it gives her some respect in a room”). *shudder*

    And it sucks that you are usually the one that feels crappy after such exchanges (like really? I should feel bad for saying “please do not mock rape victims”?). But there will be people that will see you standing up, and may think a bit more deeply, and even be the one to call someone out in future.

    P.s. : Re above cotton-headed-ninny-muggins – he is v difficult to stand up to as he is a rapper with many little fanboys and girls. I usually get abuse for being the one to say ‘not cool’. I am, however, methodically getting screenshots of every scrap of misogyny and rape-apologism that he spouts out of his self-important word hole, and I WILL take him down some day. I’m thinking massive posters containing every shitty horrible thing he has said, posted all around the places he has gigs. And that’s just for starters.

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