Happy Damn New Year!
Happy New Year! I’ve spent the day so far lazing around, eating leftover pizza and listening to music. And that’s about all I’m going to do, I think.
I’ll be back at work blogging tomorrow.
In the meantime, does anyone have any especially fond memories of Tom Martin and/or Steele from the past year?
Oh, and here’s a video from an Old School New Wave band called Polyphonic Size. It was 1983. They were from Belgium.
Posted on January 1, 2013, in off topic, open thread. Bookmark the permalink. 482 Comments.
I spent much of the day sleeping. I plan on sleeping more soon.
Idk what thread it was, but the ten pages of Steele’s goalpost shifting regarding the definition of misandry basically defined tedious.
As for the new year — angry birds and pocket frogs (Pecunium, I totally blame you for my wasting ~3 hours on the latter!)
Wait, did I miss the announcement of MB Troll of the Year?
Tom called me “too big of a cunt” for Manboobz. I’ll treasure that always, and would really like that on a t-shirt.
My favorite Steele moment was Butthorn, and his anger about us believing Dave, not him, when he was outed as a sockpuppet… followed closely by his, “oh, didn’t you all know I was Varpole with a new name”.
cendare – no, it hasn’t been announced yet. Someone’s been slackin’ off and eating pizza. ;)
I got a chunk of writing done AT LAST on New Year’s Day, and am back at coughworkcough now.
Leftover pizza? HA! I made Lasagna Bolognese, which I’ve been wanting to make for a while.
I am so glad 2012 is over. May 2013 be better!
Tom Martin won my vote with his female penguins are whores line. That alone.
@princessbonbon – are you channelling this cat? This time-lapse video covers five hours. :D
Pizza would have been good. I made some cookies last night but they did not taste right.
Yep, that is me!
:D
I was just thinking that if only that jackass who was supposedly scared to send his sons to Canada had been a troll here, he’d have been in the running for TotY. Because without him, there would be no Pierre!
I documented one pretty fun Steele-inspired run here.
I actually inspired that Tom Martin “Female penguins are whores!” outburst IIRC, so I am pretty fond of that. He stopped being funny when he started talking about the sexual abuse of children. 0_0
Made that for Christmas dinner, it was excellent.
There was also his, “I had to close my blog because Dave didn’t dox me”, followed by his blog restarting.
Can anyone find the thread where Steele described himself as semi-successful and semi-attractive? Or something like that? That was a blast.
What thread did Steele/his socks get outed on again? Sorry, I’ve been reading through old manboobz threads on my commutes to work, and that one sounds HILARIOUS. (As a lurker, I’m excited to learn the Troll of the Year awards!)
My favorite moment with Tom was when I very gently alluded to his receding hairline and he responded by accusing me of having a “receding personality”. The childish petulance made a nice change from his usual go-to insult.
For Steele, the gradual evolution of the Ella saga was a highlight.
Pity he didn’t go for the trifecta with semi-intelligent! :D
Semi-intelligent would be overstating it a bit. Perhaps he didn’t want to be seen as boastful.
Butthorn got outed in “This is female privilege” is comedy gold! which was his first appearance.
I’d forgotten “synagogue of Satan”.
Seconding the fact that that was hilarious.
Oh boy. Claiming David changed Owly’s charming rants about eight year olds being sluts and so on? Flipping between saying how reasonable and cogent his posts are and saying he’s a kook who doesn’t represent the MRM. And totally, totally not grasping the concept of “jokes”.
You’re right, Cassandra, semi-intelligent is too kind!
It maybe that it wasn’t. I rushed my reskim, and memory may be failing me.
Synagogue of Satan sounds like it should be performed by a Metallica covers band made up entirely of neo-Nazis.
Too many good moments to count.
Obviously, I am a total Steele fangirl.
Penguin whores is the kind of thing you can’t make up. Or rather, it’s so weird it sounds made up.
How about a plaque?
Manboobz Too Big of a Cunt of the Year Award (for Outstanding Achievement in the Field of Excellence and Cuntitude)
Something like that.
Happy New Year! Gay camp was awesome and I met a young man who I wil be seeing again…
On the “I want this on a t-shirt” subject – I see people saying things of that ilk, and a friend of mine is looking to raise money for chest surgery (he is a trans man) and I wonder if itd be worth selling fabric painted t-shirts and throw pillows (hat tip to Captain Awkward) to help him get some funds.
My favorite moment was Pell trying to pass a photo of Montgomery Clift off as himself in the 80s.
Penguin whores. That and that alone. Everything else veered between unfathomably weird and outright disgrace.
Oh katz, that was side-splitting.
I wish I’d been around during the Uncle Monty Pell debacle! Just reading it later was ROFL material.
My friends at google tell me that the jesters fool is the name of an album by a hate group that you can buy on Amazon for 99 cents. http://www.amazon.com/Jesters-Fool/dp/B0028IPQ7O
A group so totally unknown that Googling their name only brings up things like “Why do people hate Rush Limbaugh?” (which is a whole class of stupid by itself).
Or … has Roissy decided to form a band? The mind boggles!
Oh wait, Roissy was the histrionic jester, sorry. Jester’s fool was ol’ Steelebutt.
You can tell that album is going to be comedy gold* just by the album cover. Check out the font.
*Unintentional division
Unintentional Division, the band they formed before Joy Division!
One of the classic Steele moments was when he blamed his painful inability to write decent English on a single female teacher’s vile MISANDRY.
I’d love to know what really happened, because I don’t for one second believe that anyone would actually claim that men can’t write with a straight face, as it’s so easily and in most cases instantly disprovable. I suspect the truth is more likely to be a case of sarcasm whooshing right over poor little Torvus’ head, assuming this conversation ever happened in the first place.
She prolly corrected his grammar and he was scarred for life.
Or told him the brutal truth that he’s a godawful writer and should not try doing it for a living. Not that I can see a teacher saying anything remotely like that in real life. But then, Steele and real life are barely on speaking terms.
I’m picturing something more like the following.
(Imagine this exchange happening via email)
Teacher – Henry Miller wasn’t actually a very good writer
Steele – Excuse me? Perchance, are you; saying that men, as a group, as it were, in fact, cannot write?
Teacher – No, I just think that Miller is overrated.
Steele – Vile misandry! You m-feminist, how could you say; that?
Teacher – Um, what? Also, while we’re on the subject of writing, we need to have a chat about your use of semi-colons.
Steele – You have crushed; my dreams of being a writer. I hope you’re proud of yourself, you evil harpy.
@thebewilderness
What makes you think that’s a hate group? Because it has ‘hate’ in the name? Think about how that sounds.
Bwahahaha!
It could take place face to face y’know. I’m sure Steele uses audible semicolons when he talks.
Now if only it’d been a male (mangina?) teacher, it could be another job for a time-travelling Pierre!
Happy new year from Pierre.
You know that annoying finger gesture some people use to indicate quotation marks? Now I’m trying to imagine one for semicolons.
PIERRE HAS A KITTEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Is there any sort of government body that handles complaints about teachers? If so Pierre could have been answering the customer service line.
Sad sad sad, the Catholics at pathos are defending the popes right to support the anti gay killing policy of Uganda, cos we all know the pope LOVES the gays mmm right?
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/badcatholic/2013/01/the-disgrace-of-papal-blessing-for-ugandan-homophobia.html
Cassandra – maybe a similar movement, but with one finger and the arm held at waist level?
@Cassandra
State inspectorate? I’m guessing, if it’s a public school, it’s under the supervision of the state. Here at least (and neighbouring countries), teachers also have a state board/licensing agency. Parents can complain with them too. If the parents complain to the inspectorate about a general issue, the inspectorate will deal with it. But if they complain about a specific teacher, they’ll be forwarded to the agency who sends their people to investigate whether said teacher does their job right.
(Google gives me NBPTS for USA, but I don’t see any complaints number. Then again, our agency also has it well hidden. You would not believe the sh*t parents complain about, and these people are obligated to investigate every complaint.)
You know that annoying finger gesture some people use to indicate quotation marks? Now I’m trying to imagine one for semicolons.
Make a “V” and stab the air in front of you. Voila, the “Visible Colon”. You could sort of hook the middle finger down to make a semi-colon.
Ice, there is no real oversight body for teachers in the US. States have some control over credentialling them, but even that can end up delegated to local boards/districts (the Los Angeles Unified School District used to do in-house credentialling. It wasn’t portable to other districts, but Calif. allows for such a limited certificate. They are the largest school district in the state, serving hundreds of thousands of students).
And each district/school determines how to discipline teachers.
Duuuuude! That must sound like bureaucrat nightmare!
As much as I’m all for personal liberties and rights and freedoms and whatnot, I’m super relieved that there’s an organisation that writes down the things I must do, with my subject it’s practically up to the words I’m allowed and not allowed to use. Might sound like a dictatorship nightmare, but there’s a thing being a physicist and loving to have all the rules laid down before you. :P By other physicists, luckily. I suppose the fact that I’m a friend with the woman who wrote the national curriculum for elementary school physics definitely helps. I know she did it first and foremost to protect the rest of us. And the state inspector for physics teachers with the Agency is super awesome too. At the end of our certificate testing… he gave us cake. :3
While I’m at it, mind if I rant for a second? There might be curse words. I apologise, but I think I’ll explode.
In short, our government FINALLY implemented the curriculum for sex ed. They called it “health education”, and it consists of 4 modules (one of them for healthy diet. And there’s nothing better than to tell 13 year old girls they should count their calories *gags*), last module is sex ed, finally. And it has horrible, super awful stuff like kids masturbate, and that’s NORMAL. There’s homosexual people, and they’re people too and things they do in bed is NORMAL. And, shocking enough (even for me! I never thought anyone would MENTION this!), that there’s a difference between sex and gender, with a short mention that some people are not the gender of the body they were born in. AND IT IS NORMAL.
… can you imagine what kind of a fucking ruckus this curriculum is causing? I ignored most of it, even when our Cardinal spent the Christmas mass shitting against our politicians AND ESSENTIALLY CALLING THEM STUPID MEANIES BECAUSE SEX ED (that showed more about what Cardinal is made of, if you ask me). But just today… Croatian Helsinki Committee (that’s essentially our biggest human rights organisation) wrote a public letter essentially saying how sex ed in the curriculum is WRONG and AGAINST HUMAN RIGHTS.
Why? Because Human Rights Declaration says: “Parents have a prior right to choose the kind of education that shall be given to their children.”
That’s rich, coming from a country where home schooling is illegal and only state certified and controlled schools are allowed to operate. And only following the national curriculum.
And where there were numerous hate crimes against the gays. And there are actual documented cases of children being taken away from their parents after they hooked up with same sex partners. And where the government signed a contract with Vatican 15 years ago making Roman Catholic religious class de facto obligatory in all state schools.
@Ice
Sorry to kinda ignore the rant part, but that sex ed sounds glorious. I am just gonna pretend we have that in the US for a few minutes to make myself happy. Sigh.
Wow, I’m genuinely impressed that they’re talking about gender identity. I wouldn’t have expected that.
Actually, that “Haterush” band doesn’t sound like a hate group to me, from what little I’ve listened to them so far. They just sound like a generic metal band with an unfortunate name. And a budget so low they can’t afford to get some artist to make a painting of a warrior for their cover.
I knooooow! It sounded too glorious! They even talked with queer organisations and LISTENED. Added some pro queer literature for teachers to read and everything. Last time government tried sex ed, they ordered abstinence only and even the students complained it was crap.
Church and parent organisations have been throwing a collective fit ever since September. But I *seriously* lost it this morning, when the public letter by the Helsinki Board went through the media. Human Rights Declaration is the sole reason they exist, and yet it seems as though they actually never read the damn thing.
“Teacher – Um, what? Also, while we’re on the subject of writing, we need to have a chat about your use of semi-colons.”
Please? I’ve tried, repeatedly, with examples, and it just goes right over Steele’s head.
Speaking of sex ed, my pro-life republican mother was telling me about a 14year old who gave birth and killed the baby, and is being tried as an adult. My mother thinks this is BS because the girl was taught abstinence only “sex ed” and didn’t know what to do.
This gives me a glimmer of hope that at least some republicans do not think the world would implode if teachers put condoms on bananas. (US here, Ice that does sound glorious, and the fall out horrible, I hope someone says hey can shove it, the curriculum stays as written.)
Just dumping this in the newest thread because it’s kinda cute:
@argenti
I am not pro-life or republican, but not killing babies (outside the womb) doesn’t seem like the kind of thing that would be taught in sex Ed, abstinence only or not. I can see how getting pregnant would be something she wouldn’t know how to to handle, but then carrying it for nine months and then killing it? I’m sorry, I can’t dig up any sympathy on that.
Hey Boobzland! Had a nice New Year’s? I did – consumed some EggNog, attended various gatherings of people whose company I enjoy, and made some progress on The Fountainhead.
And then I logged onto the Internet to find that Erin Pizzey has joined A Voice for Men. Icing. I do believe 2013 is shaping up to be the Year of the Movement.
@Starla: at 14. At 14 she was taught only that she had to carry the baby, and that she was a hopeless slut for getting pregnant. She was indoctrinated into a way of thinking that utterly hated her.
…at 14.
Think about some of the implications there for a minute.
Starla, it’s this “I can see how getting pregnant would be something she wouldn’t know how to to handle” and the being tried as an adult part. Certainly she should be tried, but it’d be nice if shit like this means they change sex ed so it teaches wtf to do if pregnancy happens (OMGS, abortion, it is an option here! The world might explode if schools taught that) — and, of course, how to prevent pregnancy in the first place.
Thank you Howard, killing a baby you know you could’ve aborted, or give up for adoption, that’s one thing. Killing a baby you’ve been told you’re a horrible slut for having, a kid your parents will hate you for having…there’s a reason there are safe haven laws, but they work a hell of a lot better if women know they can use them. And well, can go anywhere without their parents driving >.<
In short, it’s a whole lot of fucked up all around, and very wrong for it all to fall on her young shoulders.
@howard
I am thinking about it. And I agree that’s terrible. But if she was already considered a hopeless slut, she either could’ve chosen abortion (not something that culture smiles upon I’m sure, but still not as bad) or adoption (still be shamed but at least then not as a murderer, and the child lives). But how on earth was killing her baby going to undo her being shamed?
Under what circumstances should a 14-year-old ever be tried as an adult for anything?
@katz
Murder?