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A Voice for Men publishes a post by racist blogger Pamela Geller, whose Islamophobic writings helped to inspire Norwegian terrorist Anders Breivik [UPDATE]

Some of Pamela Geller’s other work.

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UPDATE: AVFM has taken the post down.

Men’s Rights Activists have had a serious hate-on for the Southern Poverty Law Center ever since the hate-group-monitoring watchdog wrote about the misogyny in the Men’s Rights movement last spring.

Since the SPLC devotes its time to ferreting out bigots and exposing them to the world, this has put SPLC-hating MRAs in some interesting company. While not everyone who’s criticized the SPLC is a bigot – both Harper’s magazine and the Nation have been critical of the group and its fundraising methods – many of the most virulent critics of the SPLC are far-right racists. On Reddit, for example, the anti-SPLC subreddit, called simply SPLC, is dominated by white nationalists; indeed, at the moment, one of the top links on its front page is titled “Interest for White Student Union grows.”

You would think that MRAs trying to portray their movement as something other than a hate movement would try to disassociate themselves from those blatantly preaching racism. But some MRAs seem unperturbed to find themselves in the company of allies like this.

A case in point: A Voice for Men, which has just republished an anti-SPLC post by Pamela Geller, a far-right racist whose virulent Islamophobia made her Norwegian terrorist mass murderer Anders Breivik’s favorite English-language blogger, and whose latest provocation involves subway ads implying that Muslims are “savages.”

The opening sentences of her post (which can also be found on her blog) will give you some idea of Geller’s style:

The communists over at the Southern Poverty Law Center are among the gravest threats to freedom in the United States … The enemedia eagerly laps up and repeats their designation of pro-freedom groups as “hate groups,” and uses this designation as a propaganda tool to demonize and discredit us.

You may also recall the weasel-worded not-quite-justification for Breivik’s rampage she published on her blog shortly after the murders, describing the victims as

the future leaders of the party responsible for flooding Norway with Muslims who refuse to assimilate, who commit major violence against Norwegian natives, including violent gang rapes, with impunity, and who live on the dole… all done without the consent of the Norwegians.

Next to a picture of camp attendees taken before the massacre, she wrote

Note the faces which are more Middle Eastern or mixed than pure Norwegian

She later removed this bit, but you can see it screencapped here.

For more on Geller and her odious ideas and actions, see this profile from, yep, the SPLC and this piece in Slate. Heck, in the wake of her “savage” ad campaign, even Fox News is beginning to distance itself from her.

Geller’s post is getting a similarly chilly reception in the Men’s Rights subreddit – and even some of the AVFM regulars are put off by her extreme Islamophobia.

But for AVFM head honcho Paul Elam, it looks like any enemy of his enemy is a friend, so long as they’re angry enough about it.

Indeed, it seems as though Elam read Geller’s post so carelessly that he didn’t even notice that the bulk of it was actually a quotation of an SPLC “expose” by James Simpson of the right-wing Capital Research Center. Apparently a quick skim of a blog post and a glance at the rest of her blog was all the “due diligence” AVFM did before climbing into bed with this particular political bedfellow.

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Posted on September 30, 2012, in a voice for men, MRA, oppressed white men, paul elam, playing the victim, racism, reactionary bullshit, reddit, splc, terrorism and tagged , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 171 Comments.

  1. Oh, I see. Agenda 21 is something form the UN, and in NWO reads it as “KILL THE WHITE CHRISTIAN MAN.”

  2. I think Agenda 21 is like Area 51, but instead of keeping aliens there they keep members of the Rothschild family.

  3. Actually I shouldn’t mention Area 51 in front of Slavey. I’m sure he has theories about that too.

  4. captainbathrobe

    @ hellkell,

    Agenda 21 has to do with sustainable development. It came out of the Rio conference in 1992. It’s completely benign, as far as I can tell, so naturally the tin-foil hat brigade is absolutely sure that it’s a blueprint for UN-dominated world government, or some shit like that. It’s right up there with fluoridation of the water supply on the wignut hit parade.

  5. @Captain Bathrobe: thanks. I see the Tea Party is against it because arglebarglepropertrightssomethingorother.

  6. Is this another Left Behind thing where there’s no point in making things sustainable because most of us are going to die and the ones who count will be raptured?

  7. captainbathrobe

    I think it amounts to: liberals like it, therefore we hate it. Maybe we should start talking about how much we like sexism, racism, homophobia, religious bigotry, and exploitation of workers. Worth a shot.

  8. captainbathrobe

    Cassandra,

    I think it’s more about the fear of UN black helicopters coming to take away our freedoms. Because if there’s one thing we don’t want, it’s black helicopters. Presumably, white helicopters would be perfectly fine.

  9. Some day I will understand how the minds of conspiracy theorists work, but clearly today is not that day.

  10. @captainbathrobe

    I just watched a segment of the Daily Show where Jon Stewart said “if Michelle Obama said that we needed clean air to breathe, there’s a significant proportion of the population who would demand gills because ‘BIG GUHVMENT!'”. Nail. Head.

  11. I tried to make a tinfoil hat for my cats to wear last night. It was not a success. Let me rephrase that: The hat was a success, but making my cats wear it did not go well even though I patiently explained that if they let me photograph them wearing the hat they could well become a viral internet meme.

    I am not sure cats understand the vital importance of internet memes.

  12. captainbathrobe

    The other day on Facebook, a friend of a friend actually stated that Obama was against Medicare because it was a part of the medical system that was beyond government control. I shit you not. I couldn’t resist pointing out that Medicare is, in fact, a government program–a single payer system that is only open to seniors and some of the disabled, financed by payroll taxes. Medicare is, of course, far more socialist than anything Obama has ever proposed. Surprisingly, I received no response.

  13. CB: LOLwut? Is this person one of those who was going to move to Canada if “Obamacare” was upheld?

  14. @someguy

    I am annoyed with you because you seem intelligent enough and are a journalist with platforms the rest of us don’t have that you could actually make reasonable criticisms of his site and others instead of going for the low hanging fruit and cheap shots.

    The MRM is not a tree that bears fruit up high, it is a crawling creeper that has awful fruit, like some sort of hateful strawberries. Low hanging fruit is all there is.

  15. *awards CaptainBathrobe today’s Honorary Internet for Best Use of a Harry Chapin song*

  16. captainbathrobe

    @drst,

    I’d like to thank the academy, my parents, and Satan, Prince of Darkness, my never ending source of inspiration. Peace out, y’all!

  17. captainbathrobe

    @hellkell,

    To be fair, I think he had a problem with Obama’s supposed opposition to Medicare Advantage, which allows Medicare recipients to subscribe to private plans under Medicare. Supposedly, this is due to Obama’s desire for the government to control all aspects of our lives, or something. I don’t know if Obama is even opposed to Medicare Advantage (it’s a popular program), but one objection that’s been raised is that it costs more than traditional Medicare, since inserting private insurers as middle men, surprise surprise, drives up costs. Of course, that’s so at odds with the Government Can’t Do Anything Right narrative that I think his head would have exploded it I’d mentioned it.

  18. This usage bothers me because it assumes there is a rational way to hate a group–I see the excessive (NOT BY ANYBODY HERE, but in other forums) nitpicking about “phobia” and what it DICTIONARY means to be irritating. X-phobia doesn’t have to always be violently expressed to do cultural work against a group.

    Ah sorry, I meant “hate” colloquially, rather than politically. I.e. “I hate brussels sprouts” rather than “I hate Jews”.

    I have few, if any, positive feelings for religious fundamentalists, unabashed racists, misogynists, free marketeers, or modern-day Republicans. That said, I try and get along with them in person when necessary, and neither engage in any actively destructive behaviours towards them that I would not accept in return, nor support legislation which targets those groups to the exclusion of other bad actors.

    P.S.: Thanks for the name complement. :D

    I too have a rather odd bug phobia. Moths. I know, I know. Pathetic. I’ve just had too many land on me, blunder into my face, cast sudden giant shadows when I’m trying to read, and leave their giant rotting corpses in my bag of “pre-washed” spinach.

    I’ve gotten much better at it, but still, a moth flying around in my room turns me into a cringing flinching mess.

  19. I thought I was the only person to have ever found a moth in a bag of spinach — what is up with that?!!?!

  20. I found a pill in a cereal box once – after I had poured the cereal and put it in my mouth. Freakiest thing ever. Thankfully, it turned out to be a vitamin of my father’s that he somehow dropped in the box while getting breakfast.

  21. I’ll finish reading later, but I just wanted to say: “Oh my god, why does it seem like every time some Mrm dude compares the mrm to feminism it’s like some villain telling the hero ‘you know, we are a lot alike, you and I’.”

    If the Villain knew what made the hero different, the Villain would be the hero.

    Like imagine Harry Potter if Voldemort knew the power of friendship.

  22. The moth wasn’t even the weirdest although it was the freakiest. Strangest was a chunk of wooden dowel in an “Oh, Henry” bar. Pine I think. A little under a centimetre long and about the diameter of a chopstick.

  23. Like imagine Harry Potter if Voldemort knew the power of friendship.

    *starts singing* My Little Voldy, My Little Voldy…

  24. *starts singing* My Little Voldy, My Little Voldy…

    Nope nope nope

  25. I am annoyed with you because you seem intelligent enough and are a journalist with platforms the rest of us don’t have that you could actually make reasonable criticisms of his site and others instead of going for the low hanging fruit and cheap shots.

    Dude. Schticky. He made a blog just for you in 30 seconds. If you are complaining about him having a platform somehow unavailable to you, you are just about the laziest human being I’ve ever seen.

    Also, lols for the false equivalence between SRS and r/mr. I’m gonna go out on a limb here and guess that Schticky’s criticisms of SRS, when they aren’t exactly as vague and off-point as his criticism of David, are going to be “freeze peaches” and “they make fun of straight white cis mens which is just as bad as misogyny”.

  26. diogenes the cynic

    Just so you know, “savage” is a technical term. Its just rarely used that way these days. Hadrian built a wall across Britain because Rome didn’t want to bother civilizing the Scots.

  27. “Savage” isn’t a technical term because racism isn’t a craft.

  28. Diogenes: Anything of merit to add, or is it just the usual?

  29. Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III

    Just so you know, “savage” is a technical term. Its just rarely used that way these days. Hadrian built a wall across Britain because Rome didn’t want to bother civilizing the Scots.

    So many things wrong with this. Hardly know where to begin. How about the Antonine Wall? Rome did want to ‘civilize’ (read conquer) Caledonia. They set up a defensible border but they wanted to keep pushing that border forward. They just kinda, y’know, failed.

    How about how the word ‘savage’ was used for hundreds of years before becoming a technical term amongst racist 19th century historians?

    How about how the Caledonians of the Roman era wouldn’t have counted as ‘savages’ amongst 19th century theorists because they had domesticated livestock, thereby counting them as ‘barbarians’ rather than ‘savages’?

    How about you just accept that you don’t know much, and work on fixing that?

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