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US Army Brig. General charged with rape. Who’s to blame? According to The Spearhead, it’s women.

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A Brigadier General in the US Army has been charged with rape. Well, actually, Brig. General Jeffrey Sinclair has been charged with a veritable laundry list of offenses, as set forth in an Army press  release, among them

forcible sodomy, wrongful sexual conduct, attempted violation of an order, violations of regulations by wrongfully engaging in inappropriate relationships and misusing a government travel charge card, violating general orders by possessing alcohol and pornography while deployed, maltreatment of subordinates, filing fraudulent claims, engaging in conduct unbecoming an officer and a gentleman and engaging in conduct prejudicial to good order and discipline, or of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces.

While details are still sketchy, the charges apparently involve misconduct with several female subordinates.

Over on The Spearhead, W.F. Price bravely takes on the real villain here: women. Apparently their mere presence in the Armed Forces is enough to provoke male soldiers and generals alike to rape them and, while they’re at it, to buy booze and porn, mistreat their subordinates and rack up unauthorized purchases on government issued charge cards.  In a post with the title “How’s that Women in the Military Thing Going Now?” Price gets right to the heart of the matter:

I suspect that the more combat-oriented environment an environment is in the military, the more likely these problems with women are to come about. For one thing, fighting men are more passionate by nature, and then there’s the fact that these men also turn women on more.

Yes, because when male soldiers rape female soldiers, the problem lies with woman in uniform getting “turned on” by men in uniform.

A forward base in hostile territory is not likely to have the same atmosphere as an assignment stateside. The sense of danger actually tends to make people more sexually charged, or so I’ve heard from those who survived battles and sieges on the Eastern Front in WWII, where female-operated AA batteries behind the front lines became de-facto brothels.

Of course, male soldiers are also known to rape civilian women, so by Price’s logic women should neither serve in the military, nor not serve in the military. In times of war, they should just do all us dudes a favor and cease to exist at all.

If not, well, women just need to face up to the danger of “hanky panky” that their mere existence creates:

[O]ur personnel are serving in a remote Muslim country with no access to local females to speak of, and things are bound to happen. As to whether Sinclair “forced” anything on anybody, we don’t know at this point, and it seems unlikely, but it isn’t surprising at all that some forbidden hanky-panky may have occurred.

At this point, virtually all we know about the alleged crimes here is contained in that laundry list of charges I posted above. Yet someone Price is able to deduce that Sinclair is likely to be innocent here. Evidently Price is convinced that anyone who is a “real combat general” and who has “earned a number of awards related to combat arms and parachuting” is someone who is to be implicitly trusted.

In the comments, the Spearhead regulars offer their own unique takes on the issues of women in the military.

Keyster seems to dream of a day when women can not only be kicked out of the military but also out of pretty much everything else as well, except presumably the kitchen:

It’s not safe to work or serve with women.

The potential for trouble is way too high.

Once they invaded the workplace the last vestige of male only space was the military. Now even this is no longer true. I don’t know where men can go and work with other men without female interference anymore. Even if you own your own business, the government forces you to hire them…and invest in all manner of special female accommodations, like breast pumping stations and tampon dispensors.

Ironically the safest “male only” space is a Gay Bar. And even then curious women wander in to meddle and cause disruption.

Numnut drops some biotruths on us all:

Appears women are very horny once a month and will have sex with the most aggressive male available to them at that time.This re-enforces the “thinking with the vagina” theme that a women herself espoused.

Now that the lawz have given wymyn free pass to act out their base animals nature,no man is safe from the Whiplash regret post-sex.(ref to OT)

No doubt these milfem cursors were ovulating and thinking with the gash when they asked to be screwed.

The proper thing for the law to do is recognize this animal instinct and either regulate wymyns behaviors of legalize male sexuality again.

Women want it both ways,a rough man for sex,and prison for rough men.

Jean Valjean hopes that this case will help to expose women for being the filthy sluts they really are:

The question on my mind is will this man fight the charges and reveal the sexual nature of many women in the military or will he go meekly to his fate?

A commenter with the highly ironic name Reality offers up this bit of secondhand shitthatneverhappened.txt.

There was a guy who had been in the military who told me that in actual warfare when the bombs start dropping & the gunfire starts coming at them in an actual combat situation, women just throw down their guns and start running screaming like they would do any other situation.

We’re doomed. All so we can pretend ‘women are just the same as women’ [sic] – that’s more important to all these idiots that run this country & half the idiot population than the security of the country. It’s that way in any situation in life- this political correctness & diversity shit is becomes more important than success, life or death- you name it. In that sense it’s like drugs or alcohol addiction – you throw away your whole life for this one stupid, trivial thing.

Equality: Stupid and Trivial.

I learn new things every time I read The Spearhead.

For some actual facts on the epidemic of rape in the military see:

Leon Panetta: Military’s handling of rape is an “outrage.”

Naomi Wolf: A culture of coverup: rape in the ranks of the US military

Victims say military condones rape

Rape in the Military: America’s Dirty Little Secret

New military rape lawsuit filed

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Posted on September 29, 2012, in antifeminism, evil women, men who should not ever be with women ever, MGTOW, misogyny, MRA, rape, reactionary bullshit, the spearhead, victrim blaming and tagged , , , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 690 Comments.

  1. Because Israel is even more of a PC shit hole than the US is.

    Whoa, fuck. Now Israel is PC, of all places. Try telling that to the Palestinians who are constantly having their lands encroached upon and their communities starved of goods, services, and utilities.

    Haven’t you ever seen those pictures of Israeli girls in uniform walking around with guns looking totally clueless? It’s a huge part of the faux egiltarianism the country tries to project.

    How does one look clueless? Is there something in the eyes? How much do you know about their knowledge of their weapons or hand-to-hand combat based on a still photo?

    Lemme guess: it’s because they’re pretty.

    There is a reason that Israel posts their female troops on the border with Egypt: because until last week there was never any fighting there.

    Yeah, a totally peaceful border, except for the Six-Day War and the Yom Kippur War. I’m sure Israel figured nothing would ever come up between Israel and Egypt ever again. Yep.

    If you are too weak to defend yourself, then yes. If women are equal to men why can’t they defend themselves from getting raped?

    Wow, it’s very fascinating how this works. Sexism, rape culture, and toxic masculinity encourage male aggression and sexual violence, whilst women are trained to be socially conceding by punishing them when they are too assertive of their boundaries. Then, when they are surprise-attacked—pretty much by definition—and raped by their fellow soldiers in the military, it’s evidence that they aren’t as good at being soldiers because they didn’t turn into fucking super-heroes who can instantly smash anyone bent on attacking them in any situation. Ergo women are weaker and are not fit to do the same things men do.

    BUT HEY, PATRIARCHY IS LIKE JUST A CRAZY FEMINIST CONSPIRACY CUZ LIKE STUFF

  2. If someone decides to rape a man

    That “someone” would almost certainly be a man. A typical woman would be physically incapable of overpowering and raping a typical man.

    Yes there are exceptions. There are men who are sick, or disabled or extremely frail and their are women who have exceptional size and strength. But I’m pretty sure if you took the smallest, weakest guy in my graduating high school class he would have been able to overpower and rape at least 50% of the 200 or so girls in the class. Take somebody like me who is still well below average in terms of size and strength and I could probably rape every one of them if I wanted to.

    Former olympic sprinter Jackie Joyner Kersey, who was not just a world class athlete but was juiced to the gills, could only bench press 155lbs. That is how weak women are, an ELITE female athlete could only bench what a typical 9th grade football player does.

    Women are comically weak compared to men.

  3. You are comically stupid compared to some posters here, but we’re still humoring you.

    You know rape isn’t just a man physically overpowering a woman, right? This may be new information for you, but there are multiple complex factors that go into an assault. They’re calculated. Maliciously. On purpose.

  4. Well, if nothing else it’s nice to see that Otis is able to distill the basic misogynist ethos into such a simple and direct form.

    “If men do something bad to women, that means that women are worthless.”

    He’s certainly a perfect illustration of a particular mindset.

  5. Here’s a scenario for you that involves neither frailty on the man’s part, nor strength on the woman’s part: woman and man have consensual sex, man gets tired and tries to pull way, but woman wraps her legs around him to keep him from doing so. Sure, you could argue that he could just use his hands to get her legs off him, but it wouldn’t change the fact that he would be raped for however long it would take him to get her off him.

  6. N00b question: how do I get blockquotes to work here?

  7. I probably should have posted a trigger warning on that. My apologies.

  8. You take me for some kind of backwoods rube? No, sorry I didn’t sign up to get shot at by 3rd worlder’s and ocean away.

    Ahahahaha, omg, some guy who looks down on the entire military as backwoods rubes has the temerity to decide that actual soldiers he sees pictures of look clueless.

    You really can’t make this bullshit up. I wish Pecunium were here to tell you about all the highly-competent women soldiers he’s known, but then again you would probably just dismiss him as a PC mangina or something because you’re JUST SO HOOKED INTO REALITY.

  9. Freitag235:

    For the record, NAMALT.

    Freitag235 – Thank you. Thank you so much. It’s something that I know already, yes, but it’s so good to hear again, from someone who gets it.

  10. @Darkwater

    HTML brackets and the word “blockquote.”

  11. You just type blockquote before the quote, /blockquote after, and surround both of those with the greater and less than signs.

    without the spaces.

  12. Otis, I really don’t want to explore ways a physically weaker person could rape a physically stronger person, because ick. But I can’t believe you can’t figure out:
    * weapons
    * drugs
    * age disparity
    * power (boss v. subordinate; prison guard v. inmate)

    All of those are used by men against women and vice versa.

  13. Alex, I think you have to consider whether the woman in your scenario is holding a knife and wearing a ski mask. As we all know, no ski mask = no rape. THERE ARE NO OTHER POSSIBILITIES.

  14. Manboobz uses brackets. So open with “blockquote” between , and close with “/blockquote” between .

    You can screw it up a few times before you get the hang of it; we all have :)

  15. Gah, I figured putting spaces would disrupt the coding, but nope.

  16. @Otis

    Three questions:

    1. Sprinters are meant to be able to bench-press heavy weights because…? Running doesn’t really involve lifting heavy things with one’s arms.

    2. How the fuck is the bench-press of a woman athlete relevant anyway?

    3. Could you just fuck off with your bullshit and think about what you’re saying already?

  17. Here’s a scenario for you that involves neither frailty on the man’s part, nor strength on the woman’s part: woman and man have consensual sex, man gets tired and tries to pull way, but woman wraps her legs around him to keep him from doing so. Sure, you could argue that he could just use his hands to get her legs off him, but it wouldn’t change the fact that he would be raped for however long it would take him to get her off him.

    In the liberal lala bubble you live in that might be considered rape, but no normal person would regard it as such.

    If black people are equal to white people, why can’t they magically erase racism?

    Might work on somebody who accepts the liberal fallacy that blacks are as intelligent as whites. I’m not one of those.

  18. @Otis the willingly stupid, could you please enlighten us with your definition of “intelligent”. Be as precise as possible.

  19. Might work on somebody who accepts the liberal fallacy that blacks are as intelligent as whites. I’m not one of those.

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

    Disengage.

    Dear Manboobz: What is your dream pokémon team?

  20. And the gloves are off! Otis, you’re a peach of a guy.

  21. So tanning makes you stupider?
    XD

  22. Nepenthe, you’re right. Also, she has to be ugly because no man would get tired of fucking a woman he’s attracted to! Oh, and then she steals his sperm and makes him pay for child support, can’t forget that.

  23. Could OTS be a troll? I’m now wondering how this can possibly *not* be a troll.

  24. Might not be a troll. I know people that terrible in real life :-(

  25. Actually my money is on returning troll.

  26. There are men who are sick, or disabled or extremely frail and their are women who have exceptional size and strength. But I’m pretty sure if you took the smallest, weakest guy in my graduating high school class he would have been able to overpower and rape at least 50% of the 200 or so girls in the class. Take somebody like me who is still well below average in terms of size and strength and I could probably rape every one of them if I wanted to.

    Do we have a troll bingo here? Because “publicly indulges in talk about how he could rape people” is pretty much a constant.

    Former olympic sprinter Jackie Joyner Kersey, who was not just a world class athlete but was juiced to the gills, could only bench press 155lbs.

    She was a SPRINTER, you dolt. Checking wikipedia for Olympic weightlifting records, I find that the heaviest weightlifting record for women is 187 kilograms to Kersey’s 70 kilograms.

    We are going to need a whole new Book O’ Larnin’ for Otis quite soon if he keeps spitting out his half-assed, quater-baked ideas at this rate.

  27. @Alex.. but only because MRAs helped stop the abortion, because, you know, his fetus too.. oh, wait, what…

    @whataboutthemoonz :(

  28. “In the liberal lala bubble you live in that might be considered rape, but no normal person would regard it as such.”

    Except places where that does actually count legally as rape.

    “Might work on somebody who accepts the liberal fallacy that blacks are as intelligent as whites. I’m not one of those.”

    Are you Pell?

  29. Well, even though I was ninja’d, I’m glad I asked the question that exposed OTS as a racist.

  30. Otis, as someone who knows, overpowering someone who is assaulting you is actually very hard. You freeze, you get a fear response. You look at someone who you know and theyre doing something horrible to you. You tell them no and they don’t listen and that terrifies you. And you might try to fight them but theyre in a ore powerful position than you and in the back if your head you think you cant punch too hard, because this is someone you like and surely this must be some kind of mistake…

  31. In the liberal lala bubble you live in [someone being forced to have sex against their will] might be considered rape, but no normal person would regard it as such.

    Otis the Sweaty, ladies and gentlemen!

    @Kiwigirl

    Voting against troll. The anti-”liberal” and anti-”PC” crap is textbook pseudo-Breivek modern racist rhetoric If he’s a troll, he’s a troll with beliefs indistinguishable from a genuine awful person, so “troll” is a bit of a meaningless category here.

  32. WeeBoy, I’m so sorry that happened to you. :(

  33. Oh, congrats, Otis. On topic of being comically authoritative on any number of topics about which you are comically clueless, you’re a fucking cretinous racist as well. Aren’t you just the sweetest little thing.

  34. has the temerity to decide that actual soldiers he sees pictures of look clueless.

    Given that the IDF with unlimited supplies of American hardware was smashed to pieces by a few hundred part time guerrillas in Lebanon just 6 years back, even the men barely qualify for the title of “soldier”. As for the women, I’m friends with a few ex IDF drones and they told me that the female troops are referred to as “mattresses” by the men. They are glorified prostitutes who the IDF hangs a machine gun off because it is good PR. That’s it.

    1. Sprinters are meant to be able to bench-press heavy weights because…? Running doesn’t really involve lifting heavy things with one’s arms.

    She was an elite Olympic athlete who was on steroids, and sprinters do train their upper body. She also had arms that are the size of my head and she still could only bench a ridiculously low amount. This is an elite woman on juice and even so she was still weaker in the upper body than the typical out of shape, American male couch potato.

  35. WeeBoy… I don’t have words. I wish sorry was enough.

  36. Sarah Robles. ‘Nuff said.

  37. This is an elite woman on juice and even so she was still weaker in the upper body than the typical out of shape, American male couch potato.

    I’m going to need a citation for the average bench press numbers of an out of shape American couch potato.

  38. WeeBoy, oh hell, I’m so sorry. All the internet hugs if you want ‘em.

    [cloudiah ignores the racist who is continuing to poop in this thread.]

  39. Cloudiah, if it makes you feel any better, I didn’t ninja you because the troll-toy was too stupid to understand what I was saying. Gotta be more blunt and concrete with these ones, I guess.

    I wonder what his explanation is for why lynchings essentially stopped, if black people are inferior to white people.

    And does gay bashing mean that gay people are inferior to straight ones?

    Do wedgies mean that nerds are inferior to jocks?

    Inquiring minds want to watch the train wreck know!

  40. Something PC Police, something something liberals something.

  41. Well, I screwed that up.

    I wonder what his explanation is for why lynchings essentially stopped, if black people are inferior to white people.

    Something PC Police, something something liberals something.

  42. @whataboutthemoonz

    I’m not American, but I am largely inactive and small physically (36″ chest and 30-32″ waist) but flabby, the classic nerd physique. 70 kg is about 6 kilos less than what I weigh and there’s no way I could lift that.

  43. WeeBoy, I’m sorry that happend to you :(

  44. Otis, as someone who knows, overpowering someone who is assaulting you is actually very hard. You freeze, you get a fear response. You look at someone who you know and theyre doing something horrible to you. You tell them no and they don’t listen and that terrifies you. And you might try to fight them but theyre in a ore powerful position than you and in the back if your head you think you cant punch too hard, because this is someone you like and surely this must be some kind of mistake…

    I’m sorry about what happened to you.

    My point was that women generally can’t outmuscle men and tragic as your case is, it is not an example of such.

    My point was not that men can not be victims of female violence. I’m just pointing out that women constantly have to be on guard for male violence whereas men do not have to fear the same from women. If a girl is walking home late at night and sees a bunch of drunken frat boys walking towards her, she’ll get scared. If a guy is walking home and see’s a bunch of drunken sorority sluts, he won’t even give them a second thought cause even 4 or 5 of them together couldn’t hurt him.

  45. Given that the IDF with unlimited supplies of American hardware was smashed to pieces by a few hundred part time guerrillas in Lebanon just 6 years back, even the men barely qualify for the title of “soldier”.

    Funny, wikpedia says that the IDF suffered 121 casualties to Hezbollah’s 200-1,000 estimated casualties in the 2006 war. “Smashed to pieces”? You certainly have an idiosyncratic interpretation of…well, just about everything, actually.

    And yet, you’re so painfully clueless and unoriginal. It’s downright paradoxical.

    As for the women, I’m friends with a few ex IDF drones and they told me that the female troops are referred to as “mattresses” by the men.

    Sexist statements by men about women: objective evaluations of women’s roles and utility in the military.

    She was an elite Olympic athlete who was on steroids, and sprinters do train their upper body.

    Sprinters train to run, not lift as much weight as possible. Muscles are not that general-purpose. Not that I expect you to know much about anything at this point.

  46. My point was not that men can not be victims of female violence. I’m just pointing out that women constantly have to be on guard for male violence whereas men do not have to fear the same from women. If a girl is walking home late at night and sees a bunch of drunken frat boys walking towards her, she’ll get scared. If a guy is walking home and see’s a bunch of drunken sorority [sisters], he won’t even give them a second thought cause even 4 or 5 of them together couldn’t hurt him.

    And in our liberal lala land here, that’s what we call rape culture!

  47. This is an elite woman on juice and even so she was still weaker in the upper body than the typical out of shape, American male couch potato.

    LOL

    Talk about delusions of grandeur. I think we know what Otis’s body-type is now.

    Whatever helps you sleep at night, sweetums.

  48. Otis is a racist troll who used to stalk Pandagon. Amanda banned him several times, but he always came back with a new handle. He’s an out and proud racist, in case that wasn’t obvious.

  49. My favorite Otis-ism so far is the idea that if male Israeli soldiers refer to their female colleagues in sexist, demeaning terms that proves that Israel is totally PC.

  50. Otis, is there anyone you don’t know? You seem to have friends across the civilian social strata, and acquaintances in two armies, all of whom constantly feed you top-notch information.

    You also have an appalling opinion of them all. IDF “drones,” “backwoods rubes,” “comically weak” women. Wish I had a friend like you!

  51. Thanks MordsithJ! I was going to wait up, but you’ve provided me with the answer. Good $timeofday everyone.

  52. Thanks everyone. I’m okay now, it doesn’t mean I’m broken, but I pretty much only talk about it when I am anonymous-ish online. Partly because of assholes like Otis.

    @whataboutthemoonz
    I’m in a training academy for young rugby referees. We train/play 15 hours a week. Of the eight of us, only two can bench press 70kgs. I certainly cant, but thats about 10kgs more than I weigh.

  53. You can screw it up a few times before you get the hang of it; we all have

    Thanks! Hopefully this will work.

  54. @WeeBoy that’s why I hate the term “victim”. Survivor also sounds a bit negative. I know, you’re a strong! :) Best wishes on the training, will you be doing coaching as well as ref’ing?

  55. If a guy is walking home and see’s a bunch of drunken sorority sluts, he won’t even give them a second thought cause even 4 or 5 of them together couldn’t hurt him.

    Depends – are they armed? Is he drunk?

    Most rapes aren’t being randomly assaulted on the street. They’re people you know, people you usually like and who often have power of some kind or another over you. Not physical power, but they’re in charge of either you or something which could damage you.

  56. Great, captainbathrobe, we’ve attracted one of those traveling racist trolls. A Pandagon reject no less! Anyone know any magic spells to ward him off?

    I suppose we could click on the magic David Head to banish him, but maybe people are enjoying batting him around?

  57. Otis, is there anyone you don’t know? You seem to have friends across the civilian social strata, and acquaintances in two armies, all of whom constantly feed you top-notch information.

    I do know many people. I have family in France and Australia and in laws from Zimbabwe (although he got out when it was still known as Rhodesia) and Iran. I am friends with Haggai Amir, who is famous for having helped to assassinate former Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin.

    Through my maternal cousins I actually have hispanic and black blood relatives, although I refuse to meet them.

    You also have an appalling opinion of them all. IDF “drones,” “backwoods rubes,

    First of all, I never said I was friends with any US soldiers. I said I knew/had talked to them.

    Second of all, I would never be friends with somebody who was in the IDF. Everybody I know who was in it has left and refuses to do reserve duty.

  58. Otis just for you information mens are less likely to feel threatened by women not only for biological reasons but also for cultural reasons. Rape culture exists

  59. @Fitzy his opinions are interesting in their negativity. I would be surprised if he could even get accepted into any branch/corps, because I would expect him to fail the psych testing, assuming he got past the physical. Which means that all those ‘IDF “drones,” “backwoods rubes,” “comically weak” women’ are all measurably better than him. :)

  60. @ cloudiah,

    I would cast a level 9 Ignore spell. That was the only thing that seemed to work, as I recall.

  61. Otis – good for you! I hope your high standards continue to serve you well in life.

  62. @kiwigirl Yeah, I’m not fond of ‘survivor’ either (for me personally, anyone else who wants to should) I prefer ‘person who a bad thing happened to’.

    I’m not going to be talking up coaching, I can only handle rugby players for 80 minutes at a time.

  63. Oooh, I like — let’s try just ignoring the racist. He’ll hate that.

  64. I mean, “I have black and hispanic relatives, but I refuse to meet them”? Talk about troll bait. Though if said relatives actually exist, then he’s obviously doing them a favor by staying away.

  65. @WeeBoy this is where I admit that I can’t stand rugby. Sometimes the media hype around it makes me feel like I should hand in my citizenship for being so disinterested in the national sport. I do like the rugby 7s though, just because of the costumes. On the other hand, cricket…

  66. TL;DR; antisemitism.

    If Jews are not biologically inferior to Aryans, why did they let the Holocaust happen?
    Apply the same logic to other instances of oppression and it sounds especially heinous. Then why it is used to justify the oppression of women?

    Meanwhile a few threads below we have a dude arguing that the MRM isn’t hateful and racist because they have black people there.

  67. Dear Manboobz: What is your dream pokémon team?

    Honestly, my dream team is just all Charizards.

    Water-types? Please. I will eat steamed Blastoise for dinner.

  68. I would cast a level 9 Ignore spell. That was the only thing that seemed to work, as I recall.

    You must have a very short memory. Nobody was able to ignore me and Amanda had to remind people like 10 billion times to stop responding to me, despite the fact that she herself couldn’t help responding to me on occasion.

    Anyway, Manboobz/David whatever his name is asks me to stop posting and I’m gone. No need to even bother with the banning. I have a special revulsion for Amanda which required me to troll her blog endlessly. I’m sorry but this place just doesn’t give me that same feeling. It’s nothing personal.

  69. I’m going to spam the thread with cute animal pictures now. If that is wrong, I don’t wanna be right.
    Corgi!

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