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Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c): It’s “a disaster to say ‘never hit women’…..it destroys the womans ability to bond closely with the man via a good spanking.” [UPDATED WITH NOLAN RESPONSE]

Some misogynists seem to have a really difficult time telling the difference between consensual kinkiness and domestic violence. Over on the Happier Abroad forums, our old friend Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c) – who doesn’t really seem to be all that happy, honestly – tells the fellows about a woman he recently met. (Note: the faux ellipses in the quotes to follow are all from the original.)

I am now able to look a woman in the eyes, even from some distance, and know if she is a decent woman or not. I only developed this two years or so ago and have only had it happen 4 times. I am not saying that it is ONLY these women who are decent women….I am saying that the 4 this has happened to turned out to be pretty good women…

By a “pretty good woman” he seems to mean a woman who hates women nearly as much as he does:

when asking about my view of women I have been absolutely straightforward and to the point….her response “AT LAST…..a man who really knows what we are like….that makes me feel so much better because I do not have to worry about trying to present myself as I am not…..you already really know what we are like!”

She is HAPPY that I describe women as mostly liars and manipulators who try to get men to do what they want…..it is a RELIEF for her to meet such a man…..how about that?

And, even better, she likes to be spanked!

she openly says that she felt that if we were together with her strong personality she would be likely to provoke me and try to hurt me emotionally…..to which I replied “if you are naughty I will put you over my knee and spank you”..to which she replied “and I shall be naughty to make sure I am spanked”.

I was telling this new lady I met about this and how I had spanked my daughter when she was willful and naughty as well as my fav#1……she almost SWOONED at the idea of being spanked for being naughty….It was as clear as day she was very interested in getting herself spanked for being naughty…..I noticed this and pointed it out….she tried to deny it.

Uh, if she just told you she wanted to “be naughty to make sure” she’d be spanked, why would she deny this a minute later?

Somehow I suspect that this conversation didn’t transpire exactly as Mr. Nolan says it did.

In any case, our intrepid storyteller moves on to elaborate on his perverse (and not in a good way) sexualized defense of child abuse:

I said to her “it is completely normal for a girl to want to provoke her father into needing to spank her, once he does she knows he is big and strong and will protect her and provide for her….she feel more comfortable, more secure, and she will often cuddle up to her father and feel very good towards him after being spanked….my daughter did that all the time…..I bet you did that with your father too…..

And then on to a defense of violence against women:

This need does not go away just because the girl becomes a woman…..she still needs to provoke her man and he still needs to spank her so that she feels he is strong and powerful and can protect and provide for her……that is how women are.

Apparently men can’t truly “bond” with women without hitting them:

This is why it is such a disaster to say “never hit women”…..it destroys the womans ability to bond closely with the man via a good spanking. It destroys her ability to feel the security of protector and provider….something she needs…indeed….it is so insane now they call that “domestic violence” and the man can go to jail for doing what the woman needs to be done for her.”

She just shook her head and said “you are so right”……I am wondering if we will see much more of each other.

I certainly hope not.

Happily, there’s every reason to believe that this conversation is a product of Nolan’s imagination; he seems to live in a world all his own.

NOTE: Thanks to Sandra in the comments for pointing me to this horrible comment.

EDITED TO ADD: Mr. Nolan (c) has responded in the comments here, and over on Happier Abroad in more detail. Apparently I totally misrepresented him because I wasn’t able to figure out from his badly written comment that he was talking about two different women who loved being spanked. Also, because I mentioned his name with the weird punctuation , he thinks I am “subject to the fee of 1,000 troy ounces of 99.9% pure gold should I choose to levy it.” (You see, Mr. Nolan (c) has set up his own international court system in his own head, in which mentioning his name with that little copyright symbol attached to it apparently means that you owe him lots of gold.)  I haven’t read all of his comments; I’m afraid I’ll end up owing him even more gold if I do.

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Posted on August 31, 2012, in antifeminism, antifeminst women, crackpottery, men who should not ever be with women ever, MRA, reactionary bullshit, sex, violence, western women suck and tagged , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 344 Comments.

  1. @Rahu, many good people are Doctor Who fans. And ManBoobz has many good people. Many, many good people.

  2. Whoops, time to update the Book o’ Larnin’ again.

  3. Thanks, Freitag!!!

    Great pic, btw!!! :-)

  4. Huh, that’s odd. I was able to figure out that my Dad was big and strong because he would pick me up and throw me in the air, then catch me, and because I watched him carrying heavy stuff around (because he didn’t want my Mum to have to do it).

    One can also generally figure this out with cuddles of the variety that don’t sound like they come from Penthouse Forum. Eeeewwwww…

    Well, I guess now we know why he never gets to see his kids.

    Also, I love how Owly thinks that a dictator being overthrown is a terrible awful thing and a sign of impending doom.

  5. And as is the way of things here at the intellectually dishonest cesspool known as Boobzland, a nonchalant post is made about Peter Andrew Nolan as if he were any sort of accepted MRA, as opposed to a disturbed individual who has unfortunately attached himself to the Movement. So much for journalistic integrity.

  6. thebionicmommy

    And as is the way of things here at the intellectually dishonest cesspool known as Boobzland, a nonchalant post is made about Peter Andrew Nolan as if he were any sort of accepted MRA, as opposed to a disturbed individual who has unfortunately attached himself to the Movement. So much for journalistic integrity.

    Of course, no true MRA would ever say the things than Peter Andrew Nolan says. I don’t blame you for trying to distance yourself from him, but like it or not, he’s an MRA.

  7. This is both/and, not either/or. Nolan is both an MRA AND a seriously disturbed individual.

    Your Movement* seems to have quite a few of those.

    (*I still want to know why “movement” is capitalized in Steele-land.)

  8. Excuse me? I do not know of this Peter Andrew Nolan that you speak of, the original post clearly came from one Peter-Andrew: Nolan(c). Have you no respect, you vile Steelepole?

  9. I capitalize Movement because, as others have noted, it is the social justice movement of the millennium. Thus, the Movement.

    Regardless, the MRM doesn’t hand out credentials. Nolan can call himself an MRA if he wants; however, to build a post around him as if he were a mainstream fixture in the Movement is the height of disingenuity. But then I wouldn’t expect anything more from the vile, disgusting community that has made a hobby out of laughing at men’s issues and denying misandry.

  10. Really, isn’t being a disturbed individual kind of a given for anyone in a hate movement?

    It’s kind of like saying that a person who doesn’t eat meat has unfortunately attached himself to the vegetarian movement.

  11. it is the social justice movement of the millennium

    Really? Wow, I had no idea we’ve already fixed racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, and the host of other issues going on. Guys, try to get the memos out more timely will ya!

  12. it is the social justice movement of the millennium

    I strongly feel that Android rights is going to take that title.

  13. Excuse me?

    as opposed to a disturbed individual who has unfortunately attached himself to the Movement.

    Oh, like Tom Martin was? The guy who is you’re trying to get as your new bff?

  14. Bravely addressing the vile fact that men aren’t allowed to beat their wives any more! Truly the social justice movement of the millennium.

    (Even if it was, there’s still no need to capitalize it.)

  15. Really, isn’t being a disturbed individual kind of a given for anyone in a hate movement?

    Morally bankrupt slander, that’s all you’re good for. You’d do anything to suffocate a burgeoning human rights movement with bags of sand. That’s what this whole apparatus is all about, when you get right down to it – it’s in the service of evil.

  16. Slander = bags of sand? Which are often used during events like floods for entirely non-evil purposes?

  17. Bravely addressing the vile fact that men aren’t allowed to beat their wives any more!

    More slander from intelletcually and morally bankrupt feminists; as I’ve said, Nolan is no mainstream MRA.

  18. Haha is bags of sand the new jesters fool? Or maybe “services of evil” is the new vile.

  19. You’d do anything to suffocate a burgeoning human rights movement with bags of sand.

    You’d spend twenty minutes a day making fun of hateful abuser lobbyists with words

    FTFY

    Here, I’ll do it again: you are basing your life on a movement whose primary goal is glorifying rapists and child abusers, and you think this makes you smart.

    See? Words, not sand.

  20. Steele, are you just fucking with us, or are you really that delusional? At this rate you’re going to end up No True Scotsmanning your entire “Movement” out of existence, save yourself.

  21. Oh wait I was wrong “slander” and “morally bankrupt” seem to be the new catchphrases. Oops.

  22. More slander from intelletcually and morally bankrupt feminists; as I’ve said, Nolan is no mainstream MRA.

    Paul Elam’s primary political position is that rape should be de facto legal. Is he also not a mainstream MRA?

  23. And for fuck’s sake, “…in the service of evil.”? You pompous twit.

  24. I actually can’t decide whether Steele is just a poe fucking with us. If it was any other policial position we were mocking, I would say he’s so over the top he must be fake. But the whole MRM is just so ridiculous that no amount of pompous idiocy is totally beyond the pale.

  25. Slander = bags of sand? Which are often used during events like floods for entirely non-evil purposes?

    The MRM is small right now – burgeoning, as I’ve said, on blogs and websites like A Voice for Men and Reddit Men’s Rights. The feminist apparatus, on the other hand, is enormous, culturally accepted and practically universal in its permeation throughout society. It’s safe – politically correct, you might say. It takes no bravery to identify as a feminist – you’re the mainstream, the safe ones. No one will give you grief for being a feminist. But the MRM is different. We’re the ones on the edge, the ones pushing society to be something different – something better. And as is always true with trailblazers, they’re smaller. They’re more vulnerable.

    Boobzland is the avatar of the mainstream – that is, the feminist apparatus – attempting to silence – to suffocate – a smaller human rights movement under dishonest reportage, laughage at men and men’s issues, and denial of misandry. A bag of sand is a fine metaphor for the situation.

  26. “laughage?”

  27. HAHAHAHA

    Steele, you might want to read up on the GOP platform. Let me know if you think any feminists were involved in drafting that monstrosity.

    And again, you are not a movement. You are a bunch of guys talking about how great it would be if there were no consequences for rape and child abuse. You’re small because most people oppose rape and child abuse.

  28. I capitalize Movement because, as others have noted, it is the social justice movement of the millennium. Thus, the Movement.

    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. The only movement the MRM has anything in common with are bowel movements.

  29. No one will give you grief for being a feminist.

    I wish that was true….

    Boobzland is the avatar of the mainstream

    If this was blog mainstream then people would know about your tiny group. XD

  30. And to be honest, people not liking rape and child abuse not something that will change in the near future. So, I think your chances of being a major social movement are pretty slim.

  31. Steele, is anything PA:N(c)’s saying here any worse than “The Necessity of Domestic Violence”? Or are you kicking Bardamu and GWW (and a healthy chunk of r/mr) out of the Movement now too?

  32. Here, I’ll do it again: you are basing your life on a movement whose primary goal is glorifying rapists and child abusers, and you think this makes you smart.

    You are simply incorrect in your words on the MRM, and I will not continue to engage you while you make your unfounded and slanderous comments. Goodbye.

  33. Burgeoning. Steele, you’ve been using a thesaurus! So proud right now! *wipes tear from eye*

  34. Laughage is actually kind of an awesome word, in a Clockwork Orange self-generated language kind of way.

  35. I forgot to quote Says’ comment in my penultimate comment – for the record.

  36. Ugh, I’m going to make a point to use laughage in like, my next three sentences.

  37. You are simply incorrect in your words on the MRM, and I will not continue to engage you while you make your unfounded and slanderous comments.

    Paul Elam wants there to be no punishment for rape in the United States. The whole MRM believe that it was wrong to take the children away from child abuser Thomas Ball.

    This is the only consistent feature of your movement.

    Goodbye.

    RESULT!

  38. Steele, I thought you were disengaging from this vile place because of the slanderous laughage. BTW, you may want to look up “slanderous,” your usage is wrong, as usual.

  39. under dishonest reportage, laughage at men and men’s issues, and denial of misandry.

    Shouldn’t it be “deniage of misandry?”

  40. Steele it is you who are the jester’s fool.

  41. And there was much laughage throughout the land….

  42. p.s. Steele HAS to be a Poe.

  43. Hey everyone, read steele’s post that begins with “morally banckrupt slander” while hearing Clint Eastwood’s voice in your head — specifically when he did the chair bit at the GOP conference in Tampa. It’s totally hilarious!!!! Thanks for the laugh, dude!

  44. Okay Steele, I’m gonna ask you a question I’ve asked people many times and have never received an answer to: If there really are reasonable MRAs that aren’t rape, child abuse and DV apologists, then WHERE THE FUCK ARE THEY?

  45. I am laughageing so hard right now

  46. @cloudiah

    What makes you sure? I mean, he kinda seems like it, but he is a poe that has spent a lot of time here. I’m just wondering if I missed something.

  47. Shhhhhh, nobody tell him about submissive guys. It’ll break him.

    On second thought….

    Men CAN’T be spanked, for the same reason that they can’t sit on HARD CHAIRS.

  48. But who is the jester’s fool’s buffoon’s joker’s clown?

  49. Steele fought heroically against reportage,
    and also anti-man vile laughage,
    misandry deniage,
    bags of sand for leverage.
    The rest of us thought, “He needs more roughage.”

  50. AbsintheDexterous

    Morally bankrupt slander, that’s all you’re good for. You’d do anything to suffocate a burgeoning human rights movement with bags of sand. That’s what this whole apparatus is all about, when you get right down to it – it’s in the service of evil.

    Forsooth, Mr. Steele! If the cap fits, should one not wear it? There are a great many evils in the world, sir, many which occur outside of electronic boxes and fevered imaginations. The great Movements of our times have long refused to be buried; are you saying that with the mere application of shovel to dirt, the Men’s Rights Movement will lie in a shallow grave, ne’er to be seen again? I hardly find that to be an excellent endorsement to your cause.

  51. @Ugh, I just can’t believe anyone can be that obtuse, in such a hilarious and weird way.

  52. @cloudiah

    Yeah, that’s true.

  53. For those who were communists as students – remember when you’d see propaganda posters from Russia or China that had been poorly translated by someone who wasn’t very good with words in general? That’s what Steele’s rhetorical style reminds me of.

    “Much ownership of the means of production.”

  54. Actually, reading steele’s posts in the voice of Yoda works too.

  55. I feel like doing that would just ruin Yoda for me. I can’t let that happen.

  56. You mean the prequels didn’t already do it?

  57. Reading Steele’s stuff in the voice of Eddie Izzard doing James Mason works for me.

  58. For some reason, I hear steele as Daffy Duck in my head.

  59. I don’t let the prequels bring me down. But associating Yoda with Steelepole? That’s just gross and wrong.

  60. Morally bankrupt slander, that’s all you’re good for.

    A) Slander is spoken, libel is written.
    B) It’s not slander or libel if it’s true.

  61. More slander from intelletcually and morally bankrupt feminists; as I’ve said, Nolan is no mainstream MRA.

    I imagine he isn’t a valid Scotsman either.

  62. Men CAN’T be spanked, for the same reason that they can’t sit on HARD CHAIRS.

    They have particularly tender asses? That doesn’t seem right.

  63. Gah, Dammit, I was too late for the steelesplosion.

  64. I just can’t get past how very, very seriously Steele takes himself. It’s like dealing with a small child who is absolutely convinced that wearing a towel like a cape will turn him or her into Superman. Only not as cute.

  65. In Steele’s case the cape is made of bad grammar.

  66. And most children have a stronger grip on reality.

  67. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    Steele leaves out a word when he talks about the Movement – it should have Bowel in front of it.

    thenatfantastic, that fifty cutest things collection nearly melted my brain! :D

  68. The Kittehs' Unpaid Help

    Oh rats, ninjaed by hellkell! :(

  69. So, I know I’m late for this, but…

    So much for journalistic integrity.

    Steele’s clearly been taking notes from some guy. You do know this is a blog, Steele, right? Like, you can’t just shout “JOURNALISM!” and then we’re obligated to agree with all the stupid shit you say.

    I capitalize Movement because, as others have noted, it is the social justice movement of the millennium.

    Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahhahhahahaahaha

    You’d do anything to suffocate a burgeoning human rights movement with bags of sand.

    This might be the single finest example of how terrible Steele’s writing is. Why would you ever suffocate someone with BAGS OF SAND? How would that even work? Are you putting the bags of sand over their face while they sleep, like you would with a pillow? Are you pouring the sand into their nose and mouth? Why bags of sand, of all things?

    Steele, seriously, I’m trying to help you out here: You could have ended this sentence at “movement.” Your metaphor is already ridiculously overwrought; it doesn’t need to suffer from overexplanation as well.

    P.S. Who else is excited for the next time Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) shows up? I can’t wait for Steele to immediately forget about how he totes excommunicated him in his haste to make friends.

  70. P.S. Who else is excited for the next time Peter-Andrew:Nolan(c) shows up? I can’t wait for Steele to immediately forget about how he totes excommunicated him in his haste to make friends.

    I’m always excited for PA:N(c) to show up. He is (1,000 troy ounces of 99.99%) pure gold. I kind of hope it’s not this post, though. If he shows up here it’s just going to be to defend his generic nasty misogyny. He’s only really fun when he’s being the most absurd conspiracy theorist that ever was.

    Unless he shows up here to demand his name use royalties from David. That would be amazing.

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