Ann Coulter channels Men’s Rightsers in her latest attack on single women
All you single ladies get off my lawn!
While single herself, the always belligerent Ann Coulter seems to have a bit of a grudge against other single women — single mothers in particular. In a recent appearance on Fox and Friends, Coulter complained that the Democrats — and the media — were paying too much attention to what women think, and suggested that Romney could win the election without appealing to women — or at least to single women.
Ronald Reagan managed to win two landslides without winning the women’s vote, but it is as you say, it’s striking, it’s not the women’s vote generically, it is the single women’s vote. And that’s because single women look to the government to be their husbands and give them, you know, prenatal care, and preschool care, and kindergarten care, and school lunches.
Huh. Well, this might answer the central question in that National Review piece we discussed yesterday — why Romney isn’t getting 100% support from women, even though he’s the sort of rich guy alpha that evolutionary psychologists suggest is inherently appealing to “hypergamous” (i.e., golddigging) women. Turns out these women are already married to Obama!
The notion of government as a “substitute husband” is, of course, an old Men’s Rights trope. Warren Farrell devoted roughly a third of his Myth of Male Power — the 1993 tome from which the Men’sRights movement still gets most of its talking points — to explicating this particular theme. And it’s one that MRAs today return to again and again and again and again. (The notion of the “husband state” also, not coincidentally, played a role in the sprawling manifesto of mass killer Anders Breivik.)
As for Coulter, this isn’t the first time she’s singled out the single ladies. In a recent appearance on Sean Hannity’s show on Fox, Coulter went after Obama and the Democrats for focusing on what she called the “stupid single women” vote. “And I would just say to stupid single women voters,” she added,
your husband will not be able to pay you child support. If Obamacare goes through and Obama is re-elected, you are talking about the total destruction of wealth in America. It is the end of America as we know it. …
Great, you will get free contraception; you won’t have to pay a $10 co-pay, but it will be the end of America. Think about that!
Coulter is so miffed that single women don’t like Republicans that she’d be willing to give up her own right to vote if it means these “stupid … women” wouldn’t be allowed to vote either. As she once famously explained,
If we took away women’s right to vote, we’d never have to worry about another Democrat president. It’s kind of a pipe dream, it’s a personal fantasy of mine, but I don’t think it’s going to happen. And it is a good way of making the point that women are voting so stupidly, at least single women. It also makes the point, it is kind of embarrassing, the Democratic Party ought to be hanging its head in shame, that it has so much difficulty getting men to vote for it. I mean, you do see it’s the party of women and ‘We’ll pay for health care and tuition and day care — and here, what else can we give you, soccer moms?’
Here’s a much more appealing take on single women. Well, honestly, it’s as terrifying as it is entertaining:
Posted on August 24, 2012, in $MONEY$, alpha males, antifeminism, antifeminst women, armageddon, misogyny, MRA, oppressed men, reactionary bullshit, woman's suffrage and tagged ann coulter, anti-feminism, antifeminst women, feminism, misogyny, obama, single mothers, sinle women, women’s suffrage. Bookmark the permalink. 547 Comments.
Muttering about her being selfish for using programs so her kids don’t go hungry at lunch has nothing to do with letting your kids starve…..
Dammit, there was supposed to be emphasis on a group that tends to care more about social issues like birth control and abortion than married women do.
False assumption #1: That I agree with Ann Coulter’s political positions.
More dick wagging and refusal to answer anything XD
I may claim to have the most beautiful campus in the world but the city it’s in looks like this:
Actually, that’s only half of the answer. Why do married women vote Republican?
Tmason, if you’re not part of the rich elite, then you are being played by them. They want you to blame anyone else who might get help here and there, because they don’t want you to realize how much harm they are causing. Also, everyone benefits from government services. They just don’t always appreciate it.
Please read this
I… I think it’s trying. And I’m both laughing and crying, although I was just cutting onions….
What is it with your fascination with a dick?
3:13, by my count.
False assumption #1: We are here to rebut Ann Coulter’s “charges,” rather than mock her and her misogyny without mercy.
Fucking blockquotes, how do they work?
No one knows what the hell you’re saying tmason. People have to assume your meaning. Of course some of the assumptions are going be wrong. How about explaining what you’re insinuating? Or are you just here to troll badly?
No, people can ask. Instead, people leaped into assumptions because it was easy to shoot someone down.
Tmason dude, what is your point? To come here ask random questions then assert you can’t answer them when people make assumptions? If thats not your position then fucking say what your position is. This isn’t guess who dude be clear or stfu.
Trollololololol
3:14
Let me read more of the article you li– oh there it is:
Get a point or GTFO.
False assumption #2: I side with the rich.
The rich are only part of the problem and the idea that we can strictly focus on them without looking at what we as individuals do in our lives which cause societal problems is wrong.
Dude I have asked you several times to make your point. Make it now or I am going to keep calling you a dick wagger.
Tmason: I’m married and there’s no way in hell I’d vote Republican. You’re so cute thinking you’re original in any way. Most of our trolls roll in here with similar positions to yours. I don’t use the word argument, because so far you have none.
I’m splitting that one. 3 1/2: 13 1/2.
Oops, that should be 14 1/2.
We can only make assumptions dude because you constantly refuse to answer anything or state your point. Stop complaining about people making assumptions if you refuse to reveal your point or what you think.
Easy and fun. Keep trying to be all aloof and cryptic instead of saying what you bloody well came here to say, and the shooting will continue.
Can I point out also that I’m an unmarried woman only because Republicans keep trying to make it illegal for me to get married? If I could be, I’d be a happily married woman-thing voting for Obama.
This one sploded right out of the gate.
The wasteland ruins of green and pleasant Britain, complete with wifi, access to free-at-point-of-use healthcare, and free prescriptions for chronic illness and disability? BEST. WASTELAND. EVER!
I clearly asked my question; people came with the assumptions such as :
(1) I like rich people
(2) I want kids to starve
(3) I agree with everything Ann Coulter says.
I said nothing of the sort. Now you would like me to defend all of these projections and make my point. Nice.
A part of my position has already been stated upstream; I personally believe that you were too focused on taking me down versus actually responding to what I wrote.
Thank you, katz. Tmason kind of upset me, but seeing other people back me up really restores my faith in humanity. This is one of the many reasons manboobz is so awesome. :-)
We were talking about school lunches. How do you propose elementary students “earn” their food? I like works projects for adults, too, but work should not be required for people to have food. Some people are children, some are disabled, and some are elderly so they are unable to work. Nobody deserves to starve.
3 1/2:15 1/2
A am confused as to how not letting children go to school hungry could be seen as anything other than good for society.
3 1/2:15 1/2 – katz
I looked at this and thought I was back in maths class for a minute. It was scary.
Actually, let’s focus on why you think you get to dictate what everyone else will talk about. Last I checked, you are not our employer, our government, or our mommy. If you want to talk about that, talk, but it’s pathetically arrogant to instruct everyone else on the topics that you, random n00bling troll, wish them to talk about for you.
All high schools should cover content to wankage ratios. They’re very important.
Tmason, could you repeat your question please?
Free school lunches don’t cause societal problems. They solve a societal problem, which is childhood hunger.
@Linds The article is actually very vague. The reason married women focus more on the economy is because they have less of a need for the social services that the Government provides; which in this case was Ann Coulter’s point.
Single women, and especially single mothers do not have the combined income that makes it a lot easier to live a full life so they depend more on the services provided by government. Thus, they ‘ll vote for the party that provides what they need.
The basic premise that Ann Coulter put forth isn’t inaccurate.
Where we differ is whether that is a problem or not and is that a good trend. I don’t believe that single motherhood is good for society simply because we need to have two people (sometimes more) taking care of children. It’s great to provide for the women now but we need to work on ways to reduce single motherhood and not simply enact policies that help people in the short term.
I must have missed it between your one liners stating you can’t respond to people because they assume stuff about your ambiguous point.
But you opened up claiming bionicmommy should not have gotten assistance for getting her kids lunch each day. If you have a point to make then make it, you have only vaguely explained that and refusing to answer anyone who can’t mind read what your fucking point is.
Besides that I also meant what is your point in coming here? Clearly you have some point otherwise you wouldn’t keep engaging in trying to make us guess your super secret point which you refuse to tell us.
Uh, no. It took you a good while to “ask” anything. Here are all your comments until you get to your “question”:
Six comments until you “asked” a question, several of which contained some glimmer of an attempt at argument.
PS the actual argument at hand is whether or not women should be able to vote. Why single women do or do not vote the way they do is irrelevant to whether they should have voting rights, dingus.
I daresay Mann Coulter hates the Hell out of women who can have children. She’s a chromosomal anomaly if I ever saw one.
Wow, I stopped to watch the Parkour and the thread exploded.
We got a live one, I guess. Sorry I’m heading out for D&D in a few minutes (no I’m not).
Obviously, those children are not wealthy, and many of them are non-white. Imagine how much richer and whiter – and thus better, clearly! – society would be if we just let all the relatively poor and/or non-white kids starve to death!
See, it makes perfect sense, provided you’re a racist sociopath.
omg did we sorta get a response out of him
Whoa there. Not okay. Ann Coulter is a terrible person; let’s stick to talking about how she is terrible rather than trying to slam trans and intersex people, who have nothing to do with Ann Coulter’s terribleness.
Fair enough, 4 1/2:15 1/2. He’s edging towards 1:3!
This troll is hilariously stupid. Providing food for children right now – hmm, I don’t see how that could possibly benefit them in the long term.
Can we spare with the gender policing crap? Her looking like a “man” or her chromosomes have nothing to do with her being a shitty person thanks.
So you think it would be good for society if single mothers didn’t get assistance for their kids.
I mean, that’s really the only justifiable reading of your comment that what is good for the individual is not necessarily good for society; if you didn’t mean to imply that single mothers shouldn’t get assistance, then your comment was a ridiculous non sequitur and your defensive huffiness totally unwarranted.
But since you get pissy when people take your words at face value, I’ll ask you directly: Should single mothers receive government assistance or not?
If you believe that they should, then what the fuck are you arguing about?
That’s what you were talking about. If you’d like to discuss; I’d rather we enable the caregivers to provide the lunch for their children versus school lunch. That’s not the way it is now; caregivers are too dependent on the school because of various pressures faced in society.
Isn’t it interesting that we work harder and harder to pay someone else for things that we probably could do better ourselves? In our case no can take care of the children because of their careers, etc.
We have pushed people out of the home only to work ever harder for the services that were traditionally provided in the home.
@Reynardine
I know people with chromosomal anomalies, and many of them can have children quite well. I’d prefer if we stick to arguing that her beliefs are detestable rather than insinuating that there’s something wrong with her gender or gender presentation,
@Tmason
That depends on what you define as a “social service”. Also, the article was pretty clear that polling indicates that married women (statistically, I believe, likely to be older women and therefore already likely to be more conservative) are attracted to Republican “smaller government” talking points.
That doesn’t mean they don’t benefit from social services, it means they don’t recognize or acknowledge that they do so. Married women, after all, benefit from child tax credits, home mortgage credits and other assorted things that aren’t touted regularly as a government service but ARE.
Again with the falsehood. When did I say school lunch shouldn’t be provided?
I mean, it’s clearly good for Tmason that zir computer isn’t being overrun with thousands upon thousands of computer viruses, but what is good for the individual isn’t necessarily good for society.
WHAT WHEN DID I SAY THAT TMASON’S COMPUTER SHOULD BE OVERRUN WITH COMPUTER VIRUSES FOR THE GOOD OF SOCIETY I NEVER SAID THAT STOP LYING
5 1/2: 16 1/2
No that’s your argument. I am responded to the post.
Dense as a neutron star.
Eff, Mann is ugly.
Zie reminds me a little of SunshineMary. “Don’t read into my words that things which clearly are intended to be read into my words!”
Gee, Tmason. You really like to say smart-sounding things that utterly lack content, don’t you?
Are you sure? Maybe you should read it again.
Reynardine, gtfo with your gender policing bullshit.
No, this started when I talked about how even though I have the “perfect nuclear family”, my child still gets free lunch and breakfast at school. Then you told me
which you were implying that by enrolling my child in the lunch program, my actions are bad for society. So stop playing games and changing the subject. Either own what you said or clarify your position.
5 1/2: 17 1/2
Reynardine, I really wish you wouldn’t go off on who is ugly and/or looks like a man, even if you really think so.
No one gives a fuck if she is ugly reynardine, why are you putting her worth based on her looks?
@Reynardine
Who is Mann? I see no one named that in this conversation, even if anyone;s physical appearance were germane to the argument.
Never said they didn’t benefit. Read again; I said they have “less of a need”.
Also, there is a difference between credits and full fledged programs. Again, I am not against these services provided now; I am against there not being a plan in the long term to (1) help get people off these programs and (2) to reduce the societal need for these programs.
Charmed I’m sure, Reynardine. But yeah, keep doubling down on the transmisogyny since you obviously seem to get a real kick out of it.
^^Should I count that as a wank or should I split it?
It’s pretty clear to me that there is never going to be a good choice between political parties in this country, but I prefer crappy and not-as-crappy to crappy and equally-crappy. Someone said something to me recently that I found really interesting, too: people who vote Republican for economic reasons despite the fact that the Republican party has no interest whatsoever in social justice for underprivileged groups (like women and minorities) are basically announcing that they think the economy is more important than human rights.