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Hey, MRAs: If you don’t want people to associate you with hatred, don’t associate yourself with hate groups

MRAs: digging their own hole.

Here’s a bit of advice for Men’s Rights redditors and MRAs in general: if you don’t want people to associate the Men’s Rights movement with hatred, you should probably not associate yourselves with hate groups.

Yesterday, a fellow called heiligenschein posted a link in the Men’s Rights subreddit to a relatively new subreddit called simply SPLC, a subreddit set up by enemies of the Southern Poverty Law Center and devoted to, as heiligenschein put it, “compiling the numerous criticisms of the [SPLC].” As he explained in a comment:

That’s a somewhat odd criticism for heiligenschein, one of the moderators of the SPLC subreddit, to make. If you look at the front page of this subreddit, you’ll discover that he and his pals are already doing a fine job of associating themselves with “neo nazi nutters” all by themselves.

If you scroll through the links, you’ll notice that Heiligenschein has posted links to several different articles from VDare.com, which the SPLC describes as an “anti-immigration hate website” which “regularly publishes articles by prominent white nationalists, race scientists and anti-Semites.” Note to MRAs: if you’re disinclined to take the word of the SPLC on anything, all you need to do to get a sense of VDare’s genteel racism is to do a search on the site for, well, the word “racism,” or “immigrant.” Or you can read VDare founder Peter Brimelow’s repulsive victim-blaming post on the “root causes” of the Sikh temple murders in Wisconsin.

Heiligenschein  also links to the virulently anti-immigrant American Patrol Report and a Confederacy-loving group called the Georgia Heritage Council; a quick glance at either group’s website will reveal what sort of organizations these are. He also links to a pretty hateful site called A Voice for Men, which some of you may have heard of already.

But the connection to the racist far-right goes beyond a couple of links. The five other moderators of the r/splc subreddit – mayonesa, dvance, Octuple, salsaverde, warkin – are also the moderators of reddit’s race-obsessed “new right” subreddit. Some of the submissions in that subreddit at the moment:

18% of marriages by Chinese and Japanese Americans are to Jews. Thoughts?

The poison of multiculturalism

USA Olympic athlete waves Mex flag: propaganda-bearing parasite prole being used as an infectious agent by the master parasite class?

The not-so-fab five also moderate a smaller subreddit called “alternative right,” a dog-whistle term amongst the far right for (pseudo) intellectual racism and so-called “human biological diversity.” Some of the submissions there, all of them submitted by moderator Mayonesa:

Emo neckbeards having hategasm over pro-white flyer

“I believe Europe to be the ‘white man’s country’. If they don’t want non-whites among them, I think it’s fair.”

Diversity perversity: Behind multicultural push is effort to degrade American culture

The West has been seriously damaged by Communist successes at memetic subversion.

The five run at least two more subreddits devoted to this kind of crap.

Just so you know, MRAs, these are the sort of people you end up hanging out with once you join the SPLC anti-fan club.

Naturally, the handful of comments I found in the r/mensrights discussion on the subject pointing out that the r/splc moderators were a bunch of race-obsessed far-right extremists — see here, here, and here –  all got downvotes from the regulars there.

You’re digging your own hole here, MRAs.

Posted on August 13, 2012, in a voice for men, hate, hypocrisy, irony alert, misogyny, MRA, oppressed white men, racism, reactionary bullshit, reddit, splc and tagged , , , , , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 240 Comments.

  1. NOTE TO MRA TRYING TO POST HERE: I’m not going to let your comments through, not because of their content but because every time you try to post one you do so under a different name. (I can see your IP, dude.)

  2. What is it WITH the thread necromancers lately? Eesh.

  3. People aren’t MRA’s just because they disagree with you. Seriously you’re how old 50+ and you still don’t get that?

  4. “NOTE TO MRA TRYING TO POST HERE: I’m not going to let your comments through”

    Good ole’ censorship. If you can’t debate using truth and reason, silencing someone will do just fine.

    “To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer and impossible to ignore.” ~ J Briant

    I’m sure this post will be removed, most likely dismissed as “hate speech” without any explanation.

    I believe in free speech. But that’s just me. You are entitled to your own opinion.

    Cheers

  5. Matt, you are a fucking moron, moderation isn’t about censorship, it’s about keeping ignorant bullshit like what you’re spewing out of places where it doesn’t belong. If you want to go whine about how the vast fempirial conspiracy is censoring you, go back to reddit, you’ll be better recieved there.

  6. Let me clarify: MRAs are free to post here. My note was directed at a *specific* MRA (that is, one individual person) who was trying to post here under a variety of different names — ie, he or she was sockpuppeting, which is against my comment policy.

  7. Hence my reference to being able to see this person’s IP address when they tried to comment. That’s how I knew it was the same person posting under different names.

  8. RE: Matt

    “To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer and impossible to ignore.” ~ J Briant

    “HAI I LIKE DINOSAURS DID YOU KNOW DINOSAURS LIVED IN HUMAN TIMES AND WE RODE THEM AND FED THEM SNICKERS AND AND AND–”

    “Dude, shut up. What the hell.”

    “YOU ONLY TRY TO SILENCE ME BECAUSE I’M RIGHT!”

    Seriously, what a shitass quote.

  9. Hey, dumbass Matt – censorship is about governments limiting what can be said. It, and free speech, are not about you getting to blather on a privately owned website if the owner doesn’t want you to.

  10. matt: Good ole’ censorship. If you can’t debate using truth and reason, silencing someone will do just fine.

    “To attempt to silence a man is to pay him homage, for it is an acknowledgement that his arguments are both impossible to answer and impossible to ignore.” ~ J Briant

    I’m sure this post will be removed, most likely dismissed as “hate speech” without any explanation.

    I believe in free speech. But that’s just me. You are entitled to your own opinion.

    Cheers

    Good old self-valorising rubbish.

    1: This isn’t the gov’t. No one is required to allow any asshole who wants to be an ass to be an ass in their presence.

    2: There isn’t any content in that statement of yours. Really. All it says is you wish assholes were allowed to stink up the place.

    3: You were allowed to say it. Going to apologise for being an asshole?

    4: Not all opinions are of equal validity. Some are just plain wrong. Giving them equal time is why people think the Post Office is non-competitive (fact is, that were the post office allowed to run its pension like the rest of the Gov’t [which it isn’t], they would be about 1.5 billion in the black. If they were allowed to run their pensions like fedEX, it would be more like 2 billion).

    5: Dave allows a lot of wrong to post here, so you don’t have any legs to stand on. Neither moral, nor logical, nor even in terms of political science, can you honestly say Dave doesn’t give the other side a far chance to defend itself.

    So why are you lying?

  11. Because he’s an MRA and they wouldn’t know the truth if it slapped ‘em with a fish?

  12. I love it when people quote mine other people and then go on about the nobility of free discourse. Fucking amazing.

  13. Wow, Matt believes in free speech everyone…but what does that have to do with basic moderation policies? Going for deep with the Briant comment? It didn’t work. Try Kafka next time. Meanwhile, PMA thinks he’s getting David’s goat by suggesting he’s a 50 -something-year-old. You guys are wildly ageist as you are sexist.

  14. These guys are idiots. Hey, Matt–do you feel stupid? You should.

  15. Perhaps he should add an e, so he’d be Matte, as in Dull.

  16. Kitteh’s: LOL

  17. **giggle**

  18. I’d say that one knows an MRA is lying when the lips are moving, but they have to read sometimes.

  19. I think it is time to repost that get your own effing blog gif. I do not remember who made it but it is very good and excellent!

  20. This sort of free speech means I am entitled to scream at you in your living room goes a long way to explain why so many MRAs are soooo shocked when they get arrested.

  21. Argenti Aertheri

    “I believe in free speech. But that’s just me. You are entitled to your own opinion.”

    You’re an asshole, and I’d rather be playing Bach, just an opinion! (Note, my fingers are somewhere between screaming and numb thanks to Bach)

  22. Between screaming and numb … whimpering, maybe? (Owwww.)

  23. I love how MRAs accuse David (and feminists) of silencing MRA views, on a website that he updates daily, and we read, with quotes from MRAs.

    Yeah, we can’t handle ur massiv truuf boms.

  24. “massiv truuf boms” sounds like a cute name for cat bums and their, ah, products.

  25. But of course, MRAs are the only ones who preach “DA TROOF”. Us feminists are just part of an NWO, Illuminati, Reptilian conspiracy to silence the men who know the truth that all men are driven solely by their loins and should never have to check themselves on anything ever.

  26. And I know it’s probably irrelevant, but I’m still quite happy with my anarchkitty avatar.

  27. Nothing about kitties and avatars is ever irrelevant! :) I can’t make up my mind what avatar I want, so I’m having fun mucking around with ‘em.

  28. Dishonest. The SPLC admit that AVFM is not a hate site- claiming they have been misunderstood. What creeps! They are all about the money.

  29. Mr. Ford: <a href =http://img33.glitterfy.com/12117/glitterfy2193958T831D30.gifWhen did the SPLC claim AFVM was a hate site?

    To claim they did appears to be… what is the word… it’s right on the tip of my tongue… right, that’s it…

    Dishonest.

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