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Science proves the Men’s Rights subreddit to be totally not (completely) misogynistic

So apparently I’m way off base with this “misogyny” thing. For example, I have been under the impression that I have been finding misogynistic stuff in the Men’s Rights subreddit, like, all the time. With upvotes, and everything. But evidently I’m wrong.

Because now ignatiusloyola, one of the subreddit mods, has done a very scientific study that proves beyond a reasonable doubt that, well, whatever misogyny is there is officially not a big damn deal.

Ig explains his protocol:

I did a quick scan of the first 400 comments on the list (100/page, 4 pages in). I scanned for words like “cunt” and “whore”, and read the context of these. I looked for the words “woman” and “women”, and read the context of these. I looked for “suffrage” and “vote” also.

I found two comments that used the word “cunt”, one of them was used to describe men, the other to describe a specific woman. The only instances of “whore” were “attention whore”.

There were two comments involving the word “woman” that generalized women with negative stereotypes.

“Suffrage” and “vote” instances did not involve any context that suggested that women did not deserve the right to vote.

How a person defines “hatred of women”, either loosely (suggestive from context, rather than explicit) or strictly (explicit statements), it is pretty clear that out of 400 comments, very few are misogynistic.

Does misogyny exist? Yes. But it does not seem to be a significant contribution to r/MensRights. At best, people are seeing a few comments and focusing on their existence while ignoring the rest.

It’s a lot like that time Michael Richards did that standup routine, and everyone focused on that one word he said, totally ignoring all the other words he used that were totally not racist slurs. I mean, yeah, he said that word a bunch of times, but it still made up a very small percentage of all the words he used that evening.

So that’s that, then. Misogyny, officially not a problem!

Or that would have been that, had Ig not actually posted about his experiment to the subreddit he had just proved was, like, totally non-misogynistic:

Because it turned out that a couple of the fellas had an issue with Ig’s methodology. In particular, that stuff about female suffrage. Because, apparently, you can totally be against women having the right to vote and still not be a misogynist. As zyk0s put it (garnering upvotes in the process):

[T]here’s the matter of female suffrage. I really don’t see how suggesting women should not have been granted the right to vote is misogyny. It might be motivated by it, but not necessarily so, and treating it as such is akin to criminalizing holocaust denial: it’s censorship, pure and simple, and if [1] /r/MR wants to keep calling itself an open space where ideas are not silenced, that attitude has to change.

Our friend Demonspawn went even further(and got a few upvotes himself):

Suggesting that the government works better without the women’s vote is not misogyny. It’s an analysis of the facts and the consequences of allowing women’s suffrage.

Suggesting that women retain the right to vote without the corresponding responsibilities that men face is misandry.

So there you have it. The Men’s Rights subreddit doesn’t have a misogyny problem; if anything, it’s a hotbed of misandry.

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Posted on August 10, 2012, in antifeminism, I'm totally being sarcastic, it's science!, misandry, misogyny, MRA, reddit, the c-word, whores, woman's suffrage and tagged , , , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 934 Comments.

  1. Testosterone = humour? Seriously Tom, it’s not the hard chairs making your arse hurt, it’s all the things you keep pulling out of it.

  2. @ Tom- You jumped from vaguely sexist hypothesizing to assuming your hypothesis as an absolute truth without all that kind of important ‘testing’ and ‘proof’ in between. Are you allergic to reason?

  3. “Please work on your humour-generating skills and get back to us.”

    Why Tom, it almost sounds like you’re trying to insult me into shutting up because you can’t justify your arguments. But that couldn’t be true of such an intelligent and thoughful individual, so I’ll restate myself in smaller words for you.

    Why do you think that wit is indicative of long-term health?

    Why do you think feminists should encourage men to choose their partners according to reproductive potential?

  4. Monsieur sans Nom

    Testosterone = humour?

    Women have testosterone too, you know. Just not as much as men.

  5. Monsieur sans Nom

    I do know some funny women. They aren’t common but they’re out there…..Curiously enough, they are not feminists yet they aren’t submissive women who believe in traditional gender roles either! What they are, are women who don’t take womanhood too seriously. These are the kind of chicks who can laugh at offensive, politically incorrect, punch-down humor instead of getting butthurt.

  6. “Women have testosterone too, you know. Just not as much as men.”

    Anyone else having a sarcastic reply overload here?

  7. I have a much shorter ring finger for instance, whilst most comedians have longer ring fingers, indicating they were exposed to more testosterone during gestation, and after being born.

    Ohmigod, my ring finger is longer than my index finger. Why, I must be a super-secret comedian deep down inside. I know that Tom says that women aren’t funny, but I suppose it’s really digit ratio that counts.

    I hate to bring something like facts or reason into this (after all, I wouldn’t want the truth to crush my new burgeoning career as a comedian), but does this information apply to female comedians? Most comedians are men. Most men have longer index fingers. Should we be surprised that most comedians have longer ring fingers? Tom, great scientists that you are, surely you realize that your argument here would be a lot more convincing if you could show that female comedians also have longer ring fingers. Link me to that study, and maybe we’ll take you seriously.

    And, Tom, I realize that your strength lies in being a Great Scientist and Noble Warrior Against Misandry, and clearly I can’t ask you to be all things to all people, but I think that blaming your complete failure at getting a sense of humor on the length of your ring finger just might be a bit unfair.

    The longer a ring finger, the shorter the punch line.

    And of course, Tom has citations for this correlation between humor and digit ratio.

    . . .

    Well, I’m sure they exist. Somewhere. In Tom’s imagination, if nothing else.

    So to me, it is interesting to see how people who don’t have the highest testosterone nevertheless manage to be reasonably quick-witted.

    Um, wouldn’t that seem to indicate that being quick-witted isn’t caused by high testosterone. I mean, I know that I’m not a great scientist like Tom is, but I would think that this rather undermines his whole hypothesis.

  8. So what you’re saying, MsN, is a sense of humour=laughing at stuff you find funny. And you find sexist stuff funny. So women suffer from a lack of sense of humour because they refuse to laugh at sexist jokes.

  9. I love how MSN’s working definition of humor is “laughing at my sexist jokes.”

    If you want to see some actual humor, watch pretty much any episode of Parks and Recreation that was written by Amy Poehler. Particularly “The Fight” from Season 3. Poehler is both a feminist and funny as hell.

  10. Monsieur sans Nom

    Wrong, Vitamin D. I find crude humor funny, but I know that many women refrain from laughing at it(even when it’s totally not sexist, like fart jokes)because they’re more self-conscious about what others think of them and flaunting social norms can warrant disapproval from others. But there is plenty of offensive humor out there that has nothing to do with sex-ism.

  11. Wow. Tom Martin took that pop sci story about how you could supposedly tell if people were gay and hallucinated the rest.

  12. fart jokes

    You realize that most people don’t laugh at fart jokes not because they flaunt social norms, but because they’re stupid, right? Like, if you were said “And then I let one RIP” to, say, Oscar Wilde, Amy Poehler, or Louis C. K., they wouldn’t laugh, but it’s not because they have no sense of humor. It’s because they’re not morons.

  13. Monsieur sans Nom

    If you want to see some actual humor, watch pretty much any episode of Parks and Recreation that was written by Amy Poehler. Particularly “The Fight” from Season 3. Poehler is both a feminist and funny as hell.

    I first read that as “South Park”…..Now I am disappoint. :( FYI, South Park is hella funny, as was Beavis & Butthead.

    WTF is sexist about “People of Walmart”? It’s hilarious because those people not only are insipid, but willfully embarrass themselves by going out in public that way! :-P

  14. I find crude humor funny, but I know that many women refrain from laughing at it(even when it’s totally not sexist, like fart jokes)because they’re more self-conscious about what others think of them

    Has it occurred to you that the reason only some nonfeminist women laugh at your stupid jokes is because those are the women who feel a social obligation to validate you?

  15. Monsieur sans Nom

    Yes it has, Ugh. And I know for a fact that such is completely untrue.

  16. MSN, we know you like classist and racist jokes too.

  17. WTF is sexist about “People of Walmart”? It’s hilarious because those people not only are insipid, but willfully embarrass themselves by going out in public that way! :-P

    I don’t know about sexist, but it is straight up assholish to take pictures of people just going to the store to make fun of their appearance on the Internet. It is also an obviously moronic thing to find funny. It is the kind of humor that would be enjoyed in the future depicted in Idiocracy.

    South Park had its moments. It was at its most clever when it was making fun of the American asshole culture that gave rise to things like People of Walmart, though.

  18. MSN- … Huh. That was kind of thoughtful and empathetic. I’m going to go ahead and say it doesn’t lead to no sense of humour, just a different sense of humour. Also, There are quite a few people who just don’t find crude humour funny, but one thing at a time. But, you know, way to put yourself in women’s position in a non-hateful way. Do something nice for yourself today, you totally earned it.

  19. Yes it has, Ugh. And I know for a fact that such is completely untrue.

    Sure you do. Everyone just HAS to find the same jokes funny as adults that they found funny when they were nine, right? It’s only evil feminism that prevents normal adults from laughing over and over again at bodily functions. THIS IS CLEARLY THE MORE LOGICAL EXPLANATION.

  20. You mean flouting social norms, not flaunting. Flaunting social norms would be, I dunno, making signs that say “We drink our tea with milk!” and waving them at vegans.

  21. @viola

    LOL! Best. Movement. Ever.

  22. Monsieur sans Nom

    OP-ED: Farts are funny because farting is a bodily function that people do in public(and quite often accidentally). Bodily functions ARE rather disgusting which is why we do them in private and I say that’s how it should be. Just because something is natural, doesn’t mean that it’s “good” or pleasant to contemplate. That being said, farting in public in a noticeable way is a source of embarrassment. MUCH of humor focuses on ways of coping with embarrassment.

    Nonetheless, yeah, I like crude humor but not to the exclusion of other types of humor….Like Irony in particular. The movie Ghost World totally cracked me up. As did Soul Plane and I heart Huckabees.

  23. MUCH of humor focuses on ways of coping with embarrassment.

    It’s true. A much larger portion of humor focuses on things that are new or unexpected. Fart jokes have been done to death. Making one now is worse than just quoting Futurama.

    So what are these oh so hilarious jokes that you make that feminism has cruelly prevented most women from laughing at?

  24. @ MSN- It just so happens I enjoy fart humour myself, but it is pretty low brow and some very funny people just don’t find a well timed fart witty or clever. Look, I don’t get it either, but I recognize that this doesn’t mean they aren’t funny, or they don’t find other stuff funny, it’s just that we don’t share a love of this particular genre. Offensive humour, on the other hand, kind of reminds me of people who think it’s funny when other people hurt themselves. Like the bully in class who walked up behind people, punched them in the kidneys and thought it was hilarious. The whole punchline is ‘and this person sucks because they are dumb for being in the way of my fists’. Not really funny, just cruel.

  25. @MSN

    Also, your political beliefs don’t count as a joke, although in the case of Canadarm sex the line between the two is very thin.

  26. And I’ll admit, it’s still possible to make a funny fart joke, but it has to be pretty original. I laughed pretty hard at the food poisoning scene in Bridesmaids because it was just miles more awkward than basically any previous movie scene like that.

    Still, I think 99% of all fart jokes are basically reruns of the top film in Idiocracy’s America.

  27. Women laugh at crude humour just as much as men. The funnier a person is, the harder it is to make them laugh, therefore, it is easier to make women laugh. Feminists should be funnier than non-feminist women though, due to higher IQ, and higher testosterone, so it should be harder to make a feminist laugh.

    Laughing is good for us, but being the victim of a joke is not – so it is important to generate humour which makes people laugh but which doesn’t attack others.

    I should be focusing on attacking the occupational choice of prostitute (in all its forms), rather than the person.

    Likewise, the man-hating sentiments in feminism, rather than the feminists.

    Likewise, the woman-hating sentiments in the MRM, rather than the movement.

  28. @ Tom- Wow, so much un-evidence claim making! So rather than bother with that silly study on which gender is funnier (already done, with results showing what non-sexists already knew) you are just going to go ahead and assume you were right all along? And throw a couple on unproven assertions on top of the first? If your take away is that you don’t want to be mean to people directly (just their profession), I guess it’s not a complete waste in the day of Tom Martin. But still really awful. No cookies for you. And about this whole ‘feminists have more testosterone than non-feminists’ thing. Beyond the obvious ‘wtf, that so clearly needs proof my brain is bleeding’ rebuttle, are you saying the women who are funnier than you on this site (and there are quite a few) have more testosterone than you? And are, in a way, manlier than you?

  29. Monsieur sans Nom

    Besides crude humor, I also love satire and irony. Like this:

    Many hipsters hate it cuz they are foolish enough to take their scene too srsly and are unable to laugh at themselves. The thing is, I am just as likely to wear a T-Shirt saying “hippies smell”(and hippies are NOT sub-middle class FYI)as I am to laugh at People Of Wallmart. In the 90s, I was constantly mocking upper middle class grungemeisters for their intentionally ugly style of dress because they thought that bad taste and poor hygiene made them “authentic”. Ghost World the move mocks american culture and in particular, positivism. Thats why it’s awesome. ;)

  30. Likewise, the woman-hating sentiments in the MRM, rather than the movement.

    You’re aware that women-hating is the only consistent feature of “the movement,” right? It’s not possible to meaningfully separate the two.

  31. Hipsters(TM) aren’t a thing. They’re a collection of strawpeople held up by those who are desperate to convince the world they’re aren’t hipsters.

  32. Haha making fun of hipsters and emo kids is not exactly avant-garde there, dude. It got played out for me in the tenth grade. And this video pretty much just goes for the low-hanging fruit. Yes, we all know hipsters like things that are ironic. Hearing it for the hundredth time is not all that hilarious.

    In the 90s, I was constantly mocking upper middle class grungemeisters for their intentionally ugly style of dress because they thought that bad taste and poor hygiene made them “authentic”.

    Constantly? How many “jokes” can you get out out that?

    Here’s a fun thought experiment: try to come up with a joke that is not actually just a criticism of how someone else dresses, talks or acts. Or is a criticism that brings in novelty, social subversion, warmth, irony, broken logic, wit, self-awareness or any of the other things that most people consider part of humor.

    Saying “this unpopular and widely ridiculed group does not meet my social norms” is kind of like saying “This apple is red. HAHAHA.” Except at least the apple thing would be kind of unexpected.

  33. @ MSN- it was cute, she is talented.
    “What?! We’re practically obligated to burn their vinyls and concert tickets we got with the money we pretend we’re bereft of, are you kidding me?”

  34. As a reference, this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HMGIbOGu8q0 is an an example of vicious mockery that brings in a whole bunch of satire, emotional storytelling, and witty phrases to actually be funny.

  35. Oh, real quick, people who enjoy homeopathic remedies and hipsters are not the equivalent of oppressed minority groups. I really hope that is painfully obvious.

  36. howardbann1ster

    “The funnier a person is, the harder it is to make them laugh, therefore, it is easier to make women laugh.”

    This… this is like logic. It has a premise, and a claim, and… and…

    My god, my brain is melting!!!

    The funniest people I know laugh harder and longer than anybody else. WTF are you smoking, Tom?

  37. howardbann1ster

    Like Irony in particular. The movie Ghost World totally cracked me up. As did Soul Plane and I heart Huckabees.

    Can you define irony for me there, buddy?

  38. Hipsters(TM) aren’t a thing. They’re a collection of strawpeople held up by those who are desperate to convince the world they’re aren’t hipsters.

    So true.

  39. howardbann1ster

    “South Park is hella funny…”

    Yes, yes, we know, you have all the refined tastes of a day-old fruitfly. We get it!

    What we want to know is why you’re proud of it.

  40. “The funnier a person is, the harder it is to make them laugh, therefore, it is easier to make women laugh.”

    This… this is like logic. It has a premise, and a claim, and… and…

    It’s like “This painting is obviously authentic because it looks totally different than everything else the artist painted, and if you were going to make a forgery you’d make it look the same.” You can sort of see where it’s coming from, and yet…

  41. howardbann1ster

    Katz: YES.

  42. Confession time: I made pretty much that exact argument one time in a college paper XD

  43. I first read that as “South Park”…..Now I am disappoint. FYI, South Park is hellafunny, as was Beavis & Butthead.

    Yeah, if not finding Beavis & Butthead or South Park the height of comedic genuis makes me a humorless feminist from Nofunnington, that’s fine by me. Really. I think I’ll survive.

  44. howardbann1ster

    Katz, did you get an A? That totally deserves an A.

  45. MSN likes South Park. Quelle surprise.

    “Everybody but us is an ideologically motivated moralistic jerkwad. Let me prove that to you via this episode in which we unthinkingly parrot a libertarian talking point and literally have the kids give you a little ‘this is the moral of this episode’ speech at the end.”

  46. Oh, real quick, people who enjoy homeopathic remedies and hipsters are not the equivalent of oppressed minority groups. I really hope that is painfully obvious.

    I thought the sketch Ugh linked to was primarily mocking the people who sell and promote homeopathic remedies, not the people who use them. If it had been mocking the people who use them, I doubt it would have been as funny.

    There’s just something mean-spirited about mocking the people who use homeopathic remedies. Ultimately, I feel that that would boil down to something like this:

    “Ha! Look at those sick people. They’re so desperate for a cure that they’ve managed to convince themselves that this nonsense will make them better. Either that, or they don’t know much about medicine and were never taught the critical thinking skills to figure out how stupid homeopathy is. And now they’re throwing their money away on snake oil. Desperate and uneducated people getting scammed is just hilarious.”

    Mocking the victims of a scam is different from mocking the scam artist.

    But I’m being a nit-picky pedant here. Even if that sketch had mocked the victims rather than the scam artists, it still wouldn’t be the equivalent of mocking an oppressed minority group.

  47. @Anathema

    To be fair, I think the sketch does mock patients of homeopathy a little bit as well. And it is vicious. But I think what saves it is 1. It’s clever enough to mock doctor dramas, homeopaths, and patients all at once, 2. It has actual characters who do unexpected things and are relatively complex (they are also the victims of homeopathic scams, by their bartender) and 3. Mockery of homeopathy has never been used as a tool to silence and economically marginalize a group of people.

    I mean, yeah, it is kind of mean. But these three things make it a lot better than 99% of offensive humor.

  48. The funnier a person is, the harder it is to make them laugh, therefore, it is easier to make women laugh.

    Dear Tom,

    You have all the humor and self-awareness of a dry heave given flesh, awareness, and a Youtube account, and so should really not be talking about humor at all.

    xoxo

    Tulgey

  49. I have a much shorter ring finger for instance, whilst most comedians have longer ring fingers, indicating they were exposed to more testosterone during gestation, and after being born.

    Ah, so that explains why women’s fingers are chubby little Cabbage Patch things.

    Jesus, not the testosterone-ring finger thing again. That horse is so dead, I used it in kindergarten art class.

  50. @ Ugh,

    I suppose I’m just really irked by people who feel the need to look down their noses at victims of scams and laugh at their misfortune. There are times when people mock alternative medicine users where there’s this “people who use alternative medicine are so stupid and gullible, not smart like me” vibe that makes me kind of uncomfortable. The arrogance annoys me. In the right set of circumstances, even the most skeptically-minded person could fall for some nonsensical scam. If you don’t have access to the proper information, if you’re desperate enough, it’s really easy to be fooled.

    I can see what you mean about the sketch mocking the people who use homeopathy too. I guess it didn’t annoy me as much there because it was focusing more on the people who promote homeopathy and the ridiculous nature of homeopathy itself than it was on homeopathy users. (And, in my opinion, the first two things on that list deserve all the vicious mocking they can get.) The two main characters in the sketch might end up being victims of the bartender’s scam, but they are primarily mocked as supposed healers rather than victims. We laugh more at the antics of the two doctors than the patient dying in their care. That makes a difference to me.

    So yeah, you’re right, the sketch does mock the victims of homeopathy some, but not nearly as much as it does the nature of homeopathy itself and the people who sell and promote it.

    But, yeah, it’s much better 99% of offensive humor out there.

  51. That horse is so dead..

    You say that now.. but you’ll be sorry when this happens.

  52. It would be possible to write a sketch similar to the Mitchell and Webb homeopathy sketch, on the effectiveness of “women the only victims” style feminist advocacy:

    The ship is sinking due to a leak, but the hole is in the male quarters, and the women’s group that formed in the first place at the other end of the boat (from their now elevated position) look down on the men, who are frantically bailing out water. The men ask for help, but the women claim that the fault is at the male end of the boat, and therefore it should be men’s job to sort out their own problems.

    Men argue they built the boat in the first place to sort out everyone’s problems – but the women claim that’s because men wouldn’t let women help with the building.

    The boat keeps sinking, men’s end sinking deeper, thus elevating women’s end even further. The women declare that it is clearly a patriarchal system, with men on top, as the men’s heads are submerged, Douchetrail nodding in total agreement from under the water, “Blubba blabba bleeble”.

    The women pat themselves on the back.

    The whole boat sinks.

  53. @ Tom- Wow. Obviously not funny, but the really odd bit is how you imagine it to be even remotely related to the Mitchel and Web sketch above. The M&W sketch wasn’t a vague and ominous metaphor. Hell, it didn’t even take place at sea. And I seem to recall there being a joke in there somewhere. Dude, you might want to consider some hormonal replacement therapy or something, because if the above attempt at humour is any indicator your testosterone levels are dangerously low.

  54. Well to be fair, Vitamin D, he did already admit that his fingers are the wrong size for comedy.

  55. @ShadetheDruid — I’m sorry now. Monster horse! Kill it with fire! Or if fire doesn’t work, try electricity!

  56. Yes Vitamin D. Another hilarious point.

    I tend to be able to think of funny scenarios, but work best collaborating with others who punch lines up.

    To get to those lines, collaborators would listen to the scene I’ve just painted for instance, and say “yes, and… ” in order to perpetuate the humour-finding process.

    Being a manboobzer, you’ve said “No! Not funny!”

    My point is, out-funny me (or shut up).

    Women are believed to have greater or deeper humour-appreciating capacity than men, as women process jokes with both sides of their brain, where as men use only one side apparently.

    The trouble is, there is little correlation between being able to judge a joke, and being able to generate a joke.

    Women going around saying “Not funny!” is er… not funny.

    “I’ve got a vagina so don’t need to be funny” is not going to cut it.

  57. @ Tom- I’m not really sure if ‘out funny me or shut up’ really qualifies as a point, Tom. Seems more like a pout.
    Oh, just so you know, asking actual funny people to be funny for you doesn’t qualify as a talent. Really, if your only contribution to the creative process was showing up, it’s pretty fair to say you contributed absolutely nothing.
    Also, you’re slipping into passive voice a bit. It’s not “women are believed to blah blah whatever you said”, it’s, “I believe women to blah blah something sexist”. Or, if you are drawing on some research, “this sketchy article that subscribes to the tired myth that people are more right brained or left brained has made some highly suspect claims about how women and men process humour differently. Sexism rules”. Just, you know, watch your tenses is what I’m trying to say.
    And who the hell has been saying “I have a vagina so I don’t need to be funny”? Anyone? Why does this non-existent person feel she needs to be funny, and why does she feel her vagina will excuse her? I admire your stern but fair appraisal of the matter- a person this confusing should be cut absolutely no slack.

  58. So, you’re hilarious as long other people write the jokes for you? What, apart you not being at all funny, do you think that proves, Tommy?

  59. “I’ve got a vagina so don’t need to be funny” is not going to cut it.

    Do you really think women think this?

    You just can’t stand the fact that some women are better than you, can you? Women go around acting like they’re important and intelligent and funny (gasp) andit chaps your ass, because nothing you attempt seems to ever work, and your entire life is shaded by nothing but failure. I could tell the funniest joke in the world, and you wouldn’t find it funny because I’m a woman. But if you truly had a good sense of humor, you would understand that the funniest remarks come from spontaneous conversation, and are indicative of quick thinking and wit– not some rehearsed joke you tell over and over again at parties.

  60. What’s the difference between a man’s bum, a woman’s bum and a straw hat?

    And does the humour of this joke vary depending on the sex of who tells it? (It’s most funny told by a small child, of course.)

  61. I also love how a specific criticism about his premise being vague and containing no actual jokes translates to single sentence (It’s not funny!) the minute it hits Tommy’s brain.

    You’re not just unable to take criticism, dude. You seem to be unable to process it.

  62. @Tom

    My point is, out-funny me (or shut up).

    It doesn’t work that way, people don’t have to be funny to point out that you don’t have a funny bone in your body.
    The scenario you posted is lacking in anything that could potentially be considered a joke. The ending is completely predictable and can be seen from a mile away, there is no unpredictability, no contradicting expectations, no snappy timing, not even a humorous observation on something that happens in real life. It’s a pointless and artificial scenario constructed to illustrate your own prejudices with no regards to anything that resembles humour.

    Women are believed to have greater or deeper humour-appreciating capacity than men, as women process jokes with both sides of their brain, where as men use only one side apparently.

    Also, the “two sides of the brain” thing? It’s a myth, it’s not true. There is no evidence that one side of the brain has more to do with certain processes than the other. Brain processing is split pretty much evenly between both hemispheres.

  63. If it makes you feel any better, I think a suitable punchline to that little boat-Aesop would have been someone, floating with all the miserable survivors in their lifejackets, saying what a shame it is that the water pump went down with the boat.

  64. captainbathrobe

    The funnier a person is, the harder it is to make them laugh, therefore, it is easier to make women laugh.

    Actually, Tom, I think that people with more developed senses of humor laugh more easily than those without, because there is so much more that they find funny. The MRAs I’ve seen around here, however, take themselves very, very seriously and generally fail at being funny.

  65. Fembot said,

    … I could tell the funniest joke in the world, and you wouldn’t find it funny because I’m a woman.

    Fembot, genuine laughter is involuntary. A bog standard victim-feminist mindset will not help you be funny for sure.

    There have been comments on these threads where manboobzers have admitted they’ve laughed hard at the humour in my comments, despite not wanting to show me any support.

    I admit, that the instances where this has happened have usually been where I have pulled some canned material out at a relevant time – so if someone says “Do you hate women?”, I’m ready with “Not normally.”

    It may be a canned answer, but I wrote it and canned it, so it is always genuine and funny in the heat of the moment.

    Seemingly effortlessly funny people just have more canned material, but also may be able to adapt it faster to fit whatever situation.

    I was speaking to a supremely funny university friend once, saying to him “I think I’ve figured out why you’re so funny. You are a very attentive listener” and he said “What was that?”

    I asked him where he got that joke from, and he just said “standard procedure”.

    Likewise in class, a lecturer asked him what rules he had in the creative process with his writing partner for one of his films, and he replied “No biting.” I asked him again, where he got it from, and he said “standard procedure”. He’d thought it through. Situations repeat themselves.

    I was chatting with a nurse, about the importance of women paying their own way, after she’s been going on about the importance of men buying her shit.

    I convinced her she was being a baby, and eventually she cracked, saying “Alright! I will buy you a beer.” I congratulated her for the change of attitude, and said something about how nice it would be to have a beer, and she lost interest – so I ruminated on it, and realized, that when she said “Alright! I’ll buy you a beer.” I should have kept it going by saying “Can I just have the money instead?”

    A couple of weeks later, a virtually identical scenario arose, so I was ready with the seemingly quickfire response – and the woman wouldn’t leave me alone all night.

    Comedy is about amassing your own material, then calling on it.
    I have not historically felt the need to do that, but want to focus more on it in the future.

  66. This thread needs more farts.

  67. “This thread needs more farts.”

    Why would we want more of Tom Martin’s comments?

  68. Xtra: Don’t you mean Tom Fartin’? Hurr hurr hurr.

    (Apologies if anyone’s already made that pun, too lazy to check. And also for the shittyness of it. :P ).

  69. @ Tom Martin

    “There have been comments on these threads where manboobzers have admitted they’ve laughed hard at the humour in my comments, despite not wanting to show me any support.”

    If you remove “the humour in”, then you’ve got it spot on.

    I actually think Tom Martin might be a troll on an epic scale – he is, even for an MRA, so ridiculously far out that it might be a massive hoax.

  70. I’ll just point out again that Tom Martin originally planned to sue the LSE as a ‘comedy’ stunt. He then just seemed to really get into playing a delusional victim.

    Now here’s a funny joke:

    How many MRAs does it take to change a lightbulb?
    None, they just sit in the dark screaming at women to do it for them.

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