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Men’s Rights Redditors discover a new woman to hate (and it’s one of the ones I wrote about in my last post)

Reading comprehension: a bit of a problem for the angry dude crowd. So in my post earlier today I wrote about a Redditdude who got so angry reading a relatively innocuous Forbes column by a WOMAN ON TEH INTERNET that he called her a “cunt” and threatened to murder people and got more than a thousand net upvotes. All based on a complete misreading of her article, of which he obviously only skimmed the first paragraph.

Well, now the Men’s Rights subreddit has gotten hold of the Forbes column, and they too are pig-biting mad – not so much at the column itself, which it’s clear not many of them have actually read, but at a straw column they’ve written in their heads which is nothing but EEEVIL MISANDRY.

To reiterate: Kashmir Hill’s column in Forbes notes that some people have come to regard people without Facebook accounts as somehow suspect in our hyper-connected world. Hill finds this a bit silly, and writes:

The idea that a Facebook resister is a potential mass murderer, flaky employee, and/or person who struggles with fidelity is obviously flawed. There are people who choose not to be Facebookers for myriad non-psychopathic reasons: because they find it too addictive, or because they hold their privacy dear, or because they don’t actually want to know what their old high school buddies are up to. My own boyfriend isn’t on Facebook and I don’t hold it against him (too much).

Note to the painfully literal: that parenthetical “too much” in the last sentence is what’s called a “joke.”

Naturally, Reddit’s Men’s Rights squad, not having read much beyond the sarcastic title of Hill’s piece (“Beware, Tech Abandoners. People Without Facebook Accounts Are ‘Suspicious.’”) has concluded that she’s an evil misandrist who’s demonizing men without Facebook as creepy psychopaths. Yes, in addition to getting the argument of her piece completely backwards, they’ve also decided that it’s all about men.

MauraLoona, who submitted the link under the misleading title “Men without Facebook: You’re suspicious and potential stalkers, creeps, and psychopaths” explains in a comment:

While the article uses gender neutral pronouns in some places, the message is obvious: This suspicion is directed at men.

I suspect this might be a case of xenophobia: “I am a woman and love technology, so if you’re a man and don’t share that love for technology, you’re suspicious.”

JohnTheOther, a virtuoso in the fine art of getting things wrong, offers this take:

Forbes, apparently is now in the business of creating boogiemen. No evidence of anything equates to evidence of sinister intent. What utter fear-mongering drivel.

And our old friend Liverotto concludes that when Hill says she doesn’t hold her boyfriend’s lack of a Facebook account against him (much), she’s just lying, like women do:

Yes, of course, she doesn’t hold it against him, that’s why she wrote a full article about people without Facebook being suspicious.

Women are just liars, that’s it, that’s all it is, liars and dissimulators, if you trust what a woman says you are naive.

MRAs really do live in imaginary backwards land, don’t they?

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Posted on August 8, 2012, in creep-shaming, facepalm, hundreds of upvotes, imaginary backwards land, johntheother, misogyny, MRA, oppressed men, reddit and tagged , , , , , . Bookmark the permalink. 308 Comments.

  1. @CC:

    Rape jokes contribute to the “Rape culture” (which doesn’t exist) as much as the Three Stooges encourage physical abuse.

    Yeah, the first is in no way the same as the second. Making rape jokes makes rape seem like not a big deal when it is, which makes people treat cases of rape lightly (and does not discourage people from blaming the victim or excusing the rapist), which allows rape to continue to happen without much penalty. It also makes rape seem like something only a stranger jumping out of the bushes would do, rather than something that someone who does not recognize or care about consent does.

    Ahh, but I wax on about something that you wouldn’t understand. Do continue ranting about how right hitler (or Zyklong B) was. ^_^

  2. Q: What do you call a feminists getting raped by 10 guys with bombs strapped to their backs?

    A: Fucked. (You triggered, bro?)

    Wow. What an asshole. Ithiliana was right.

  3. CC doesn’t think men get raped or can be triggered by PTSD. He mocks trigger warnings, much like the MRM. I mean for a movement the claims victim status, you’re failing! You would need trigger warnings, have respect for them and understand them if you were an oppressed class.

    Well this is basically just more proof you oppress each other.
    So CC you like to abuse your fellow men PTSD sufferers? How nice of you.

  4. captainbathrobe

    I thought “jokes” were supposed to be “funny.”

  5. CC is the type who farts in a crowded elevator and then pushes all of the buttons so the other people are stuck smelling it for 20 floors.

  6. Of course you are.

    Moving on to a more pleasant topic…How is school going Kirby?

  7. I’ve emailed our dark lord about banning; he’s probably asleep. What am I saying?!??!!!? OUR DARK LORD NEVER SLEEPS.

  8. Okay, I call for banning after that last “joke.”

    Agreed. This isn’t amusing any more…

  9. But Fembot, it is obviously funny…if you are two years old. And even more self centered then the average two year old.

  10. @CC

    You’re just stupid. And gross. Go back to wiping your boogers on walls.

  11. @princessbonbon:

    Hasn’t started yet, but it will soon I’m excited! Last year of undergrad… hopefully it’ll be a good one. :)

    Hopefully I can keep up all the cooking I’ve been doing.

  12. HA! A libertarian, it gets funnier.
    I am SHOCKED, SHOCKED I tell you!

  13. Do people not know that Zyklon B was the poison (cyanide) used in the concentration camps? I guess I am older than most of you; I wish this was a thing I could un-learn.

  14. Hasn’t started yet, but it will soon I’m excited! Last year of undergrad… hopefully it’ll be a good one.

    You made sure to do all the really hard classes last year so this year is smooth sailing right?

    Hopefully I can keep up all the cooking I’ve been doing.

    Now I want to go out to your neck of the woods to taste the delectable delights you have been making.

  15. captainbathrobe

    I am a libertarian, by the way, and not a particularly a social conservative.

    Gosh, I imagine none of us are surprised by this earth-shattering new intelligence. What’s especially amusing is that you seem to think this gives you more credibility, not less.

  16. And yes, farting should be shamed, because it’s rude and disgusting. Do it in private. If one slips out, apologize. You don’t take a shit in public, do you?

  17. @cloudiah:

    I did not know that. What the hell did CC mean when he said that he thinks “Zyklon B” was right, then? Was he literally just saying “I’m not defending hitler, but I do agree with genocide?” Cause that actually doesn’t surprise me.

  18. Do people not know that Zyklon B was the poison (cyanide) used in the concentration camps? I guess I am older than most of you; I wish this was a thing I could un-learn.

    No, I did not know what that was. :(

  19. I’d be butthurt ALL DAY!

    Aren’t you already?

  20. PTSD = butthurt.

    You hear that soldiers?
    It’s not longer a physiological reaction!

    More evidence men are not the oppressed class.
    Also people that really do have to watch what they read are usually more triggered by realistic things, not a douche bag libertarian.

  21. CC should win a trophy for shittiest analogies on the internets.

  22. Did someone email the Dark Lord yet?

  23. @princessbonbon:

    You made sure to do all the really hard classes last year so this year is smooth sailing right?

    ummm….

    Now I want to go out to your neck of the woods to taste the delectable delights you have been making.

    Beer bread! And whole wheat bread! And whole wheat pizza! And stir fry! Wierdly, only the last one is made with any regularity. I need to start branching out more…

  24. Can someone make a trophy for CC? It should be made of dried out dog turds and regurgitated cat hairballs.

  25. Beer bread! And whole wheat bread! And whole wheat pizza! And stir fry! Wierdly, only the last one is made with any regularity. I need to start branching out more…

    That doorbell that is ringing is me. “Hi! so you said you have pizza…”

  26. captainbathrobe

    The whole “I don’t agree with Hitler killing the Jews, only that Zyklon B is harmful” shtick is especially idiotic because any sane person knows Zyklon B is harmful; the fact that Hitler may have also believed same does not make it any less true. What a wanker.

  27. I grew up reading about the Holocaust for school, which is probably why I recognized Zyklon B. It’s kind of disturbing that isn’t taught anymore. Maybe not to the level of knowing the name of the poison that was used against people — on the other hand, that level of detail clearly stayed with me, so maybe it’s important to include.

    Do people still at least learn about Anne Frank?

  28. I see that ConservativeCrusader is trying to show me (and everyone else) how unhappy we have made him.

    Awww, did your widdle fee fees get hurt by your being a utter ass?

  29. Meh, just one more obnoxious little turd trying to feel like a badass by spewing bile on the internet. I’m sure CC will be riding this high for a least a week.

  30. I like how his method of convincing us that MRAs aren’t misogynists is to apparently attempt to top the ones that are quoted 8-)

  31. @CC:

    Ah libertarianism. You have every right to act like a turd online, fuck trying to avoid excluding people from your space through rude or obnoxious behavior. If you want the freedom to make all the shitty misogynistic jokes you want, why not try reddit? I hear r/MensRights is a great proponent of Frees Peaches.

  32. @princess I did email the dark lord, but I suspect he is in hibernation (sleeping).

  33. Cloudiah,

    I believe they do. I read up a lot on the holocaust (I had a friend in high school whose parents and aunt were the only survivors of the death camps and I wanted to understand what they went through) but I guess I forgot it or never noticed.

  34. @cloudiah:

    Yeah, Anne Frank is still taught (or at least was when I was taking history courses). They didn’t go into details about how the nazis killed people though (or I didn’t remember those), so maybe that’s a difference. Probably depends a lot on where you go to school too.

  35. @cloudiah

    He must feast on fresh kitteh videos before facing the new dawn.

  36. Looks like CC’s gone. Thanks David. :)

  37. Well he does probably need it after all the kitty racing he is enjoying.

  38. captainbathrobe

    CC is the obnoxious little shit who says “I know your are but what am I?” until you want to punch him. People like him grow up to be “C” students who complain bitterly that the only reason they didn’t get an “A” is that the professor is biased against conservatives.

  39. He must feast on fresh kitteh videos before facing the new dawn.

    I know I am kind of tired of providing these for our dark lord. Is there a commercial service that will do this? :-)

  40. If anyone wants to have a good laugh before they go on off to bed, this person wrote an epic review of Fifty Shades of Grey

    http://www.goodreads.com/review/show/340987215

  41. Yeah, CC is banned and I deleted a bunch of his shit.

    The kitties are temporarily at rest at the moment.

  42. I HAVE SUMMONED THE DARK LORD. (Thanks, David, this dude was f’d up.)

    Kittens at rest tend to stay at rest. Kittens in motion will DESTROY YOUR APARTMENT. These are the laws of physics.

  43. fuuuuuuuck. I go out for a nice evening and come back to read CC. I feel dirty. This is a remedy for me, at least.

  44. captainbathrobe

    David, you just can’t handle the truth…about rape jokes and bad metaphors. You are like some sort of fascist dictator whose name eludes me.

  45. Silencing someone for making a few jokes is exactly like a kitten snuggled up on a warm tummy.

    … I mean, silencing opinions are just like a puppy nuzzling an outstretched hand, asking to be pet.

    … I mean, banning someone is exactly as bad as curing up with a loved one next to a roaring fire, sipping hot cocoa, looking outside at a beautiful blizzard at twilight.

    Damn, turns out I’m really bad at metaphors…

  46. I mean, silencing opinions are just like a puppy nuzzling an outstretched hand, asking to be pet.

    I have one of those right now. And I want to go do that second one.

  47. captainbathrobe

    And so, CC’s ramshackle house of bad metaphors, hilariously bad historical analogies, and rape jokes had been swept away by the wind of David’s banhammer.

  48. Well, we’ll always have the memories…

    *soft focus montage*

    …sigh…

    *wistful gaze*

  49. After all that CC nastyness, I think we need more brain bleach. Hopefully embedding works for me this time.

  50. DOGGIEVIDEOSARETHEBESTVIDEOSESPECIALLYBULLDOGS except for kitty videos.

  51. Hypocrisy at its finest.

    Mikey, dude, if you’re going to sockpuppet you really need to change up your writing style a bit. Did your evil misandric teacher tell you that it was men’s lot in life to be really repetitive or something?

    I wouldn’t be an MRA if feminists weren’t so bitchy and hateful towards men.

    So what the MRM is fighting for is the right, as men, to make feminists stop being bitchy? Truly, this is the greatest civil rights struggle of our time.

  52. And as the Ball of Time rolls towards the Gutter of Eternity and the Moderator of Balance goes “ewww” and flushes his drains – we find it’s the end of the show. Good night from me, the teams, Samantha and a troll.

  53. Chances are he’s going to go back to his echo chamber and say “I was banned for disagreeing with them!”

  54. So according to CC; there’s no such thing as “rape culture”? This post explains it SO frighteningly well:

    http://captainawkward.com/2012/08/07/322-323-my-friend-group-has-a-case-of-the-creepy-dude-how-do-we-clear-that-up/#more-3734

  55. Princessbonbon, thank you for that Fifty Shades link – brilliant! (And the clearest article I’ve read yet on just how slimy and horrible the lousy book is.)

  56. If you want a good read in a book with Shades of Grey in the title, just make sure it doesn’t have Fifty on the start.

    I’d be interested to hear Jasper Fforde’s opinion…

  57. Chances are he’s going to go back to his echo chamber and say “I was banned for disagreeing with them!” – MorkaisChosen

    An accurate prediction, good sir.

    http://conservativecrusadersword.wordpress.com/2012/08/09/banned-in-one-night-from-manboobz/

  58. If you want a good read in a book with Shades of Grey in the title, just make sure it doesn’t have Fifty on the start.

    Personally, I’m holding out for Fitty Shades of Grey: Blood on the Sand.

    Re: ConservativeCumberbund:

    I wouldn’t expect them to see their way out of the whole “they banned me for being right, but I do wonder what got them banned from Tumblr.

    Psst—CravatCrapper, it definitely wasn’t because feminists were afraid of you being right.

  59. Chances are he’s going to go back to his echo chamber and say “I was banned for disagreeing with them!” – MorkaisChosen

    An accurate prediction, good sir.

    Ha! And he doesn’t know what censorship is, either. Predictable.

  60. >>>Do people not know that Zyklon B was the poison (cyanide) used in the concentration camps?

    Yes, but only because it’s featured in, like, a zillion punk songs about Nazis or things punks find nazi-like.

  61. oh god y’all his blog is supposed to be a fucking novel

    Eary 2017

    Her name was Anita Osbourne. She was a fat, black, transexual lesbian ”woman” who was a self-described feminist extremeist. She hated the “man” (I.E. – CIS straight white males) and threatened to harm anyone who falled under this category. Yet no feminists ever called her out on her bullshit: they actually kind of agreed with her.

    She won by a vast majority: With so many feminist women, manginas, and black racists popping up in America, it was almost guranteed. She wore nothing but a black g-string on the first day of her presidentcy.

    She looked into the crowd, notcing the stares of the people…including “the men”. “DON’T SEXUALIZE ME!!!” There was almost a massacre, but she was calmed down enough…after she beat up a man in the crowd. He fought back…and was called an “Abuser”, “homophope”, and “racist”. He was arrested, and sentenced to death by hanging by his white dick.

    maybe it is mkey?

  62. It makes The Turner Diaries sound like high litterature.

  63. maybe it is mkey? – Sharculese

    Not enough repetitive word usage and thesaurus-wanking.

  64. He has to be a regular troll (a regular, trolling?) because his blog went up right as he started posting here and he already had some sort of grudge against us.

  65. Btw, I tried to make a make a portmanteau out of “thesaurus” and a word meaning “masturbation”, but it’s really hard. I just ended up with a really perverted sounding dinosaur and a bunch of nonsense words.

  66. i just call it ‘thesaurus fucking’

  67. i know it was a gazillion years ago but hey, i’m in a different time zone and have a toddler, so to the commenters who thought of buying a plot of land for all the MGTOWers, i bring you

    a space to call their own

    this is a thing, a real thing.

    ah. australia!

  68. presidentcy.

    That tells me all i need to know.

  69. captainbathrobe

    Yep, CC really believes that he pwned the Manboobz commentariate, and that the only reason he was banned is that we just can’t handle his brilliant, edgy, truthbombs.

    Dunning and Kruger…paging messrs Dunning and Kruger.

  70. Ah, maybe CC will stop being an MRA when its pointed out to him that less than a quarter of women are atually feminists?

    CC, you don’t get to treat half the worlds population like shit because an eigth of the population has ideas you don’t like.

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