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Posted on August 7, 2012, in Uncategorized. Bookmark the permalink. 419 Comments.

  1. How the hell is “keep fucking that chicken” an anti-male shaming tactic? You could easily say the same thing to a non-male and it would have exactly the same meaning.

    A meaning tht Tom has completely borked.

    This just further reinforces my idea that Tom Martin thinks misandry is “critcism/negativity directed towards a man.” -_-

  2. @Kirbywarp
    That’s exactly it, though. His big analysis of the gender studies texts that he used in court was simply counting how many times men’s issues were discussed versus women’s issues, and also how often men were criticised.

  3. He even has the criteria he used on his page. I’ll link directly to it to spare you having to look at his home page:

    http://sexismbusters.org/Analysis%20tool%20for%20biased%20texts.pdf

  4. How the hell is “keep fucking that chicken” an anti-male shaming tactic? You could easily say the same thing to a non-male and it would have exactly the same meaning.

    yeah but it was originally said to a dude, so misandry. (by another dude, but that dude was probably an m-feminist. all new anchors are)

  5. @Myoo:

    When he was talking about his on-the-street hokey, he described “misandric utterances” as “negative comments” about men, and “non-misandric utterances” as “neuteral/positive comments.”

    To be fair, he described “misogynistic/non-misogynistic utterances” the same way. Also to be fair, he was absurdly off-base on both. Somebody doesn’t understand how prejudice and sytematic oppression works.

  6. It is certainly what dissuaded me from appealing, in a court of law.

    Yeah, I’m sure that was it, and not the fact that it requires work, as well as a cogent thought process, to file an appeal.

    She has the personality and usefulness of a lone buttress.

    STILL referring to Sharculese as a she? Because only a woman would dare disagree with such strong Tom logic!

    What a dumbshit.

  7. @Myoo:

    Gahh! I went to the homepage to see what the big deal was. DO NOT FREAKING AUTO-START AUDIO ON YOUR WEBPAGE THAT PUTS YOU IN THE 8TH CIRCLE OF WEB-DESIGN HELL MY EAAARRSSS!

  8. When he was talking about his on-the-street hokey,

    which he never actually did…

  9. @kirby

    geocities never died. or at least before it did it laid eggs in tom’s brain.

  10. Far into the distant future, alien beings will discover our planet’s carcass. They will traverse the depths of our sewers and the shells of our buildings. One of the beings will be attacked by a flying internet, and a day or so later a geocities will burst from their chest to infect others.

  11. he should be an expert on cogent men’s rights movement arguments on the interconnectedness of misogyny and misandry,

    Ah, yes; the myth of the middle, “teach the controversy, just like the flat-earthers and the creationists.

    But since he is such an expert, and knows the arguments aren’t cogent he did what anyone who is objective does: he ignored the bullshit.

  12. A pecunium full of shit surprise as usual. I’ll pass.

  13. Crumbelievable

    I just watched your segment on the al_Jazeera site. I loved the cat pictures :)

  14. Keep fucking that chicken of being a total dolt, Tom!

  15. “Not uh! The fucking going on is my arguments fucking yours!” goes down in history as the greatest comeback ever btw.

  16. Tulgey Logger: Almost had Coke all over my keyboard! Hah!

  17. I love the look on (what I assume is) his co-host’s face when he says it. :D

  18. I love it when our gasbags have the vapors over “keep fucking that chicken.”

  19. Crumbelievable

    Remember, misogynists are made, not born

    I can’t tell what’s worse–that you think this is a good argument or that you think this way of thinking is somehow unique

    Black people made me racist
    Gay people made me homophobic.

    You fall right in line with all the other bigots. Congratulations.

  20. Tom, do you mean like how your court case is full of shit? You know, because you got thrown out of the court because you are full of shit. Or is this more on the “I’m claiming it’s full of shit because I can’t have half a brain to make a coherent evidence based argument, thus whores” level full of shit?

    The world needs to know.

  21. Tom… if you want to ignore someone, the best thing to do is ignore them. I have to give this to Varpole, when he decided that talking to me was more than he could handle, he quit.

    You can’t even manage that.

    Protip, if you want to insult someone, say something which has some, passing, relevance to the comment; otherwise all that happens is the people who read it g, “wha…?”.

  22. @scrapemid

    I’m just gonna throw this out there, but since the posts were from yesterday, not sure if he/she will see this:

    Violence is a LEARNED behavior!

  23. Douchetrelle is not a reliable witness of his field of expertise though, rather the proprietor of a domain where the mean average commenter, calling herself morallyambivalent, phoots joke balls to and fro with her clone, to slow the consideration of misandry, on this place, but thinks it’s okay because she’s only joking, because, she thinks sexism is okay, and does not want to relinquish the sexism premium women have always enjoyed, and in despite of everyone else’s progress.

    Mmmm, vinaigrette.

  24. Hey, as far as court transcripts are concerned, 15 pounds a page sounds extravagant to me.

    But then, when my boss wants a transcript, we get a recording of the proceedings from the court and I transcribe it myself.

    We once had a case where our client was suing his neighbor for waving a gun in our client’s face over a barbecue grill.

    Our client kept rubbing his hands over how much money he was going to get from his neighbor, because the neighbor was from $FOREIGN_COUNTRY and that of course meant he was rich … which was a logical progression I never quite followed.

    Our client went so far as to refuse to negotiate an out-of-court settlement, so certain was he of a large judgment.

    Then the court ruled against him.

    He stood on the steps of the courthouse and yelled to the skies: “THERE IS NO JUSTICE FOR THE WHITE MAN!”

    This is what I think of whenever Martin appears in the comments. And then I remember that it’s ridiculously easy in the U.S. for our angry white men to get ahold of hand guns, or just bring a gallon of gasoline to the courthouse steps.

  25. @Falconer

    He stood on the steps of the courthouse and yelled to the skies: “THERE IS NO JUSTICE FOR THE WHITE MAN!”

    Please tell me this is verbatim. Pleeeeaaasssseeee!!

  26. Seconding Shadow. That is amazing, Falconer.

  27. Hey Boobzland – been off working for the past nine-odd hours. Engaging in an initiative/experiment that will drastically improve my department’s efficiency if successful.

    In the meantime, I see you’ve all been busy posting on a feminist blog.

    Tell me again how I owe all my success to my gender. Vile assholes.

  28. Engaging in an initiative/experiment that will drastically improve my department’s efficiency if successful.

    You quit?

  29. @ShadetheDruid dizzay dayum :D

    I can also fuullly imagine that Steele’s quitting would take 9 hours. You know he never can quite stick a flounce. :D

  30. “Tell me again how I owe all my success to my gender. Vile assholes.”

    …you need us to tell you to act like an asshat (like you’ve already been doing)?

  31. Shade… that was perfect. I bow to your sense of timing.

    Me… I’ve done some photography, studied some russian, cleaned a bit of the house, gone shopping, talked wine with the local wine shop, discussed court cases with the local wine shop (the wine expert is also an attorney, she does the wine gig because she likes it, and travels to New Hampshire to practice criminal law when she needs more money, though she’s waiting on the results of her NY Bar Exam), planned supper for three, gone to the farmers’ market to get some veggie, researched yeasts for the mead I want to start fermenting next week, talked to my father, let people know they can now text me (because I had to buy a new phone, and can now text), done some gardening, contemplated my bonsai, responded to the various comments sent to be about the three piece of writing I did yesterday, flirted with the staff at the coffee shop, practiced some dry-fire and yelled at the building maintenance staff for killing my poppies. and practiced a penny-whistle piece which has been giving me troubles (I am still not happy with the the third four, but it’s doing better).

    I think, compared to being a middle manager in a hamster-wheel job I’m doing pretty well.

    I mean I could be slaving away after the fruits of mammon, but I don’t need to; no one is going to fire me if I don’t make their project work right. If I get promoted at my spending money job, that’s because I am meritorious. If I don’t, well most of the people there need the money more than I do.

    But you know, in all the things I’ve done to day, pretending that they made me somehow better than someone who needed to keep his corporate masters happy never entered into it.

    I’m happy being me, I am sufficient in myself.

  32. Hey Boobzland – been off working for the past nine-odd hours. Engaging in an initiative/experiment that will drastically improve my department’s efficiency if successful.

    Cool story, bro. I do that every day, so I don’t really feel the need to brag about it but whatever.

  33. Ah, yes; the myth of the middle, “teach the controversy, just like the flat-earthers and the creationists.

    I would agree – since largely mythical “misogyny” and “patriarchy” have been indoctrinated into our children from birth, I would argue that is only misandry and misandric attitudes that should be taught.

  34. Varpole: I thought you were telling us how all your failure and disappointments in your life’s ambition were because of your gender; the fruits of systemic misandric oppression, which was used to crush your dreams by starving your talents as a writer?

    Which is it, you are a super-successful cog in a big company, or you are a writer, kept from the joy of your life by vile feminism?

    Enquiring minds what to know.

  35. “I would agree – since largely mythical “misogyny” and “patriarchy” have been indoctrinated into our children from birth, I would argue that is only misandry and misandric attitudes that should be taught.”

    Not only is your grammar slipping, so is your mask for trying to be a “reasonable” member of the MRM.

    Oh wait, that mask wasn’t really on in the first place. How awkward.

  36. Pecunium, you have just provided a perfect example as to why I don’t interact with you. I’ve explained my situation on multiple occasions. I am both.

  37. Whoops, I meant, “Your mask of* trying to be “reasonable” member of the MRM.”

    …I think Steele is contagious. Either that, or I think faster than I type.

  38. >>>Engaging in an initiative/experiment that will drastically improve my department’s efficiency if successful.

    Oh god. I just figured it out. You’re in *IT*. Everything is now clear.

    I really shouldn’t laugh at you. You’re the idiots that buy our products.

  39. Falconer, your shirt is brown:

  40. Oh god. I just figured it out. You’re in *IT*. Everything is now clear.

    Well, yes, in a manner of speaking, although “IT” is a very broad term; I work in a specialized department. It’s a challenging job.

  41. Engaging in an initiative/experiment that will drastically improve my department’s efficiency if successful.

    The department is fucked. Cool story, dude.

  42. Steele, i’m sure there are a great deal of things that you find challenging.

  43. Steele, I hope to Christ you’re not writing the manual.

  44. Frankly, I find you Boobzers’ tiny attempts to tear me down vaguely amusing, more than anything else. Had a hard day posting on Boobzland?

  45. Frankly, I find you Boobzers’ tiny attempts to tear me down vaguely amusing, more than anything else.

    Like we give a shit. Go talk about your fabulous life somewhere else.

  46. Not as amusing as we find your tantrums and all-around assiness.

  47. Assiness-I like it :D

  48. Oh, I forgot – my supervisor (who is a woman; it has been explicitly stated to me that women, as a group, receive preference in promotions relative to men), mentioned somewhat obliquely that there may be a substantial raise in my future. I think I may move out to the suburbs, buy a condo. Maybe Ella and I will move in together. And I continue to progress in life.

    Meanwhile the Boobzers post on Boobzland.

  49. captainbathrobe

    @ Steelebuttpole,

    Well, isn’t that fucking special? You have a life and a job…like many, many other people. Good for you. I’m sorry, but I ran out of cookies. Please accept my metaphorical cookie, in recognition of our supreme pwnage.

    Now, I have to leave my job to go pick my kid up from day care because, shockingly, I, too, have a life. Where’s my cookie?

  50. Steele, I hate to point out the obvious to such a mental giant as yourself, but why the fuck are you telling us? Enjoy your semi-affordable condo with your semi-assembled IKEA furniture and semi-life in the suburbs. If you want to call following a script many have acted out before you progress, go on with your bad self. No skin off our asses.

  51. Br-fucking-vo, you pompous ass.

  52. “Enjoy your semi-affordable condo with your semi-assembled IKEA furniture and semi-life in the suburbs.”

    CRYING

  53. Excuse me? There seems to be a general consensus that I am a “loser” and I work a “dead-end job” and I am ultimately dissatisfied with my life. I am merely countering these erroneous beliefs. I believe it may be difficult for the Boobzers to accept, because you are invested in the idea that MRAs are “losers”. Unfortunately, the losers are the misandrist-feminists.

  54. > implying that our only problem with you is your economic status

  55. captainbathrobe

    Excuse me? Is there a reason I should give a shit?

  56. Excuse me? You’re a loser, but that has zero to do with your socio-economic status.

  57. Also, Steele, have you mentioned to Ella in your imagination that you have asked her to move in with you? Or is that a conversation that you both have imaginarily had many times?

    i mean, it’s just kinda gauche to tell a bunch of strangers on the internet that you’re contemplating a big step like a move-in without telling your imaginary girlfriend first.

  58. Steele, you said before that you were an “executive.” So why do you have a supervisor? Could you tell us what your job title is?

  59. @captainbathrobe, i’ll save cookies for everyone with here who has a life when i bake some later on for me and my hubs-band.

    i’m gonna need a lot more cookies.

  60. Nice catch, David, but calling out Steele’s lies is MISANDRY!

  61. Varpole: Pecunium, you have just provided a perfect example as to why I don’t interact with you. I’ve explained my situation on multiple occasions. I am both.

    Both what? Sufficient in yourself? Not hardly. If you were, the need to try to prove to us how above it all you are wouldn’t happen. You don’t see us coming in to tell you what a douchecanoe yuo are, just because.

    No, we do it when you are being a douchecanoe.

    I suspect you don’t see the difference.

    If you mean you are a successful cog in a corporate machine, and a writer… well I have to admit, you do write.

    Any books in the pipeline? Any thing sent to publishers to be bought, or rejected?

    Because I’m published. I’ve also been a successful cog in a big machine. I did things which are still being used in that machine. If you are lucky, you’ll be able to do the same when you retire.

    Do you expect to be able to retire at 43? Because that’s how old I was when I started getting the pension checks.

    Meanwhile the Boobzers post on Boobzland.

    And you… are here trying to show us what a swell set-up you have. I mean a condo in the suburbs? Dude… condos are in the city, and houses are in the suburbs. If you were a hip sort of dude, you’d be talking lofts “downtown”, but no.
    You progress in life? OK bro, cool story.

    What have you got to show for it. Don’t tell us, ask yourself; because it doesn’t matter what we think. What matters is what’s actually going on in your mind. Your personal sense of accomplishment and achievement.

    My lovers (note the plural) think (note the present tense) that my posting here is a good thing.

    Of course it’s not all I do. I spent Tuesday at the District Court in Lower Manhattan, showing that I give a damn about civil liberties.

    I wrote it up. Feel free to take a look, it’s not a bad piece of writing, esp. for someone who isn’t actually a lawyer.

    You, were working on an efficiency project. I’m impressed.

    Excuse me? There seems to be a general consensus that I am a “loser” and I work a “dead-end job” and I am ultimately dissatisfied with my life. I am merely countering these erroneous beliefs.

    No, you aren’t. That you think you are, is why we say you are a crap-writer. You have no ear for subtext, can’t put together a moving piece of rhetoric and think repetition is going to make up for it.

    Show, don’t tell. That’s what makes for moving prose. You aren’t even good at telling (Ella is, “semi-attractive”, for fuck’s sake). It’s not that MRAs are losers because they have this job, or that job. They are losers because they center their life around the nonsense that they are oppressed. To ice the cake they hate on women, as the agents of this mythical oppression.

    Look at you, with the idiocy of your boss telling you women are preferred, but you are such a special snowflake that your massive testicles aren’t stopping your promotion.

    This is oppression? Where? Some teacher told you the truth (your writing talent is stunted), and you decided it was because you have external plumbing.

    Boo-hoo. Get over it. Be a grown up, and look at what you can do; and what you can’t. I’m a good runner. I’m not world class. Best I’ve ever done for two miles is 11:31. For the mile I never beat 4:55, and my best quarter was 54 seconds.

    I tried out for the Olympic Air Rifle Team in ’84. I had a slim chance (if I’d had a career day I’d have made it. I didn’t have a career day).

    Why? Because I’m not quite that good. I can hit anything I want to, but managing to keep the pellet in a 4mm circle from 33 feet away is more than I can manage (when in practice my consistent target coverage was about 8mm. over a string of 60 shots).

    My coaches told me I wasn’t going to make the cut. I tried anyway. They were right, and I knew that I wasn’t likely to make it. But I did what you couldn’t. I tried. I could have quit. I could then have blamed them all my life for not making the Olympics; just as you blame your teacher.

    Keep telling yourself it’s her fault you aren’t a writer. I know better, because I know writers. I know people who have file cabinets to hold the rejection letters; because they have thousands. They aren’t authors; because they’ve not been published, but they are writers.

    You’re a whiner.

  62. @Shadow, @red_locker: It is verbatim as it was told to me. I wasn’t there, I have it second-hand, but that’s pretty much as I heard it.

    Falconer, your shirt is brown:

    SCHNIFTER: Das ist immer alles Aulung und ist rauch mit and potzen Volkswagen und niemann stint und “Swell Pizza!!”

    CROWD: Sieg! Freud! Sieg! Freud! Sieg! Freud!

    — The Firesign Theatre, Don’t Crush That Dwarf, Hand Me The Pliers

    For real, though. Cool video, bro. I don’t think I’ve seen production values that high since middle school.

  63. Oh, I forgot – my supervisor (who is a woman; it has been explicitly stated to me that women, as a group, receive preference in promotions relative to men), mentioned somewhat obliquely that there may be a substantial raise in my future. I think I may move out to the suburbs, buy a condo. Maybe Ella and I will move in together. And I continue to progress in life.

    congratulations on continuing the life trajectory of dull unimpressive cog in the corporate machine?

    the world needs faceless bureaucrats drunk on the little bit of status they get in return for their utter subservience, i guess?

  64. Frankly, I find you Boobzers’ tiny attempts to tear me down vaguely amusing, more than anything else. Had a hard day posting on Boobzland?

    which is why you go into poutrage mode every time we do it, say lame ass stuff like ‘respect my station, and tell us over and over how much you totally dont care

    sure mikey. go back to work.

  65. @steele
    Excuseeeee me princess, but no one cares if you have a life or not. People are making fun of you because you seem to keep insisting about how great your life is randomly. People that have lives they like generally don’t need to brag about it to random strangers on the internet. Also you are very vague on what you do which makes people doubt you have a good job if you can’t even say what it is. XD

  66. Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III

    What I find interesting is his idea that everyone else is the same person – that in the commentariat is posting around the clock, then it must be because no commentator ever leaves their computer.

  67. i’m really glad he stopped posting here obsessively for hours on end, but i also find it hilarious that he wont admit it happened

  68. Thx for the excuse to post this, jumbofish:

  69. Mikey, you seem so enthusiastic about your awesome job and your awesome girlfriend and your awesome life.

    Now tell us again how damaging the gynocracy has been to your life?

    I think you’re losing sight of the big picture here.

    Do you want to convince us a)that you’re awesome and successful in every way, or b)that feminism has ruined your life?

    You can’t do both.

    (well you can’t do either at this point but, come on, you look ridiculous)

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