Men’s Rights Redditor: “I advocate the removal of judges, politicians, and other government agents who violate the Constitution by any means necessary.” [UPDATED]
Men’s Rights subreddit regular Demonspawn (remember him?) is back again with some deliberately vague but definitely threatening talk about judges and politicians:
Not a lot of “plausible deniability” here, though I am sure various MRAs will try to excuse this as not being what it obviously is: a threat of violence against judges, politicians and others who work for the government.
He’s done this before; I wrote about it here.
And while we’re on the topic of Demonspawn, here’s a little followup comment of his from the thread we discussed the other day. It’s a giant wall of text, I know, but it contains gems like: “When women mouth off to men and get their faces bashed in, they’ll know equality.” At least this comment of his got as many downvotes as upvotes.
I’m banned from the Men’s Rights subreddit, of course, but Demonspawn, despite repeatedly violating the subreddit’s rules about posting comments advocating violence, continues to post away. See his comment history for more lovely thoughts on, among other things, why women are parasites who don’t deserve the vote.
Posted on August 5, 2012, in antifeminism, evil women, misogyny, MRA, reddit, terrorism, threats, woman's suffrage, your time will come. Bookmark the permalink. 680 Comments.
@Ugh – 3.8 per 100K must be the ANNUAL rate, with total deaths of 5.5K per annum in a nation of 300,000,000. Learn to do maths. Moron.
Look there are ways to counter Joe’s bullshit, I’m thinking that “insignificant number” is not one of them, since I’m not prepared to concede that the number of people that die due to lack of reproduction rights is “insignificant”.
His whole men vs. women angle with the work related deaths is the problem.
per annum means annual, duder
@Sharculese – wtf is vdare?
@Myoo – “The USA has over 300.000.000 people, dude. In comparison to that 5.500 deaths are insignificant. Heck, over 30.000 people die in traffic accidents every year, that’s nearly 6 times the number of workplace deaths.”
But you care about women who are murdered in DV, right? Even though they are killed at a much, much lower rate. Those deaths matter to you don’t they, because they are women.
Whereas deaths at work (almost all men) and the vast majority of murder victims (mostly men) – you don’t give a fuck do you?
It’s not the numbers that you think are “insignificant” it’s the sex of the people who are killed that you think is business as usual.
@Joe fair enough, my bad.
@Joe
Name one feminist, just one, anywhere in the world, who has advocated AGAINST workplace safety and gender equality in dangerous professions.
Did he start with the anti-Semitism yet? Or did I miss that in the comments before the meltdown started?
Relative to his rhetoric, it is. I’m to pretend all men deserve credit for the ‘sacrifice’ of less than .01%? It’s like a modern day mammoth.
The number of people who die is not that high. Much like workplace injury, death is not the standard Bad Ending to this story
@Joe
Also, there’s a difference between people dying because they’re being murdered and dying because they chose to be truck drivers., in the same way that alcohol consumption is not considered to be a war.
Well when the CIA/KGB/UNCLE conspiracy crashes the economy through war with Iran (who are not in on the conspiracy, I guess?) then that’ll be great news for men! Less employment = fewer workplace deaths! Expensive oil + less driving to/from work = fewer traffic accidents!
And who wanted fewer traffic accidents? That kid from the Gammera movie, that;s who The whole thing is has flying turtle plot written all over it!!!1!
Wake up sheeple!
-UGH
Joe, do not ignore this. If you’re going to continue right now to post on and on, and have nowhere else to be, answer this. Don’t just keep answering the posts where it’s easy to be argumentative.
I asked about profits, and UGH is asking this question. Both of those questions speak directly to proving or disproving your points.
@Bodsworth
But, don’t you know, SovietAgencyCo is run by feminists, and feminists want NOTHING MORE than for men to monopolize all trades, driving work, and military service!
@ Ugh NO! That;s what the giant turtles WANT you to think!
@indiffentsky
Of course Joe will ignore it, he’s a coward.
Rutee, I see your point. When arguing for reproductive rights, the main point is not death. It’s still significant to me.
Also the sacrifice of these men is for other greedy men, that’s my main beef.
Sir Bodsworth,
Good sir, if you have any way of getting me an “in” with UNCLE I will do your taxes for life. I have always wanted to be an agent of the United Network Command for Law Enforcement!
Best regards,
drst
(UNCLE ruling the world would be fucking awesome.)
@indifferentsky
The numbers are insignificant when compared to the total population, that doesn’t mean I think it’s okay for people to die. I just think the focus on workplace deaths is a smokescreen. The number of people that suffer workplace accidents in total is far higher than the number of people who die as a result.
I am all for safety measures to prevent workplace accidents and proper regulations to ensure that companies actually institute those measures. Plus, Joe is being extremely disingenuous by bringing up workplace accidents when he has stated opposition to parental leave because it’s “not that important”.
@ drst – Mr Waverley will be in touch.
D1d 1 m155 th3 m3ltd0wn 0f J03? (Shhhh, I don’t want the NSA to read that.)
@cloudiah
No, you fool, you have to spell it N5A. You’ve doomed us all!
@Myoo – you’re LYING.
You can’t blockquote me saying that re. leave, because I didn’t say it.
*Snoopy dance*
Ahem. I mean, “I eagerly await contact. I have my pen communicator ready.”
Joe, I forgot to mention that I don’t really care what the government does because I’m the founder, president, and only member of the Illuminati, I control them anyway.
Oh, wow, we’ve got Joe as the turd in this thread’s punchbowl, and the incel whiner in the other. What the fuck is going on tonight?
@aworldanonymous:
Oh, is that what you think? You have no idea how deep the rabbit hole goes, my friend.
I wish I had the imagination to believe that the Soviets, CIA and bankers were part of a feminist conspiracy to rule the world.
On second thought, I don’t actually want my imagination to be like that.
@Joe
That wasn’t a blockquote but whatever, I get what you mean, I shouldn’t have used quote marks, because you didn’t say that exactly. What you said was:
Which to me looks a lot like an indication that you don’t think parental leave is important. The bit in quotation marks was meant to be a paraphrase.
Also, Joe? You’re entire argument re: workplace fatalities seems to rest on a fallacy, namely that people cannot care about more than one thing simultaneously. Which is completely untrue.
I live in West Virginia. I would bet folding money I and my neighbors have thought far more about workplace injuries and deaths than you have.
I also care about the 6 people murdered in Wisconsin today for the crime of being brown and not Christian in America. Btw, most if not all the victims were male, including the police officer who was shot.
I care about women in Arizona who will be forced to carry a dead fetus and possibly die themselves if the new anti-abortion law there goes into effect.
I care about a lot of things. Those are 3 of them. That I give voice to concern about one of them at a given moment is not proof I care only about that issue. Your argument is invalid.
Blast it. “Your” not “you’re”
*sigh*
I can’t believe people kept trying to debate this guy after the first time he mentioned Libertarian Politician/Cult Leader Who Cannot Be Named. That’s the universal Internet sign to disengage.
I vote we all pick Roller Derby names for ourselves instead.
I am Maud Gonner. Anyone is welcome to use my runner-up ideas, Grace Chopper and Judy Boom.
To joe the idiot: We just had a safety stand down today at my job at a mine site. My department has had enough worrisome incidents that my boss and I stopped the entire operation to have a talk with everyone about current safety. I know most big companies have similar policies too. We investigate and report everything including near misses to find out if there is a way to prevent it from happening again. No one (in developed nations that is… Sadly it should be globally) is being treated as being disposable. There are government regulations that protect the lives and well being of workers. There is recourse if you are hurt on the Job… But wait isn’t joe somehow against the government interfering with his freedomz or something… All I know is I can tell this idiot right now we take the safety of our workers exremely seriously and try to eliminate preventable accidents. Yes, some people have more dangerous jobs than others. Typically the guys doing the dangerous things in my line of work do get compensated for it. A fairly new miner/ driller/ equipment operator can typically bring home a larger paycheck than I do and I went to school and I run part of the show. So I really don’t see this men working dangerous jobs for little compensation trope in my experience. Again I refer only to north America because that’s my experience. And I’m pretty sure joe is just speaking about developed nations anyway as I don’t see him as the type to give a frack about the men and women who put their lives on the line daily in courties which lack our stable government and regulations.
My roller derby name: Cloudiah DaButcher
@Molly Moon
Oh no no, I didn’t say it ends at me, there’s governments, then me, then the lizards (who are actually quite nice when you get to know them), then the mole people, then there’s the nameless man, and then The Doctor.
Also my Roller Derby name is The Mysterious Stranger, because I have no capacity for creativity.
http://io9.com/5932015/eyes.nasa.gov
Also Curiosity is landing on mars, completely irrelevant but too cool not to share.
Myoo, yes! I get you. It’s Joe that is arguing that people are disrespecting this sacrifice.
The numbers are a decent answer to his griping that men are under appreciated for their sacrifice. I started veering off into Joe land based on a couple of posts, so I clarified.
Also my posts didn’t acknowledge the reality that Bad-dog is talking about here. There is definitely pain staking efforts made to reduce accidents in the Western world. This is due to insurance costs, no doubt. Yes, they are heavily compensated. With the proper insurance coverage the family should be set up for life. And of course, it’s still sad and tragic.
Joe making this a men vs. women dealio is fail.
And men typically do run things. Leave it to an MRA to turn a feminist point on its head and claim that men are heroes for doing so. Women can be “heros” too by this criteria. It’s hard for them to get in the male dominated fields.
@aworldanon
I’m waiting for it to blow up like the last one did over failure to convert figures into metric.
That was a whole lot of money there, -Kaboom!
Curiosity is kind of supercool, because SPACE.
Is that really why the last one blew up? Oof.
I’m kind of hopeful for this one, Every step towards space colonization is a step in a direction I like a lot.
@Joe- I don’t think that these numbers are particularly high or are a cause of concern in a 300m population. Or are the 2800 females who die per year from cervical cancer which is insignificant especially since they contract the disease after menopause and have already lived their lives.
this is the mars probe that crashed in 1999 due to a conversion error: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Climate_Orbiter
I care about women in Arizona who will be forced to carry a dead fetus and possibly die themselves if the new anti-abortion law there goes into effect.
I find this hard to believe. She can just go to any hospital for some medical emergency like that. Something like this could never be included in some law You’re being overdramatic and hysterical.
It’s hard for them to get in the male dominated fields.
I’m all for females having the same jobs as men because it will prove that no matter what the salary that few females will do these jobs.
It’s the same reason that I’m for homoseual marriage. You’ll discover that there are fewer gays around that the media leads you to believe and even fewer who want to get married.
Uh, well, Mr. Homophobe, I’m glad to have your support.
BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
let me match your anecdata with mine, i can think off the top of my head of 5 of my close friends who are on the LGBTI spectrum (is that OK to say?). of them, 3 are in committed, long term relationships and luckily, as they live in the UK they can at the very least have a civil partnership. 2 have already done so.
I find it absurd that you would waste time on this demonsperm guy. For all you know he may be some 15yo posting from his “headquarters” in mama’s basement.
Um… so might you?
And look what you just wasted on us.
Ms Cliff, I was just pointing out how stupid it is.
Besides, I think you should worry about the people who say nothing like that redhead who shot up a theatre not some moron having fantasies on the internet.
I’m very concerned that you took the time to post this comment when we don’t yet have a cure for cancer. Why are you worried about a blog having bad priorities when people have cancer!
DO THE MOST IMPORTANT THING AT ALL TIMES! CHOP CHOP!
As I said I was just taking notice of what some people believe is important.
You can’t be above all the sheeple who post here if you keep posting here.
Not only are they around, not only are they married, but they are GOING ON FAMILY VACATIONS! 8O WHAT IS THE WORLD COMING TO?
It doesn’t matter if gays are married because 99% of the maried people will be normal male/female marriages. They’ll just think of gay marriage as the Odd Couple.
Can’t stop looking at that picture, it is just so damn cute. Dammit, I want to go on vacation with Neil Patrick Harris and Elton John!
So you really believe that 60+ Elton John and his wife are a good example of a gay couple? Personally I don’t care what he does and it’s probably good that the kid he adopted has a home rather than living in an orphanage or being shuttled around various homes. And at least he had the good sense to get a kid that somewhat resembled him and not some African kid that these white actresses go around adopting as some sort of status symbol to show off.
Katz-yes I agree. It’s good to see men with their kids even if it’s only their adopted kids.
This concern troll isn’t anything like as funny as the one who said that we shouldn’t mock MRAs because they might be mentally ill and mocking the mentally ill isn’t cool.
Now that was concern trolling.
You need to up your game, Mr. Chipps.
I thought that she was a lesbian but apparently not. It seems that she married Harpo Marx’s grandson.
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/06/cynthia-nixon-wife-christine-marinoni-photos-new-york
Weathrby-why is it that all of you people here believe that transsexuals are mentally ill?
So what do you think about interracial marriage?
/hadtoask
“why is it that all of you people here believe that transsexuals are mentally ill?”
I haven’t followed the discussion, but wut?
Boring new troll Mr. Chipps has been banned for being a boring old banned troll.
And here I was thinking that taking maternity leave was a pretty major reason why females end up earning less over the course of their carreer…
David: Which one?
For Kakanian
http://hoydenabouttown.com/20120806.12129/terminology-101-females-vs-women/
kats, it was Pell/Jane/Johnson, now the law firm of Pell, Jane, Johnson and Chipps.
I know what you’re doing here David, but it is not clear to me whether you regard your position as a moral one or an expedient one. Do you feel that you have the moral high ground, or are you just afraid of what’s happening and are doing your bit to try to contain it? I’m not making a judgement here… I’m genuinely curious.
To understand what I’m getting at, watch the following clip through to the end:
There was a time, you know, when the American founding fathers held the moral high ground. Just sayin’. How do you reconcile these things with what the founding fathers intended? Or have they simply become irrelevant in Liberal America?