Men’s Rights Redditor: “I advocate the removal of judges, politicians, and other government agents who violate the Constitution by any means necessary.” [UPDATED]
Men’s Rights subreddit regular Demonspawn (remember him?) is back again with some deliberately vague but definitely threatening talk about judges and politicians:
Not a lot of “plausible deniability” here, though I am sure various MRAs will try to excuse this as not being what it obviously is: a threat of violence against judges, politicians and others who work for the government.
He’s done this before; I wrote about it here.
And while we’re on the topic of Demonspawn, here’s a little followup comment of his from the thread we discussed the other day. It’s a giant wall of text, I know, but it contains gems like: “When women mouth off to men and get their faces bashed in, they’ll know equality.” At least this comment of his got as many downvotes as upvotes.
I’m banned from the Men’s Rights subreddit, of course, but Demonspawn, despite repeatedly violating the subreddit’s rules about posting comments advocating violence, continues to post away. See his comment history for more lovely thoughts on, among other things, why women are parasites who don’t deserve the vote.
Posted on August 5, 2012, in antifeminism, evil women, misogyny, MRA, reddit, terrorism, threats, woman's suffrage, your time will come. Bookmark the permalink. 680 Comments.
‘im an idiot conspiracy theorist’ isn’t actually an answer to anything i said, dummy
@Molly Moon
“There’s the problem that women might not want to marry someone who can’t control himself when he’s around a woman wearing clothes, since she’d have to be around him while wearing clothes sometimes.”
The problem isn’t men, it’s women being unable to control their sexuality. There’s only one reason women dress and act that way. Go watch the video again. Tell me the difference between the way every man is dressed and the way that woman is dressed. She dressed like that to attract sexual attention from men. She is unwilling to control her sexuality. Every society it’s always the same. Men try to civilize women but they always fail.
@Sharculese – why do you fear the words? :p
(Apologies if you actually suffer from dyslexia.)
“Women granted inherent value from society” – riiight, so society is only men. Half the human race doesn’t actually get a guernsey on being part of society. Oh, wait, I forgot, women aren’t human, are we? Just some sort of weird animal that men get to fuck without actually thinking they’re committing bestiality.
Um, Joe, there’s not a ton of value in addressing your posts if you’re just going to address them to “whoever.” FYI.
In other news, hey NWO! Sometimes I see men in the street and I find them sexually attractive! Sometimes particular outfits on men turn me on more than other outfits on men! My sexuality doesn’t work the way you tell me it does! Please explain this discrepancy kthx.
yeah, the only reason i don’t wannna read a million poorly chosen words about how half-assed terrorism advocacy is kind of sort of understandable is because i fear them
it could be because they were written by a boring, long-winded dimwit
*couldnt be
@Sharculese – I’m sorry, do you live under a rock? Have you somehow missed out on the biggest drought since the 1930s “dustbowl” that is currently afflicting the US? Corn prices are already climbing and will continue to do so.
Farmers are slaughtering their herds because they can’t afford the feed (so meat prices will drop temporarily and then soar).
The EU has just kicked in an embargo on Iranian oil (so it will now be buying all its oil from elsewhere on the world market, increasing demand). There’s this little thing called a “civil war” happening right now in Syria, which tends, y’know to crimp oil supplies from that country, raising prices.
Iran has gone on record that it is ready and able to block the Gulf of Hormuz (look it up) and the US is deploying drone subs in an attempt to countermand that. That’s the brink of war, right there.
NONE of this^ is “theory”, “conspiracy” or otherwise, it’s called the NEWS. Y’know food supply, economics, politics, war….
Oh and by the way, using “conspiracy theory” as preprogrammed dismissal of anything that contradicts your personal “frame”, reveals you to be someone who lets the mass media do your thinking for you.
Society will crumble! Civilization will burn! And then maybe we’ll see about this “paid maternity leave” nonsense.
Shorter First Joe: I have random!!! Why are you ignoring meeee???
@Kittehwotsit – What? Do you have a different dictionary to everyone else?
Society includes men and women (and children too). Obviously.
By far the vast majority of both men and women, who comprise society – value women above men.
A recent highlight of this were comments I read from various women about the Aurora fellas who died protecting those they loved (RIP fellas, and respect).
The recurring memes were:
– “They were ‘real’ men'”
i.e. men who do not make such a human sacrifice of themselves are not “real” or not “men” = defining men by their utility – to women.
(A big part of being a Men’s Righter / MGTOW / Free Range is a refusal to be defined by our utility to other people, including women.)
– “Every girl deserves a man like that”
Wow! Entitlement much?
Reminds me of that crunk fem blogger.
The sacrifice of a human life should NEVER be EXPECTED by anyone, of anyone.
Yet it IS expected of men, almost universally…
And when someone (male or female) makes such a sacrifice, giving the gift of their life so another might live, the correct response is simple RESPECT & GRATITUDE.
Not the horrible outpourings of bullshit coming from all angles.
– The twitterer who wondered if the gfs “were worth it”. Err. Not your call dickhead. Those fellas made that call.
– The fem writer who bemoaned the emphasis on the 3 guys heroism in the news, which she felt was taking shine from those women who had shown bravery and survived.
– Hugo “Attempted Murderer of his gf” Asshole Schwyzer who reckons that all men owe this human sacrifice to all women everywhere, because, wait for it: the generations of women gone past who died in childbirth… No really. You could not make this shit up.
Joe, cupcake, you’re forgetting that the people in charge of the world aren’t actually stupid, while things may look bad, that’s only really due to increased exposure to world events. In reality it’s still pretty much the best time ever to be a human, but I’ll let you have your cynicism, you seem to be having fun with it.
Man, are we playing “Joe’s factual inaccuracies” again?
Here’s what I’ve got from his posts so far:
Syrian civil war affecting global oil prices, when Syria is not and has never been a major oil exporter.
“Worst Drought since the dust bowl.” Nope, 1954 and 1988 had more impact on food prices.
“Demonspawn is saying that he expects women’s experience of life to become a lot more like men’s experience of life.” False. He’s saying that he thinks people should violently remove political officials with whom he disagrees.
But go on, Joe. Tell us all about how feminism is going to lead to the conquest of the U.S. by the booming Arab-speaking Iranian population. Or better yet, link some more Glenn Bleck videos! That’ll convince us!
@SirFlippantLollzalot – Yeah, by all means, don’t pay attention to the world around you. Maybe you’ll be able to burn sarcasm on the hearth, to cook up a big old helping of glib dismissal for dinner, when there’s no food in the shops & the leccy’s on the blink.
Perhaps your sardonic wit will repel the hungry plebs, hell it worked for Marie Antoinette…. Oh, wait…
World War III is coming! Also, someone on twitter said something questionable.
Anecdotal evidence: it’s the conspiracy theorist version of actual evidence.
Also, has it occurred to you that the reason people even still HAVE a concept of what a “real man” is, is because we don’t live in a feminist society? Obviously, if we accepted that gender roles are a social construct, we wouldn’t have this kind of sentiment.
@The First Joe
“Oh and by the way, using “conspiracy theory” as preprogrammed dismissal of anything that contradicts your personal “frame”, reveals you to be someone who lets the mass media do your thinking for you.”
Don’t burst their bubble, Joe. The tell-a-vision told them so. They all believe themselves to be the great minds of the ages. Wikipedia told them about the Flynn effect and they are true believers in their own genius. They looked it up. When you can type in, “What is X” on a computer and you’re told what to think, they consider that critical thinking.
Says the man who thinks that feminism is a Soviet/CIA/banker plot to destroy the West. Or who thinks China is experiencing a population boom, or that the language of business in India is Hindi.
@Wisteria (previous page)
Well, I do know that NWO saw cleavage when there was none, and saw seductive hip waggling in a woman trying to walk quickly away from people who were harassing her.
I honestly think he’s projecting this whole “men can’t control themselves in the midst of all this scandelous sexy” hardcore. He literally can’t look at a woman and not see sexual suggestion in every move. If a woman farted in front of him, he’d probably think that it was a sexy sexy fart designed to entrap him.
Either that, or he doesn’t interact or see woman at all, and he just sits holed-up wherever he is and fantasizes about the myriad of ways in which women must be trying to get him to have a boner… Even worse, both could be true as he only watches the disney channel for some reason.
So, First Joe, how exactly do wars in other countries have anything to do with paid parental leave being a good or bad idea? I fail to see the connection.
@Bodsworth
I think Joe’s exact line of reasoning is “WWIII is coming! Ergo, we lend a hand to our new oppressive Soviet CIA masters by taking rights away from half the population.
General survivalist crankery. Meh.
Hint: Food is not going to be a problem for developed nations, it’s water…
Which is why military service was only compulsory for European nobility for centuries. It’s why there’s totally a universal draft, right now, throughout the West as a whole. It’s why the only classes compelled to fight in the ottoman empire or mameluk egypt were the Janissary or the mameluks.
It’s why women are never compelled to fight in Africa. It’s why the viking raiders were only dudes.
After claiming (contra reality, granted) that this expectation is levelled at all men, and that this was as good as sacrificing your life, one might question whether this isn’t even the littlest bit self serving…
Hint: This sort of bullshit is part of why the ability to serve in the military is a class benefit of being male.
As I said. You claim we’re to respect everyone who takes risks, and then complain when people demand respect for the risks women take. FOAD, shallow little peon.
You’re the one who claimed sacrifices of one’s life shoud be double-plus-respected, dude…
Shorter NWO “EVERYTHING MUST BE PURE AND HOLY, ALL WHO OPPOSE PURITY MUST BE BURNED”
Dude, I know you’re, like, super stupid, but when you claim that everyone expects men to sacrifice themselves for others and then provide evidence disproving that claim only a few sentences later, it makes you look extra-strength clueless.
(Obviously, assholes wondering whether the women saved were “worth it” are terrible fucking people, but it’s not because of your made-up male persecution fantasy, it’s because they’re goddamn misogynists.)
@Ugh – I was referring to Demonspawns second post, not his first. I’m not touching that first one with a bargepole.
So, 1954 and 1988 were worse food price wise than the 30s? Ok, I stand corrected on that.
Guess what? That little nit-pick of yours won’t make it fucking rain, and it won’t bring down food prices over the tail end of 2012 either.
Food prices already inflated by big merchant banks like Goldman Sachs muscling their way into the food futures market (which has already priced poor folks in wrecked places like Haiti out of the market)
Y’see your problem is your so DESPERATELY looking for a nit-picking point in every sentence that you ignore the wider picture. You’re wanking in Happy Happy LaLa Land.
Amnesia said: So, First Joe, how exactly do wars in other countries have anything to do with paid parental leave being a good or bad idea? I fail to see the connection.
It’s about priorities! When we stop having wars we can worry about women’s rights all we want, but until then we have to take care of the IMPORTANT stuff.
@Joe I’m probably getting ninja’d as I write, but Syria is not a major exporter of oil. There are plenty of reasons to resolve the conflict there ASAP, but oil ain’t one of them.
Joe, why are you here, if there’s supposed to be a food shortage and inevitable collapse of society as soon as you’re implying, why aren’t you out stockpiling food and guns, and taking survival courses in preparation?
@Joe
The wider picture is made up of actual facts. So, when the only facts you put in your posts are wrong, you don’t have a leg to stand on.
You blame me for noting how many lies you believe about the world, but you should be blaming the people telling you those lies. After our last discussion, did you bother to write to the bloggers who told you that Iran and China were in population booms to complain that they lied to you?
Are you going to write to call out whoever told you that Syria is a major oil exporter?
You take absolutely everything these people say on faith, when twenty seconds on Google shows they have no idea what they’re talking about when it comes to even the simplest facts.
@Joe
Your worldview isn’t even logically consistent. You have said that feminism is a deep-level Soviet plot, a CIA conspiracy and a banker scam. You realize that all these people have different and conflicting agendas, right?
What do you think the policy statements of Soviet-CIA-banker meetings even look like?
Is Chicken Little really complaining that in addition to pointing out that Canis Majora, Alpha Tucanae, etc, haven’t fallen, the sky as a whole is not falling in aggregate?
@Rutee – “Hint: Food is not going to be a problem for developed nations, it’s water…”
Hint: just because I say “X will be a problem” does not imply “X is the only problem”
Also – what part of DROUGHT do you not understand? Idiot.
“Which is why military service was only compulsory for European nobility for centuries.”
Total bullshit. History fail. Seriously, medieval armies were not made up solely of knights in armour, you ignoramous.
“It’s why there’s totally a universal draft, right now, throughout the West as a whole.”
Also irrelevant. Human sacrifice by men is expected in civilian life too. See deaths in DDD jobs. See, better keep working or go to jail, babydaddy.
“Hint: This sort of bullshit is part of why the ability to serve in the military is a class benefit of being male.”
1) Women can serve in almost all Western militaries now.
2) Yes, because killing and being killed is a “benefit”. Moron.
“As I said. You claim we’re to respect everyone who takes risks, and then complain when people demand respect for the risks women take. FOAD, shallow little peon.”
There’s a time and a fucking place. And that time and place is not when those who have sacrificed their lives ARE BARELY COLD IN THE GROUND.
“”– Hugo “Attempted Murderer of his gf” Asshole Schwyzer who reckons that all men owe this human sacrifice to all women everywhere, because, wait for it: the generations of women gone past who died in childbirth… No really. You could not make this shit up.”
You’re the one who claimed sacrifices of one’s life shoud be double-plus-respected, dude…”
“Respect” does not = owing the human sacrifice of your singular life, to living people. Dumbass.
The First Joe.
That stuff about the drought is true enough. But case in point, my fiancee works in a place where recently a woman left to go to a job with paid maternity leave.
Nobody died.
The End.
@ Ugh “What do you think the policy statements of Soviet-CIA-banker meetings even look like?”
SovBankAgencyCo is a goal focused, team driven revolutionary organisation that puts the prolotariat first by putting [redacted] first. Our glorious five year plan has been synergised by leveraging the [redacted] of the People. Anticipating a 2% growth rate in the coming Fiscal Year Zero, our ongoing long term strategic goals have [redacted] the [redacted] whereby [redacted] backsliding Menshevik revisionist load defaults will [redacted] pasting down the edge of the sailor’s uniform, until the word “Maudling” is almost completely obscured.
I think the one thing that SovBankAgencyCo’s employees can agree on is that we’re all Marie Antoinettes wasting our chances to stop them by factchecking their insurmountable foe, The First Joe.
If only women had fewer rights, Joe would be able to defeat them. SovBankAgencyCo controls all information in the world, except the websites that Joe reads.
@Molly Moon – ”
Amnesia said: So, First Joe, how exactly do wars in other countries have anything to do with paid parental leave being a good or bad idea? I fail to see the connection.
It’s about priorities! When we stop having wars we can worry about women’s rights all we want, but until then we have to take care of the IMPORTANT stuff.”
It’s not about good or bad. It’s about MONEY. Social benefits cost. The West is BANKRUPT.
If the West hadn’t pissed away $trillions on invading other peoples countries, if the West hadn’t broken the Unions and if the West hadn’t enabled globalisation to leech actual productive industry away – there MIGHT have been money for a balanced social/health/welfare system. That’s not what happened.
The West has basically squandered it’s resources on murdering lots of far away brown people. The only politician in the US who stands for peace is consistently demonised as a crank and a nutcase by the masss media. And your current POTUS who conducts drone assassinations holds a Nobel fucking Peace Prize!! It’s fucking bullshit!
Also, SovBankAgencyCo and their servants, the feminists, are oppressing men by keeping women out of the military and dangerous occupations.
Levies were primarily volunteers who joined to get extra income for lean seasons, in Europe. The job was voluntary, and as non-nobles were soldiers primarily for their own benefit, the ‘expectation’ to join was considerably less.
What was that about a history fail, Chicken Little?
The majority of workplace deaths are car crashes…
That’s a thing nowhere, Chicken Little. You can only go to jail for not actually telling the court you’re not making money, which you’re given plenty of time to actually, you know, do.
In limited support roles that aren’t given the full credit men are, even if those men enlist and end up in the same support roles…
I wasn’t aware ‘soldier’ was a job with 100% mortality rate…
You know who dies in greater numbers? Civvies. Especially in our current wars, but historically as well.
So when is it, since we’re talking about people who risked their lives? Again, you’re making my point for me.
What he said is way closer to what you said than what any of us are saying.
I’m slightly confused on the facts of life. Women have babies completely independent of men. In the majority of cases pregnancy just happens randomly with no male involvement. When a man is involved then the baby belongs to him then the woman shouldn’t be involved. Is this about right?
Words mean things. In the case of bankrupt, it means a very specific thing, which does not apply to any Western country.
This is not the mopst in debt, as a percentage of GDP, that any Western country has ever seen.
*lean seasons or disasters, such as the pack animals all dying, too many tools breaking, etc. And women had to march with those armies, and were also at considerable risk of violent death during those campaigns. It’s kind of laughable how little you know, and you expect to get us on anything.
Yeah, if only we had a hardcore libertarian in office, there would be plenty of gold to pay for all those extensive social welfare programs libertarians love so much!
We’re talking about ‘bring back the gold standard’, ‘our forefathers dealt with pirates through letters of marque’ Ron Paul? That’s because he is a crank and a nutcase. But he’s also not the only politician who stands for peace…
Hey, Joe! There’s an ‘incel’ guy on another thread, currently calling for the creation of a new federal agency! Why not go call him out?
http://manboobz.com/2012/08/02/norwegian-mens-rights-blogger-eivind-berge-released-from-jail-court-rules-that-threats-on-the-internet-do-not-count-as-incitement/#comments
I apologize in advance for this.
Free Range Men
NWO’s SOULMATES:
http://www.deredactie.be/cm/vrtnieuws.english/news/120803_Sharia_Peeters
Sharia4Belgium
@aworldanonoymous – The Assholes In Charge are certainly intelligent, they do not have your best interests at heart. This is because, an awful lot of them are in fact sociopaths, and they regard you and me as “useless eaters” (Kissinger). Being a sociopath is a huge advantage in climbing to the top of the heap see Jon Ronson’s cracking book “The Psychopath Test”.
@Ugh – Ugh. You’re so busy scrapbooking your pathetic little nit-picks to paper over the cracks in your worldview, it’s pathetic.
And do stop trying to “pocket summarise” what I’ve said, you’re just LYING.
I was VERY specific about what the C1As involvements in feminism have been (afaik, there could be more more I am unaware of) and I provided proofs with evidence. Likewise I provided proof of Rockefeller foundation involvement in feminism.
etc. etc.
Apparently you want me to give you a grand theory of WHY Interested Party X chose to throw a load of $$$ feminism’s way. Fuck no. All I have to do is demonstrate is that they did so. It is reasonable to asume that like all investors they expect(ed) to profit from doing so – i.e. their investment tells us that feminism* serves the self-interests of those parties.
(*knowingly or not)
@Ugh – And I’ve never argued anywhere that women should have “fewer rights.” Again, you’re LYING.
@indifferentsky – Well, if everything is swimmingly lovely in your corner of the world, it must be the same everywhere, right? And it will never, ever change, right? / sarcasm
You might want to look up “solipsism”
thanks for reminding us why you’re not to be taken seriously, you champ
Joe, are you sure about that, I’m pretty sure the government I elect into power isn’t a part of some massive conspiracy to keep themselves in power. Also sociopaths would get ahead in society plenty, if there weren’t so much media out there dedicated to calling them out for what they are, targeting them as dangerous individuals, etc. etc. How’s that tinfoil hat fitting for ya buddy?
Is there a particular reason that Joe refers to the CIA as the C1A?
@Rutee – Wow. You’re wrong about basically everything. Way to go, moron.
WAAAAAAAAAH, why does everyone laugh at me when i say feminism is a conspiracy by eeevvilll people for the sake of being evil WAAAAAAH
@Rutee – look up “serf”. Also “pressgang”. Also the role of the English longbowman, and royal edicts mandating archery practice.
You: parroting facts that are demonstratably false.
Me: Pointing out that they are false.
You: Angry at me for saying that false things are false.
I just want you to think about that for awhile. If you really want to pay attention to the world around you, why are you upset when you learn more about it?
Steinem at one point worked for the CIA. So did Julia Child; it doesn’t prove that French Cooking was a CIA plot.
The Rockefeller foundation is not owned or poerator by any bank or bank employee.
You also said that feminism was a Soviet plot, for which you haven’t even tried to offer evidence.
By that logic, all conspiracy theory websites and radio shows are also banker plots. You know who owns all those GOLD WHOLESALERS that advertise on Coast to Coast, right?
BAAAAAAAWW
why are people stupid jerks who point out the things my white whine idol actually believes
BAAAWWWW
Your exact argument was that the West will be destroyed because women have reproductive rights and thus have fewer children.
because he’s a self-important dipshit who desperately wants to be a victim
Joe. Guy on other thread. Advocating for government takeover of dating agency industry,
Actual person, explicitly arguing in favour of increasing the size and expense of government.
Why are you not taking him on?
Translation:
“But I won’t actually bother to explain why it is that you’re wrong. Because that would mean that I’d have to provide evidence for my claims. And that would require me actually having evidence, which I don’t. So instead of actually giving the reasons for why I think you are wrong, I’m just going to call you a moron instead, which will completely distract you all from the fact that I don’t actually have any evidence.This will act as a clear demonstration of my superior intellect.”
@Sharculese – I wouldn’t know, because I haven’t said that. Maybe you need new glasses?
And you don’t take me seriously, despite evidence presented (and not from MRA sites, but mainstream stuff) because it would just BURST your little belief bubble and that’s way too frightening for you to deal with.
He thinks the evil Illuminati conspirators who run the world are searching the internet for anyone who says “CIA” in order to better oppress those people, but despite being clever enough to secretly run the whole world, they are not clever enough to realize that a 1 kinda looks like an I, and thus he has brilliantly foiled their evil schemes.
I wish I were joking.
bedwetting bircher baby bust boffo bawls, bores billions
The NSA couls never see through such a clever ruse as spelling CIA as C1A! It would have to take some kind of genius to crack that code!
@SirStupidName – because it won’t ever happen?
Because I struggle really hard to take anyone seriously who uses the term “incel”?
BAAAAAWWWW
why won’t the sheeple bow down before my poorly documented self-important nonsense
WAAAAAAAAHHHHH
BAAAAAAAWWWWWWW
But everyone else here is typing CIA instead of C1A! So won’t the CIA still find you anyway, Joe, despite your C1A trick?
Oh noes!
protip joey
huffily demanding stuff isnt the same as proving it