Roosh V has a little trouble with the concept of “no.” [TW: Rape Apologia]

Recently, a nameless commenter here asked “What exactly is “rapey” about Pick Up Artistry?” The post below should help to answer that question.

Hey, fellas! Say you’ve applied some state of the art Pickup Artistry on some HB 10 (“hot babe 10”) and you’re about to add another notch to your “girls I’ve totally had sex with” belt – and she has the gall to tell you “no.” Should you be worried?

Pickup artist Roosh Valizedah (whom we were talking about just yesterday) says, er, no. Apparently “no” (when the word is uttered by a girl you are groping) is actually a variant of “yes.” Who knew?

While every feminist likes to repeat the phrase “No means no,” it depends on context. Here’s a guide:

“No” when you try to take off her jeans or shirt means… “You need to turn me on a lot more.”

“No” when you try to take off her bra means… “Try again in five minutes.”

“No” when you try to take off her panties means… “Don’t give up now!”

I find the only word that means no is “stop.” If you hear that word then she’ll be asking you to leave soon after.

So just filter out everything she says other than the word “stop” and you’ll be fine. Oh, and if she actually starts punching you, that’s also a clue that she doesn’t want to have sex with you.

For every rape accusation I’d want to know at what stage of undress the girl was at before the supposed rape happened. If she was completely naked until saying no, and got there voluntarily, then I’d be reluctant to charge the man with rape unless there were signs of violence.

Gals need to remember, Roosh explains, that once a man gets a boner he’s pretty much helpless.  His innate biological drives require that he either have sex with you (if you’re willing) or rape you (if you are unwilling and remember to say “stop” as well as “no”).

Women need to understand that men aren’t robots who can suddenly stop at the drop of a dime with all that testosterone pumping through their system. Therefore it would be prudent for them not to enter situations where the average man can’t stop due to his innate weaknesses as an animal whose entire existence depends on him successfully mating.

If it gets to that point, Roosh advises the ladies,  you should just try to enjoy the rape as best you can – like it’s some sort of carnival ride.

Every roller coaster has a point while chugging up that first hill where’s there’s no turning back and you just need to hang on for the ride. In other words, don’t let a man on your bed unless you’re trying to get it.

So, In Roosh’s world, woman who merely say “no” shouldn’t complain about being raped, and men are basically slavering beasts controlled by their penises. What a lovely view of the world!

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Posted on August 2, 2012, in antifeminism, creepy, douchebaggery, men who should not ever be with women ever, misandry, misogyny, narcissism, penises, rape, rapey, rhymes with roosh. Bookmark the permalink. 491 Comments.

  1. Monsieur sans Nom

    Why in the sweaty hell do you assume no one would program an intelligent robot to be violent or intolerant? You’re the one claiming to be the cynic here. If humanity is as ignoble and incapable of change as you claim, then what in the FUCK makes you think that someone designing a super-powered, hyper-intelligent robot could only do so only with the best intentions?

    The idea is to design technology so advanced that it cannot be controlled. Kinda like a futuristic, 21st century Frankenstein. We’ll see my friend, we’ll see…………

    Some 13 years ago, I had the idea not of replacing people with Robots, but creating an entire new biological species from an existing organism using recombinant DNA technology. Biology is actually very messy, so this might be a lot harder to do than sentient robots.

  2. Some 13 years ago, I had the idea not of replacing people with Robots, but creating an entire new biological species from an existing organism using recombinant DNA technology.

    Thirteen years ago, wouldn’t you have been, like, three?

    Seriously, all your half-baked dystopian fantasies just scream “doodled on my notebook during study hall.”

  3. Kinda like a futuristic, 21st century Frankenstein.

    Right, because we all know how non-violent Frankenstein’s monster was.

  4. “Some 13 years ago, I had the idea not of replacing people with Robots, but creating an entire new biological species from an existing organism using recombinant DNA technology. Biology is actually very messy, so this might be a lot harder to do than sentient robots.”

    “Thirteen years ago, wouldn’t you have been, like, three?

    Seriously, all your half-baked dystopian fantasies just scream “doodled on my notebook during study hall.””

    So this girl was really mean to me in the hallway – she shuddered and called me a creep when all I was doing was following her around with a small recording device! And then this dude on the football team gave me a swirlie, and that’s when I decided that humanity needed to be replaced by sentient robots. Not for my own selfish reasons, you understand – I’m not emotional like women are.

  5. Monsieur sans Nom

    “Thirteen years ago, wouldn’t you have been, like, three?

    Nope! More like 20. ;)

  6. You do realise that actually makes you look worse, don’t you?

  7. I am a rising corporate executive and entrepreneur-on-the-side;

    Meaning: one of myriad of useless mouths in corporate middle management who could disappear tomorrow without any significant impact on the project they’re on, with a failing home business of some sort, possibly a pyramid scheme or Amway.

    I would ask that you at least show me the courtesy of acknowledging my station.

    You’re probably not even nouveau riche (as opposed to old money), nevermind having a ‘station’. In any case the only proper deference a capitalist should receive is an opportunity for pithy last words before the guillotine blade falls down.

    I have accomplished more in my young life than you ever will.

    Correction: your employees accomplished more in their life than you ever did.

  8. As a rising young recombinant cyborg executive, I take offense to everything that has been said by everyone ever.

  9. I would ask that you at least show me the courtesy of acknowledging my station.

    That’s hard to do when we don’t know your location. Bakerloo? Columbus Circle? U Street? Belmont? Pershing Square?

    Excuse me? It’s King’s Cross, plat. 9 3/4: where all the rising corporate executive/grad students hang out.

  10. It’s hard to acknowledge anyone’s “station”, if they have enough time on their hands to argue day after day against The Internet People. I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with that, people have their reasons to spend lots of time on forums and blogs etc. I’m saying whatever you claim to be doing clearly is not important enough because you spend more time commenting here than I am even able to, and I’ve got all the time in the world to waste right now on my sick leave.

    So don’t even try to pull that bullshit. It’s ridiculous to claim you’re somehow “better” than the rest here, trying to “validate” whatever dream you might have and which you are failing at. If you weren’t you’d not have the need to prove yourself here.

  11. Also,

    ” The reason why those whiny “nice guys” don’t get women is because they foolishly believe that by being civil to women and treating them well, they can convince women to *become* attracted to them even if said women don’t feel any such feelings whatsoever. Somebody could say “well I fell for him cuz he’s a gentleman and treats me with respect”, but you cannot honestly verify if she is actually telling the truth, or at least the Whole Truth. If I dont find someone sexually attractive who is nice to me, I will be friends with them but will reject any attempts by them to take it any further. And for that I’m not unique! I don’t see what’s so unreasonable or outrageous about this notion.”

    I don’t think it’s unreasonable if you say that is how you function. I’m not gonna deny that you may feel that way. However, other people may be different.

    I’ve dated three guys who I didn’t find particularly attractive until later. All started as being friends. It’s not that I found them unattractive, I simply had not thought about them as anything but friends. How those three relationships developed happened exactly like you claim is not possible. I’ve also not dated friend guys who started flirting with me, so it’s true that being nice is not an absolute guarantee of a date. But those three relationships of varying lengths make up a significant portion of “guys I’ve dated”.

    It’s patently untrue that just being nice to someone you fancy cannot get you a date. It absolutely can, and perhaps some of us are the kind of people who are more receptive to that than others. And if you now say I probably just say this because I’m “an unreliable woman” (or am I?) and what I say cannot be verified…. yeah, it is the internet. Everyone here is free to take each others’ comments as they will, based on the commenter’s presumed trustworthiness. Especially bystanders reading this discussion. There is a lot of people refuting your points as nonsense, with both personal testimonies and harder proof. Is your arsepulled hypothesis going to stand?

  12. @Monsieur Sans Nom

    Why would they be present? At least we have more control over them(for now)than we do over our own brains.

    The idea is to design technology so advanced that it cannot be controlled.

    If the technology is so advanced that it cannot be controlled then, once again, why would the robots not become violent or intolerant, even if people prevented that in the beginning? Robots would probably be better in many things than humans, but you have yet to explain why morality would be one of those things.

    If you can’t think of any reasons they would do bad things then you have a very limited imagination.
    Consider this: some robots would most likely be more advanced than others, because technology evolves and all. The more advanced models could look down on the less advanced ones and view them as obsolete, so there’s your intolerance right there.
    Now image that it would be costlier to upgrade the older models than to build new ones, so the newer models decide that the older models, who are still sentient, should be destroyed to reuse their parts to make better models, so there’s your violence.

    What would stop this from happening, exactly? You do realize that Asimov’s laws of robotics don’t work, right? That was the plot of several of his stories.

    Now, I personally don’t think sentient robots would inevitably become evil, but I don’t think they would be inevitably good either. They would probably be complex beings, with their own problems and foibles, much like humans. You don’t seem to grasp that.

  13. I’m spamming now, sorry…. but I’m on the wrong timezone and reading back on you lot’s spammity while you sleep!

    Anyway, I thought about this and figured that my current relationship kind of qualifies, because my partner is not a jerk to me, on the opposite. I just left him out because it was me who made the first move and not him. So I didn’t notice him because of his niceness, but the attraction was already there. I also left out any relationships sans penis to make it easy on Mr. Omnom’s brain. It might break from trying to comprehend the social politics of those.

  14. Also, what’s to stop these sentient robots from looking at humans and all the destructive shit we do to our own planet and deciding to “deal with” us for the greater good? Like we do with “pest” species.

    I know Om nom would prefer humans to go extinct anyway, but the forced extinction (is there actually a “-cide” word for a species? as in “genocide”, but species.. specicide?) of humans would hardly make them “better” than us.

  15. @Myoo

    To continue on your thoughts there… I get the impression that Mr Omnom thinks he’s onto a social revolution kind of thing with his robotics. It’s the same kind of thinking that has been present in most religious and political leaders. Thinking they have the answers to the ills of humanity and if everyone just followed their advice everything would be good for everyone. I suppose in talking about replacing people with robots he thinks this could be accomplished where all before him have failed.

    But sentience means reasoning and feeling, which inevitably ties with questioning. He himself has arrived to his conclusions by using these human skills, and yet in order to accomplish his utopia he would have to deny the same skills of his subjects. If even one of his robots was sentient in the true sense zie would feel, question and reason and eventually come to zir own conclusions about the status quo.

    Mind that I’m not making a difference between “sentience” and “sapience” here, but include the latter in the former. If we want to separate the two and consider this robot race “sentient” alone, then we might as well discuss dolphins. But since the comparison to humans was made earlier, I assume we’re talking a sentient-sapient being here.

  16. I am a rising corporate executive and entrepreneur-on-the-side;

    I’m going to disagree with blackbloc here; you’re not even at middle manager.

    I would ask that you at least show me the courtesy of acknowledging my station.

    Sure thing, barnacle.

    I have accomplished more in my young life than you ever will.

    I’ve published short stories and paid the electric bill with them; According to Stephen King, Rod Serling, and many, many other writers, I’m a writer, and I managed it while I have a full time job. You’re a worthless barnacle.

    Checkmate, barnacle.

  17. In before ‘B*RN*CL* IS SHAMING LANGUAGE YOU VILE MISANDRIST!!!!!111one!1′.

  18. I’m sorry? I am a rising corporate executive and entrepreneur-on-the-side; I would ask that you at least show me the courtesy of acknowledging my station.

    You know, it’s like he’s working down a checklist of casual bigotries. Sexism, double check! Racism, check! Aaaaaaaand classism, check. Of course, he’s presenting himself as superior because of social status he doesn’t even have, which is interesting.

  19. Mind that I’m not making a difference between “sentience” and “sapience” here, but include the latter in the former. If we want to separate the two and consider this robot race “sentient” alone, then we might as well discuss dolphins. But since the comparison to humans was made earlier, I assume we’re talking a sentient-sapient being here.

    Yeah, that’s the way I’m using it as well, although I must note that dolphins can be real assholes.
    And I get that Monsieur Sans Nom(MSN) thinks everything would just be better with robots but he hasn’t presented any reason as to why that would be so. Religious leaders have scripture with rules to be obeyed and often a “direct line to God(s)”, and political leaders also have some sort of ideology like “the rich have a lot of money so they create jobs, so they should continue to be rich”, but MSN doesn’t offer any explanation, it’s just “because robots”.

  20. Monsieur sans Nom

    But sentience means reasoning and feeling, which inevitably ties with questioning. He himself has arrived to his conclusions by using these human skills, and yet in order to accomplish his utopia he would have to deny the same skills of his subjects. If even one of his robots was sentient in the true sense zie would feel, question and reason and eventually come to zir own conclusions about the status quo.

    No, it does not mean “feeling”. Sentience does not require emotion, even though some of us cannot imagine what it’s like to be able to think but not “feel.

  21. I’m sorry? I am a rising corporate executive and entrepreneur-on-the-side; I would ask that you at least show me the courtesy of acknowledging my station.

    I have accomplished more in my young life than you ever will.

    Excuuuuuuuuuuse you. It’s so cute that you realize you can be whatever you want to be on the internet.

    How come so few of our trolls (excepting NWO and one of Mr. A’s socks) ever say they’re blue collar workers? It’s always this mid-level fascist functionary executive shit.

  22. No, it does not mean “feeling”. Sentience does not require emotion, even though some of us cannot imagine what it’s like to be able to think but not “feel.

    No feelings? No sadness, no pain, no fear, no anger, no happiness, no love, no nothing? Why would these robots make other robots and strive to continue to exist, what motivation do they have?

  23. How come so few of our trolls (excepting NWO and one of Mr. A’s socks) ever say they’re blue collar workers? It’s always this mid-level fascist functionary executive shit.

    a) Because mid-level executive is MENZ WORK which retains class privilege too. Unlike MENZ WORK in mines/factories/garages etc. Even though the second type of MENZ WORK is REAL MENZ WORK THAT WIMMINZ SHOULD BE DOING TO PROVE THEIR WORTH, it’s also a bit too much effort and a bit too low-status for our noble keyboard warriors.

    b) They have no imagination. It’s exceedingly likely that Steelepole et. al are making this up to make themselves seem important and clever, but it’s also highly non-specific.

    I can’t really theorise about the reasons any more, because I’ve never resorted to lying about my jobs on the internet to gratify a false sense of huffy importance and self-righteousness. I like my jobs, I don’t mind talking about them. None of them are massively high-status, but I get to do some cool things and enjoy my life as I wish.

  24. To be fair, I do believe MSN when he says he’s 33.

    It is extremely sad that someone 15 years out of high school thinks feminists are in a cabal to prevent geeks from having sex, and that all women like jerks, and that evo-psych in general is correct, but it is believable.

  25. They have no imagination.

    No kidding, eh? Like, if you wanted to actually impress us, say you built a school in Bangladesh or something.

    Claiming to be a white male 30-something mid level manager is essentially claiming, “I have fully accomplished exactly what society says a person like me should accomplish, on exactly the same time frame. I have succeeded at fulfilling a stereotype. Be impressed.”

  26. It’s the lack of imagination that kills me. I pretty much am what Butthorn claims to be, and I would never in a million years use it as a beatstick, because it’s really not all it’s cracked up to be and isn’t nearly as difficult as they make it out.

  27. Clearly the difficulty comes in (for him, at least) when you’re being an arsehole on the internet during work time and you need to avoid getting caught.

  28. Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III

    Excuse me? He has his foot firmly on the second rung of the ladder! Be impressed, damn it!

  29. No kidding, eh? Like, if you wanted to actually impress us, say you built a school in Bangladesh or something.

    Claiming to be a white male 30-something mid level manager is essentially claiming, “I have fully accomplished exactly what society says a person like me should accomplish, on exactly the same time frame. I have succeeded at fulfilling a stereotype. Be impressed.”

    Exactly. It’s so dull. I’ll list my actual jobs at the moment. None glamorous or high paying, but certainly sound more interesting than ‘middle management’ (and I’m barely anonymous, this is all checkable). I a) test things for Google b) do gig promotion c) fundraising organisation/events management for various groups c) review gigs/books/etc. (great freebies in this, but Buttpole can’t write for shitmisandry, so not something he could claim to do) d) write about social justice stuff for various websites and a couple of newspapers.

    And I’m only 22. Suck it, Steele.

  30. You know, in point of actual fact, I’d note the inherent disconnect between the sneering disbelief at my station and the sneering denigration of said station as mediocre and unimpressive; easy to attain. I’d note that, but I would think it’s already painfully obvious to anyone with half a brain cell.

    I cannot speak to the concept of the “white male corporate executive” as a stereotype. Perhaps, perhaps not. I can only look out for my own life. I also suppose the ‘type might become less apt if I specified exactly what it is that I do; however, I am not going to do that.

    And with that, I have spent entirely too much time on this vile hateblog on a beautiful Saturday afternoon. Rain check.

  31. @Steele

    We don’t disbelieve that you’re a businessman because it’s hard, we disbelieve it because, a week before you said you were a businessman you said you were a grad student.

    We believed you the first time. It is actually impossible to believe you all the time, because you keep contradicting yourself.

  32. I cannot speak to the concept of the “white male corporate executive” as a stereotype. Perhaps, perhaps not.

    This is quite possibly the dumbest thing I have ever read.

  33. You’re puffing yourself up to try and impress us, but lack the imagination to come up with anything impressive to brag about. So where’s the disconnect you refer to?

  34. I am a grad student; as I have said from the first, I take classes on the side.

    Disingenuous, as always. Have you been taking lessons from Pecunium?

  35. Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III

    Of course! No one can lie about unimpressive achievements. Or at least that’s what my adult education instructor said before telling me I came second place in his polymer ceramics class!*

    *This is a lie.

  36. @Steele

    So let’s add up your time here.

    I have never met an executive who works less than 55 hours a week. However, you are actually an entrepreneur executive. Let’s charitably say that you work less than 90% of entrepreneurs and only do the 60 hours a week.

    Now, let’s add in grad school. Let’s say you take one class at a time. With course work, a grad-level seminar will run you about 12 hours a week.

    You comment on Manboobz about 10 hours a week.

    You say you go out “often” with Ella. Let’s call it 8 hours a week.

    You need 8 hours a night of sleep. You spend maybe three hours a day commuting, eating, cleaning, bathing, etc.

    You’re at 174 hours, in a 168 hour week, and I haven’t even added in the free time you claim to have.

  37. You know, in point of actual fact, I’d note the inherent disconnect between the sneering disbelief at my station and the sneering denigration of said station as mediocre and unimpressive; easy to attain. I’d note that, but I would think it’s already painfully obvious to anyone with half a brain cell.

    You’re a serial liar, and you expect us to believe you? Oh Steele, never change XD

    I cannot speak to the concept of the “white male corporate executive” as a stereotype. Perhaps, perhaps not.

    Like I said, serial liar. XD

  38. And with that, I have spent entirely too much time on this vile hateblog on a beautiful Saturday afternoon. Rain check.

    Disingenuous, as always. Have you been taking lessons from Pecunium?

    *Head resting on hands eagerly*
    Go on.

  39. @Steele

    Keep in mind that at this rate it would take you 8 years to get a standard Master’s. and God help you if you’re going for a ph. d.

    Also, why the change? You originally just said that you were a grad student; nothing about running your own business.

    I know you think you’re being super sneaky, but it is really, really obvious that you’re making shit up.

  40. @Steele, also I charitably calculated it as if being an entrepreneur and being an executive were the same job, when your actual statement was as I recall “I am an entrepreneur AND a successful businessman.” So your actual hour count, taking you at your word, would be in the 220s.

  41. I wonder what Roosh suggests when the female in question says “Fuck off and die in a fire?”

  42. Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III

    My money’s on something like shift supervisor. Nothing even remotely important, but just enough petty authority to convince himself he’s a big deal. As for the grad student thing, well maybe, but God help whoever has to read his thesis if it’s as overwritten and under referenced as his internet writing.

  43. Ugh – Thanks for dictating a detailed version of my schedule to me, despite having absolutely no clue what I do or how I make it work. Try again, please.

    Rutee – Can you give an example? Aside from the Butthorn imbroglio, that is; remember, “serial” means “more than one”.

    Vile assholes.

  44. @Bodsworth

    Lol! I can just see it now, his thesis committee rejecting the dissertation without comment, just sending it back stapled to a one page information leaflet entitled “What are footnotes? An undergrad’s guide to college writing.”

  45. @Steele

    Then let us know. How are you able to manage your own business, be an executive is someone else’s business, be a grad student, and spend 10 hours a week here and with your lady friend? What is your expected convocation date?

  46. Yuyuko Saigyouji

    It’s funny how it is this kind of people who further stereotypes about men being stupid sex fiends who can’t control themselves while also ranting about how they are much more “logical” than those evil irrational women.

  47. Or am I stretching your creativity too far on this one?

    Also, seriously, everyone here knows you’re full of shit. And that’s okay. Go out and enjoy your day; stop throwing new lies after bad news.

  48. Rutee – Can you give an example? Aside from the Butthorn imbroglio, that is; remember, “serial” means “more than one”.

    Sure. There’s you saying that me and Cliff call for dudes to pay for everything for women ever, and misandry and yadayadayada, and we want ‘lifestyles subsidized’ because we’re cool with dudes on average paying for dates (Which are so the most expensive part of our lives) because women on average make less for the same work, and because women spend more on preparation for dates.

    Whenever you claim *ANYTHING* is misandry, until you substantiate it (and you haven’t), you are a liar at this point. We’ve done a good end on our burden of proof!

    Let’s see, there’s you saying that you’re ‘anti-racist’, before spewing a shit ton of racist shit. There’s you saying ‘misandry’ prevented you from being a writer (No, it’s your lack of talent). You lied that your acquaintance was autistic. You lied that you’re going to take a rain check (And have lied on a number of flounces besides)…

  49. Saigyouji Yuyuko! Whee, touhou fans unite! Or not, but heeeeeeeee.

  50. Monsieur sans Nom

    No feelings? No sadness, no pain, no fear, no anger, no happiness, no love, no nothing? Why would these robots make other robots and strive to continue to exist, what motivation do they have?

    A will to *survive*. We also have a survival instinct which is distinct from our emotions. Emotions are a part of us, but they do not define us completely.

    Have you heard about Jessica Valenti? She’s a canadian feminist who wants to ban robotic sex toys. He reasoning is that they’ll be used exclusively by men as a full time substitute for women. And so men will prefer robots as sexual partners and won’t be investing their time and energy in sexual relationships with women…………And so women won’t be able to get knocked up and this is somehow going to *oppress* women. But I see no reason why sexbots can’t be designed for intercourse with women and women can also have robot lovers that ultimately will be human like enough to satisfy our senses; but with no danger of unwanted pregnancy. Perhaps that is how robots will replace humans instead of robot armies hunting humans to extinction.

  51. Ugh – Thanks for dictating a detailed version of my schedule to me, despite having absolutely no clue what I do or how I make it work. Try again, please.

    Rutee – Can you give an example? Aside from the Butthorn imbroglio, that is; remember, “serial” means “more than one”.

    Vile assholes.

    I thought you were going to run along and play in traffic on this beautiful Saturday afternoon?

  52. @MSN

    Haha guess who fails at reading comprehension? Valenti is American, not Canadian.

    Also, who fails at research. You realize that the hypothetical act, the Human-Robot Personal Relationship Act, does not exist outside of MRA sites, right? Like, you realize that rationally, you could go to the Parliament website, search proposed acts of the last ten years for that, and it wouldn’t be there right?

    More simply, you understand there is a difference between things that are true, and things that are not true, right?

  53. Excuse me? Us two disagreeing over the existence of misandry, and you being wrong, does not make me a liar, it makes us people who disagree. I and others have substantiated our claims many times before. I’d recommend reading up on Warren Farrell, if you want an academic take.

    I do, in point of actual fact, believe that the vile expectation for men to pay for dates is effectively expecting men to subsidize women’s livelihood, at least to a certain extent. It’s a meal, correct? And you need meals to live, correct? I rest my case. And this does not even account for the epidemic of younger women who hop from date to date in order to live off free food. That truly is subsidizing one’s livelihood.

    Finally, the misandry of my teacher did indeed discourage me from pursuing a writing career. Would I have made it? I cannot be sure, but in point of fact, misandry was what ceased my progress.

    Again, disagreeing with you does not make me a liar. Please, do not make yourself the jester’s fool.

  54. Excuse me? Go rest your case somewhere else.

    Ah, yes, the big bad executive with nothing better to today. It’s hard out there for a pimp.

  55. the epidemic of younger women who hop from date to date in order to live off free food

    I would give 10 to 1 odds that he read that one reddit article about the woman who dates for food on OKCupid and called that “an epidemic.”

    Please, do not make yourself the jester’s fool.

    Says the man who comes here reliably, day after day, to say stupid shit and be mocked for it.

  56. damn ugh, you got an excuse me? and a jester’s fool in the same post. mikey’s got his pretentious rage hat screwed on tight today

  57. Please stop whining about misandry and your teacher who derailed your brilliant writing career. Since you use words like “irregardless” and phrases like “jester’s fool,” I’d say she did the world a solid in discouraging you.

    Also, you don’t NEED to go out to dinner. Shut up about paying on dates. Very few if any people are going on dates every night and have someone else picking up the tab.

  58. Sadly, I think both were for Rutee. I only got a vile asshole.

  59. Finally, the misandry of my teacher did indeed discourage me from pursuing a writing career. Would I have made it? I cannot be sure, but in point of fact, misandry was what ceased my progress.

    for the millionth time, mikey, this is a pathetic excuse for not following your dreams. stop blaming women for things that are your fault.

  60. Scharculese: and to think he said he couldn’t play today. Guess it’s not such a beautiful day after all wherever he is.

  61. Would I have made it? I cannot be sure, but in point of fact,

    Actual writers know how to use the phrase “point of fact.” They also know what a fact is. I think we can know whether you would have made it as a writer.

  62. I cannot speak to the concept of the “white male corporate executive” as a stereotype. Perhaps, perhaps not. I can only look out for my own life. I also suppose the ‘type might become less apt if I specified exactly what it is that I do; however, I am not going to do that.

    write less shitty

  63. Steele, you’re 27, you have a computer and obviously a lot of free time. What’s stopping to write now, misandry again?

  64. Us two disagreeing over the existence of misandry, and you being wrong, does not make me a liar,

    Inventing facts out of wholecloth is the definition of being a liar, and you’ve been doing it XD

    I’d recommend reading up on Warren Farrell, if you want an academic take.

    Farrell can’t get his shit published in academia because it’s poorly thought and factually wrong. He relies on private publishers because he doesn’t actually have something that can meet peer review. So academia is not on your side, unsurprisingly, because reality isn’t.

    And you need meals to live, correct?

    Paying for one particular meal or two a week, when they’re covering the rest, and could cover those two as well, isn’t really doing a whole lot to ‘subsidize their livelihood’. It’s just comping a meal or two.

    the epidemic of younger women who hop from date to date in order to live off free food

    Filing that under ‘shit that never happened’.

    Finally, the misandry of my teacher did indeed discourage me from pursuing a writing career

    You have no talent. Telling you that is, if anything, doing you a favor, because it’s an honest evaluation of your ability.

    . Please, do not make yourself the jester’s fool.

    *Hands on chin again* Tell me again how your professor is responsible for you not writing~

    I notice you avoided the outright, obvious lies, like “I’M LEAVING”, and “My acquaintance is autistic” incidentally, rather than just playing fast and loose with the truth. You finally concede the sock puppetting, and that was a *series* of lies on its own. There’s you saying that David did a vile hack job on you, forcing you to be concerned for your life (Though I don’t doubt you were paranoid enough to be frightened*

  65. that would cut too much into his e-stalking time

  66. Lie1: Torvus Butthorn
    Lie2: Steele
    Lie3: David’s vile smear campaign

  67. @Steele

    You know that Warren Farrel’s ph d is in poli sci, right? He tries to hide it on all his book jackets by just saying he has “a ph d” full stop. He is literally less qualified to write about psychology or biology than a 2nd year psych undergrad.

  68. And this does not even account for the epidemic of younger women who hop from date to date in order to live off free food. That truly is subsidizing one’s livelihood.

    It seems like it’d be hard to get, say, Wednesday lunch. And you’re not likely to ever get breakfast unless you sleep with people. (At which point you’re severely underpricing your sex work.)

    Plus, what a waste of all your time! Spending every evening with a different person, putting on a calculated act so they’ll like you enough for another few dates, spending the rest of your time trying to hustle up dates–you won’t be able to have friends or hobbies! And you’re still going to have to work because none of this pays for your rent/utilities/clothing/etc.

    Seems a whole lot easier to just go to the supermarket.

  69. Cliff, in Steele’s world, no one ever goes to the store or cooks a dinner. It’s nothing but roving packs of women in restaurants, 24/7.

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