Roosh V has a little trouble with the concept of “no.” [TW: Rape Apologia]
Recently, a nameless commenter here asked “What exactly is “rapey” about Pick Up Artistry?” The post below should help to answer that question.
Hey, fellas! Say you’ve applied some state of the art Pickup Artistry on some HB 10 (“hot babe 10”) and you’re about to add another notch to your “girls I’ve totally had sex with” belt – and she has the gall to tell you “no.” Should you be worried?
Pickup artist Roosh Valizedah (whom we were talking about just yesterday) says, er, no. Apparently “no” (when the word is uttered by a girl you are groping) is actually a variant of “yes.” Who knew?
While every feminist likes to repeat the phrase “No means no,” it depends on context. Here’s a guide:
“No” when you try to take off her jeans or shirt means… “You need to turn me on a lot more.”
“No” when you try to take off her bra means… “Try again in five minutes.”
“No” when you try to take off her panties means… “Don’t give up now!”
I find the only word that means no is “stop.” If you hear that word then she’ll be asking you to leave soon after.
So just filter out everything she says other than the word “stop” and you’ll be fine. Oh, and if she actually starts punching you, that’s also a clue that she doesn’t want to have sex with you.
For every rape accusation I’d want to know at what stage of undress the girl was at before the supposed rape happened. If she was completely naked until saying no, and got there voluntarily, then I’d be reluctant to charge the man with rape unless there were signs of violence.
Gals need to remember, Roosh explains, that once a man gets a boner he’s pretty much helpless. His innate biological drives require that he either have sex with you (if you’re willing) or rape you (if you are unwilling and remember to say “stop” as well as “no”).
Women need to understand that men aren’t robots who can suddenly stop at the drop of a dime with all that testosterone pumping through their system. Therefore it would be prudent for them not to enter situations where the average man can’t stop due to his innate weaknesses as an animal whose entire existence depends on him successfully mating.
If it gets to that point, Roosh advises the ladies, you should just try to enjoy the rape as best you can – like it’s some sort of carnival ride.
Every roller coaster has a point while chugging up that first hill where’s there’s no turning back and you just need to hang on for the ride. In other words, don’t let a man on your bed unless you’re trying to get it.
So, In Roosh’s world, woman who merely say “no” shouldn’t complain about being raped, and men are basically slavering beasts controlled by their penises. What a lovely view of the world!
Posted on August 2, 2012, in antifeminism, creepy, douchebaggery, men who should not ever be with women ever, misandry, misogyny, narcissism, penises, rape, rapey, rhymes with roosh. Bookmark the permalink. 491 Comments.
Yeah, I get that, hence my certain value of “positive” comment.
The most generous reading one can give Roosh is that he’s not a rapist, but some asshole giving really rapey advice for shits and giggles. And you went right for it.
And of course he knows how it can be interpreted. And he also knows that he count on idiots like you who say shit like “She just regretted it in the morning.” to cover his tracks.
because ‘he hit me first’ is a conception of justice most people grow out of around age five
fucking duh
he means he’s throwing out bullshit to avoid having to admit he’s got no clue what he’s talking about. i thought that was clear.
Nice, Nomnom. David should definitely set you and Ruby up on a playdate.
Also,
? Is it ‘raped’? I almost can’t believe there are people who think there is an inexorable march from ‘kissing’ to ‘whatever I want to do to you’ and their partner CAN’T stop at any time. Ugh.
If you really think prison rape is OK as an extralegal punishment, a.) you suck, and b.) have you met Ruby? You two are gonna get along great.
@whataboutthemoonz
Watch out! You’ll break the Internet! :)
MSN, you exemplify pretty much everything I despise about cynics. And that is your blatant use of “everything seems horrible to me, so that must be the natural state of things” to defend inaction when it comes to horrid things in life, even going as far as to defend the horrid things themselves. Sure rose coloured glasses tend to distort your vision, but so do jade ones, and that’s what I find most cynics tend to forget.
The roller-coaster metaphor is horribly inaccurate. Human beings are not machines that you can’t communicate and reason with.
My father said some time ago that it doesn’t matter if it’s in the middle of a hot session of horisontal mambo that was completely consensual. If the other partner at any point says no (or otherwise indicates that they wish to stop) you better damn well stop.
Consent is, as many have pointed out, a process that continues troughout any interaction with another person.
This “Roosh” should keep far, far away from people in general.
He clearly has no understanding how humanity works.
you know he’s just doing it because he’s a dumb contrarian who needs attention, right? dude’s like msn dont actually believe in anything.
>Pretty sure that not all PUAs, or even PUA *gurus* advocate this kind of behavior whatsoever. Seduction itself is not about rape.
It seems that ignoring the “no” and using a variety of methodes to overcome that so-called “Last minute resistance” is pretty standard in current-day PUA methodology. but then again, I’ve only read that one book about the dude who eventually shagged up with Courtney Love’s Guitarrist, so I won’t claim even informed amateur status on the topic.
And Nomless once again whips out the “no true scotsman”.
He asked what about PUA could be seen as rapey. He got an answer, from a big name PUA, and his answer… No one who has any sense listens to him.
There you have it, he’s a big name PUA because NO ONE LISTENS TO HIM.
Nope, all the guys whom one never hears advocating rape, those are the true face of PUA.
Roosh, however, has been saying this shit for years. He’s published books saying all this stuff. But you say he’s just faking it for the Lulz.
I will concede that some aspects of feminism are just and proper. Women should have some say of how many children they want…
While it doesn’t look good for you in terms of marriage, at the minimum any educated, employed man in a first-world nation should be able to sleep with a handful of decent women a year. But without having sexist beliefs, he will wholeheartedly struggle in that front. Here’s what it means to be a sexist:
Having a low level of respect for women.
Having the belief that the genders are not equal (you should nod or smile at the following quote: “A woman can do anything a man can do, as long as a man first shows her how”).
Not listening to them about anything.
Studying flavors of game based on the alpha-male model, an effective countermeasure to feminism.
Preferring the company of compliant, feminine women of different nationalities where feminism has not made strong inroads (Eastern Europe, Southeast Asia, South America).
Add that to… Well, if I’m on a date with a girl I will happily listen to her stories, observational comments, or experiences with a committed hobby she has worked hard on, but the moment she starts trying to preach or educate me on matters she has little true understanding on, I know she has gotten too big for her britches. Too many guys before me allowed her to ramble on about nonsense without telling her to shut the fuck up, and because of that she actually believes that she possesses wisdom or knows how to solve problems like men have done for centuries…
And…
Well, if I’m on a date with a girl I will happily listen to her stories, observational comments, or experiences with a committed hobby she has worked hard on, but the moment she starts trying to preach or educate me on matters she has little true understanding on, I know she has gotten too big for her britches. Too many guys before me allowed her to ramble on about nonsense without telling her to shut the fuck up, and because of that she actually believes that she possesses wisdom or knows how to solve problems like men have done for centuries.
Over the past year I’ve been much more open to getting into a relationship with a girl I like, but unfortunately I can’t tame the dog inside me that wants to fuck a new girl every other week. So my current game strategy is to get a girl-next-door type who isn’t a club rat and treats me well and then return the favor by taking her out, pleasuring her, and caring for her when she has the sniffles. During that time I lie and creep on the side with random girls.
From a different post on how to cheat on people you are dating.
Physical evidence is the killer. You can always deny rumors or purported sightings by a friend, but a tiny piece of condom wrapper laying at the side of your bed and she’ll never let it go. If she has no physical evidence on you, and did not you see with another girl, deny until you die. Be a sociopath and believe your denial. Tell her she’s crazy. She knows you’re a cheat and you know she knows you’re a cheat but she has no proof so… not guilty.
Of course, if a woman has a busy weekend, it’s not what she tells him, no:
Friday: Your Brazilian girl texts you from a party, says there are “a lot of gringos.” Stays there late.
Saturday: You send her a text at 6pm but she waits three hours before replying that she was “sleeping.”
Following Friday: She says she’ll be busy Saturday, but doesn’t say with whom. Even though it’s easier to say “I’m going out with Stevie,” some girls have trouble lying.
Saturday night: She says she is free.
Likely Story: She met a gringo on the first Friday and he asked her to a coffee date or drink early Saturday evening. There he told her to keep the following Saturday free but eventually flaked on her. This means she’s actively looking for better.
He is, (to go with his, “she ought to have some say in how many kids she has” bullshit) against women having an education.
Anything beyond a bachelors at a public university is a near guarantee she’ll possess a large basket of masculine traits that will prevent boners. Unless you’re a latent homosexual, you won’t get many benefits from a relationship with a woman on the right side of the chart.
So, for a guy whose not really a PUA… he sure puts a lot of effort into it, doing interviews with websites like columbiawow.com.
His followers are not against being violent to their partners, or against rape, they have a forum where they talk about their game.
(triggering about rape and violence)
I heard a theory that it goes back to the caveman days. Rape was so common on those days that women just had to accept it. Their brain evolved to a point were they just accepted being physically dominated and even started to enjoy it, as a survival mechanism. When they knew they were about to be raped they learned to not fight back, because fighting back lead to more serious injury or death.
Just a theory
And this gem.
RE: How To Choke A Woman
There is one nasty side-effect to choking….good luck getting rid of the girl after. She will become FATALLY ATTRACTED AND OBSESSED WITH YOU, if you execute the choke at the exact moment of her orgasm. Not kidding!
But hey, just in case you want to argue they didn’t know what they were talking about, one of the more active posters (more than 1,800 comments), said,
RE: How To Choke A Woman
Why aren’t we having more threads like this? This is righteous abuse.
So RooshV is having an effect on the world; based on the writings you dismiss as being something less than serious.
The word “geek” is overused and it was a mistake on my part to use it for what it meant some 20+ years ago. I do wonder if you’re serious that the odds of sleeping with you are much higher for a guy who is socially inept/weird than a normal guy or one who has the geek pretense but finely honed social skills.
@sharculese, oh of course, contrarians piss me off too, I really don’t get it, you’d think the whole, being contrary/offensive for the sake of being contrary/offensive thing would have gotten old by now.
Hooray for gaslighting. :-/
Nomless: What I truly think is that it bothers a lot of women that geek/unattractive guys just *might* figure out how to succeed in hooking up with women and getting laid.
Right.
I’m a geeky dude. I’ve never had a problem getting laid. I know lots of geeky dudes who get lots of sex.
I don’t think that’s it. I think it’s shit like, “Ignore her when she says no.”
For someone who claims to be so much smarter than everyone else, you are working really hard to make excuses for a guy who is advocating not getting consent/ignoring someone telling you they aren’t consenting.
PUA artists advocate for rape. Deal with it.
LOLOLOLOL
Weak countertroll is WEAKSAUCE.
Apparently according to Omnomnom, “real geeks” don’t have social skills.
So provide a half decent retort, we’re waiting.
Shorter Roosh: you ASKED for it, you sluts!
Douchebag.
Also, I’m a geek, I have issues with social skills, actually scratch that, I’m an aspie and still my social skills are fine, anxiety is the root of my problem. However, I didn’t resort to PUA in order to try and attract people, I just admitted that dating is really hit or miss, and that I shouldn’t let a failed romance get me down. *GASP* It’s almost as if people who have self-esteem issues and social anxiety can come out of their shell without having to resort to rape and coercion tactics.
These guys really don’t believe that anyone is having sex outside of their paradigm, do they? They think everyone is playing these games, and they’re just learning to win more often. Whereas the rest of us are using a whole different set of rules, like “it doesn’t make you less important if you aren’t having much sex” and “it’s better to be horny with a clear conscience than a rapist”.
Oh for fuck’s sake. Do we really have to go through another 5 pages of your whining about being “socially inept” and unable to get laid? Jesus Christ, dude, everything is NOT about you and your penis.
I’m probably less likely to sleep with a guy who has worse social skills.
…Oh well? That’s my decision. Doesn’t mean he gets to go “well, I tried doing this the nice way and that didn’t work, so now I’m justified in manipulating and bullying and maybe outright raping you.”
Also, I’ve never really gotten a clear-cut definition of good vs. bad social skills, I just try to be awesome towards everyone unless they’re, you know saying/doing stuff that really needs to be called out. Is that good or bad?
@Mr. Sans Nom
http://www.greatwhitesnark.com/2010/03/25/difference-between-nerd-dork-and-geek-explained-in-a-venn-diagram/
So I’m a geek and there’s a few nerds around here. You’re a dork.
Thank you.
What are the odds that by ‘a guy who is socially inept/weird’ Nomnom is thinking of someone in particular…?
And really, why would any woman’s mission in life be ‘make sure x type of guy never gets laid’? As though we sit around stroking white cats and plotting how to reduce the sum total of sex in the world.
According to that diagram I’m a nerd then, my obsession is obscure EDM.
“The word “geek” is overused and it was a mistake on my part to use it for what it meant some 20+ years ago.”
So you’re going to deliberately use a word to describe something it does not actually mean, and then whinge about whether or not somebody else “means” what they say?
FTR, someone with bad social skills but absolute respect of boundaries is waaaaaaaay more fuckable than someone with great social skills who is also a rapist. But like Cliff said, if you choose not to fuck someone on top of that it’s your business.
Heheh, I’m somewhere between geek/nerd.
Or indeed if you don’t feel attracted to them because of social skills, which happens at a rather more subconscious level than anything I’d call a choice.
(Choice to only have sex with people who you feel attracted to is a choice, of course.)
Hmmm…why is wordpress skipping randomly between my two usernames!
O! Nomless: I’m old enough that I was a geek, in the sense you are talking about.
I still got laid. Not by the cheerleaders, but by women who weren’t interested in jocks and the like. They were interested in me. Might not have been the, “Oh my god!, and dragging me behind bush (well not all the time), but it wasn’t all that rare either.
They got to know me, and we liked each other, and we had sex.
When I was in my teens/early twenties they tended to be a bit older than I was; so, even as callow as I was, there was something interesting.
As to this: “The word “geek” is overused and it was a mistake on my part to use it for what it meant some 20+ years ago.”, keep moving those goalposts.
You used the word, without qualification; the fault is yours.
But I suspect there is more to the complaint than you are sharing.
It also depends a lot on what we’re defining as “bad social skills”, since it’s sort of a broadly used term. I mean, I tend to say that about myself, when really it’s a social anxiety-type thing and i’m still aware enough that I know that annoying or upsetting someone = bad, because empathy (it doesn’t stop me excessively worrying about doing it by accident though, or just generally making myself look stupid.. hence me not getting out much, if at all).
But it can also mean someone who doesn’t realise when they’re being a giant douche, and/or doesn’t care if they are. So it can be pretty vague.
Monsieur Sans nom, I’m gonna start calling you Monsieur trou de cul.
In case there are any geek men lurking and lamenting their undesired celibacy, let me share a secret with you on How to Get Sexed:
1) Treat the individuals you meet of your preferred gender like they are people.
b) Keep meeting people of your preferred gender. Some of them you will want to have sex with, some you won’t. Some may want you when you don’t want them! But that’s okay.
iii) Eventually one of those people you are treating with decency and discover you like and desire will want to have sex with you at the same time you want to have sex with them. CONTINUE TO TREAT THIS PERSON LIKE A PERSON.
4) Profit.
Your numbering scheme! IT PAINS ME.
Morkai: Yes, it ought to be
1
b
iii
000100
1
10
11
100
REPUDIATE THE TERNARY HERESY
Geeky and unattractive are not the same thing (I know this is obvious to everyone except a few butthurt dudes who like to blame the fact that women find them repulsive on their love of Star Trek/D&D). But hey, let’s say for a minute that there is a guy who all women universally find unattractive and don’t want to have sex with. How could such a guy “figure out” how to get women into bed?
It’s not going to be via any consensual means, that’s for sure, if it’s true that all women find him unattractive. Sexist dudes don’t seem to be aware of the implications of their words (which are obvious to everyone else) when they say things like this.
“What I truly think is that it bothers a lot of women that geek/unattractive guys just *might* figure out how to succeed in hooking up with women and getting laid.”
(Of course, once again, geeky does not equal unattractive. But keep telling yourself that your Gundam toy collection is why women won’t fuck you, rather than your unfortunate physical appearance/shitty personality/nasty attitudes towards women.)
It’s the “figure out” that keeps getting me — like there’s some secret trick to make people like you/women fuck you and we’re all keeping it in a safe with our Krabby Patty Secret Formula?
It’s the woman as sex vending machine paradigm. Always popular with angry sexist dorks. Clearly there is a cheat code, and feminists are attempting to suppress it out of sheer malice.
Heheh, cheat code. The cheat code is EMPATHY.
Yeah c’mon, we’re mindless sex-crazed beasts, not robots. Don’t be so insulting.
Wait – is this why Om Nom wants to kill off humanity and replace us with robots? We won’t be sex-crazed beasts then.
(Actually it wouldn’t surprise me if he was in favor of having the male bots programmed to be rapey, just for lulz.)
Still a luck-based mission. Some people approach it as the dreaded Escort Mission, but I don’t think that’s quite right; you can let them fight for themself while you’re doing other stuff, though the cheat code does require at least being aware while they’re doing that and offering help if they want it.
The basic “social skills” that PUA/abusers advocate is how to push a no to a maybe, and a maybe to a yes. They would have better success with the regular kind, but them it wouldn’t be a game that a woman has to lose for them to win.
Hey, whaddaya know? I’m a dweeb.
Wow….. I mean, is he serious? Is that his actual fucking attitude? There’s a certain point of being turned on where a guy just loses control? Oh Roosh, don’t underestimate your gender like that. I personally know plenty of guys who are willing to go so far and no further with a girl. Though I wonder…exactly how far is the point Roosh think there’s no coming back from? Just so I can save myself from getting raped, of course. In exactly what situation is it that the “average man” finds he “cant stop”?
Because maybe I’ve been blessed, but all the average men in my life have always taken no for an answer, no matter what the situation. In fact, all the average men in my life would be pretty fucking sickened if some guy DIDNT take no from an answer for me, even if we were already “on the rollercoaster”. In fact, I think they’d fucking kill him.
UGH, I cant believe I’m actually here explaining that rape is wrong! What kind of a fucked up world do we live in here we have to argue that rape is wrong….. I dream of a world where “rape is wrong” is seen as a fact, not a fucking opinion.
I cannot say I have ever really thought about asshole guys getting (consensually) laid. hurting or going out with my friends? Sure. Hitting on me? Yes, it does come to mind then. But in general, being angry that asshole guys are getting laid? Do not give a shit. In fact, I’ve only ever heard men harp about it. I know there are enough asshole women to go around, too, and hope they meet their match.
Also, THIS is fucking awesome. Tempted to put it on my blog….
In case there are any geek men lurking and lamenting their undesired celibacy, let me share a secret with you on How to Get Sexed:
1) Treat the individuals you meet of your preferred gender like they are people.
b) Keep meeting people of your preferred gender. Some of them you will want to have sex with, some you won’t. Some may want you when you don’t want them! But that’s okay.
iii) Eventually one of those people you are treating with decency and discover you like and desire will want to have sex with you at the same time you want to have sex with them. CONTINUE TO TREAT THIS PERSON LIKE A PERSON.
4) Profit.
Hm. I’m a nerd.
I’m cool with that.
What exactly is a ‘shitty personality’ anyway? I’m not sure if what I think is a ‘shitty personality’ is correct, since I cannot fathom why some of my closest friends have a really hard time getting anyone interested in them: They’re law-abiding, hard-working, sensitive, empathic and have a strong sense of loyalty, yet they’re still unable to get anyone interested in them. Since they’re not ugly (certainly not male models, but not Uruk-Hai either), what gives?
I’m a geek. Not a surprise.
1, b, iii, 4? Is that trying to be the tenth Doctor confused on his counting, or just does it just accidentally align with that?
Voyage of the Damned —
The Doctor: Okay, okay. Tch, tch. First things first. One: we’re going to climb through this ship. B… no… two: we’re going to reach the bridge. Three – or C: we’re going to save the Titanic. And, coming in a very low Four or D or that little “iv” in brackets they use in footnotes… why. Right then, follow me.
As for the OP, dude, get some empathy, or go away.
But…but but, aspergers.
Empathy // not being an asshole? The golden rule is probably sufficient, assuming you have some sense of how you want to be treated vs how “most people” want to be treated.
“Hi! Do you know about vampire watermelons?”
And then don’t do anything without invitation.
What’s that you say? You want an example of shitty personality?
Meet Mr Nameless. He has a personality that could send any woman running away screaming within approximately 3 minutes.
Perhaps I’m too optimistic to think that some bitter, angry “radical” feminist hasn’t blogged about how the 1959 rock’n’roll song “Love potion number 9″ is somehow advocating date rape. What I truly think is that it bothers a lot of women that geek/unattractive guys just *might* figure out how to succeed in hooking up with women and getting laid.
Ahhaha, classic! “Why are you getting upset about the crappy things PUAs are doing? I’m sure they’re great guys underneath, and they’re just joking, and they didn’t really mean it, and they probably aren’t raping that many women. You ought to be upset about these imaginary things feminists might do that I just made up! Sure, nobody’s actually done these things! But they COULD! Isn’t that AWFUL?”
This is why nobody buys the “I’m not a misogynist, I hate everybody” schtick, hon. And why girls won’t go out with you. It’s not because you’re a poor underappreciated nerd and girls are dumb old meanies. It’s because you would be crappy to them, and they know it.
RE: RAPE IS JUST A ROLLERCOASTER ANALOGY-
First of all, fail.
Second of all, if you want to make a better analogy, imagine this if you will.
Let us say that in our society was made up of theme parks. You’re around roller coasters all the time. Everyone goes on about how fun it is, and yet, at the same time, if you are female, you are inundated with FRIGHTENING STORIES about ride operators who actively TRY and disable the safety mechanisms on the roller coasters when women decide to ride them- in fact, this is a well known problem that everyone “knows” about but for some reason there is no real way to “prove” it unless the person is caught in the act by several witnesses and a policeman. There are laws against sabotaging roller coasters, but these operators, well, they’re just too devious and figure out ways to make it sound like it was all just a “malfunction” caused by the fact that women have breasts, and you, know, breasts make things malfunction because they push on safety harnesses too much or something.
And the worst thing? Everyone would rather believe that when said sabotage incidents happen and a woman flies out of her safety harness and plummets to her death or breaks a ton of bones in the fall, or is ragdolled around desperately trying to hold onto her seat while the coaster is going and sustains significant trauma both psychological and physical, that it is LIKELY THE WOMAN’S FAULT.
So, if you’re a woman and you decide to ride a roller coaster, you have to deal with the social perceptions about women and roller coasters (ie: if you get hurt, it’s your own damn fault, even if it’s being actively sabotaged by a woman-hating ride operator), and even when it’s fun and you don’t get hurt, that’s pretty much the thing you’re thinking about as you get strapped in for the ride and go up that first big hill.
And that’s the thing, you can ride the same roller coaster a hundred times without incident, but if the operator of the ride changes to a different person or the operator becomes angry and vengeful, you can still end up being chucked out of your seat at 75MPH.
And then men, who have never had to worry about being actively targeted, tell women that they’re just “too sensitive” and accuse them of “not wanting to have fun.” Of course, everyone KNOWS that the odd man here or there has fallen victim to the same sort of sabotage, but everyone comes up with excuses, platitudes, or even “well he deserved it because he should have been strong enough to hold the safety harness in place while the ride was in motion.”
A surefire way to make anything that is fun and enjoyable into something frightening and stressful is to include a lot of predators who are good at pretending they are benign who do their best to blend in before going in for the kill, and a society that generally tries to make excuses for the predators when they eventually predate on others.
99% of my nightmares about the guy who raped me involve us being at a social event and everyone telling me that I have to be “nice” to him and “play well” and allow him to be around me, and their subsequent disgust and anger when I freak out and try and get away from him, all the while he’s pretending to be all friendly and “oh why is Nanasha so crazy?” while everyone laughs at my “craziness.”
He knows he got away with raping me. He knows he could rape me again if he got me into the right situation, especially if he used social groups as a way to corner me. And the thing is, pretty much everyone around me will say it’s my fault, and say it’s also me being the fucked up one if I don’t “play nice” when he’s around.
I hate how guys who are willfully assholes use asperger’s (in other people, of course) as an excuse for why women don’t fuck them.
Studies have found that the idea of having testosterone “pumping through your veins” actually causes far more aggressive behaviour than actually having increased levels of testosterone. So you can have very low levels and psych yourself into this testo-rage, but wouldn’t notice much difference if someone gave you a dose without you explicitly knowing you’re getting T.
Maybe you PUAs just need to stop psyching yourselves about imaginary testosterone and you will have less problems controlling yourselves. Will also help in court where they probably won’t buy these pseudoscientific hypotheses your gurus forcefeed you.
pointing out your dumbass motivations isnt countertrolling
I don’t use it as an excuse for why I don’t get laid, I only bring it up as the reason I’m scared shitless to talk to people in real life.
I’m hearing some variations of that “Nice Guy” ™ whine, “Why do women have sex with jerks when they should be having sex with meeeeee!” On this thread, which is terrible, because the topic was about dudes who promote rapey behavior. These hypothetical geeky/nerdy/dorks who are allegedly great guys but just socially awkward — and maybe not conventionally handsome, always find their way to these threads to insert themselves into the center of the universe.
Listen, women are people, women are people, women are people. We can’t fix you either; you have to do that yourself….pop culture is lying to you….we don’t want to give you a make-over then go to the dance so you can show your friends how awesome you are.
Just be decent.
@aworldanonymous, well, just let me say, i think you do a great job talking to people in this space, as far as i’ve seen.
How is giving men advice that directly leads them to commit a felony not a crime in and of itself?
EXACTLY!
Women like jerks. This is well known. “Nice guys” need to toughen up, grow a pair, and learn how to be assertive and dominant. Women are people and I’ve said before, people can’t be fixed. Yeah yeah, you can argue all you want about how people aren’t hardwired and how they’re socially conditioned, blah blah blah…….But at the end of the day that’s exactly how they behave so it’s really a moot point. ;)
You’re right. It’s not countertrolling(on your part), it’s just retarded.
Ok, M. sansnom, someone says ‘just be decent ‘ and you say, “Exactly! Women like jerks.” I suspect you might have missed their meaning a bit.
“@aworldanonymous, well, just let me say, i think you do a great job talking to people in this space, as far as i’ve seen.”
Seconded.
Mr. No Name — didn’t you get told once already today that “retarded” is ableist language and not okay? Try learning something.