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The Spearhead: “Educated” women are destined for spinsterhood and misery

No one will ever love her.

Oh, you ladies, why do you even bother getting educated – sorry, “educated?”  Don’t you know that if you get too educated you might end up marrying some dude who is less educated than you, which is apparently contrary to the laws of nature? Or maybe you’ll end up not getting married at all? The horror.

On The Spearhead, guest poster Lyn87 explains how he dropped some “red pill” knowledge on a buddy of his during a recent outing:

One guy has teenage daughters that he’s planning to put through college. I could not resist inserting some red pill into the mix, so I mentioned that 60% of degrees were going to women, and that women prefer to marry up. Since “educated” women don’t often go for “uneducated” men, a lot of women of his daughter’s generation were on their way toward spinsterhood for lack of “suitable” mates.

So women with education are only “educated” in scare-quotes. But men who are “uneducated” also get the scare quotes, because presumably they are wise beyond their years of formal study.

Alas, Lyn87’s friend wasn’t convinced by this brilliant argument to reconsider his decision to put his daughters through college, which leads Lyn87 to consider the possibility that “that some malevolent group of “Jezebels” is dissolving blue pills into the supply of drinking water.” Lions and tigers and malevolent Jezebels, oh my!

Consider his daughters. I’m sure they are good kids who would make any parent proud. But they don’t live on an island – they live among their peers and within the confines of biological and demographic reality. Even if EVERY one of their male college classmates marries one of his female classmates, a third of those young women will not find a male age-peer who is even her “academic equal,” much less someone with a higher level of education. But not every male graduate will marry a female classmate. Some will marry down. Some will choose not marry at all. Then subtract out the guys who are “creepy,” gay, or otherwise unsuitable, and we are left with a generation of “educated” women who are barreling toward a demographic wall at high velocity.

So women marrying guys with less education, or deciding not to marry at all, is somehow the equivalent of careening into a brick wall at top speed?

Marry up? My buddy’s daughters will be lucky if they can marry “across.” Many women of that generation will face hard choices: supply and demand in the adult world doesn’t much care how “empowered” you were in college. The women of that generation may be able to marry down, but few will want to. They may not marry at all and become wards of the state when they bear bastard children. They may become involuntary childless spinsters. They may go for much older men, but many of them have been through the Family Court meat grinder and must devote much of their effort to paying their exes’ bills.

Or they could end up like a friend of mine, happily unmarried at the age of 40 and dating a dude in his twenties. Or like another friend of mine, also 40, in a happily open marriage with a man a few years her junior and with several regular partners on the side. Or in a committed lesbian relationship.

And why assume that any single woman older than, oh, 25 is “involuntarily childless?”  Most of the women I hang out with don’t want kids. They really, really don’t.

There are more things in heaven and earth, Lyn87, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

We know the score here: the degrees these girls are getting cluster in the “Who are you trying to kid?” category. They are not truly superior to the guys of their generation, but that degree in “You Must Be Joking!” makes them think they are. Most emerge from college with a pile of debt, no marketable skills they didn’t already possess in high school, and a few laps around the carousel – older but no wiser, and blissfully unaware that half of their years of prime beauty and fertility are already in the rear-view mirror.

Ugh. This again? At the age of 22 or so, “half of their years of prime beauty and fertility” are gone? Really? Their biological clock starts ticking at the age of, what, 16?

So instead of going to college, girls should be getting hitched before they even graduate from high school, so as to maximize their prime years of beauty and fertility? Sorry to have to break this to you, Lyn87, but that’s a recipe for disaster — even by “traditionalist” standards. According to a 2001 study by the Centers for Disease Control, nearly half of those who marry before they’re 18 divorce within ten years; that’s twice the divorce rate of those who wait until they’re at least 25.

Lyn87, somehow I suspect your buddy with the teenage daughters is doing a better job of looking out for their best interests than you are.

Some, er, “highlights” from the comments.

Kendoka seconds Lyn87’s concerns:

I question the popular wisdom of fathers relinquishing custody and authority over their 18 year old daughters by putting them through an institution designed to indoctrinate and create entitled promiscuous feminist careerist harpies and not loving wives and mothers through marriage.

A Father’s work is not complete until he has guided his daughter directly into marriage with his authority transfered to her husband. “Careers” can wait. Family cannot.

DruidV shares his less-than-fond memories of life in the 1980s, and offers a note of optimism for the future (for dudes anyway):

Way back in prehistoric times, say around 1985, I used to find myself very depressed when I would take note of all the foolish and desperate males I knew, who were jumping through impossible hoops for fickle females that just would let the poor bastards continue to keep right on jumping through those hoops, apparently just for their own entertainment. These twats seemed to take an almost sociopathic delight in this ‘sport’. The males were simply trying to be accepted.
Pathetic, really.

Nowadays, I look about and see that young males are sick, tired, disgusted and jaded with these soulless cunts. Make no mistake, the hoops are still there, firmly in place for the males to jump through, but they are seeing less and less traffic every day.

I for one can easily see the females of generation z growing old alone, but for their cats and dying that way too and from what I’ve seen, these bitches can forget about marrying up, or even across anymore. These asshole entitlement whores won’t even be marrying down, in the not too distant future.

YAY!!!

Keyster presents a similarly optimistic scenario for the future — if predicting the apocalypse counts as optimism, which it generally does in MRA circles:

We have a perfect storm brewing of women working, men not, and each one rejecting marriage. In case no one noticed the Feminists started the gender war, and they won. Present day we live with the spiraling consequences; societal decline. Upon the collapse women will be the victims, AGAIN. The survivors will be men with only their own self-interest in mind. The last remnants of white-knightery will struggle to protect and provide, but will be ill-equipped to handle the guilt of failing.

Days of Broken Arrows isn’t quite so dramatic. He merely predicts that the dad planning on sending his girls to college will end up regretting this decision:

[N]ow instead of his daughter someday marrying the guy she met at 18, he’d prefer [her] to be using every orifice when she’s a fucktoy for a line of Alpha males who’ll pump and dump her. And he means that he doesn’t want a son-in-law or grandchildren. Well, I guess that’s all well and good, so long as it’s not “the way it used to be.”

Huh. Do colleges even have classes any more, or is it just one long orgy? How do these Alpha males have any time to study?

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Posted on July 30, 2012, in alpha asshole cock carousel, alpha males, antifeminism, armageddon, gloating, I'm totally being sarcastic, marriage strike, men who should not ever be with women ever, misogyny, MRA, reactionary bullshit, the spearhead, your time will come. Bookmark the permalink. 468 Comments.

  1. It is only the education best applied to men, and misapplied to little lady lovelies, where it becomes pernicious and destructive. Educating girls and women in the manner of, and for the porposes of, men, is useless and destructive,and results in the inevitable unhappiness and frustration of everybody concerned!

    Later in his life, Edmund Spencer went blind. This was a great disappointment to him because he could no longer compose poetry or engage in correspondence with his colleagues and friends.

    But he found a solution! He had a number of daughters sitting around, looking pretty, doing nothing but waiting for some guy to come along so Spencer could sell him a daughter.

    So in the meantime, Spencer put his daughters to a useful occupation. He taught them to spell and pronounce words in Latin so that he could continue his composing and his learned correspondence by dictating to them. What he didn’t do was teach them to understand those Latin words, so the content of the writings he dictated to them passed right over their heads.

    What you are proposing, Mr. Meller, is educating women to the extent that they are useful to men, and no more. But your scheme bears the seeds of its own destruction. You want to allow women to be able to make witty conversation with men, and to that end allow them to become “somewhat” literate. Well, expose enough minds to the written word and I’m sure some would become insatiably curious, and not content to stay within the meagre bounds you prescribe, and that’ll be the end of your scheme.

    Go play with your dolls again.

  2. DKM: Educating girls and women in the manner of, and for the porposes of, men, is useless and destructive,and results in the inevitable unhappiness and frustration of everybody concerned!

    And, in your view of the world, when women are so educated, it’s not surprising that the men murder them!

    DKM, for those of you who have only recently begun to peruse Manboobz, believes that women are at fault for making men hit, or kill, them.

    Actually, if he did have shit for brains, he’d probably be better off, critical thinking wise, than he is now.

    My invariable quote for when he shows up: the comments that got him on moderation last time.

    DKM:

    So much for all of the nonsense gibberish here on womenbeinghateful(a.k.a. manboobz.com) about my being cruel to kitties–or women!

    You don’t get it, do you, DKM? The only “nonsense gibberish” is your maunderings about how if kittens (or presumably any other pets) or WOMEN don’t behave, they should be punished–and men who kill women are driven to it.

    Your words. Live with them:

    http://manboobz.com/2012/02/09/alcuin-and-out-or-the-kkk-with-tits/comment-page-8/#comment-123827

    Ithiliana–February 12, 2012 @2:31pm

    “graduate student “murdered” by ex-husband”

    Take post cited above. Could woman who talks like that (over the ‘net) have such an unpleasant, unfeminine, and just plain horrid personality that she could say something that MAY provoke an unpleasant response from a nearby man who may already be troubled about something else. Look at all of the cases you read about where a murder or vicious assault or rape was committed by a man whose entire life was coming apart, and the very person—his wife–whom he was relying upon to keep what was left of his sanity was turning on him…

    Did graduate student take her “how to handle men” or something like that from YOU?

    I was explaining that a man who loved his nearest and dearest would do anything to avoid the spousal abuse so often cited on feminuttery websites and blogs like this, because it wouldn’t get him what he wanted! I would rather be kind, gentle, and loving to a woman than beat,rape, or kill her, and so would most men, for obvious reasons!

    Gee, Ithiliana, for an intelligent woman, you sure have a lot of trouble understanding ordinary common sense, don’t you?

  3. Wow, someone said slime earlier, and Mellertoad oozed up. Freaky.

  4. And once again D.K. Meller is here to bitterly lament the fact that women are intelligent and well-informed enough to want nothing to do with a miserable sleazebag such as himself.

  5. @Falconer: I think the blind poet using daughters was Milton (goes to google)! Does not seem to mention blindness in Spenser’s bio.

  6. @ithiliana, yes i think it was Milton, i remember that fact from my Honours year English…the reason i remember it from so long ago (early 90s) is that the lecturer regaled us with the fact that Milton would summon his daughters to record his words by yelling out “MILK ME”.

    at the time, i sniggered helplessly at the back of the hall.

  7. why am i in moderation? what bad did i do?

  8. Spenser didn’t go blind, and wasn’t known for Latin Verse, so I’m with the idea that it’s Milton.

    But even at that, most of Milton’s work was in Engish, even those, such as Defensio Secunda, which were aimed at Continental Audiences, were simultaneously written in English.

    With the exception of, De doctrina Christiana, which was found almost 150 years after his death, there isn’t any great body of work in Latin from him, and things like, Defensio pro Populorum Anglicano and Colosterion were written before he lost his sight.

    So it’s not, so far as I can see, a fair complaint that he denied his daughters the ability to understand his work.

  9. David K. Meller

    Ithiliana,

    All that I was saying in the post that you are so fond of quoting as an example of my “favoring” the kiling of women who don’t obey(??!) is a variance of the commonplace observation that “an ounce of prevention is worth a poiund of cure”.

    If a woman knows that a certain course of action is likely to provoke undesirable consequences, isn’t it mere common sense to suggest that, in her own interest, she should avoid the action which is contraindicated?

    Or are even intelligent women incapable of such common sense?

  10. What is being cured? She got a divorce. She moved away. He chose to hunt her down and kill her.

    Your answer is… do whatever he tells you, don’t make him angry. If he beats you, well don’t leave… that will only make him kill you.

    Men, of course, don’t need to worry. Any woman who would hit one, or (god forbid) kill him is a beast, and needs to be put down (as with a kitten who scratches).

    Your answer is.. be a slave. That’s always been your answer. Liberty… only for the men. Women need to do what they are told; and know the are alive only because the man, of whom they are the property, chooses not to kill them.

  11. Meller, SHUT UP. By all means, keep digging if you must, but you sure aren’t doing yourself any favors. You’re making yourself look like an even bigger toad.

  12. Pecunium and Hellkell: Thank you! *hugs*

  13. Hugs back, Ithiliana. Only a complete fuckhead like him would try to defend what happened to your student.

  14. He’s not being a fuckhead. He knows just what he’s saying. He’s dressing it up with, “common sense” but he wants women to be afraid. He wants them to be terrified of standing up for themselves. He wants them to be scared to death of the consequences of leaving.

    He pretends to being “shocked, shocked, to discover” that some men don’t favor reward over punishment. But he isn’t unhappy about it. His scheme for running the world needs some men to be willing to abuse and kill their partner, pour encourage les autres.

    Which is why he works to keep the examples just enough out of sight to be not-quite ignored; while decrying anything any woman does which isn’t subservient as being a deviation from all that is fitting and proper.

    I’ve met people like him, usually racists, but sexists too. I’m not non-violent. I will defend someone else, with force if I know the situation merits it. The hard part is those times when it’s not quite to the point that intervening is workable.

    But Meller… if I knew him, I’d be keeping an eye on him.

  15. @Pecunium: Which is why he works to keep the examples just enough out of sight to be not-quite ignored; while decrying anything any woman does which isn’t subservient as being a deviation from all that is fitting and proper.

    Yup–which is one reason I keep posting that–so people who are not familiar with his behavior will see it!

  16. Pecunium, he is a fuckhead. I’m well aware that he knows exactly what he’s saying.

  17. yeah… you’re right. He is a fuckhead. I let the undertone take over my reaction, because he is such a weak-kneed, weaselly fuckhead.

  18. Shitbird’s probably an even better descriptor.

  19. David K. Meller

    namecalling, and misrepresentation, from people who know how feminism has completely corrupted relationships between the sexes, and instigated bitterness, and even violence, where none existed, but who have no real logic or arguments to support “equality of the sexes” now that the empirical consequences of that idea are stinking up the economy and society on all levels and for almost everyone–except for the(criminal) elites at the very top–EVERYWHERE, from the civil service to the armed forces, from academia to much of the “news” and iformation media, from what passes for popular entertainment to the law and the judiciary…

    Everything has been polluted with the wretched “equality” that we are all, like so many mindless lemmings, supposed to celebrate, and the results are becoming all too clear.

    For an all too brief overview, simply treat yourselves to viewing a few of the so-called “rightwing” blogs and websites that I cited in previous posts.

  20. Shorter Meller: blah blah blah…

    Meller, come up with something new to whine about. Even back in the golden days of yore, men would be appalled with your thinking and women still wouldn’t marry you.

  21. <More bitter whiny trolling.

  22. Meller, Who do you think you are convincing? We don’t agree that everything is ruined. t could be more equal, and I think that would be good , but things aren’t broken (certainly not the Army). I know you are disappointed that you don’t get a Gorean Slave Girl of your very own; one who will know she doesn’t measure up to Madame Alexander; and is barely worthy to dust her Lady Loveliness.

    But that’s not the fault of feminism. There are women who want to live a life of Gor.

    The problem Meller, is you. They don’t want you.

    Because you are a whiney, woman-hating, shitbird.

  23. David K. Meller

    Pecunium (otherwise known as argumentum ad hominem):

    It takes one to know one!

  24. David K. Meller: I know you are and I am too!

  25. Oh fucking hell, Meller. This is pathetic, even for you.

    It’s not an ad hominem to point out that it’s your own fault you can’t cope the modern world. Because first of all, it’s true. And second, it does in fact invalidate your entire argument.

  26. Meller: To know what? That I have a partner, and lovers? That I have a partner, and lovers, because of my character?

    I can live with that.

    As to ad hominem…. nope. I didn’t say your arguments were invalid because you have vile beliefs. I said you are alone with your dolls because you have vile beliefs.

    I further insulted you by saying the women who share your fantasies don’t want you, and imputed it to their having the sense to recognise your vile beliefs.

    This is because I happen to think you have vile beliefs, and even accepting that fact about you I am showing more respect than you deserve; because honestly, people who think the shit you think; who let such anger, hatred and bigotry fill their heads, don’t deserve the courtesy of even such politesse as I’ve shown you.

    Were I to loose my actual sentiments, you would clutch your pearls, swoon and probably faint onto your doll collection. Some of them would get hurt. They deserve better than that; which is part of why I restrain myself.

  27. Meller: Still laughing at cancer patients? Still trying to get people to euthanize their cats for being cats? Yes? Fuck right off then.

    And I call bullshit on your ‘educated women will all be spinsters’ theory. I have… gods, I have something like six years of college (no degree, because Life, the Universe and Everything keeps fucking up my plans) and am happily married. I know many other very well educated women who are either married or in happy relationships. You are, as ever, full of shit.

  28. … from people who know how feminism has completely corrupted relationships between the sexes, and instigated bitterness, and even violence, where none existed, …

    Bitterness and even violence did not exist in relationships between the sexes prior to feminism? You believe that? Are you REALLY. THAT. STUPID??

  29. Pam: Sometimes I think so. Other times, I am sure it’s mostly an act.

    But yes, Meller does think that feminism has increased the bitterness. Mostly by making it less acceptable to beat women. He is also resentful that they aren’t property. That’s the part that make him bitter. He doesn’t get to own women.

    Because he really doesn’t think them fully human. Like blacks they aren’t as smart, or rational as white men; so they need to be isolated, kept from harm, and the dissatisfactions they would suffer if people told them they are every bit as capable as men.

  30. There was a time where violence and displeasure in marriage were way better hidden today, and a hidden problem is a solved problem, right?

  31. Pecunium: And in that regard, I suppose that he is correct, that feminism has increased the bitterness and violence in men who are like him. Better that we return to the “golden age”, where women and/or POC needed to keep their bitterness and resentment under wraps in order to merely survive; then we can pretend that it doesn’t exist and that all is well with the world.

  32. “And why assume that any single woman older than, oh, 25 is “involuntarily childless?” Most of the women I hang out with don’t want kids. They really, really don’t.”

    Exceptions are not the rule. Most women want children. Most women will have children.

    They might become spinsters if they have unrealistic standards, such as expecting to marry a college educated male. Hypergamy cannot coexist with feminism. A quick search on the web will reveal many educated, gainfully employed women who are upset that they cannot find a man with equal or greater finances.

  33. Hypergamy can’t exist without feminism?

    This social pattern that has been known to exist as long as there have been ways to record it. It exists in places where marriage is the only road for women to improve their place in society. It’s most common where women are chattel to their male relatives.

    But, if you have evidence to support your claim that “most women want children by the age of 25″, feel free to provide it.

  34. Mark, hypergamy (I hate that word) has existed long before feminism, you dolt.

    What about men, do they want kids? These kids dont’ happen by themselves.

  35. Mark is a dolt, but in the spirit of fair play I want to point out that he said “Hypergamy cannot coexist with feminism” not “Hypergamy cannot exist without feminism.”

    But yeah, you know, citation needed.

  36. Oh, shit, I read that completely wrong. Sorry Mark.

    You’re still rather doltish for your insistence that all women want children.

  37. My mistake. I don’t understand what he means about hypergamy and feminism.

  38. I think it’s that feminism improves the lot of women, which then prevents them from marrying up (from their newly improved status). In other words, it’s easier to marry up if your status is really low. But who knows, maybe he’ll come back and explain himself.

  39. @Mark: When I was a kid, I loved the animal toys I was given (I still have my big tiger sitting on my bookcase in my office–I am a professor of English). The “baby dolls” mostly sat around in chairs or in a crib–boring!

    When I was in high school, I saw the “live birth” film and went oh holy fuck NO.

    I’m currently 56, living with a woman, and the first thing we promised each other before we moved in together was NO babies!

    So fuck your “most women want babbies.”

    A lot of women do. A lot of men do. Blessings on them–I have never tried to lecture people on NOT having children, but it’s amazing how many married w/children people feel they can lecture me on my choices!

    But not all–the more more women are given the choice regarding children, the better.

    Thinking of my closest women friends–most did not want and did not have children–more of the men did.

  40. I’m currently 56, living with a woman, and the first thing we promised each other before we moved in together was NO babies!

    So fuck your “most women want babbies.”

    Thinking of my closest women friends–most did not want and did not have children–more of the men did.

    “None of my closest friends voted for Nixon. So fuck your ‘most of the popular vote went to Nixon.'”

  41. Oh Scrape: Can’t you do better than that? The person she is refuting did just that, with his claim that the lettercols and op-ed pieces and the like of women bemoaning their childless state proved him right.

    I know you want to start a fight, but really, you are going to have to be more subtle than this; esp. because you have no real credibility here.

  42. Thinking of my closest women friends–most did not want and did not have children–more of the men did.

    That is similar to my experience, as well, and some of my close women friends who DO have children (children who are adults now) did so because of societal/parental pressure, not because of an innate burning desire to have children.

    That was my “unrealistic expectation” back when I was younger (am 57 now) and actively dating, to partner with a male who was of like mind as me when it came to not desiring to have children. That greatly narrowed the field for me.

  43. Exceptions are not the rule. Most women want children. Most women will have children.

    Sure. Ditto for most men. That still doesn’t mean that there isn’t a sizable minority of people of all genders who don’t want children, and a huge majority of people who, at some point in their life, did not want children right now. I’m over 25. I do not have any children. I like children very much and intend to raise some at some point. I am very definitely not “involuntarily childless,” and the idea that a woman’s options are “marry some dude,” “have children out of wedlock,” or “be involuntarily childless” is profoundly stupid. “Be childless and perfectly happy about it, either as a temporary or permanent state of being” is very much an option, and an option that the overwhelming majority of people take for at least some period of time.

  44. ScrapeTroll: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

    Rhetorical analysis, ur doing it rong.

  45. They might become spinsters if they have unrealistic standards, such as expecting to marry a college educated male. Hypergamy cannot coexist with feminism. A quick search on the web will reveal many educated, gainfully employed women who are upset that they cannot find a man with equal or greater finances.

    So now equal finances is hypergamy? Or is he trying to say that as women come up in the word men must necessarily regress? Success isn’t a zero sum game you know. I’m college educated. Most of my friends are college educated. My married friends have all married college educated men and women. None of my friends are lacking for dates/partners that are their equals financially (from a straightforward education/employment standpoint).

  46. @ Hellkell

    “You’re still rather doltish for your insistence that all women want children.”

    Most women DO want children. You have said nothing to prove me wrong.

    @ Ithiliana

    You are an exception to the rule.

  47. Shadow said, ‘So now equal finances is hypergamy? Or is he trying to say that as women come up in the word men must necessarily regress? Success isn’t a zero sum game you know. I’m college educated. Most of my friends are college educated. My married friends have all married college educated men and women. None of my friends are lacking for dates/partners that are their equals financially (from a straightforward education/employment standpoint).”

    By definition, YES! Women are statistically (Census data) are less willing to marry down. Most women will not consider a man with smaller finances. Do you deny Census data?

  48. Pam said, “That is similar to my experience, as well, and some of my close women friends who DO have children (children who are adults now) did so because of societal/parental pressure, not because of an innate burning desire to have children.”

    I felt pressure to provide for women, yet I haven’t done so. You have poor self-control, Pam. Stop blaming society for your choices.

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