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The Men”s Rights subreddit weighs in on the “Why is Reddit So Anti-Woman?” debate.

Over on AskReddit, someone called 478nist has asked a question that has been puzzling a lot of us for some time: “Why is Reddit so anti-women? (outside of r/gonewild anyway).”

I used to think it was just because the large majority of users are men, but it’s not pro-men it’s becoming more and more anti-women.

Outside of the friendzoned crap, any comment that leans towards any kind of talk of womens issues, equal rights etc gets downvoted to hell so it’s not even capable of being discussed. It seems like it’s an US vs THEM mentality more and more. Was it always like this?

The thread that followed is nearly 2000 comments long, so far, and has gotten written up on TheAtlanticWire. The discussion is surprisingly … good? Not perfect — after all, this is Reddit we’re talking about here — but not terrible.

So naturally our friends in the Men’s Rights subreddit are complaining about it.

The legendary AnthonyZarat offers this thought:

MauraLoona, meanwhile, challenges the premise of 478nist’s question, and thereby challenges reality itself:

Legitimateusername also has a problem with Reddit’s alleged surplus of manginas.

Fuckrpolitics_again just goes with some plain old-fashioned misogyny:

The Men’s Rights subreddit, such a reliable generator of self-righteous poop.

 

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Posted on July 28, 2012, in antifeminism, kitties, manginas, men who should not ever be with women ever, misogyny, MRA, neckbeard rights, oppressed men, penises, reddit, vaginas. Bookmark the permalink. 650 Comments.

  1. ShadetheDruid

    Linking fail, I blame the broken page.

  2. howardbann1ster

    D’oh!

  3. ShadetheDruid

    Yay, fresh new page. First one to break it gets a cookie. :P

  4. Yay, fresh new page. First one to break it gets a cookie. :P

    Cookie please! ^_^

    Maybe?

  5. awww….

  6. maybe?

  7. poo…

    (Sorry bout the quadruple post)

  8. Fitcher's Bird

    Power lunch, hmm. My mental image of Varpole is now this (or maybe it’s his image of himself).

    (will the page-breaking cookie be mine?)

  9. thebionicmommy

    *offers condolences and hugs to indifferentsky*

  10. Maybe we can try to break the italics too!

  11. chibigodzilla

    I got this.

  12. So sorry for you loss, indifffferentsky. Losing a parent is hell.

  13. Break Everything Everywhere AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

  14. ShadetheDruid

    Wow, just.. wow. That’s even worse than before. :P

  15. Methinks chibigodzilla got it!

  16. This is why we can’t have nice things.

  17. The trick is to put the forward slash after the letters in your close tag.

  18. chibigodzilla, I think you just opened pandora’s box for us.

  19. a round of thanks to everyone, and this bold stuff is a fun change up.

  20. You know, reading Rutee’s recent posts, I’ve noticed she’s taken a shine to racial slurs. So from now on I’m going to be referring to her as “spic”. Of course, the Boobz King will likely censor me, so don’t worry, spic, you won’t have to look at this post for too long.

    And as studies have shown, the homeless are disproportionately men; “the poor” depends on how you define it, spic.

  21. Well, I could also mention some of the more obnoxious tags that have (thankfully) been deprecated.

  22. indifferentsky, sorry for your loss.

  23. I don’t have a clue what spic means, if it’s bad or not, but what racial slurs? I might be missing them being because English is not my mother tongue.
    Anyway, “you said something bad so now I will say something bad each time I’ll talk to you” makes you sound like a four yo. Or NWOSlave.

  24. Damn, I just fixed the last page. Now I’ve got to fix this one too?

    I’ll leave it up to you all: to fix or not to fix.

    Also, Steele, what racial slur did Rutee use?

    Do I have to put you on moderation?

    I probably should just as a matter of course, because you’re sounding more and more like an old banned troll we used to know.

  25. Great, another troll getting himself moderated on purpose so he can pretend to be “censored” and play the martyr. For fuck’s sake Steele, you can’t even be an asshole creatively. Your teacher was right.

  26. ShadetheDruid

    According to the Urban Dictionary, “spic” is an anti-Hispanic/Latino slur.

  27. ShadetheDruid

    Oh, and he’s probably referring to Rutee’s use of “honkie”.

  28. And what slur did Rutee use?

  29. Argenti Aertheri

    indifferentsky — sorry about your father

    everyone — would you stop breaking the internet? This is why we can’t have nice things! (yeah, I know someone already said that, but it needs repeating)

    …testing hopefully that won’t make it worse <.>

  30. (David, my vote would be to fix. Even though, like your kittens, we’ll probably break shit again.)

    Steele, dude, stop being such a racist ass. Seriously, you’re getting more like Owly every day, and that’s not a good thing.

  31. Argenti Aertheri

    oi, not only did I not fix it, I fucked up my annoyed face, doube >.<

    And Rutee’s “slur” was, I think, calling Steele “dude” — see here — either that or it was “racist, misogynist” in the comment before that one. (Please let it be that calling him a racist was a slur that excuses him saying spic, that’s just deliciously ironic)

  32. Steele, just give up dude, Rutee isn’t going to be your kismesis. I know you’re all caliginous and all but it’s pathetic, just move on.

  33. Apparently Steele is taking the “I’ll show you racist!” approach to proving he isn’t racist.

    Abuser logic…

  34. Also: Why do our trolls always turn out to be racist, classist, and usually transphobic and homophobic too?

    Why can’t we ever have one that just hates women?

  35. Caliginous is my new favorite word. Thank you, Myoo!

  36. I’m sorry, excuse me? I would hope that the Boobzers read my previous post with the nuance it deserves; it is a somewhat “edgy” attempt at satire of the attitudes at Boobzland.

  37. ShadetheDruid

    Using big words that Steele has to look up is misandry!

  38. Argenti Aertheri

    w00t, David fixed the page!

    Cliff — they want bingo on every imaginable card? (In seriousness, I think bigots just flock to other bigots, increasing the overall bigotry)

  39. Argenti Aertheri

    “Oh, and he’s probably referring to Rutee’s use of “honkie”.”

    Where was that? I went back a few pages and only saw the comments I mentioned.

    He apparently was trying to be “edgy” by um…being racist. Yeah, it doesn’t work like that.

  40. I would hope that the Boobzers read my previous post with the nuance it deserves

    Yep. None.

  41. Heh heh, “nuance”. You’re adorable, Steeledude.

  42. @cloudiah
    It’s a Homestuck reference, but you’re welcome anyway :)

  43. Calling a woman by a racial slur: edgy nuance!
    Calling Steele “white dude”: SRS BUSINESS.

  44. ShadetheDruid

    Argenti: Might have been on the forum rather than the blog, he’s been poking around there after all.

  45. ‘racial slur’? That’d be honky, which is totes mcgotes just as bad as the n-word or spic. Oh hey he’s actually using spic, nice. And yeah, I plan to keep using it for effect, seeing as it’s basically the worst thing a white person can suffer for their status. Been pulled over for existing lately, Steele? XD

    And as studies have shown, the homeless are disproportionately men; “the poor” depends on how you define it.

    Well no, the single homeless are disproportionately men. I’m using “beneath the poverty line”. Also, I guess that makes you the misandrist, seeing as you hate the poor who you think are all men :D :D :D

  46. That’s ‘single homeless’ as opposed to ‘homeless with families’, which makes it ridiculously hard to tell because they aren’t really measured much at all. You can’t actually make pronouncements on the homeless as an aggregate because of it.

  47. Why do our trolls always turn out to be racist, classist, and usually transphobic and homophobic too?

    Because if you have the mentality that one group of people is worse than another group, then you probably think that about lots of groups.

  48. I have absolutely no ill feelings toward the poor, Rutee.

    I also believe that it’s likely I have been pulled over for existing; this is an example of subtle misandry.

    I perhaps should have placed the earlier satirical post into context more skillfully; nonetheless, I’m a big believer that one gets what one gives.

  49. Argenti Aertheri

    Shade — I think I’d blocked that he’s stalking the forums >.<

    Re: studying the homeless — that was actually the example used in my research methods course for when “snowballing” is appropriate. Normally you want to use random sampling, which means “tell your friends” is right out, but trying to sample people with little to no contact with formal systems (and who rarely have phones), makes “tell your friends” // “snowballing” an appropriate way to study homeless populations. Point here is that trying to study the homeless is hard enough to get special mention when discussing good research design. (And even “tell your friends” has issues because of self-selection, and self-selecting not to participate and thus understampling sub-populations who don’t choose to participate)

    The above is today’s random research method lesson :)

  50. I also believe that it’s likely I have been pulled over for existing; this is an example of subtle misandry.

    Yup, he’s racist.

  51. Argenti Aertheri

    *hed isplodes* Did Steele just claim he’s been pulled over for “driving while male”?!

    We need an anti-oppressive baby animal I think.

  52. Well, I’ve been pulled over for driving while female, so there!

    Also for rolling a stop.

  53. I have absolutely no ill feelings toward the poor, Rutee.

    Dude, you tried to mock people here for your perception that they are unemployed. Pull the other one, it plays Let Us Cling Together.

    I also believe that it’s likely I have been pulled over for existing; this is an example of subtle misandry.

    Hmhmhmhm.
    You haven’t, dude. You’re a honky dude who is allegedly middle class. Stop playing “Me Too!”, it just makes you even more pathetic XD

    I perhaps should have placed the earlier satirical post into context more skillfully; nonetheless, I’m a big believer that one gets what one gives.

    ‘satire’ doesn’t mean what you think it means, and good satire doesn’t punch down, as you did. Brown people are discriminated against on class, white people are not.

    If one ‘gets what one gives’, it’s going to be interesting to see what happens when you get trolled by someone who knows even less than you do (no mean feat on its own) XD

  54. I have absolutely no ill feelings toward the poor, Rutee.

    Right, that’s why you called unemployed people “losers”. Now, you could apologize instead of backpedaling, but that would require you to actually give a shit.

  55. I’m sorry, excuse me? I would hope that the Boobzers read my previous post with the nuance it deserves; it is a somewhat “edgy” attempt at satire of the attitudes at Boobzland.

    i cant decide what’s funnier about this post- claiming to be edgy juxtaposed with your usual pretentious, try-hard diction

    or the fact that youre such a dork you put edgy in scare quotes

  56. And not to put too fine a point on it, but I am in fact an unemployed man. So thanks for lookin’ out for me, you brave, virtuous activist you.

  57. I perhaps should have placed the earlier satirical post into context more skillfully; nonetheless, I’m a big believer that one gets what one gives.

    yeah, but that would have required skill, so it wasnt exactly an option

  58. Steele, let me tell you, as one white person to another, “honky” really isn’t all that offensive.

    Then again, I’m talking to someone who thinks that the word “dude” is offensive, so maybe the word “offensive” means something completely different in Steele’s world.

  59. Steele, Cliff said that it can be normal that the richest person pays more things to the other. You said the same fucking thing. You have literally zero reason to be mad.

    but but but MISANDRY!!!!!

    iirc ‘power lunch’ is like old-timey corporate speech for a working lunch with a bunch of important people, so… the idea of mikey posting during his ‘power lunch’ not only makes no sense, it once again shows his total inability to talk like someone his own age.

    That’s what I was thinking. Trolling manboobz on his power lunch made 0 sense to me.

    Also: Why do our trolls always turn out to be racist, classist, and usually transphobic and homophobic too? Why can’t we ever have one that just hates women?

    Because women are also black and poor and trans and gay sometimes?

    I’m sorry, excuse me? I would hope that the Boobzers read my previous post with the nuance it deserves; it is a somewhat “edgy” attempt at satire of the attitudes at Boobzland.

    Well your post has no nuance so there’s nothing to read into there; things that reinforce a harmful status quo are not edgy; satires only work if you DON’T hold the beliefs which the satire purports to uphold; and you have demonstrated repeatedly that you don’t understand any of the attitudes at Boobzland.

    So.

  60. Argenti Aertheri

    …wow…that’s a new way to break blockquotes, I’m impressed…

    Here, have some Enchant for your troubles —

  61. Aw, I broke the blockquotes :(

  62. CassandraSays

    If Mikey is posting on Manboobz during his power lunch (LOL), then he should be fired for wasting the time of everyone who he’s power lunching with.

    Mikey, satire is a rather advanced art. Learn to walk before you try the 100 meter hurdles.

  63. TL;DR: Steele is an idiot.

  64. Then again, I’m talking to someone who thinks that the word “dude” is offensive, so maybe the word “offensive” means something completely different in Steele’s world.

    mikey also believes in creep shaming, so assume he’s looking for reasons to be upset about language to fit his me-too agenda.

  65. Steelepole is a creepy honky dude.

  66. CassandraSays

    Excuse me? “Is” is misandry. Why do you think you have a right to say that Mikey is anything just because you’re a woman? Even if it’s something he’s told you that he is?

    Vile. bigots, etc.

  67. How long will it be until he insists that we say “h*nky?”

    /madethatexactsamejokelasttime

  68. Tulgey Logger

    Excuse me, but TIL: Steele thinks his posts deserve to be read with nuance.

    PS whataboutthemoonz—that broken blockquote pyramid is a work of art.

  69. Monsieur sans Nom

    Why can’t we ever have one that just hates women?

    You’ve got one right here, buddy. :-p

  70. Monsieur sans Nom

    I don’t find the word “honkey” to be offensive. It’s actually a pretty funny word.

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