Why do Men’s Rights Activists hate the heroes of the Aurora theater shooting?

Our old nemesis The Pigman — the MRA blogger and one half of the cartooning team responsible for atrocities like this — has some thoughts on the Aurora shootings, specifically on the men who lost their lives to protect their girlfriends from gunfire. Their heroism makes him angry, much like the fellows on The Spearhead we looked at the other day. Here’s his complaint:

How’s that for inequity? How’s that for disposability? These guys appear to have sacrificed themselves for these people primarily because of their sex.

Well, no, I think they sacrificed themselves for their girlfriends because they loved their girlfriends.

After all, where are the guys who jumped in front of their best mate, or their dad or brother? And above all, where are the women who died saving their boyfriends?

There were many heroes in the Aurora shooting. Jonathan Blunk, Matt McQuinn, and Alex Teves died protecting their girlfriends. Stephanie Davies risked her life to keep a friend shot in the neck from bleeding to death. Other acts of heroism had less storybook endings: Marcus Weaver tried to shield a female friend. He was wounded but lived; she died. Jennifer Seeger tried to drag a wounded victim to safety, but fled when the shooter returned.

But the Pigman is interested in none of this:

This isn’t heroism, this is male disposability at its worst and by praising it society is encouraging it.
Cheering these men’s actions is as reprehensible as it is stupid and discriminatory.

The heroes in Aurora acted quickly, and on instinct; they didn’t have time to stop to think. Is it possible that, in the cases of those men who tried to shield the women with them, gender socialization had something to do with what their instincts told them to do? Almost certainly.

But “male disposability” has nothing to do with it. We live in a society in which heroism, as an idea and as a cultural ideal, has been gendered male for thousands of years. In the stories we tell ourselves, the video games we play, the movies we watch (including The Dark Knight Rises) , the “hero with a thousand faces” is almost always male, and the damsel in distress is, well, almost always a damsel.

The Pigman ignores all this, instead attacking the three dead men as

foolish enough and unfortunate enough to fall for a lifetime of anti-male propaganda telling them to die for the nearest woman whenever the shit hits the fan.
Vaguely aware that he may have crossed a line here, the Pigman pauses for a moment:

I have no doubt that many are concerned with the feelings of the dead men’s survivors and wish I would just shut up.

But then he barrels ahead anyway:

But this is a simple case of “What you praise, you encourage,” and I for one think calling out those who encourage  men to waste their lives for people worth no more than themselves is more important than being “sensitive”. Die for a child if you must, die for some guy on the verge of finding a cure for cancer if you must – die for someone no better than you simply because you have been taught to and you are a fool.

Had these men died protecting male buddies, would The Pigman have applied this calculus of worthiness to the beneficiaries of their heroism? Would he have suggested that the dead men thought they were worth less than their friends? Of course not.

The three men didn’t do what they did because they thought they were worthless or disposable. They did what they did because they wanted to protect those they loved. Others in the theater, like Stephanie Davies, risked their lives for friends, or people they didn’t even know. There’s nothing foolish or “wasteful” about putting yourself on the line to protect others. In every major disaster, whether natural, or like this one man-made, ordinary people emerge as heroes precisely because they are willing to put the lives and safety of other people ahead of their own.

Do these real-life stories of heroism play out in gendered ways? Often times they do. Men may be more willing to risk their lives to protect their wives or girlfriends; mothers may be more willing to risk their lives to protect their children.

In real life crises, it’s hardly surprising that people sometimes act like characters in these stories we tell ourselves. If you want to change how people act, you need to change these stories.

MRAs like to pretend that men are the “disposable sex” but in their hearts they know that’s not true. They’re well aware, as are we all, that  our cultural narratives of heroism privilege and glorify men and put them at the center of almost every story. MRAs like The Pigman aren’t  interested in expan ding our cultural narratives of heroism to include female heroes — nor are they willing to even acknowledge that there are such things as female heroes in the real world. They certainly don’t want more stories, more games, more films featuring female protagonists.

Instead they’d rather wrap themselves in the mantle of victimhood, and attack real heroes like Jonathan Blunk, Matt McQuinn, and Alex Teves as “white knights” or “fools.”

How people react in a crises reveals a lot about them. How MRAs like The Pigman, and like the Spearhead commenters I quoted the other day reacted to the Aurora shootings has certainly revealed a lot about them, none of it good.

Unfortunately, attitudes like theirs aren’t confined to the fringe that is the manosphere.

After hearing the stories of Blunk, McQuinn, and Teves, the Wall Street Journal’s James Taranto tweeted “I hope the girls whose boyfriends died to save them were worthy of the sacrifice.”

After numerous readers responded to his remarks with outrage, Taranto offered an apology of sorts, along with an explanation that suggested he really didn’t understand why people were angry in the first place. When someone does something noble and heroic out of love, it’s not up to you to second guess their actions or their love. Taranto’s words not only dishonored “the the girls whose boyfriends died to save them;” it dishonored the heroes as well.

Like The Pigman, like the Spearhead commenters, Taranto has failed this test of his humanity.

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Posted on July 26, 2012, in misogyny, MRA, oppressed men, patriarchy, white knights. Bookmark the permalink. 856 Comments.

  1. Nikan, how is it that women can’t sympathize?

    Women do spend significant time periods living celibate in spite of the fact that they really want to get laid…

  2. @rutee

    Also, re: discrimination, I keep linking you these and you keep not responding

    do you think mikey knows any science besides the phrase ‘methodologically unsound’

    i mean he’s already proved he doesn’t know any academic speak besides ‘intellectually dishonest’ so why should this be any different?

  3. You are being a misogynist, though!
    [citation needed]

    I don’t expect that you understand this in the sense of empathize, that’s impossible for women born women

    QED.

    Also, you still know you’re a piece of shit, right?

  4. “you almost might say his obsession is… creepy”

    You vile Male-feminist!

  5. howardbann1ster

    Nikan: are you serious????

    You are being a misogynist, though!

    [citation needed]

    Yeah, you pretty much let that one out of the coop with your first post. Scramble all you like. And you say women can’t empathize with… being attracted to human beings whom they’re attracted to? Having a “T-fueled brain”? (science!!!)

    — I think I can fairly say, she’s very unattractive by any standard.

    …um, no, you can’t. Any standard? What about those self-proclaimed fat-chasers? Do you think fat is unattractive to men who find it attractive? ENGLISH, DO YOU SPEAK IT??

    (remember, science can explain all kinds of strange behavior we find in the biosphere).

    …can it explain your behavior?

  6. also, dude just never responds to counter-examples he doesnt like. i’d make a jab about him being ‘intellectually dishonest’ but in all honesty dumb, lazy, and spoiled is the more parsimonious explanation

  7. thebionicmommy

    Despite all of Boobzland’s ridiculous M-feminist posturing, some Boobzers have recently revealed that they expect men (those evil white men!) to continue to subsidize them, ironically, for energy to spend being misandrist.

    What if a man buys supper for a male manboobzer? Does the fact that it’s a man being treated cancel out the misandry of the other man paying for food? My husband earns the money to buy our family’s food, but I do all the meal planning, grocery shopping, cooking, and clean up. We’re both happy with the arrangement, so why does it bother you?

    Also, what if a man insists upon paying the bill, because he thinks it’s emasculating for the woman to pay? Should she sneak some money in his billfold to pay her way while protecting his ego?

    It’s about men, by default, being expected to subsidize women’s food intake.

    The nerve of some women, wanting food! How about the fact that it’s usually the woman who does all the gardening and canning? Does her work to provide food count for nothing because it doesn’t come with a paycheck?

  8. So, Ugh, tell me, then I must also be a misanthropist when I say that a human can’t empathize with a great white shark?

  9. @bionicmommy

    you post here but youre also married with kids, so by mikey’s warped rubric you dont exist and he doesnt have to account for you

  10. Steele. That would be like me saying that the lower life expectancy doesn’t exist because men make choices and sure there’s some societal pressure.

    While perhaps women are generally inclined to live a few years more than men; of course, most of the life expectancy gap is due to choice. Men take more risks. Men smoke and drink more. Men are generally under more pressure, more stress; they work more.

    All this is worth talking about; however, I wouldn’t call it misandry (there are plenty of other examples of actual misandry; read, Bane’s disposability).

  11. NIKAN YES MEN ARE TO WOMEN WHAT SHARKS ARE TO MEN THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE!

    Holy fuck there is a lot of cannibalism in your worldview.

  12. @howardbann1ster:

    Yeah, you pretty much let that one out of the coop with your first post.

    [citation needed]

  13. So, Ugh, tell me, then I must also be a misanthropist when I say that a human can’t empathize with a great white shark?

    i would like to know what it’s like inside your weird, robot head

  14. howardbann1ster

    So, Ugh, tell me, then I must also be a misanthropist when I say that a human can’t empathize with a great white shark?

    And… there’s no substantive difference between those two examples?

    Like, women are human beings? Y’know?

    You imply stuff like that, and then say citation needed on your misogyny? No.

  15. @Steele

    50 comments on Batman, none on the comparison of men to mindless sex-seeking cannibalism. Pretty much sums up your “activism,” doesn’t it?

  16. Nikan: If you didn’t want to, why did you do it?

    whataboutthemoonz: You do realize that you just said that a woman has inherently less value as a human being because of her disability, right?

    Nikan: I understand that this isn’t a nice thing to say, but still it’s the truth, which often is, you know, not very comfortable.

    That’s you saying disabled people are worth less than able-bodied people. Is it an absolute thing… disabled people are all “worth less than chimps”, or is it a slidig scale, where a missing hand isn’t as much of a devaluation as a missing penis?

    And that whole nonsense about how hard it is for a man to not get laid… men aren’t different from women in this regard. Women don’t like being abstinent either, if it’s because the people they want to have sex with aren’t interested.

    I don’t expect that you understand this in the sense of empathize, that’s impossible for women born women, but try to grasp it analytically, on an objective descriptive level

    I’m a guy. So… since I can’t agree with you (because really… it’s wrong), I don’t see (aside from the dismissive othering of the misogyny you are using in the course of your insulting men; as you mock the disabled STEELE THIS IS THE SORT OF ALLIES YOU HAVE!) any reason the women here are wrong when they say you are wrong.

    Honestly, that they can’t empathise with your lies, is to the good.

  17. do you think mikey knows any science besides the phrase ‘methodologically unsound’

    That’s rather the point, really.

  18. Nikan, sharks have nothing to do with this. Human beings, male and female are the SAME SPECIES!

    Not being able to sympathize with a being that is far enough separated as to not be a mammal is a ridiculous argument to make.

    Also, humans are able to sypathize with an astonishingly wide array of living creatures. Should I look down on you because you don’t understand what it is to be an ameoba?

  19. Although I would call you a misanthropist as you compared your brother having a relationship with a disabled woman to BEING FATALLY SHOT.

    I really can’t ask it enough, you know that any reasonable observer would say that you’re a complete piece of shit, right?

  20. thebionicmommy

    you post here but youre also married with kids, so by mikey’s warped rubric you dont exist and he doesnt have to account for you

    LOL, fair enough.

    Hey steeletroll, if you want women to earn more money and pay their way more, why aren’t you demanding more men to do their fair share on caregiving for small children and elderly parents?

  21. Wait, is this finally the evidence of systematic misandry we’ve all been waiting for Steele to provide? That the male villain in a movie with a male hero, where most of the characters are male, was “disposable”?

    But the ways that gender roles and patriarchy actually hurts men, those don’t fit into his definition of misandry at all?

    Really, Steele? This is stupid, even for you.

  22. While perhaps women are generally inclined to live a few years more than men; of course, most of the life expectancy gap is due to choice. Men take more risks. Men smoke and drink more. Men are generally under more pressure, more stress; they work more.

    Mikey

    http://www.soa.org/news-and-publications/publications/other-publications/monographs/m-li01-1-toc.aspx

    http://jerrymondo.tripod.com/lgev/id1.html

    Get dunked, get dunked, get dunked. Life expectancy differences between sexes is more then just environmental and social factors. Biology does have a greater role that you are purposefully understating.

    I called you out for the pseudo intellectual you are since day one, and you remain just that.

  23. a guy who always boasted to prefer the glamour model type, now has to settle for that.

    Sometimes our preferences change as we mature. For example, both me and my sister once thought we only liked guys taller than us. A bit unfair, perhaps, but we have very tall male friends and relatives in general, so it was also a matter of familiarity.
    Now, my sister’s dating a shorter guy, and she couldn’t be happier.
    Maybe it’s not so much settling as realizing the things you thought were important weren’t so important after all.

  24. howardbann1ster

    Citation needed, Nikan, really?

    Nikan | July 26, 2012 at 1:32 pm

    Well, no, I think they sacrificed themselves for their girlfriends because they loved their girlfriends.

    How could we ever know that?

    Oh, wait, you don’t see how that reveals you to be a nit-picking gender-essentialist who’s trying to pull down any heroics on the behalf of women, and how it shows a deep-seated hatred of women that becomes more apparent with every word you type?

    Odd. Everybody else can see it.

  25. @pecunium

    Ahh yes it is indeed a dutch principle to be skint about money in general and in business meetings and between friends everyone pays their own meal… I was more thinking dating-wise. It’s considered a sign of a relationship when one party, traditionally (aka old-fashioned way) the man but nowadays also the woman, pays the dinner. So it’s not particularly dutch to halve the bill on a romantic date, despite the saying. The dutch are not exempt to the traditional “dating rules” is what I was trying to say, or have not been until, you know, feminism. It’s certainly a modern custom to not expect sex for dinner, and split the bill on a date. Of course splitting the bill does not mean the romantic date will not involve sex nowadays. Seriously, I don’t get why the MRAs are not lining up to date feminist women who follow this clearly feminist-influenced custom of not exchanging food for sex, it seems like a win-win to them. But then again, maybe it’s better they remain clueless.

    That’s what my friends have educated me about dutch customs as part of my “integration”, so it may of course depend on the background of individuals somewhat. English as second language, btw, so if something I say is a bit unclear please let me know!

  26. Really Steel? I think that men dying younger and suffering more ill health is probably the best possible argument for male disposability. Men are pushed to eat imbalanced diets which results in long term ill health, often work in unsafe workspaces where employers don’t give a shit what happens, because its cheaper for them to pay insurance than to ensure proper safety standards, and are expected to be making more money than their wives even if it means men are cut off from their family and friends which help allieviate stress. And all of this is happening in a society that doesn’t do anything to commemorate the shit your average working Joe goes through. Nothing.

  27. While perhaps women are generally inclined to live a few years more than men; of course, most of the life expectancy gap is due to choice. Men take more risks. Men smoke and drink more. Men are generally under more pressure, more stress; they work more.

    lol. ‘why research anything when i can concoct a just-so story that explains it’

    more excuses from mikey.

  28. Ugh, the sense I get is that Nikan thinks dating someone disabled is worse than being shot. That whole *** thing, its like its some taboo that leaves you spiritually unclean or something.

    And wow Nikan, you really are a piece of work.

  29. I will never understand how the MRAs cannot see that the very things they observe hurting men (MISANDRY!!1) are the other side of the coin that is hurting women. It’s really quite frustrating to see some half-decent concerns get smothered with the inane verbal diarrhea of misogyny, and imagined or minor slights experienced by insecure young guys getting blown out of proportion because of unrealistic expectations on themselves and others… I’ve not read the “red pillers'” fora enough to lose what little naivety I have left, I guess, to still feel this way. I keep hoping they’d earnestly engage in discussion without the hatred to help fixing everyone’s problems.

    /random rant

  30. howardbann1ster

    Eline…. the only thing that gives me any hope, some days, is that I wasn’t too, too far from their way of thinking, not so long ago. People can change, and for the better. Just because they’re in a cesspool doesn’t mean they can’t climb out.

  31. @eline

    I think the main thing I’ve learned commenting here is that MRAs are part of the movement because of the hatred, not in spite of it. I used to think, “Hey! Maybe if I argue with citations and point out the contradictions in their arguments they’ll realize that they can help men without hating women!” But it’s just not the case.

    Pretty much every MRA who comes here to argue eventually shows their hateful side. All their contradictions, their talking in circles, etc, is just a smokescreen. They know why they’re in a movement that they have to constantly lie about and pull “no True Scotsman” on, and it’s not because they’re concerned about men as a whole.

  32. I mean, you can make the argument that people are raised in a sexist society and started adulthood with some weird views, I know I was one, but if someone is like “I’ve been an MRA for ten years” it’s pretty clear what’s going on.

  33. Eline, I’m right there with you.

    I’ve seen the top ten items that the MRM are working on, and I think many of the issues DO need to be worked on and that society needs to be made aware of them.

    Some of the MRM problem stems from having more conservative men wanting to “go back to simpler days” that really reflects the 1950’s ideal, but doesn’t reflect the actual experience of the time period.

    Some of it stems from men who have experienced geniune horror and shit and its the only place they have to vent.

    And a large part of the movement stems from abusive types who want to spread their poison so its easier for them to hide their shittiness.

  34. Howard, if you don’t mind my asking, what pulled you out?

  35. Nikan: So, Ugh, tell me, then I must also be a misanthropist when I say that a human can’t empathize with a great white shark?

    No. Just stupid.

    Unless you are saying men and women are different species, as with human beings and slime molds (though there are some examples of the former who seem less pleasant than the latter).

    If that’s what you are arguing, then it’s more than just stupid, it’s stupid of so pure and refined a form that the powers of credulity are strained, and the better answer is that you are trying to change the subject because your previous position is completely untenable, and you hope (as with waving a cape a bull) that you can distract us.

    Disabled people are not worth less than the presently able-bodied.

  36. eline: No worries. I’m not dutch, so my understandings are at a remove, and I was sharing them/looking for clarification.

  37. howardbann1ster

    @Ugh: I totally agree with you. I was saying on the other thread, I have a cut-off line. If a person is willing to engage–I mean, even in a tiny way–I’ll cut them a little slack.

    I end up engaging trolls. Because they pretend.

    Steele threw a fit when Tom Martin crossed a line so obvious he could see it. And I kind of smiled a little and nodded, because that’s point.

    Make those lines visible. Call them out.

    If they can be horrified by the hate, if they care at all about things like actual decency, they can be reached.

    Which comes around to the question of what pulled me out.

    A series on the Yes Means Yes blog was my turning point, actually. A series on Rape Culture. I started out completely unconvinced, but it became obvious in a real hurry that real people were being hurt in a real way.

    Anybody who still has the decency to get to the end of that sentence and say, well, that’s wrong. Nobody should be abused and exploited like that, that’s a person who can be deprogrammed.

  38. @howard

    That’s a good point. It’s hard to tell the difference between the people who are actually hateful and the ones who just haven’t thought it through. I think the line is when they’re confronted by an actual contradiction in their beliefs and refuse to address it. Unfortunately, you generally have to play the talking in circles game for a while before you can actuallly get them to stand by any beliefs.

  39. @howard

    And, pessimistic as I am about it, a part of me does hope that Varpole, on some level, realizes that he’s in a hate movement and that hate is wrong. And that the reason he writes pages of ridiculous crap while ignoring the insanely man-hating responses of his allies is because his position has nothing to do with reality.

  40. howardbann1ster

    @Ugh

    Yep. It’s pretty well impossible to avoid wasting your time in this pursuit… but I spent more than enough time as a jack-booted enforcer of the patriarchy. I owe back some time to try to show them the way out.

  41. I’d say he’s firmly in the “I CAN’T HEAR YOU!” frame of mind. If he ignores it, maybe it will go away.

    He’s conflicted, because he wants to get us to agree with him too; so he has to make more of the same sorts of stupid arguments, and then get taken to school again; which he has to pretend isn’t happening.

    Eventually he will change his mind, or leave, or end up like Eoghan, or NWO, or Nikan, or Tom Martin.

  42. Imagine a world without public sector jobs, without government. What would you do?

    Go for the chainsaw. It’s the only way to win Thunderdome.

    All I wanted was to give you a vivid example of the desperation a T-fueled brain experiences after a few years of celibacy: a guy who always boasted to prefer the glamour model type, now has to settle for that.

    Oh, that poor man! Dating a non-model! Why must men suffer so? WHY, WORLD, WHYYYY????

    Hee hee…you’re jealous of him, aren’t you?

  43. This is why we were so accommodating towards Mister Al, because he (occasionally) recognised when his notional allies had overstepped the mark and had the courage to call them out over it. I forget the exact incident, but I do remember him explicitly distancing himself from Paul Elam.

    Which is why it’s a real shame that he carried on down the same pointlessly self-destructive road, because he seemed bright enough and young enough to grasp just how much damage it was doing to himself.

  44. Hell, I still have a lot to learn, and I left the MRM something like 8 months ago. I think, I’m not really good at judging time.

  45. And why have you chosen to leave the MRM behind aworldanonymous?

  46. I’m reading Lynn Peril’s Swimming in the Steno Pool, which has some good background on the history of secretarial work. In the 19th century, white-collar offices were all-male and secretaries and clerks were men; the jobs didn’t pay well but were seen as a step up the ladder to an eventual executive position.

    Starting in the post-Civil War economic depression, government offices, then businesses, started hiring women as secretaries because you could pay them half as much and never promote them. The increase in female secretaries coincided with the invention of the typewriter, and women soon dominated typing jobs (which, in the early days, were often done from home, in the same way women used to “take in” sewing and laundry). Because typing was women’s work from the start, it was always seen as feminine and menial; women were said to be good typists because of their small fingers, not because they had valuable technical skills or anything. By the 1930s, secretarial jobs were almost entirely female.

  47. And why have you chosen to leave the MRM behind aworldanonymous?

    Throughout my life I’ve basically devoted my worldview to making decisions and adopting viewpoints based on what lines up best with reality, and what offers up the least spite towards my fellow human beings. Even when I was with the MRM I honestly didn’t hate women, I just bought into the whole “feminism has led to the pendulum swinging too far in the other direction” thing. I left after some serious introspection and analysis of my beliefs, I felt that the MRM, while attempting to raise some important points about mens issues, was going about things entirely the wrong way. Then I actually did some research about what feminism is really about, and found that it lined up far better with my underlying beliefs than “masculism” did. I’m not claiming to be perfect yet, but then again who is, but I do think I’ve learned quite a bit since high school.

  48. Hell, I still have a lot to learn, and I left the MRM something like 8 months ago. I think, I’m not really good at judging time.

    Sorry if this is rude but were you really part of the mrm? I recall in another thread you just say you blamed other people for your problems not even specifically women. Being a misogynist/blaming women and people for your problems is not really what a mra is (those attitude definitely crossover into the mrm though). I would consider someone a mra only if they read or contributed to those comms online and believed what they wrote.

    Sorry if I am wrong here but I think you are being over harsh on yourself, blaming other people for your issues is pretty common especially when you are younger. XD

  49. Ahh okay nvm I just read your comment above.

  50. High school was a confusing time for me to say the least, I was bullied a lot, I felt pressured to have a girlfriend, and when I didn’t I fell down the “Nice Guy” hole and started to blame women for it. In my bitterness I came across the MRM, and while I don’t recall being a particularily active member, I was very passionate about what it stood for. I also remember that I mostly saw it not as a counterpoint to feminism, but as an alternative based around focusing on mens issues. When I actually got around to researching feminism, I found that it had a much more focused and organized way of not only solving most of the trivial issues that men face, but attempting to work things out so that everyone can be happy.

  51. Well good thing you got out of it at least. @_@

    I know mras are not very supportive of their members unfortunately.

  52. @howardbann1ster:

    Oh, wait, you don’t see how that reveals you to be a nit-picking gender-essentialist who’s trying to pull down any heroics on the behalf of women, and how it shows a deep-seated hatred of women that becomes more apparent with every word you type?

    Odd. Everybody else can see it.

    Oh, genderist rage… Really, I don’t see it. When I suggest, that they might not be saved because of “love”, that may be not nice, but there’s not a hint of hatred towards women in that.

    @pillowinhell:

    Nikan, sharks have nothing to do with this. Human beings, male and female are the SAME SPECIES!

    Not being able to sympathize with a being that is far enough separated as to not be a mammal is a ridiculous argument to make.

    That wasn’t an argument, that was an example. I tell you that I’m absolutely not able to empathize with someone who is so desperately “driven” he has to **** that poor disabled woman instead of leaving her alone. I would conceive it as misogynist, if someone suggested I was able to.

  53. @Nikan

    Does this woman want to be left alone? If yes, you’re an even bigger piece of shit than I thought for not fucking calling the cops.

  54. Like seriously, if you know a serial rapist, for fuck’s sake dial 911 right now!

  55. howardbann1ster

    Oh, genderist rage… Really, I don’t see it. When I suggest, that they might not be saved because of “love”, that may be not nice, but there’s not a hint of hatred towards women in that.

    Oh, you are funny! Do you have to practice for punchlines like that?

  56. There are ten kinds of fucked up in that statement. If she’s just a warm hole, yeah, that’s fucked up and misogynistic. If you or your brother only value women for sex or sexy traits, that’s also misogynistic.

    Your enytire perspective is seriously fucked. You do realize that your hand or a good sex toy can allieviate that “testosterone poisoning” right? That women aren’t a cure all for men with a screwed up view of sex?

  57. Oh, you are funny! Do you have to practice for punchlines like that?

    Sorry, I think you’re suppar and trying to hard. Were you an MRA in your “last life”?

    Anyway, so where did I say anything misogynist? The question still stands.

  58. @Nikan

    IS YOUR BROTHER RAPING A DISABLED WOMAN?

    IF SO WHY ARE YOU POSTING RATHER THAN CALLING THE POLICE RIGHT NOW.

  59. I’m waiting for Sharculese…

  60. @Nikan

    IS YOUR BROTHER RAPING A DISABLED WOMAN?

    IF SO WHY ARE YOU POSTING RATHER THAN CALLING THE POLICE RIGHT NOW.

    I’m going to keep posting until I get an answer on this.

  61. @pillowinhell:

    Your enytire perspective is seriously fucked. You do realize that your hand or a good sex toy can allieviate that “testosterone poisoning” right?

    And what’s your evidence for that?

    @Ugh:

    IS YOUR BROTHER RAPING A DISABLED WOMAN?

    No, what they do is consensual.

  62. Oh thank fucking God.

  63. I’m waiting for Sharculese…

    my internet was down, what do you need, creepo

  64. Of course, you’re still a total asshole for comparing your brother’s consensual, non-abusive relationship with being shot dead.

    But I’m glad you’re not an accessory to rape.

  65. Nikan, you’re the one saying your bro is suffering from too much testosterone due to lack of sex.

    Toys or palms give pleasure too. Enough to give relief.

  66. Ugh, that’s a pretty low fucking bar. I’m just hoping his brother isn’t an asshat and its projection on Nikans part.

  67. Anyone else find themselves hoping that Nikans bro straightens him out (assuming that bro is a decent man)?

  68. @pillowinhell:

    Toys or palms give pleasure too. Enough to give relief.

    Waiting for the evidence…

  69. is robot boy asking us to explain jerking off to him?

  70. i guess i just cant understand what its like to j/o a great white shark… or whatever

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