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Men’s Liber-urination: How installing home urinals will save the world from misandry

Men’s Liberation starts here!

What’s the deal with MRAs and urinals? You may recall the highly touted “URLs @ urinals” campaign from last year, a plan to plaster little posters over urinals in public bathrooms to lure peeing men to Men’s Rights websites; evidently the way to a man’s heart is through his urethra?

Then there was that big to-do in the Men’s Rights subreddit when a Canadian restauranteur removed a urinal shaped like a woman’s lips after some feminists complained about it.

Oh, and who can forget GirlWritesWhat’s weird FemRA lament that men hanging out in men’s bathrooms can’t even bitch about women any more due the encroachment of evil mangina language police. (Note: Men in public bathrooms do not actually talk to one another.)

Well, now the MRA videoblogger who goes by the nom-de-internet of ManWomanMyth has weighed in on the Urinal Problem in a long and rambling blog post titled, and I am not making this up, “Urinals – a genesis for male psychology?”

MWM (let’s just call him that) argues that “male spaces” have been so encroached upon by evil feminists that men have no place they can truly call their own.

Why are female spaces inviolate and male spaces forcibly opened to females?

Why are males spaces not seen to be equally as important as female spaces?

I’ll tell you why, it’s because under our Feminist governance, anything that maintains or leads to any concept of male camaraderie or the enhancement of male self-awareness is actively attacked and suppressed. It’s vital in our society to strip men of their identity as ‘men’ so that they can be assaulted in the myriad ways. …

By preventing the development of male-bonding and understanding between men (which is difficult enough, even under the best of circumstances) men are successfully kept isolated from each other and more easily used and abused.

Seriously, he’s got a point here. If you look at the various photos of corporate Boards of Directors I gathered together in this old post, you’ll notice that a couple of them even have some ladies in them!

So what does this have to do with urinals? MWM explains:

This is where urinals-in-the-home comes in. …

By installing one in your home, what I think is being done is making a claim to a portion of space and making that claim based solely on the fact of your manhood.

Only men can successfully stand up to pee, women have no choice but to sit down. This is a point of difference that has little relevance in normal daily life, but has every relevance to male psychology.

You see, the urinal is just for you as a man. It’s impossible for her to use it. It’s for you. For your son. For your male friends.

In other words, MWM thinks that men (cis men, anyway) should have them installed in their bathrooms for no other reason than that (cis) woman can’t use them. In your face, bitches! Try peeing in THIS! YOU CAN’T!!

Though I should note that this does not stop women from trying, as this album cover from the 1970s clearly documents:

MWM goes on to explain the logic behind this new crusade:

There is no means by which the exclusive use of the urinal can be taken away from you by any claims of unfairness or any other irrational female claim.

There can be no quotas for the female use of urinals; there can be no Presidential Council for Women and Girls calling for more ‘Women into Urinals’; the UK Minister for Women could create no tax-payer funded programme to encourage girls to be the same as men and use urinals.

It’s yours because you are male and can only remain yours.

Now you might ask yourself, why the fuck would anyone care about this? MWM has an answer to that question as well:

Why is this important?

I think that this is an example of a beginning, a genesis for male self-awareness. Particularly if you have a young boy in the household. It could well be the first thing and perhaps even the only thing he will ever encounter in his young life that is not ‘equally’ open to girls and there is no ‘equalities’ agency that can do anything about it.

Most boys grow up today having to play every sport and share every activity with girls and woe betide him if he seeks to win or is too aggressive. …

The urinal could be the only thing in his life that is for him and exclusively for him and others who are like him in only one essential way: they are also male. …

This is a little space in the bathroom, a little space in his life, where his sister can’t go and doesn’t want to go and couldn’t go if she did want to. It’s off limits because she is not male. …

A urinal is not particularity interesting in itself, but it may well be a first step in the development of a sense of self for boys and men that otherwise typically never happens or else is savagely crushed in men. A catalyst towards a sense of what it means to be male and a first seed of understanding of the essential difference between the sexes which goes beyond mere anatomy. …

This is where anti-misandry starts.

While all this is very moving, I don’t think it goes far enough. Consider the Home Pregnancy Test. This is something that woman can pee on, but men can’t – at least not without being ridiculed by society for peeing on such a girly thing.

Wait, you might say. If (cis) men get urinals to pee on, why can’t (cis) women have these little sticks that they can pee on? Because these pregnancy tests involve little chemical strips that CHANGE COLOR when you pee on them, depending on whether or not you’re pregnant. Urinals don’t change color! And that’s not FAIR!

STICKS FOR DICKS!

Now THAT’S where anti-misandry really starts!

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Posted on July 21, 2012, in actual activism, antifeminism, FemRAs, I'm totally being sarcastic, misogyny, MRA, oppressed men, penises, precious bodily fluids, urinals. Bookmark the permalink. 148 Comments.

  1. Because, PRIORITIES.

    …*kfslkdfsdfjsldfj* I just spit coffee. :D Thanks.

  2. Hahaha! Whew. I have a male friend who had a female friend who insisted that the men (husband and son) she lived with SIT DOWN to pee. Why? Because it caused less clean-up for her. When my friend asked me what I thought, I at first was all “Whoa! Making men sit down to pee?” But then when I thought about it, it seemed kinda arbitrary to say that men should stand up to pee. I mean, I assume the men who live in/visit my home will stand up, but where is it written? When we toilet-train our sons, usually we start with sitting down to pee, as they aren’t tall enough to hit the toilet water if they’re standing up.

    Also … women do stand up to pee sometimes:

    http://nataliehartford.com/2012/02/21/women-peeing-standing-up-amen-to-that/

    Damn! Is nothing sacred any more??!

  3. I wonder if MWM ever got the news that female urinals exist. They’re not common because you still have to pull your pants down, but they do exist.

    And the notion that every male space has been invaded by women is rediculous. Aren’t organized sports for kids still divided up by gender? Even if it’s just school PE, your son might have to play against girls, but I really doubt they have co-ed locker rooms now.

  4. Except your (presumably cis) wife can totally use it if she wants. Has he ever heard of an STP (stand to pee device)? You can even make them at home!

  5. You can also buy a flesh light. It’s way cheaper than a urinal and it’s also penis only.

  6. A purported (can’t speak for its accuracy) history of the urinal:

    http://yimengchang.blogspot.com/2009/03/history-of-urinal.html

  7. I do field work in often very cold locations. I have a device I use that lets me pee standing up because I hate being cold.

    So, uhhh… Theory blown.

  8. If someone tells this dude about Stand-To-Pee devices he’s going to start frothing at the mouth.

  9. Can I just say, I really really don’t understand men who are obsessed with standing up to pee? I mean I get it in public restrooms, those things are gross and *nobody* wants to sit down if at all possible. But at home? Where the toilets are clean? It’s not actually that hard to pull down your pants and just sit down. In fact, I’m pretty sure it takes me exactly the same amount of time as to do it standing up. When you add to that there’s no chance of a mess and it’s more comfortable, I personally just sit down at home… it’s just more practical.

    When did standing up to pee become an identification thing anyway?

  10. Why do they get so mad about equality and then act like not letting men have male-domination is “misandry”? It’s one thing if men were forced to pee in the street while women used gold toilets emblazoned with the faces of the (male) presidents and wiped their asses on cock-print toilet paper, but this is not the case. A toilet is a multi-purpose thing- you can use it to sit on it and read magazines, you can pee, you can poop, you can vomit, you can even use it to wash out diapers. Toilets are great for many things! So isn’t it MISOGYNY if someone is doing something SPECIFICALLY to disinclude people who pee sitting down (there are guys who do it too, ya know) because “women suck and have cooties and shit”?

    I thought we figured out that this was stupid back in the second grade. Guess I was wrong.

    Leave it to MRAs to be discriminatory and hate on women and insist it is their “right” because not being accepted for being a douchebag misogynist is MISANDRY, amirite?

    Nope, you don’t get a free pass for being an asshole just because you have a penis.

  11. creativewritingstudent

    Pressing issues affecting the men of today, people!

  12. ShadetheDruid

    Why not just dig a hole in the back garden? I can guarantee no one else will want to infringe on their “right” to have a man-only space then.

  13. Why do they get so mad about equality and then act like not letting stallions have male-domination is “misandry”?

    They feel that their manly manhood is being encroached upon by the icky females, that they won’t be able to grow up to be construction working lumberjacks who hunt for their food, without a woman there telling them they have to eat a balanced diet.

  14. Now I want a stp device to go hiking. Peeing without a bush or a tree to hide (because of altitude) is a pain in the ass.

  15. It is entirely possible for a woman to pee in a male urinal. Like, super easy…

  16. David K. Meller

    Why not custom-tailored urinals where the face of your most notorious feminist womanbeinghateful is painted onto the surface where you can aim, every time you unrinate. You can relieve yourself and vent your anger at castrating manhaters at the same time!

    Tell me there is no market for this!
    You want “misogyny”? Here is misogyny!

    T

  17. I have found that the men who are the most insecure about their masculinity are men who generally think that their masculinity hangs on a tenuous string that relies heavily on stereotypical gender roles, mostly because they hate anyone who doesn’t fall into those roles. Little did they know that you can’t stop being a guy if you like a pink shirt or enjoy making cupcakes. Your gender is not directly linked to your hobbies and style.

    Case in point: http://memegenerator.net/instance/23783079

  18. I love this, because ManWomanMyth is a guy MRAs love to point to as a shining example of one of the Manosphere’s intellectual & philosophical heavyweights.

    Ha.

    (I sit down to pee because I don’t like mopping).

  19. You see, the urinal is just for you as a man. It’s impossible for her to use it. It’s for you. For your son. For your male friends.

    It’s your money. If you have enough money and space to waste on the remodelling work just to exclude the non-dudes, in your own home, I really couldn’t care less.

  20. Argenti Aertheri

    Why don’t they just build “man caves” and only put urinals in their “man cave” bathrooms? Then when they need to shit they can um…go use their wife’s bathroom…oh wait…

    But yeah, sure, if they’ve got the space, and the money, to put in a urinal, have fun with that I guess?

  21. Ok, here’s the thing- if you want your own urinal, you have to clean it regularly, by yourself, since only you use it. And you have to install it with your own money and time. And if you’re honestly so obsessed with hating on women, perhaps you shouldn’t live with a woman at all! Then all of us will be happy!

  22. @Argenti- but what about if they need to take a Big Manly Poop? Pretty much every man I have ever talked to has expressed incredibly frustration at the asshole who poops in the urinal. So yeah. It’s just kind of impractical. It may make sense in a public restroom when there a ton of men in and out just going pee because it’s faster, but it doesn’t make a lot of sense in a household where there might be on average maybe two men living there. And then there’s the “urinal trough” that you might have seen at Boy Scout camp (I know, I saw them because the Girl Scouts rent Boy Scout camps when they’re not in use by Boy Scouts). Might as well just pee in the tub!

  23. what I think is being done is making a claim to a portion of space and making that claim based solely on the fact of your manhood.

    That’s actually how most of history can be summed up!

    Anyway, the little white dome urinals: are they just a USian thing or what? I’ve never once seen one, and I’m not public-toilet averse. I’ve seen metal troughs mostly, with a few raised individual troughs, if that makes sense.

  24. What’s the bet that this is a home-urinal manufacturer who’s just figured out the “raging misogynists” market anyway? Not likely, but “blind capitalist greed preying on sexists” actually seems preferable to “people actually think that buying urinals is some sort of revolutionary action standing up (literally) for The Menz”.

  25. From some quick googling, home urinals are only really being sold as “manly novelty” and “water-saving device”, and some of them actually looks pretty cool, though I can’t help but think that maybe the amount of water used installing/making/shipping the home urinal is going to be greater than the amount saved using it unless you’ve got a lot of dudes in your house and/or have it a really long time.

  26. Argenti Aertheri

    Nanasha — that was the point — they can install all the urinals they like, they’re still going to need a toilet.

  27. I gotta say, I found this dumb but kind of pleasant. Home urinals. Sure. Why not? My parents swear by not sharing a bathroom and they’ve been married for 38 years. If you can spare the space and afford the installation – knock yourselves out dudes.

    Home urinals.

    Dig it.

  28. I had a friend growing up that was a straight A honour student who became an engineer. Her brother was a barely average student who had to go to a school for disciplinarian problems. Still, the sun, the moon and the stars revolved around the boy, despite being a liar, thief and bully. She had to beg for parental approval.

    I just cringe at the mentioned father who has a urinal installed for his son because of misandry. You’d hope that the daughter would be treated with all the love and affection despite her brother “needing” a place his sister can’t use, but I kind of doubt it.

  29. Lowquacks – I’d think the most water-efficient thing to do is just pee down the shower drain.

  30. CassandraSays

    This is the not a post that would be created by an actual human rights movement. This is a about a childish, petty desire to feel superior to half the human race just because you have a cock and that makes you special.

    “When did standing up to pee become an identification thing anyway?”

    I also would like an answer to this question. I mean, if for whatever reason a particular man prefers that then cool, go for it, but when people make it a core part of their identity it makes them sound like toddlers.

  31. CassandraSays

    Thanks for illustrating the “sounds like a toddler” part, Meller. When there’s a tantrum to be thrown we can always count on you.

  32. @Argenti- but what about if they need to take a Big Manly Poop? Pretty much every man I have ever talked to has expressed incredibly frustration at the asshole who poops in the urinal. So yeah. It’s just kind of impractical. It may make sense in a public restroom when there a ton of men in and out just going pee because it’s faster, but it doesn’t make a lot of sense in a household where there might be on average maybe two men living there.

    @Nanasha: It is my personal experience that men most worried about being oppressed by the mere presence of women are those who have never had to clean a bathroom. It is not that they even feel entitled to have a woman clean it; they have no concept of cleaning up, things just sorta take care of themselves for them, as they always have. Notice how none of the quoted rant about urinals being exclusionary mentions the cleaning part. I think those guys simply assume that no matter what happens, their mom/wife/girlfriend will take care of the mess. Hence they aren’t worried about such girly things as to whether a particular receptacle is “practical” for pooping. He is a manly man, and will poop in a pasta bowl if he damned well pleases; it’s for the bitchez to suck it up and deal with it.

  33. “Seriously, he’s got a point here. If you look at the various photos of corporate Boards of Directors I gathered together in this old post, you’ll notice that a couple of them even have some ladies in them!”

    I get the impression that if you showed ManWomanMyth a board of directors with twenty members, and three of them were women, that would mean that somewhere out there were three men who had been FORCIBLY REMOVED from their RIGHTFUL PLACE.

    But seriously, it’s your house, put whatever you want in it, I guess? At least a spite urinal isn’t actually hurting anyone.

  34. Estraven:

    I have a male friend who had a female friend who insisted that the men (husband and son) she lived with SIT DOWN to pee. Why? Because it caused less clean-up for her.

    To whom did it not occur that if he’s the one getting piss on the toilet he should be cleaning up after himself like a goddamn adult?

  35. thebewilderness

    I have a suspicion that MWM flunked kindergarten.

  36. Women can pee standing up, if we use our hands to aim like guys do. Watch The Full Monty; a woman demonstrates in that movie.

    Also, if a guy is pissing all over the toilet bowl, the lid, and the floor, then damn straight he should be in charge of cleaning up the bathroom. My step-father has this problem. Seriously, I swear he must wave his dick around as he pees, because there isn’t a spot on the toilet that doesn’t get piss on it. Under the lid, around the bowl, behind the bowl, on the floor, etc.

  37. Argenti Aertheri

    “I have a suspicion that MWM flunked kindergarten.”

    Hey now, my brother flunked kindergarten! (Dude thought “LMNOP” was one letter)

    He may not be the sharpest knife in the drawer, but he’s nowhere near the level of assholery that makes up the MRM.

  38. @DKM

    Do you piss on your dolls when they misbehave?

  39. thebionicmommy

    A urinal only requires half of a gallon of water per flush, while even a high efficiency toilet needs about 1.5 gallons of water per flush. An older, large toilet uses about 3.5 gallons of water per flush. Depending on where you live, if you’re in the US, your water probably costs about one half to one cent per gallon.

    In order to figure out how much water you would save having a urinal in your house, you would have to figure out how many times a person with a penis pees and flushes daily, on average. If you have a lot of men in your home, you might save up to ten cents a day or more having them pee in a urinal rather than a toilet. Even then, it would take at several years to pay for the cost of buying a urinal, which costs about $150 from a big box home improvement store. I don’t know how much a plumber would charge for the installation, but it would probably be very expensive to add another pipe to a bathroom, especially since you’d have to cut drywall or plaster to do the work. I am just guessing here, but I think it would only be practical to do something like this if you are building a home from scratch or you are already remodeling a bathroom.

    Then again, I guess MRA’s can spare no expense to have a urinal in their home if it might send the message that women are icky.

  40. Argenti Aertheri

    thebionicmommy — idk on the plumbing costs, but urinals are usually wall mounted, meaning the wall studs have the be strong enough to hold the urinal. So yeah, it’d really only be practical if the bathroom either wasn’t finished yet, or was being remodeled anyways.

  41. thebionicmommy

    @Argenti Aertheri, yeah I almost forgot they have to be wall mounted, so even if there were exposed pipes for the plumbing hookup, the person installing the urinal would have to cut drywall to find the studs. In theory, they could use a stud finder, but stud finders don’t work for crap. I buy them at garage sales anyways, so that my kids can pretend they are Star Trek tricorders.

    With my luck, the only way I can reliably find a wall stud is by trying to drill a hole to use wall anchors.

  42. Argenti Aertheri

    thebionicmommy — it isn’t your luck, those things really don’t work. They’re just magnets basically, so every lost screw in the wall sets them off just as much as a stud does. Little trick for finding studs — drill a hole down low (you can remove the base board and drill behind it if you want a truly hidden hole), and then bend a coat hanger through it until it hits a stud, remove coat hanger, measure it.

    “I buy them at garage sales anyways, so that my kids can pretend they are Star Trek tricorders.” — D’AWW

  43. If I wasn’t afraid of these tools before, I am now.

  44. This guy is going to get really upset when he hears about the bidet. There won’t be room in his little toilet to fit all this stuff.
    People invent things for practical reasons and not to oppress anyone.WC’s have only been around since he 1800’s and urinals didn’t exist. Men would generally just piss outside in certain locations if they were in a city and it was just a trough at most. People likely began using urinals because it was this new novel sanitary invention rather than having certain areas stinking of piss. Hoover didn’t install one of these new devices off the Oval office for any reason other than practicality since probably 99% of the people there were men. The White House hosts all different functions and dinners where there are women so I’m sure they had more than one toilet.
    I never realized that the sort of plumbing that you install in your house was such a burning issue :)

  45. thebionicmommy

    — drill a hole down low (you can remove the base board and drill behind it if you want a truly hidden hole), and then bend a coat hanger through it until it hits a stud, remove coat hanger, measure it.

    That’s a great idea. It’s so simple, yet I would never think of it. I probably would just drill the tiny hole without moving the baseboard. It’s easier for me to just patch up the hole with joint compound.

    Not only do I have fun mocking misogyny here, I also get great home improvement tips. :-)

  46. Argenti Aertheri

    Man Boobz, come for the mockery, stay for the fandom, cooking tips, quantum physics, home improvement tips… :)

    I’m sure I’m missing things there too, we should maybe shorten that to — Man Boobz, come for the mockery, stay for the awesome.

  47. ShadetheDruid

    I am shocked, shocked, that you would forget “kitty pictures”. :P

  48. Argenti Aertheri

    Shade — …I have no excuse, none at all, the kitties are awesome.

  49. thebewilderness

    If there is a light switch or electrical outlet on the wall you can take off the cover to see which side the stud is and do the measuring thing to locate the rest of them on that wall. Not foolproof but fairly reliable.

  50. Mommy-why not just get a urinal that has a base on the floor. Then there would be no need for any real support on the wall.

  51. creativewritingstudent

    I used a stud finder once, but I could only locate geldings.

  52. Geldings? So you want to castrate men too you misandrist!

  53. tentacledancer

    Urinals are really quite gross if they aren’t cleaned regularly. Way worse than regular toilets. What an impractical way to show your manhood.

  54. Argenti Aertheri

    creativewritingstudent — pun-y, though that was apparently lost on JeanM (either that or JeanM is trying to make a funny and failing in comparison)

    afaik the in floor urinals require the floor to be redone, or not yet installed, you can’t lower the urinal below the level of the finished floor. Even if they sit atop the finished floor though, they’d still need wall support and 18″+ of wall space (on a plumbed wall).

  55. CassandraSays

    …Do urinals not get cleaned? In public bathrooms, I mean.

  56. As previously mentioned women can learn to stand to pee, not everyone can do it due to anatomy issues but a lot of women (including trans women who have had lower surgery and also anybody with FAAB-style anatomy) can. You can learn to do it here: http://ganimede.transboys.info/stp.html

    In some parts of the world women standing is the norm. My one friend’s mom, who grew up in rural Mexico, did it all the time when she was younger. Apparently this is also the norm in some areas of Africa and Southeast Asia and possibly in various places in antiquity.

    Men standing to pee isn’t universal either, in a lot of places it’s normal for both genders to squat while doing any sort of elimination. If I remember correctly Muslim men are usually taught to pee sitting because it’s considered unclean to do it the other way.

  57. It’s funny that today’s main post is about peeing- my daughter is finally almost completely potty trained and as far as I’m concerned, It’s a lot easier to train a little boy to pee in a public toilet- just put down a liner on the seat, have him stand up on the lid, and point his penis into the toilet. Because my daughter has to sit to pee (otherwise that little kid butt flops right into the full size toilet!), I have to come armed with wipes and lysol to wipe down most public toilets so she can sit down properly. Most urinals are made for full-size men, and little boys would either have to have a special step-stool (which is generally not provided in bathrooms) or would have to be held up by someone else. So aren’t urinals SIZIST against very short men and little boys as well?

  58. DKM: Why not custom-tailored urinals where the face of your most notorious feminist womanbeinghateful is painted onto the surface where you can aim, every time you unrinate. You can relieve yourself and vent your anger at castrating manhaters at the same time!

    Tell me there is no market for this!
    You want “misogyny”? Here is misogyny!

    You are for the first time ever, DKM Shitforbrains, CORRECT!

    That is, your last sentence is correct.

    The first part is as usual wrong: there are already urinals made out of all parts of women’s bodies (in fact, the idea of just the face is so LACKING compared to what is out there that it appears you really are sheltered) for sale.

    And despite all the shrieks of misandry–NO toilets made in the shape of men’s bodies.

    EVIDENCE: You know, the stuff Trollz never provide:

    Google Search urinals shaped like women’s bodies Look at the results.

    This is my favorite (and the first link under the search linked to above:

    Sociological blog images and brief analysis–URINALS SHAPED LIKE WOMEN’S BODIES

    There are apparently no toilets shaped like men’s bodies.

    Eat shit and die, DKM!

  59. @Ithiliana- I think the closest thing you could find would probably be toilet paper with Saddam Hussain’s face on it or Hitler or something like that. I know it exists- I think I saw it in the storefront of one of those novelty shops. But I’m not paying an assload of money for one roll of joke toilet paper with someone’s face on it. Besides, I prefer that extra soft Charmin stuff for my sensitive bits. XD

  60. DKM, for those of you who have only recently begun to peruse Manboobz, believes that women are at fault for making men hit, or kill, them.

    Actually, if he did have shit for brains, he’d probably be better off, critical thinking wise, than he is now.

    My invariable quote for when he shows up: the comments that got him on moderation last time.

    DKM:

    So much for all of the nonsense gibberish here on womenbeinghateful(a.k.a. manboobz.com) about my being cruel to kitties–or women!

    You don’t get it, do you, DKM? The only “nonsense gibberish” is your maunderings about how if kittens (or presumably any other pets) or WOMEN don’t behave, they should be punished–and men who kill women are driven to it.

    Your words. Live with them:

    http://manboobz.com/2012/02/09/alcuin-and-out-or-the-kkk-with-tits/comment-page-8/#comment-123827

    Ithiliana–February 12, 2012 @2:31pm

    “graduate student “murdered” by ex-husband”

    Take post cited above. Could woman who talks like that (over the ‘net) have such an unpleasant, unfeminine, and just plain horrid personality that she could say something that MAY provoke an unpleasant response from a nearby man who may already be troubled about something else. Look at all of the cases you read about where a murder or vicious assault or rape was committed by a man whose entire life was coming apart, and the very person—his wife–whom he was relying upon to keep what was left of his sanity was turning on him…

    Did graduate student take her “how to handle men” or something like that from YOU?

    I was explaining that a man who loved his nearest and dearest would do anything to avoid the spousal abuse so often cited on feminuttery websites and blogs like this, because it wouldn’t get him what he wanted! I would rather be kind, gentle, and loving to a woman than beat,rape, or kill her, and so would most men, for obvious reasons!

    Gee, Ithiliana, for an intelligent woman, you sure have a lot of trouble understanding ordinary common sense, don’t you?

  61. The whole “male spaces” thing seems like such a bad misunderstanding of “women’s spaces.” It’s interpreting the important part as the exclusion of the other gender, not the things that you can actually get done with members of your own gender.

    If you want your own space just to piss in and do nothing useful, just so nobody else can piss there… You’re missing several points at once.

  62. Argenti:

    it isn’t your luck, those things really don’t work. They’re just magnets basically

    How the fuck do they work?

    (Someone had to say it)

    Christine:

    If I wasn’t afraid of these tools before, I am now.

    Stud finders or MRAs?

  63. Nanasha:

    So aren’t urinals SIZIST against very short men and little boys as well?

    That was my first thought when he started talking about how it was for boys, that little boys wouldn’t be able to reach the urinal. I didn’t think about short adults, although it’s kinda obvious in retrospect, but I did think about people with paraplegia and other disabilities that would prevent them from using a urinal.
    You’d think that with all dangerous jobs that only men do and all the workplace accidents because of all the misandry, that the MRM would be more worried about people with disabilities.

  64. CassandraSays

    @ Myoo

    That occurred to me too. For all their talk about wanting to help little boys, it’s pretty obvious that most of these guys have never actually taken care of a little boy.

  65. ShadetheDruid

    So aren’t urinals SIZIST against very short men and little boys as well? – Nanasha

    I’ve seen places before where they have urinals of varying heights (and sizes). They aren’t the norm I don’t think, but they do exist (at least over here in the UK, I obviously can’t speak to other places).

  66. creativewritingstudent

    Dear god, what Meller’s saying is bad enough, but his tone is all “calm yourselves, little ladies, and let me explain all the ways in which you are wrong, and when you understand we can put a gold start on your sticker chart, wont that be nice?”

    Wanker.

  67. creativewritingstudent

    @Myoo

    My Dad’s quadruplegic. He uses the disabled loo, or a bottle, or (in utmost emergencies) the gutter.

    I now have the mental image of him trying to use a urinal, and his PA holding his leg up onto it, and all the other men glaring at them because they’re taking up the entire men’s loos to do so. Assuming he doesn’t get his wheelchair jammed going in.

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