New blog catalogs Men’s Rights awfulness!
Yep, that’s right, the “clopping” sound of high heels are a form of “street harassment.” I found the screenshot above on a promising new blog you can find at MensRightsActivism.com. Yep, that’s right. Evidently it never occurred to anyone in the Men’s Rights movement to lock down that domain name.
Oh, this little Reddit screenshot is good too:
How exactly does saying “consent is sexy” mean that male consent is taken for granted? How is it that 59 people thought that comment deserved an upvote?
I can’t answer either question, but there’s lots more hilarious and appalling stuff where that came from, mostly from the Men’s Rights subreddit. It’s going in the “antidotes to boobery” blog roll.
Posted on July 20, 2012, in announcements, anti-MRA information, awesome, misogyny, MRA, oppressed men, reddit. Bookmark the permalink. 622 Comments.
To put it another way, if someone shits on my birthday cake, and you come up to me and say, “Yeah, that sucks, but it’s TOTALLY ALL RIGHT because I just went over and SHAT on the birthday cake belonging to the person who shat on YOUR birthday cake! Don’t you feel better now?”
No. No, I don’t. It just makes for a world full of more shit-cakes.
Apparently even thinking to register the domain name that corresponds to their movement is too much for Mens Rights “Activists”. Feminism.com isn’t great or anything, but that movement does have the disadvantage in that respect in having started long before the internet.
I’m pretty sure the loudest heels are taller cowboy heels or cuban heels, as found on male-coded cowboy boots and chelsea boots. Not quite as high-pitched as the “click” from thinner heels, but louder. Are mods and cowboys inherently misandrist ?
Any sort of “harassment” that amounts to “people I want to have sex with are announcing that they exist and aren’t currently available for sex WITH ME RIGHT NOW” isn’t really sexual harassment. If it were sexual harassment, they’d care about getting it from dudes too, or at least pretend to.
Anyway, apparently my day-to-day shoes are incredibly misandrist. I’m more active as a feminist than I thought!
re female on male rape: I’ll wager it’s much less reported than its rate of occurrence. Because I know of cases of it. Cases where the male partner wasn’t in the mood, and the female partner was; and insisted until he gave in.
It wasn’t willing consent. It may not have been traumatic, but it was rape. I can say that, for all the lack of trauma; from reports, there were effects on the later sex life. Issues with (wait for it) reactions to a sense of pressure, which killed the mood.
Rape, is lack of, freely given, consent.
The whole “women making me notice that they are sexy is bad” thing is one of the ways I think that MRAs really diverge from the background sexism in the US, because most straight guys–even guys who aren’t feminists and are fairly sexist in a more conventional way–are all for women being sexy in public. In fact, many of them pay for it (strip club, etc).
I should amend that–there is also the modesty brigade, which is usually religious in background, is fairly similar, but again it is an outlier (and in this case I think comes from severe sexual repression that makes sexual arousal shameful and emotionally painful… hey, I might have found the connection.)
The whole “women are oppressing me by being attractive to me” thing is so baffling. Possibly the most baffling thing about the MRM, actually. I mean, a lot of sexist men will sometimes act like they think that women are arousing them on purpose just by being attractive, but usually you can tell that it’s just self-justification and they’re not delusional enough to actually believe it. With these guys, though…
pecunium — “I’ll wager it’s much less reported than its rate of occurrence.” — perhaps not anymore? The MRM insists on using 12 month data for the CDC rape stats because the male “made to penetrate” rate is nearly equal the female “rape” rate. I guess we’ll see how that pans out long term though. (It requires some fudging on the female rape rate to get that result, but the 12 month data on made to penetrate is a lot higher than the lifetime rate — either that stigma is decreasing, or that 12 month period was particularly rapey)
I really wouldn’t be surprised if the rates are actually fairly similar though, it’d fit my anecdotes.
(I await NWO’s twisting of what I just said, this should be good, with any luck I’ll be drunk by then.)
Seriously fuck the MRA who wrote that “rape analogy”, What is it with the MRM and getting away with rape anyway?
Re: sexual harassment is NOT solely men harrasing women, or women harassing men: there is also Same Sex Sexual Harassment.
ANd same gender sexual harassment.
and while there are gay and lesbian harassment situations, there are also cases of straight men sexually harassing other straight men.
I wonder what sort of obscene explosion these links will provoke from NWO!
That’s a pretty euphemistic way to refer to not treating drugging and raping someone or alcohol facilitated rape or non-penetrative rape of women as rape.
Also, yes, men underreport, but women also underreport sexual assaults and rape as well.
And I’m giving some serious side eye to that anecdote comment too.
What would MRAs think of these?
@lowquacks, Nice shoes. Nicely misandrist, that is!
@ Fembot
Ow. My feet hurt just watching that.
darksidecat — “That’s a pretty euphemistic way…” — yeah, it is, I’m in a generous mood (I’m working on getting myself drunk, it has that affect).
As for the anecdotes, you’re side eyeing that I know as many men who’ve been raped as women? Would it help if I clarified that I know more men than women in general? I mean anecdotes, the plural isn’t data for a reason…
@Ithiliana
“Re: sexual harassment is NOT solely men harrasing women, or women harassing men:”
You bore with your cultural marxism. The LGBT are ridicluled because they deserve to be ridiculed. “Look at me everyone, look where I stuff my junk. I’m a political movement now. You gotta love what I do, Ya gotta teach it your schools, Ya gotta promote it your papers.”
Save it already. You’re a bunch foul degenerates whose greatest hope is to defile everything decent in the world so everyone will be as foul as you. That way, if everyone degrades themselves down to your level you won’t have feel like the degenerate you are. You hate anyone with morals because they’re a constant reminder of how foul you really are.
No one’s buying what your selling anymore, and the more you try to shove your debauchery down everyone’s throat the greater the blowback. Ya know what tolerance is? Tolerance is how far you can deviate from the norm before you fuck up the whole thing. It must break your heart they weren’t able to turn the boyscouts into a recruiting station. Must seem like a veritable untapped schmogasborg.
@ Ithiliana
Very true, and thanks for bringing it up!
I thought clip-clopping was brony masturbation?
I couldn’t read that whining clip…clop without thinking about the sound of horses on pavement. If the sound of high heels makes him horny imagine what a mounted police officer or one of those romantic carriage-ride things would do for him?
I usually try to minimize the clippity clopping when I wear heels, as can be pretty annoying. You’re welcome, gentlemen.
How delightfully circular of you, NWO. They deserve to be ridiculed for standing up to ridicule. Ye gods are you stupid.
Shit, it’s still not half as stupid as going out of your way to tell people where not to* stuff their junk.
*consensually!
Also, wow, you’ll just call anything “marxism.”
Apparently Sweden uses the Russian/Spanish alphabet.
“Women can, and do, sexually harass men in the workplace, at school, and in other venues. It is much less common than the reverse, but it does happen and it is important to recognize and respond to it, rather than thinking it never happens.
Similarly, men can be raped not just by other men but by women. Female on male rape is rare, but believing it simply can’t happen is false. A man can be threatened into compliance, drugged, or overpowered, and can be penetrated or forced to penetrate. See line above about recognizing and responding versus pretending the problem does/can not exist.”
Yes women can do sexually harass men but , but there are never any charges and if a man were to complain, he’d be laughed at.
There’s an old expression “You can’t rape the willing” If a woman had sex with you (oral) while you were passed out, be happy or be gay. Just get over it.
There’s another old expression, and I think it’s very apt here: “Go fuck yourself.” If you’re asleep you’re not “willing”, you’re “unconscious”.
Asshole.
…has anyone pointed out yet that women can hear other women’s clompy heels? If that’s a form of “street harassment,” it’s hardly a male-exclusive one.
(I don’t really mind usually. The only time it’s bothered me is when the lady in the other apartment goes up and down the stairs in her clompy heels, and the staircase makes it super loud. Somehow I don’t think our loud staircase is a gendered street harassment issue.)
Sandusky’s victims were children not grown men
@Alex: thanks! The first year the System sent out an official lawyer to have a sexual harassment workshop (takes Texas schools a while to get up to speed, so this was like 1997 or something like that), the women in the audience got in a fight with the FUCKEN LAWYER (male, old, white, sexist jokes, such a credit to the system) pooh-poohing same-sex sexual harassment!
NWO: Wow, 25 minutes. Good timing.
Spelled my name correctly: A+!
193 words: not as long and frothing as your best efforts, but, still fairly substantive. B+ because I’m feeling in a good mood after watching ICE AGE CONTINENTAL DRIFT.
Diction: “foul” 3 times
“degenerate(s)” 2 times
“cultural Marxism” check but really I am not a Marxist–very weak on class analytics. Critical race queer feminist?
Not as repetitive as our Mr. Steele with his uncounted “viles”–and flow of sentences works rather well.
I’d say overall, a solid B.
“Actually, there’s only about a 20% chance in Meriken prison of being raped, for dudes. I mean, that is a little higher than the one for being a woman outside of prison (Which is roughly 16%), but it isn’t so much higher that you can say “for sure” about a dude in prison more than you would about a woman outside it.”
I’ve had a cousin and several friends who did time and all told me most get raped in prison. My son in law works at a federal prison and says all of them get raped.
Magnesium:
Only because in MRAland, male sexual pleasure doesn’t exist. So there is no way for a man getting a woman off to be reciprocated.
And of course you go directly to oral sex, as if there’s nothing sexual a woman could do to you while you’re passed out that you wouldn’t willingly consent to under any circumstances. Fucking idiot.
Ok I spoke too soon, no booze for you NWO, you’re hateful enough already, I don’t want to see you drunk.
You know that a quick Google search proves your statement is bullshit, right?
Yeah, so ’round these parts? We don’t really truck with the idea that it’s okay for women to rape men. Just in case you were confused.
I don’t even know what you’re trying to argue, grampmk. First you seem to be complaining that men can’t ever complain of sexual harassment, then you claim men can’t be raped?
You’re an asshole either way, but it’s weird that you’re somehow an asshole both ways.
Let’s get this clear: men can be sexually harassed. They can complain of it. Men can be raped. They can report it. Yes, it can be more difficult for male survivors to report. No, it is not impossible nor is it hilarious.
And that set of tropes (everyone in prison gets raped) is a huge part of how rape is used as control. It’s what Ruby is doing…. “stay in line or you’ll get sent to prison, and raped. Then we’ll all laugh about it”.
“Yes women can do sexually harass men but , but there are never any charges and if a man were to complain, he’d be laughed at.”
Wait, are you arguing that that’s a good thing? That is, are you actually saying that women don’t sexually harass men, or that it isn’t a problem, because he’d be laughed at? And arguing with a bunch of feminists who think he should be taken seriously? Admittedly, I am not sober currently, but I can’t make heads or tails of what point you’re trying to make here.
“There’s an old expression “You can’t rape the willing” If a woman had sex with you (oral) while you were passed out, be happy or be gay. Just get over it.”
Ok that’s worse than the usual drivel from the MRM, at least they generally stick to calling it “neutral or pleasant” — they generally think that they’d always be willing, which is dumb, but not de facto insulting, it does leave open the option they’re simply speaking out of ignorance. You though? You just said that any man who gets raped and isn’t happy to be “having sex” must be gay. Any thoughts on NWO’s hateful circular argument? (Preferably thoughts directed at him, not me)
“I’ve had a cousin and several friends who did time and all told me most get raped in prison. My son in law works at a federal prison and says all of them get raped.”
I just said this, but let me repeat myself — the plural of anecdote is not data.
“I don’t even know what you’re trying to argue, grampmk. First you seem to be complaining that men can’t ever complain of sexual harassment, then you claim men can’t be raped?”
Oh good, it isn’t me, I didn’t think I was that drunk yet!
Yes.
Also, on one side it’s also used to create this false sense of “justice,” like the prison rapists somehow know (or care) who the really bad people are.
But paradoxically on another side it’s used as an argument against imprisoning anyone ever. “You can’t send that man to jail, he’ll get raped there!” Which has somewhat more truth than the above, but is often used as yet another bludgeon to stop rape accusations from being taken seriously.
And another thing:
Way to acknowledge that gay men can be raped by women and write them off as irrelevant in the same breath. You’re even more of an asshole than you seem at first glance.
“It must break your heart they weren’t able to turn the boyscouts into a recruiting station. Must seem like a veritable untapped schmogasborg.”
This is particularly ironic coming from a man who constantly prattles about how arousing he finds underage girls and how they’re taunting him with their animal sexuality. Most people do not see children as a potential source of sexual gratification, Slavey. As far as the group here is concerned, it’s just you.
Oh hai new troll.
The weird part is that the Boy Scouts kicked out a lesbian scoutmaster. Shouldn’t that (by slavey-logic in which orientation includes children) have made the boys safer? I mean, someone who’s not interested in males of any age seems even less likely to molest boys than a straight woman.
Every time Rutee says “Meriken”, I take a drink.
@Argenti Aertheri
“Ok I spoke too soon, no booze for you NWO, you’re hateful enough already, I don’t want to see you drunk.”
Oh no! I’ve been called hateful. Facts do seem to be hateful in the modern world. If gays aren’t looking at the boyscouts like a schmogasborg, why are they so interested in getting in there. Why not start the gayscouts? They’d even get federal funding, which the boyscouts don’t get. Always gotta devolve down to the lowest common denominator?
Good old Ozy’s out at the, haha, good mens project trying to ridicule anyone who dares not be a slut. Those damn people not having sex before marriage, being all loyal and stuff. If everyone wallows in a pile of hedonistic filth, no’ll feel bad about being a piece of filth. You gals are doin a great job of legislating morality with your votes. Can’t wait to see what you legislate next.
I’ll leave you with what modern women have become. Such gems.
I just said this, but let me repeat myself — the plural of anecdote is not data.
Ok… I understand what’s being said, and I agree with that aspect of it. But the plural of anecdote is data. It’s the collating/analysing which makes the difference, but all that data is lots of anecdotes being refined.
:)
Oh Varpole, so you’re saying you’re still obsessed with everything Rutee says? Maybe you should talk to someone about that, it’s not healthy you know.
Hey Varpole… is the project at work done yet?
Hey, look on the bright side – maybe he’ll be less boring if he’s drunk.
That explains a lot, actually. You should try posting sober, you might make more sense.
Try writing a haiku every time Rutee says “‘Meriken”. In your case, practice may not make perfect but it may make better. Every little bit helps.
*sigh*
The recent Boyscouts thing is really hard. On the one hand I boycott companies/organizations that I believe are homophobic. But I believe in urban scouting. It breaks my heart to see how many successful programs have been disbanded because of lack of attendance and I know how hard my father and men like him have worked to keep these chapters active and help them grow. It’s one of the reasons I got involved. And I love pinewood derby.
I just don’t know…
If we took a drink every time you wrote something unfounded, badly written, or lacking understanding of responses for you, we’d end up passed out in a very short time!
MERIKAN MERIKAN MERIKAN MERIKAN MERIKAN
Aw, my name was meant to display as “definitely certainly 100% real Rutee”.
Am I the only one who now wants to start using Meriken (instead of Amerika, which shows my age) just to see how drunk we can get Steele!
Hey, SteeeleTroll, how do you feel about USAian????????????????
@ ithiliana
Alcohol poisoning is bad, OK? We need to come up with a Steele drinking game that’s less likely to end in the ER.
Nobinayamu – The Girl Scouts are a pretty inclusive organization, and have happily taken gay, atheist, and trans girls and parents into their group. Campfire Scouts are co-ed and also gay-friendly.
CassandraSays: I know! I was trying to imply that. (Actually I don’t drink at all–combo of anti-depressant and thyroid meds makes alcohol a bad idea).
It’s not a drinking game, but I almost feel like making some donations to Planned Parenthood or something similar in their honor…………………not every time they posted something misogynist, racist, anti-semitic, etc., it would break the bank!……..but something like that.
“Ok… I understand what’s being said, and I agree with that aspect of it. But the plural of anecdote is data. It’s the collating/analysing which makes the difference, but all that data is lots of anecdotes being refined.”
You missed the part about the anecdotes being collected with a proper methodology — you can ask as many people as you like, unless it’s an actual random sample (or a population where that’d be impossible or exceedingly difficult) it isn’t data. Or at least, it isn’t data worth a damn.
In context, even if 100% of prisoners at the prison his son in law works for are raped, that says nothing about prisoners at other prisons — you need a random sample of all prisons.
Re: Steele/Varpole — I’d rather drink every time Rutee says “Meriken” than every time Varpole says Rutee, the latter would likely cause alcohol poisoning.
Hmm. I honestly can’t think of an occasion to donate that wouldn’t end up bankrupting anyone who isn’t Bill Gates. These guys are not only offensive, they’re repetitive too.
“MERIKAN MERIKAN MERIKAN MERIKAN MERIKAN”
Tiny sips? I mean, I’m enjoying my mango juice and vodka, but really, alcohol poisoning is bad (not that there are even 5 shots worth of vodka in my glass currently….but I’m not draining it, I just refilled it!)
And yes, being drunk makes Steele funnier, idk if him being drunk would help any though. (I don’t do drinking games, last time I tried that it was drinking to dalek stupidly during the bad wolf episode, yeah, that ended badly)
Cassandra — every time NWO admits he was wrong? I’ve seen that happen once.
Cliff- Oh, believe me I know. Both of my folks have been Scout leaders for a combined 30 years. I was a girl scout; my mother runs one of the city’s largest cookie depots. It’s just that -and I can’t speak to how it is in other parts of the country- while girl scouting in the city still works very hard to maintain membership and everything… There are just so many more volunteers; so many more women willing to volunteer their time and resources.
I don’t know why but it’s not the same for the urban scouting for boys. Before my father took over this troop it was about to be disbanded because the man who’d been running it died. He was 75 years old at the time with, maybe, five boys enrolled and no additional leaders. That was over 15 years ago; my dad is turning sixty-four this year. The program has grown, definitely. I’d say there’s been a real resurgence in scouting -in the city- in the last decade. But there remains a real shortage of volunteers. Especially in the poorer communities.
Anyway, my dad and I are talking about this.
It’s not really a good Friday night discussion. Not when there’s drunkenness, birthdays wishes, and that Steele idiot.
That would leave me unfortunately sober most of the time, and that would be sad. Maybe every time a thread passes 100 comments?
CassandraSays: OOPS, I misunderstood your comment! I think–you were referring to the “let’s all use Merikan” one? (I should go to bed I think).
I guess….I put his claim about drinking in the same category as all the other lies he’s spewed here, but you’re right–that sort of thing is probably not a good idea to joke about.
“Maybe every time a thread passes 100 comments?”
But only once per thread? That could work. Even once per 100 comments could work, except when Steele/Varpole’s around, that could still end in the ER if we have another “800 comments in one night” thread.
A toast to people with medication/alcohol interactions!
Of, like, lemonade, of course.
(Mine is for a genetic condition for which my grandfather, both parents, and my sister have all tested negative. Lucky me?)
What in the world is a schmogasborg? A cyborg feast?
It’s a yiddish word, I can only assume he’s doing his antisemitic thing again.
Well, he spelled it wrong of course. Maybe it’s a kind of feminist-borg buffet?
But… I’m a man and I have a pair of shoes that make that clip-clop sound…
What now?
I was rather amused to discover that spiked trainers make a pretty similar sound to stilleto heels. I can imagine it now.
*clip clop clip clop*
“Oh, those sexy bitches, being all sexually harrassing with their sexy slut shoes, grr!”
*Misogynist looks around*
“GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASP! It’s Wayne Rooney!” *squeeing, sparkles*
OK, was I the only one who read that as Merkin?
Oops.