Update: Norwegian Men’s Rights blogger Eivind Berge will be held for four more weeks due to the “risk of recurrence of new criminal offenses.”

Just a quick update on Eivind Berge: According to this news account, the Norwegian Men’s Rights blogger is considered enough of a threat to police officers that his two-week detention has been extended by four more weeks. According to the prosecutor, the “risk of recurrence of new criminal offenses” makes releasing him dangerous.

See my posts here and here for more on his arrest.

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Posted on July 19, 2012, in antifeminism, MRA, terrorism, threats. Bookmark the permalink. 262 Comments.

  1. This is just one more indication that all of our regular trolls should get together and form their own mini-state. Think of it, Slavey – no Big Daddy! Just you, Meller, Meller’s dolls, Steele, and a few other MRAs! No women taunting you by wearing capri pants! What are you waiting for?

  2. Argenti Aertheri

    “Really? Why? Say the government just up and disappeared tommorow. Could I still drive without my State given privilege? If I drive without a license I will infringe on no ones life, freedom or property. Since I infringe on no ones rights, how can I be breaking any law.”

    Well someone apparently doesn’t think the risk of bad drivers killing people is infridging on anyone’s rights…hint dude, things like this are why I don’t think anarchism could work — people would still need licenses for things like driving, electric repair, medicine, etc.

    Or should that read “well some fool…”? Wouldn’t want you thinking I like you after all. (Fool is literally the least bad thing I can think of to call you, you really need to chill.)

    Here’s an insult for you NWO — you have as many brain cells as an amoeba.

  3. Really? Why? Say the government just up and disappeared tommorow. Could I still drive without my State given privilege? If I drive without a license I will infringe on no ones life, freedom or property. Since I infringe on no ones rights, how can I be breaking any law.

    owlslave, what is your theory of what law is that makes this statement make sense.

    i’ve been reading dworkin all evening (ronald, not andrea), and i could use the laugh.

  4. @NWO

    Those jokes suck. Do you know any good puns?

  5. he doesnt know any puns, but he knows some good blonde jokes. for instance:

    q: what do you call a blonde who dyes her hair?

    a: a stupid bitch who should be beaten for taunting men by walking around with her head uncovered.

  6. That’s not very funny, Sharculese. I have blonde hair ;)

  7. A man walks into a bar. It’s a hard bar. There’s no punchline, because misandry isn’t funny.

  8. A man signs up to take some classes in college. But he finds that the seats are too hard for his delicate bottom. So he sues them. A judge throws the lawsuit out because it is frivolous, and the man gets stuck paying a £ 37,000 bill. The man retaliates by calling a lot of people wh*res on Twitter. The world laughs at him. Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

  9. Awh, the slaveman should hang out with my gramma some time. She also agrees that people (namely herself) should be able to drive without a license. She’s really pissed that the DMV wouldn’t renew it after she got into four accidents in as many months.

    MISANDRY!!

    (Of course, I would never let the slaveman anywhere near my gramma, but you know. I still think he’d be awesome at advocating for the rights of little old ladies to drive headlong into Brink’s trucks.)

  10. Another option if you don’t want to pay insurance- don’t own a car! I know it sounds crazy, but owning a car is not MANDATORY. I know lots of people who live in areas where they can use alternative transportation and telecommuting to keep themselves from having to buy a vehicle. It saves a lot of money.

    I mean, what’s next, do you expect FREE GAS just because you don’t think you ought to have to pay for your transportation fuel?

    You don’t need a license to have a bicycle, nor do you need one if you vanpool, carpool, ride the bus, or take a trolley/subway. My husband got to 24 years of age before he got his driver’s license because we lived in a city where we had great buses coming every 15 minutes or we could ride bikes.

    And if you really want to risk it, you can run around without insurance on your car. But you can get in a lot of trouble if you’re found out.

    You do have a CHOICE. It’s just not what you WANT as a choice.

    But you can’t have everything you want.

  11. You do have a CHOICE. It’s just not what you WANT as a choice.

    And that is the core of the MRM. Not having the choice you WANT = Oppression/Misandry.

  12. I understand how you feel. I’m in Missouri, and sometimes I feel embarrassed by the reputation the state is getting because of turds like John Ashcroft, Roy Blunt, or Billy Long. Please don’t judge all of us by them.

    Back when Ashcroft was the most prominent Missourian on the national stage, I tended to make a point of reminding people that the only reason he was available to be the AG was because Missouri preferred a dead guy to him in our Senate race. We may not be great, but at least we have some taste. :-p

  13. “I have bullets and books and words and testosterone. I could be the next Anders Breivik.”

    NWO, you’re selling yourself short. You forgot to mention you have the same level of cowardice, the same persecution complex and the same delusions of grandeur as Breivik.

  14. When will these guys learn that showing up with a penis and following the stereotypical male gender roles does not automatically win them the Prize of Everything They Ever Wanted Without Any Hardship or Tribulation To Get It?

    And when will they learn that women are not THINGs to be had?

  15. Owly: I don’t have a license because my vision is so bad that even with corrective lenses I can’t pass the eye exam. THIS IS A GOOD THING. Seriously, if I can’t see road signs further than 10 feet away and have so little peripheral vision that I couldn’t see other cars trying to pass, I have no business driving. There is a reason that cars are often considered deadly weapons if someone intentionally tries to hit someone with one. Requiring a license to drive is protecting the general safety and welfare of citizens which has been a recognized role of government for as long as governments have existed and is not a violation of your freedom.

  16. NWOSlave:

    Was it really? I guess you were wrong.

    And I’ve rarely been happier to be wrong, if “happier” was an appropriate emotion on 22 July last year.

    I don’t expect you to understand this, since it requires strange and alien powers like normal human empathy, but if it had been Berge, everyone who commented on his blog, including myself, would have felt partly responsible in some way, because our revulsion and mockery might have been one of the things that finally pushed him over the edge.

    Obviously, this isn’t the kind of thing for which we could be arrested and charged as co-conspirators, but you’d have to be truly inhuman not to feel something in this situation.

  17. @ Wetherby:

    Don’t let yourself get caught in that trap. When someone makes a conscious choice to go out and murder the defenseless and the unsuspecting like Breivik did, they don’t do it because they were mocked. They do it because they’re vile, cowardly scum who truly believe that those they hate aren’t even human. The only people who would have shared responsibility with Berge would be those who loudly and frequently agree with him, not those who are rightly revolted by him. I refuse to take responsibility for the weakness of someone like Berge.

  18. I don’t feel responsible for the reprehensible actions of others. It’s like the story of the two boys raised by an alcoholic. One grows up to be an alcoholic. The other grows up being very careful about how much they drink and drinks responsibly. Both of them use their alcoholic parent as the reason they made their respective choices.

    Each of us has a choice, to do good, evil or to stagnate.

    In high school, my husband was called all manner of homophobic slurs, had very few friends, had access to guns, loved heavy metal and Marilyn Manson music, etc. Yet he never went to school and shot other kids. In fact, he internalized a lot of the mocking and almost committed suicide. If I had not met him when I did, he may have gone through with it.

    Many people endure horrible torture, sexual abuse, and blatantly unfair life situations. 99% of these people do not go on to perpetrate torture, sexual abuse and murder.

    Let’s place the blame squarely on the shoulders of the people who decided to behave in such a manner and then used their experiences as justification.

    You can’t make someone murder people.

  19. As I’ll be moving to Bergen from the U.K. in a few weeks I can’t say I’m entirely unhapy about this. I don’t necessarily believe Berge is as dangerous as Breivik, but sure people would rather not take their chances. His views on women (and men and children for that matter) are certainly as reprehensible as Breivik’s, if not more so.

  20. Sorka, as long as you get paid enough for the cost-of-living increase, it will probably be a great experience. Of course, my friends in England are claiming that ANYTHING would be preferable to this latest English summer.

  21. Don’t let yourself get caught in that trap. When someone makes a conscious choice to go out and murder the defenseless and the unsuspecting like Breivik did, they don’t do it because they were mocked. They do it because they’re vile, cowardly scum who truly believe that those they hate aren’t even human. The only people who would have shared responsibility with Berge would be those who loudly and frequently agree with him, not those who are rightly revolted by him. I refuse to take responsibility for the weakness of someone like Berge.

    Rationally, of course there’s no reason to blame oneself: my opposition to Berge’s views was total and unshakeable from the moment I first became aware of his existence. But in situations like this, one’s reactions aren’t necessarily rational.

    In fact, this has reminded me of a real-life example: when a man was arrested on suspicion of being a serial killer of prostitutes, as soon as I found out that he lived in a council flat in a particular area, I joked “I wonder if [a friend of mine] processed his housing application?”, since he worked in the council’s housing department.

    You can guess the punchline, can’t you?

    Obviously, there was no reason to taint him by association: the application was completely above board, and he only started murdering prostitutes after he moved in there, at least as far as anyone is aware. But simply because he’d had a face to face conversation with this guy, my friend felt distinctly weird about the whole situation – obviously he didn’t feel responsible in any way (he had no reason to turn down the application, and even if he had done different prostitutes would probably have been murdered elsewhere), but you’d have to be truly inhuman not to feel anything at all.

  22. It was this guy, for the record – with trigger warnings for descriptions of what he did to his victims.

  23. AndersH: What British summer? But yes, it’ll be worth it and it’s only for 5 months initially!

  24. ShadetheDruid

    Hah, people always complaining about our summers.. silly. :P

    *Hates the heat, has hayfever, and likes the rain*

  25. Jeez, Shade, I am so jealous right now. I’ve about all I can stand of this ninety degrees, 100% humidity bullshit.

  26. The major upside of this year’s British summer washout is that my nose has barely twitched this year.

    Virtually every other year the onset of summer (which begins in April as far as my nose is concerned) brings with it an onslaught of sneezing, itching, dripping, you name it – and the only drugs that seem to work on me are the ones marked “May cause drowsiness”, which translates as “may make even the simplest activity feel as though you’re performing it while immersed in treacle”. And not having to go through that this year has been a massive bonus that’s more than worth putting up with the occasional monsoon-style downpour.

  27. We could do with a few more downpours in the U.S. Got a bit of a drought going on.

  28. We certainly haven’t – it hasn’t rained so far today, but it’s not 11am yet so there’s plenty of time for the clouds to get going.

  29. Well, at least the temperature’s gone down a ways here. But we keep getting these insignificant little sprinklings of rain. Thunderstorms that last all of ten minutes, crap like that.

    My plants are suffering. :(

  30. ShadetheDruid

    We haven’t had a decent thunderstorm here for what seems like years (at least in my part of the country). Which sucks, because I love them. :(

    At the minute here, it’s just wet and cloudy with only a little rain. But it’s about 18°C, so it’s not cold at all. Only downside is the mud (had to rescue a chicken yesterday because it has a massive lump of hardened mud stuck to its foot which was making it limp around, but some warm water solved that issue), and avoiding the giant lakes in the driveway.

    Wait, are we seriously discussing weather? :P

  31. Looks that way. And yeah, thunderstorms are the best.

    There’s this low spot in my driveway, and if rains hard enough this huge puddle forms, and sometimes ducks start swimming in it. :)

  32. I love the way that a thread discussing a vile™ apologist for rape and murder has turned into a chat about the weather.

  33. ShadetheDruid

    Wetherby: That’s part of why I fell in love with Manboobz, the non-troll derails are the best. :D

    Dracula: Aww, ducks are awesome. Sometimes in the spring, there’s a trio of ducks that come around here (a female and her two male friends, has to be some misandry involved there! Either that or they’re Nice Ducks ™ and she’s quack-zoned them). The puddles don’t get deep enough to swim in, but they love them anyway.

    One of my cats, on the other hand, does not. But watching her try to navigate the driest parts so she doesn’t get her little pawsies wet is hilarious. :D

  34. We live on a pond, so we never want for ducks around here. Mostly Mallards, but we get Buffleheads in the winter.

    There’s also loads of Canadian geese, swans, sometimes seagulls, and the occasional cormorant or heron. It’s brackish water, close to the ocean, hence the sea birds.

  35. There was just a shooting at an Aurora, Colorado movie theater during the midnight showing of Dark Knight Rises. I am sure a lot of people in the US who are awake have seen some news of it. No motivations are available yet, or information on who the person is. He wasn’t on a watch list, so maybe there were no warning signs. still it would be nice to support when police can prevent senseless tragedy rather than wait until after a horrific crime has been committed.

  36. Damn, this is first I’m hearing of this.

  37. http://abcnews.go.com/US/mass-shooting-colorado-movie-theater-14-people-dead/story?id=16817842 is one article I’ve read. Note there is a video that automatically plays. CN for violence. I am in Korea but I am from Aurora so I am anxiously trying to get a hold of my friends, many of whom saw it opening night and some of whom may have been at that theater.

  38. I hope your friends are okay.

  39. So far so good :). Sorry this is getting on another subject, but I thought it was somewhat related. Unstable and violent people usually show signs. If the cops can apprehend them before they carry out their violent fantasy it is better for everyone. Don’t know that this event could have been prevented (if the suspect had online rants or threats etc).. If he did, I’d be angry something wasn’t done. The risk of people carrying out their violent words is very real.

  40. At the moment you’re only interrupting a conversation about ducks, so don’t worry about it.

  41. @Freitag: I’m a northern import (the fact that Texas had such a huge growth in the past two decades from outside is because the state has the lowest percentage of adults 25 and under with high school degrees/GED and also the lowest percentage of adults with college degees)–been here for 19 years.

    It’s getting better in some ways (40% voted for Obama, mostly in the cities), but you have to admit that the Republican hegemony here is pretty dedicated to underfunding education, overfunding prisons, sub-contracting out state services to Big Bidnesses to run badly, and putting out platforms that are against teaching critical thinking and for the gold standard.

    The people, as opposed to the thugs running the state institutions, are as all people varied–I’m in a poor rural county with horrible health care, few social services, and major lack of jobs outside the service sector–and yet am still astounded by how many of my students are conservatives–and fundamentalists (town of 7800, 45 churches).

    But Texas is not uniquely horrible: these days Arizonia, Louisiana, Missouri, Arkansas, and a few other southern states are right there in the running.

    Rick Perry’s trying to force universities to offer $10,000 college degrees is only the most recent tip of the absolute idiocy that is public education in Texas.

  42. It’s far more on-topic than the OP!

    But I’m really not sure what the solution is, given that only a few days ago film critics were being sent death threats for having the temerity to pan a film that the people sending the threats hadn’t even seen! Should every single person who did this have been arrested? Or would such a large-scale action have been more likely to trigger unintended consequences?

    Still, at least the suspect has been apprehended, and in situations like this the suspect usually is the guy who did it (given the accompanying evidence) – so we might actually get some insight into his motivation.

    Oh, and fingers crossed for your friends at this end, too.

  43. It’s far more on-topic than the OP!

    Sorry, completely mangled that sentence – I meant to write “it’s far more on-topic than most of the last few posts!”

  44. thoughts going out to all the USians. Hugs from Australia.

  45. @Wetherby, that really depends what we find out. The ABC news story already had the obligatory ‘we don’t know yet if this is Islamic terrorism’ scare quote… i.e., already pointing fingers.

    If he turns out to be somebody who was posting violent fantasies online for quite some time… for whatever reason… then we can start second-guessing about whether we’re paying enough attention to folks doing that.

    At this point, who knows?

  46. The ABC news story already had the obligatory ‘we don’t know yet if this is Islamic terrorism’ scare quote… i.e., already pointing fingers.

    The suspect’s name is James Holmes, aged 24.

    Which doesn’t of course rule out Islamist terrorism, but it makes it appreciably less likely.

  47. what I have read and watched indicates that the police/ investigators do not think this has to do with Islamic terrorism. To be honest given the area I would suspect racial motivations if anything, but I hesitate to throw out theories without any information.

    I don’t think everyone who makes threats are equal by any means, but it makes sense to take seriously when people make repeated, documented and specific threats like Berge does/ did. Can’t catch everyone that way, but I don’t believe that free speech covers violent threats.

  48. The alleged shooter had at least four weapons on him or in a vehicle and the door to his apartment seems to be booby-trapped. The story says “four weapons recovered,” and it doesn’t seem like the cops have breached his apartment yet, so I think it safe to say he was carrying them or had them nearby, probably in a car or truck.

    But hey, requiring people to prove that they know how to handle dangerous things safely by qualifying for a government license is merely rent-seeking behavior on the part of Big Daddy so they can fine you when you don’t play along, amirite?

  49. I don’t think everyone who makes threats are equal by any means, but it makes sense to take seriously when people make repeated, documented and specific threats like Berge does/ did. Can’t catch everyone that way, but I don’t believe that free speech covers violent threats.

    I completely agree. Berge had been posting implicit and explicit anti-police threats for years before his arrest – and a sensible reaction to the Breivik massacre would have been to tone down the violent rhetoric.

    Instead, he openly praised him, almost to the point of sounding jealous of his achievement, and consciously exploited the notoriety that resulted from being a pro-Breivik Norwegian. One particularly telling detail is that his blog attracted far more Norwegian commenters after 22 July 2011 than it ever did before.

    No police force worthy of the name can ignore something like that – and if they find material evidence that suggests that Berge was capable of physically carrying out his threat, they were pretty much obliged to investigate. And the fact that his detention in remand has been extended (and tripled) from the original two-week period suggests that they’re taking his threats very seriously indeed.

    (Note that none of the above needed to refer to Berge’s initial notoriety as an outspoken and unambiguous rape apologist – amazingly, this seems to be the least controversial thing about him!)

  50. howardbann1ster

    And I just read that there was an explosive device found in the theater?

    Agh.

    And throwing out the ‘no word if it’s an Islamic terrorist yet!’ line is a way of putting that on your mind. Not ‘no way to know if it’s a right-wing skinhead!’ ‘No way to tell if it’s a men’s right activist!’

    It’s framing (not ‘framing the suspect,’ ‘framing your mental picture’). There was a lot of that speculation when the Norway shooting happened. It’s a way of saying ‘I expect those brown people to be violent.’

    And given what we know about terrorism in America and how much more right-wing terrorism there’s been here? Yeah. Starting out with that framing is …problematic. Reality-denying.

  51. ShadetheDruid

    I heard about this story this morning on the radio (news on the BBC). :( Hopefully the people injured will make full recoveries.

    It does seem that whenever there’s a mass killing or some sort of bomb threat, they always wheel out the old Islamic terrorist thing.. And then completely drop any mention of “terrorism” entirely when the person involved turns out not to be a Muslim, even if technically the event fits the definition of “terrorism” (not that it looks like it applies in this case, though we don’t know the guy’s motivations yet).

    I think that’s part of the reason those things keep happening, people just ignore any terrorism that’s not Islamic in nature and dismiss the idea that it’s part of a pattern.

    And as long as we’re poking at questionable lines in that ABC link, I noticed a weird one that now looks like it got edited out in the update. It was something along the lines of “the authorities can’t say how many of those killed and injured were women and children”.. that line made me go: o.O

  52. Note of pedantic exactitude. The name of the birds is Canada Goose/Geese, not Canadian. We don’t know where they live, only where they are. :)

  53. One reason you shouldn’t move to Canada. Geese can hurt you badly. And they wander all over Quebec City smoking tiny cigarettes and being bored with things.

    Stay down here with the bears and the coyotes and the crocodiles. At least they won’t sneer at you before they mess you up.

    /silly

  54. I was menaced by a Canada goose once! I was walking along the riverwalk to work, and saw a nest, and a mama goose, and some goslings, fairly new, clearly, and was standing there oohing and aahing when Daddy Goose came toward me with clear intent to defend his family from this two legged predator.

    I retreated quickly and respectfully….

  55. Shade: Yeah. The majority of terrorists in the US are white, male, Conservative, Christian (of a “fundamentalist” stripe).

    When they do things like offer to sell bombs full of sodium cyanide; and get caught before they able to get those to the hands of the activist extremists, they are ignored. When they do something like Eric Rudolph’s campaign of terror, they are, “lone wolves”, or, “disturbed individuals”. The underlying support network (Rudolph wasn’t living in the woods for three years on nuts and berries), and the drumbeats of encouragement (anyone seen a, “Liberal Hunting License? I have), are brushed off as, “people letting off steam”, or given a False Equivalence (the SLA, or Ted Kaczinski).

    Then, if God Forbid, one ever says that, push come to shove, they will resist someone who wants to actually kill them, they are violently unhinged, because everyone knows the only real Terrorists are the Timothy McVeighs, of the world, but the mad brown people who hate our freedom.

    Gah.

  56. Simply making threats is not necessarily going to lead directly to people murdering others. HOWEVER. There are other indicators that an incident will be occur, such as the purchasing of weapons and ammunition in concurrence with the threat, a history of lower level violence (assault/verbal abuse) towards others, violence/abuse towards animals, visiting potential target areas with regularity, and of course, if actual concrete plans or concrete direct threats (“I’m going to kill some vague group of people” is less convincing than “I’m going to kill X person on X date with X weapon.”). Most mass murderers who plan their murders ahead of time also want to seek the most amount of attention for their deeds (high visibility) because they are narcissists.

    Obviously, there are more, but forensic psychologists are trained to ferret them out. It’s more than just a death threat- it’s a bunch of stuff that comes together to form a more accurate picture of someone who is likely to commit mass murder (or just singular murder). While I do not advocate or suggest suicide as something these people ought to engage in instead, I do honestly think that I would prefer someone who thinks horrible thoughts about others to harm themselves than a bunch of innocents.

  57. I’ve kept geese. Oi… the honking. That’s not the thing to worry about, it’s the hissing. That’s when they are actually angry/scared.

    And I’ve been “goosed”. Ow. I know how to deal with them, and I’m still cautious.

  58. A g&oslash&oslashse bit my sister &oslashnce ….

  59. Dammit.

    &#248

  60. Okay … giving up….

    I was gonna say, “A goose bit my sister once,” a la Monty Python and the Holy Grail, but I can’t do the slashed Os.

  61. Try adding a semi-colon at the other end of the expression

    ø

    ø

  62. Yep, that works.

  63. NWO, you dumb sack of crap:

    Who builds the roads? The government builds them with our taxes. They are a public good. Roads are not a free-for-all that no one owns. We ALL own them. Driving is not a right. Driving is a privilege and to use it you have to obey the rules and laws that keep us ALL safe while using them.

    What you are advocating for is something terrible. Quite frankly, I don’t want to die while driving to work some morning because there are people on the roads who can’t see well enough or don’t understand the rules of the road. The rules are there to keep us all alive. When you are told you can’t drive because of some reason (eg. Can’t see well enough, another health concern, not old enough to operate a vehicle or having lost a license due to drinking or another offense) it is to keep others and yourself alive. Other people do have a right to not be killed by idiots. Also a close friend worked as an EMT years ago, and boy, the stories that he told me about having to scrape peoples insides off the highways are horrific. No one should have to live with the memories and reoccurring nightmares of what a persons insides look like because someone decided to drive home drunk or entirely disregard the rules of the road. The rules of the road keep us alive. Hell, I shouldn’t even have to explain something so frigging obvious.

  64. I’m amused. Not that NWO is getting (more) deserved drubbing for this inanity, but because he could have avoided it.

    These comments aren’t new. It’s because he denied saying them, and they were reposted.

    A bad idea then, is still a bad idea now.

  65. captainbathrobe

    I’m remembering that when the Oklahoma City bombing happened, the news immediately flashed pictures of “Islamic Terrorists” who may have been responsible. Then they discovered it was an angry white right-wing American white guy, and the narrative became “why would a nice white boy do such a thing?”

    OK, I’m simplifying a bit with that last part, but that’s what it felt like.

  66. Bad_dog, that’s the perverse beauty of NWO. All of a sudden you find yourself trying to explain Basic Humanity 101 to him and wondering how the hell you got there.

  67. I’m remembering that when the Oklahoma City bombing happened, the news immediately flashed pictures of “Islamic Terrorists” who may have been responsible. Then they discovered it was an angry white right-wing American white guy, and the narrative became “why would a nice white boy do such a thing?”

    It also became much more personalized. There’s a whole narrative of Timothy McVeigh’s life, or Ted Kaczynski’s, of their individual upbringing and possible formative influences and possible moments “when it all went wrong.”

    What has the media said about Mohamed Atta or Marwan al-Shehhi as people, as people who had individuality and a history? When have we heard their former neighbors mumble awkwardly about “he always kept to himself”? Even with all the massive and long-running media attention paid to 9/11, the hijackers really never got characterized beyond Generic Arab Terrorist Guy.

    I’m not saying this out of sympathy for the 9/11 hijackers obviously, and I know that an attack coordinated by a fairly large organization is not the same as an attack by one or two people, but there’s still a double standard.

    Timothy McVeigh is investigated as a bad person; Marwan al-Shehhi only as a bad type of person.

  68. howardbann1ster

    There’s a series on Shakesville – Today in Totally Not Terrorism. Every time there’s a bombing or shooting at an abortion clinic. The MLK day bomb. The way the media consistently minimizes or altogether ignores that it’s a terrorism campaign.

    They only post one for a new incident of totally-not-terrorism.

    It’s a pretty regular feature.

  69. @pecunium
    “Shade: Yeah. The majority of terrorists in the US are white, male, Conservative, Christian (of a “fundamentalist” stripe).”

    Really? Do you have proof of this? A detailed list of all mass murderers for say the last 40 years or so and their stated reason for mass murdering would suffice. I’d like to see how over 50% of mass murders in the US are committed Christian fundies.

    Whatever happened to correlation doesn’t equal causation? Suddenly now it does?

    My guess is he came from a single mother home, which is decidedly anti-christian at the very core. We know for a fact the majority of every criminal activity derives from single mother homes. Isn’t like 80% of prisons filled with products of single motherhood? Nice. Women make poor authority figures because they inherently lack the leadership skills. All that tolerance seems to breed whatcha see today.

    Every moral preached from our schools, MSM as well as the political/corporate machine is totally opposite of Christianity. Is the US a Christian nation? At best, in name only. Gay pride, fifty shades of grey mentality, slutwalks, every form of debauchery is promoted and Christians are hated for daring to raise a voice against the mighty tolerance. We’re a nation of hedonistic atheists.

    On the plus side, this’ll be an excellent opportunity for Big Daddy to tighten his grip and expand security forces. Police forces in every theater, mall, grocery store, business, school. If I wanted to build a police state I wouldn’t pass up this golden opportunity. Don’t worry fellow americans, I won’t steal too much more of your wealth.

    At present, so far this year about 350 people died from walking on flat level ground and 10 from mass murderers in the US. Since I’m 35 X as likey to doe from walking on flat level ground. When will Big Daddy save me from this walking death?

  70. Heard about a couple of new updates on the story I heard on the news (not sure how many people are already following the story so this might not be new to most of you).

    “You have the right person.”

    That’s a quote from the guy’s mother. Makes you wonder how bad this guy is if his own mother isn’t interested in saying anything nice about him (contrast to, say, all the people who say “he was such a nice person” when their neighbours do something horrible).

    Also, the police have said the his apartment is booby trapped with explosives. He obviously put a lot of planning and effort into this.

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