The Lighter Side of Tom Martin (the repulsive British MRA)
Not Tom Martin
The other day we took a look at some of the more reprehensible opinions of Tom Martin, one of the UK’s most prominent Men’s Rights Activists and a man who evidently believes that child prostitutes are taking the easy way out to avoid having to get real jobs. He returned with even worse stuff, which I highlighted in my previous post.
Happily for all of us, not all of Martin’s views are this reprehensible. Many are merely ridiculous. So, today, let’s look at the Lighter Side of Tom Martin, as evidenced by some of his recent comments here on Man Boobz.
Martin apparently spent last Sunday working on a video project which involved him buttonholing passers-by on the streets of London and asking them questions in order to “prove” his various crackpot theories about gender. Here’s how he explained one aspect of his video research:
After shooting my video experiment tomorrow to discover who is more sexist on the street, women or women, I will be shooting another short, investigating if there is a correlation between unfunny women and prostitution ethic. I believe women could be as funny as men on average if they tried, but instead, invest in whoring strategies. I have a reliable street experiment to investigate this hypothesis also …
If I can establish that women can be as funny as men (in a zero prostitution environment), then this video experiment will be released in a news piece, and used as a springboard to pre-sell the feature-length documentary it will form a part of, on a related topic.
Good luck with that!
Martin also took on the contentious (to him) subject of male baldness, a topic of intense interest to him, due to certain factors with regard to gender and misandry … er, long story short, he’s bald. Sorry, balding.
After one commenter here suggested that Martin’s ambition was to become a sort of “Ann Coulter … with less hair and more swearing,” he took umbrage – not at the comparison to Coulter but at the bit about hair.
Well Cassandra, there are five new baldness treatments in the pipeline, but no drugs for treating a receding personality, so what are you going to do?
In a followup comment, the man whose favorite word in the English language is “whore,” used as an insult, declared we were being a bunch of evil meanies for even mentioning the whole (lack of) hair thing:
Cassandra, thanks to your receding personality (for which there is already a cure – renunciation therapy), I have decided for my filmed experiment tomorrow to also measure the degree to which each sex is prepared to make physical insults about the other sex.
Even if you specifically were fat for instance, and it was all your own fault because you refuse to get a job, I would never mention it in a debate with you. I debated an obese woman once. She ordered a pizza whilst we were still on stage, but I did not refer to it at the time, because of the most basic standards of decorum.
This I believe was an attempt at a joke.
How many manboobzers are prepared now to concur that Cassandra was being a douche by picking on an involuntary physiological characteristic of a debating opponent? And then encouraging others to do the same?
Of course, in Martin’s mind, mocking women as fat whores is totally cool, because:
Fatness is a choice, ladies, and so is being a whore. Going bald (currently) is not, due to poor efficacy of available treatments, including transplants. That will change, if Aderans, Histogen, Replicel, Allergen and Tsuji-Lab among others have anything to do with it. All you need to do in the meantime is shut the fuck up until they sort it out. The apparent acceptability of attacking the bald though, is a great example of the lack of equality men have. People do not generally attack or humiliate women who are going bald – but when it’s a man…
Uh, yeah, that’s why virtually every bald or balding woman wears a hat or a wig, while bald or balding men just comb it over or shave it all off.
Evidently Martin feels that even a mention of his lack of hair is some kind of hate crime. Here, prominent Bald Rights Activist Larry David tries to convince authorities to investigate a similar hate crime against him.
Note to Martin: Larry David’s show, “Curb Your Enthusiasm,” is fictional.
(Note: Tom Martin has confirmed that this is indeed him posting comments here on Man Boobz by sending an email from the account associated with his website Sexismbusters.org. Also, he’s retweeted quotes from his comments here. Contact him via his web site if you are skeptical.)
Posted on July 16, 2012, in antifeminism, evil fat fatties, hypocrisy, irony alert, men who should not ever be with women ever, misandry, misogyny, MRA, oppressed men, Tom Martin, whores. Bookmark the permalink. 651 Comments.
also by blaming other people for your lack of self-control
Wow, Steelepole really is the hero of his silly little drama, isn’t he? I almost feel bad making fun of someone who is this deluded about his own significance. Almost.
Okay. Now, admittedly, I’ve had a couple of glasses of wine but I think I just laughed so hard that I sprained something.
Let me get this straight Steele: with several days of Tom Martin’s beliefs on child prostitution -his actual, quotable comments on 10 year olds in impoverished countries being exploited by sex tourism- this is the best that the MRM as represented by you can come up with in response? Really?
So it’s safe to say that you’re calling Tom Martin a prostitute, correct?
Bathrobe, I appreciate your condescending sympathy, but the fact is, I quite enjoy my successful life. It’s not needed.
But I’m also someone who recognizes, from an objective standpoint, the misandry in our society, which is why I support the Movement.
So it’s safe to say that you’re calling Tom Martin a prostitute, correct?
In a sense, I suppose I am.
One would think you’d want to adopt a mantle of compassion and truth, but that’s just not your style, is it, Buck Steele?
It wasn’t condescending sympathy, it was sarcasm, Steelepole. If your life really is that successful, why devote so much of it trying to get our attention? Surely an ubermensch such as yourself has better things to do?
Steele’s use of the word “vile” gets funnier every time.
Blog host says that someone is sockpuppeting, longtime readers believe him – vile. Even though he was telling the truth.
The truth is misandry (if it makes Steele look like a dumbass).
Not nearly as funny as his claiming to be able to see things from an “objective standpoint”, though.
Vile slanderer. I never claimed to be an ubermensch; nothing but a strawman. I’m merely happy with my current circumstances.
And here’s a long history of statutory rape law debates and precedents in the US, with radical feminism’s position (“with girl children, everything is rape”) versus liberal feminism (“teenage girls like sex just as much as teenage boys”) – and it shows there are pros and cons to both approaches, regarding the difference between consensual statutory rape and forceable rape among other things, and regarding best outcomes:
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb6700/is_n1_85/ai_n28650099/pg_4/?tag=content;col1
What does not seem to be under any serious legal dispute, is that statutory rape is not the same as forceable rape, however much any rad fems would like to pretend.
Yay! I’m vile too! In your face, Pecunium!
That’s our Mikey, always happy to entertain us!
But, Steele, are you “done with me?” Because that would just be the icing on the cake.
Martin- the jig’s up, buddy. I will be emailing Elam, Price, Bogen, and others with my suspicions.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! I CAN”T WAIT!!
So, Tom, tell us: is there any truth to the rumor that you’re a feminist mole–or any kind of a mole, for that matter?
OMFG! I’m beginning to think Steele is the feminist mole–either that, or the most talented performance artist since Andy Kaufman.
And raping someone by drugging them is not same as raping them at gunpoint, but they’re both still rape, Tom.
Oh Steele, you really are adorable sometimes.
In Tom Martin’s world, evil child prostitutes prey on innocent adult pedophiles–but only after forcing them to sit on hard chairs.
So you think Martin makes your movement look bad, but Paul Elam doesn`t? Oh that`s rich.
“Martin- the jig’s up, buddy. I will be emailing Elam, Price, Bogen, and others with my suspicions.”
Right here we have a competetion between Tom and Torvus running for Dumbest MRA on Earth. As soon as one seems to pull ahead, the other sinks even lower. Unbelievable! We need Paul Elam to come in and kick both your asses (I mean figuratively, I’m not condoning actual violence).
Wow. That may be the most disgusting sentence that was ever written.
Steele, at least tell me that you do indeed have a hyperbaric chamber.
This conversation officially just improved by 99% when the two MRAs stopped ignoring each other and started arguing. I wish I had some popcorn.
Varpole/Antimanboobz/Torvus Butthorn/Steele vs. Tom Martin: Domo de la Muerte match on pay-per-view.
Martin, and by the way, don’t give me your bullshit- you’re a sad sack of shit. A contemptible, vile misandrist- you heard me right. Rereading your posts I’m developing something approaching a conviction. You try to sabotage a burgeoning human rights movement for- what? Money? Sexual gratification? Or are you just a contemptible mangina?
Vile asswipe.
The Real World – Manboobz. What happens when MRAs stop being polite, and start accusing each other of not being True Scotsmen? Find out in the next 500 comments, 400 of which will be from Steele.
Rape is fucking rape you asshole.
AHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA
I am making popcorn guys! This is gonna be fun!
Varpole/Butthorn/Steele can I make a suggestion? There’s this thing called a thesaurus, you can buy one or even find one online! Because your use of the word vile is starting to get really repetitive.
Tom what will you do?? He is calling you a feminist in disguise! D:
Tom Martin is a misandrist? Are you fucking kidding me?
Oh, so now instead of just paying him off we’re sleeping with him too? This is getting elaborate.
Y’know, there are already feminist men. Why would we need to hire an outside agent? We could just stake one of our guys for the court costs and then we wouldn’t have to worry.
(Also this is hilariously wrong, and no feminist organization that has £37,000 on hand gives a shit about making MRAs look bad in the comments to some blog.)
I do want Martin to start answering Tom, though. Like really want it. I’ll make popcorn.
AND he is calling him a prostitute, to boot!!
This. Is. Amazing!!!
(Guys, gentle reminder that sex work is not a bad thing, and if we keep using “prostitute” the way we were previously using “w**re, we’re buying into the same attitudes.)
Come on, Tom, you’re not going to take that, are you? Fight back! What are you, some kind of mangina?
I predict that if Tom actually answers Steele this will be the best thread in Manboobz history.
i picked the wrong month to stop drinking
Please stop. Seriously.
You know, you can just denounce him unequivocally. Really, you’re halfway there. Denouncing Martin unequivocally doesn’t have to be this big -and stupid- production of accusing him of some sort of nebulous, double-agent bullshit. Doesn’t it bother you, all the lazy cowardice?
Be courageous.
I dunno, it’ll be hard to beat the time that Yoga Is A Cult troll became best buddies with Ami’s sockpuppet.
People are fat because they don’t have jobs? What about jobs that are more likely to make you fat like office work? What is happening? Where am I?
And no, MRAs never stoop to calling the opposing feminists fat. They didn’t insert fat into David’s name either. They don’t have posts basically saying that women being fat is a crime against men.
They also have beef with “ugly” women. Being ugly is as much a choice as being bald. Either you shell out ridiculously large amounts of money to get corrective surgery, or you deal with it. But guess whose treatment is harsher, ugly women or bald men? Don’t say bald men. Nobody gives a shit if you’re bald, seriously.
@Cassandra
Just watching Mikey go from mildly positing his ridiculous theory, to working himself up into a frothy rage over said theory, has already made this in the top 3 for me
Steele, you know what they say… a house divided against itself cannot stand…
in other news… oh dear lord I lurk too much and comment too little on here. the Mister and I can’t stop laughing at this newest development in the Real MRAs Of Man Boobz!
(tune in next time… will Tom succeed at pitching his new documentary? will SteelePole FINALLY be unmasked FOR GOOD?)
Cliff, duly noted.
@ Shadow
It happened so quickly, too! The fact that Tom is both an MRA and a disgusting human being is simply too much for Mikey’s simplistic little brain to handle, so Tom must be made to be not-an-MRA before Mikey starts to spin around in circles and beep like a broken robot.
Synonyms for vile: mean. base. villainous. nasty. foul. scurvy. sordid.
And yes, let’s stop hating on sex workers. That’s Tom’s deal. (I apologize if I said anything that sounded like hating on sex workers, which I well might have.)
Steele,
I spent a long time arguing with anti-feminist men’s rights activists about the benefits of pro-feminism, so I was largely hated by MRAs.
Then, I met lots and lots of feminists, on internet forums, at LSE’s Gender Institute, during media debates coming up to my court case, on manboobz, and so on, and I have looked feminists in the eyes whilst eloquent speakers talk about compelling reasons to include men’s issues in feminism’s considerations, and I have seen it, as the feminists just go dead behind the eyes. There is a complete switch off when talking about male victims. Their consciences appear to leave their bodies. It’s like a vacuum. Nothing. It is totally fascistic. And this is when the cameras are on their faces (so imagine what these fems are like in their sex segregated cabals).
The expressions they pull, are exactly the same as when a guy goes up to an attractive girl and hits on her and she’s not interested. A kind of rolling eyes to the sky non-plussedness.
It looks like feminists cannot distinguish between a man asking for a date, and a man asking for feminism to take men’s issues seriously. It looks like these fems are using the same parts of their brain to dismiss the notion of enfranchising men in whatever political regard, as they would to Darwinianly dismiss the approaches of a man not up to their genetic standard. That is the level of it, and I am not talking about idiot feminists. I’m talking about elite students, in the top universities.
Once you’ve seen it, clumps of feminists all doing the same eye-rolling, despite the most compelling arguments by the MRAs there, then you know that the women attracted to feminism are the enemies of equality. They’re too young to even be able to remember when feminism was even allegedly about equality anyway.
Women’s groups today are doing their best to roadblock equality.
Quite why Douchetrelle plays along, I don’t know.
Perhaps he’s well read (like me), and thinks that he gets that feminism is all a strategically framed piece of reverse psychology towards nevertheless, achieving equality – and if so, I’m thinking he hasn’t got out there and met many feminists, because when that happens, reality hits home, and anyone who has witnessed it will realize that its not that deep for the fem drones – They’re just *****s.
I’ll bet this conspiracy goes to the very top of the feminist politburo. There’s no way Futrelle could have sponsored Martin without help from higher up. But how high up does it go? Amanda Marcotte? Gloria Steinem? The cryogenically preserved brain of Andrea Dworkin? We are through the looking glass, people!
@Tom Martin:
versus liberal feminism (“teenage girls like sex just as much as teenage boys”)
Sure they do, I don’t think anyone said teenage girls hate sex. However, 10 year olds, not so much. It’s the fact that you see children that young as predatory creatures out to take advantage of pedophiles rather than the other way around that makes me think you are a few sandwiches short of a picnic. How anyone can think a parent or other figure of authority in a child’s life is incapable of manipulating them into prostitution for their own selfish ends (and why that is considered taking advantage of someone who doesn’t share the same mental capacity of an adult) is utterly mind boggling. I’ve never heard *anyone* say pimps are just brokers before. How does one get this out of touch with reality?
@Cassandra
As with antimanboobz, his melodramatic take on everything makes his piddling views so much funnier!! The whole “must be a feminist mole” thing has shown up so many times, but I unequivocally declare Mikey’s to be the greatest iteration yet
Steele hasn’t just jumped the shark, he’s done pirouettes around it.
Tom, the only one dead behind the eyes about men and boys is you. You are the one who argued that the boy who started being exploited by grown men at 7 was choosing that life.
@CB
All tools to the shadow network of lizard people, who put up the 37 large for this elaborate take down of this fledgling human rights movement
Steele, I am pretty sure he’s calling you a coward. What do you have to say to that?
The expressions they pull, are exactly the same as when a guy goes up to an attractive girl and hits on her and she’s not interested. A kind of rolling eyes to the sky non-plussedness.
Does this tend to happen more when you are talking about hard chairs, child prostitution, or bald rights?
Martin:
I agree with much of what you say.
It looks like feminists cannot distinguish between a man asking for a date, and a man asking for feminism to take men’s issues seriously. It looks like these fems are using the same parts of their brain to dismiss the notion of enfranchising men in whatever political regard, as they would to Darwinianly dismiss the approaches of a man not up to their genetic standard. That is the level of it, and I am not talking about idiot feminists. I’m talking about elite students, in the top universities.
If you’re sincere- spot on, and a very interesting way to look at it.
But Martin- I don’t think you’re sincere, is the thing. You’ve spent the past week here at Boobzland publicly and loudly condoning child rape, child prostitution and other grossly immoral and criminal behavior. What you’ve said is some of the most vile crap I’ve ever read, and I’ve read Andrea Dworkin. You attempt to placate me now with righteous MRA rhetoric- and it is righteous- but I can’t believe it’s anything but a smokescreen for your sabotage. All all the weasel words in the word can’t distract me now, mangina.
Did feminists email you that response you just putted out? Or have you been trained? Chickenshit feminist.
All tools to the shadow network of lizard people, who put up the 37 large for this elaborate take down of this fledgling human rights movement
Of course! It’s the lizard people! Where’s NWOslave when you need him? He’d know about this stuff!
Steele, Tom is a true blue MRA, who took some of the MRA talking points to a extreme conclusion. He is just willing to throw more men and boys under the bus than you are.
Who trained you, Tom? Who? We have ways of finding out, you know.
You’re absolutely right, and I did not think of how it may have come across that way. Thank you for the gentle reminder.
Some call Eurosabra, international man of mystery! He must know some spies.
themisanthropicmuse said:
I’ve never heard *anyone* say pimps are just brokers before. How does one get this out of touch with reality?
You’ve never heard anyone say it before, because it is an original thought from me. The fact that you have to check if you’ve heard it before to work out whether the analysis has legitimacy or not says a lot.
Brokers or agents or managers arrange gigs, and take a cut of the profits.
Pimps or madams or “traffickers” arrange gigs, and take a cut of the profits.
Some acts can get by without an agent, but most acts prefer to have an agent.
Likewise, prostitutes can get by without a pimp, but most prefer pimps.
Incidentally, anecdotal evidence from the US, says a pimp’s life expectancy is even lower than a prostitute’s – so don’t take the line too seriously, that the pimp is using the prostitute.
Pulling out Dworking is like Godwinning to these people!
Someone…
Dworkin, dammit! She isn’t a gerund!
This thread is amazing.