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The wit and wisdom of the guy who created that “beat up Anita Sarkeesian” game

Yesterday I wrote about a vile online game in which players were invited to “beat up Anita Sarkeesian,” the feminist cultural critic who’s faced endless harassment because she had the temerity to ask for donations to fund a video project looking at sexist tropes in video games.

The game, which (happily) has been removed from Newgrounds.com, where it was originally posted, was put together by a young Canadian gamer named Bendilin Spurr. On the game’s page, he offered this explanation as to why he created the game:

Anita Sarkeesian has not only scammed thousands of people out of over $160,000, but also uses the excuse that she is a woman to get away with whatever she damn well pleases. Any form of constructive criticism, even from fellow women, is either ignored or labelled to be sexist against her.

She claims to want gender equality in video games, but in reality, she just wants to use the fact that she was born with a vagina to get free money and sympathy from everyone who crosses her path.

That doesn’t really explain much, as asking people for voluntary donations to a video project is a far cry from “scamming,” especially since she’d asked for far less, and that the misogynist backlash to her project began long before she’d collected anywhere near this amount.

It also doesn’t quite explain why Bendilin felt that a Sarkessian-punching game was the best format to make this, er, critique.

Last night, after learning from the comments here that young Bendilin had a profile on Steam and a Twitter account, I decided to peruse both to see if I could find more clues that might explain his foul game.

On his Steam profile, he’s set forth his basic philosophy of life, video games, and how much women suck:

I think it’s just adorable how absolutely no girls are any good at video games, just like how no woman has ever written a good novel. They are nothing but talk and no action, probably because girls are such emotional creatures and base everything they do on their current feelings and then try to rationalize their actions later. How pathetic.

You know what’s priceless? When a gamer girl posts a pic of herself looking as slutty as possible and then throws a fake fit when people talk to her like she’s a whore. What did you think was going to happen, you dumb broad? Lose thirty pounds.

Sadly, these aren’t terribly rare or original opinions for a young male gamer.

Over on Twitter, Bendilin has offered a number of conflicting explanations for why he felt so much hostility for Sarkeesian and her video project that he felt justified in creating a video game devoted to punching her in the face.

There’s the fiscal argument:

There’s the laziness argument:

There’s the rather strange argument that Sarkeesian is not taking the proper time to research the subject, although she has not yet started the project. (Also, one of the reasons she was asking for money was so that she could take the time to research the subject properly.)

The “nuh-uh you’re wrong” argument:

The “she won’t listen to me argument.” Part one: The Lego Incident

And Part 2, in which our hero explains that making a video game about punching someone in the face is a great way to open a dialogue with them:

Naturally, Bendilin, like most misogynists, fervently denies that he’s a misogynist:

Yep, that’s right. The guy whose Steam profile claims that “absolutely no girls are any good at video games” and that “no woman has ever written a good novel,” and who decided to express his criticism for a video project that hasn’t even started by making a video game in which players punch the woman behind it in the face, is angry that anyone might conclude that he hates women.

Well, Bendilin, if you wanted to defend video games and the gaming community at large from charges of sexism, you’ve done a bang-up job of it.

UPDATE: Bendilin is also an artist! Here, Virgil Texas takes a look at Bendilin’s erotically charged Sonic the Hedgehog art.

That last paragraph and the update contained

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Posted on July 8, 2012, in antifeminism, bullying, harassment, irony alert, men who should not ever be with women ever, misogyny, narcissism, oppressed men, pussy pass, vaginas, violence. Bookmark the permalink. 1,286 Comments.

  1. I am referring to the fact of the doctrine, which is objective, against simple misconceptions of said doctrine.

    language is a consensus issue. We don’t have consensus about misandry (well, in the broader sense manboobzers do). As a culture it’s a marginal word, used by a small group. You, as a member of that fringe-group would like to see it spread.

    You came here trying to make us accept at least a small aspect of that usage (supra, where I positted you wanting to use a small admission, of individual misandry to justify describing it at institutional, which you later admitted to believing).

    You would have made gains if we’d accepted it, because, we are, by and large, feminist. Getting feminists to buy off on misandry would be a big win.

    But the broader society doesn’t agree with you about the word, and we wouldn’t accept even a narrow use of it, so u has a big sad.

    Poor diddums.

  2. Well, I had to go to Youtube for some animal therapy after that revolting little rape fantasy of Steele’s. I found a video of a dog and a crow playing ball. It was quite soothing, so I’ll share:

  3. I bet you really hate the fact that I’m getting a PhD, don’t you? In a heroic, masculine field, no less. I hope the thought warms you at night, I do.

    Don’t care. The fact that you think I do is more projection and paranoia on your part.

  4. magpie, Steele’s boy is all his twisted little brain. And I have a lovely partner who wants me to come to bed, so I’ll be back in the morning.

    I’d say not to be too hard on the boy, but he’s made of Steele, and I suspect you can’t dent his sense of smug self-righteous satisfaction.

  5. Rayford Steele can go step on a lego for using ToySoldier’s suffering for his own amusement, and Tom Martin can go sit on a hard chair for using male DV victims for his stupid arguments. People are real and now they’re putting anti-aircraft guns on rooves of blocks of flats and politicians are happy when refugees drown and the world’s going to hell and Magpie’s going to curl up in a corner and turn into NWO. Except without the hate.

    Kittens?

  6. “If you think I am a “fringe group”- if you think that “misogyny” is only used to refer to highbrow, monocled “systematic injustice”- I don’t know what to say to you. I’d invite you to join me in reality, if you’re so inclined. I’d also invite you to take it up with Merriam-Webster. I’d invite you to consider efficiency and context. Contemptible idiot. Arrogant scumbag,” Steele huffed as he drew his katana. Many lay slain on the field of Internet this day, but the wankery was not yet complete. Oh no. He would make sure of that.

  7. If you think I am a “fringe group”- if you think that “misogyny” is only used to refer to highbrow, monocled “systematic injustice”- I don’t know what to say to you. I’d invite you to join me in reality, if you’re so inclined. I’d also invite you to take it up with Merriam-Webster. I’d invite you to consider efficiency and context. Contemptible idiot. Arrogant scumbag,

    Steele huffed as he drew his katana. Many lay slain on the field of Internet this day, but the wankery was not yet complete. Oh no. He would make sure of that.

  8. @Steele:

    You know what’s much more persuasive than bluster? Sources! For example…

    “Though most common in men, misogyny also exists in and is practiced by women against other women or even themselves. Misogyny functions as an ideology or belief system that has accompanied patriarchal, or male-dominated societies for thousands of years [emphasis mine] and continues to place women in subordinate positions with limited access to power and decision making. …”

  9. As a culture it’s a marginal word, used by a small group. You, as a member of that fringe-group would like to see it spread.

    This is accurate. It is a fringe word. But it is not fringe in the sense that we consider “isolated” misandry to be valid misandry. It’s simply fringe in that it is not used at all. And if common parlance of “misogyny” is any indication, when misandry makes it big it will also be used to describe individual instances of anti-male bigotry.

    Contemptible jackass.

    It is the critical theorists who are the fringe.

  10. Uh, Steele, I’m pretty sure that Pecunium knows that the term “critical theory” is a perfectly valid sociological term. Pecunium was referring to your use of the word “misandry”, not “critical theory.”

  11. Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III

    Dude, this is so easily solved:

    1 – you do not think you need to show evidence of systemic prejudice against men to justify the existence of the word “misandry”.
    2 – everyone you have been arguing with does.

    But wait-

    3 – you say you have evidence that systemic prejudice against men exists and is a real problem

    There’s your workaround! Prove point three, and the conflict between points one and two vanishes instantly!

    You… can prove point three, right?

  12. Oops, sorry.

    Don’t care. The fact that you think I do is more projection and paranoia on your part.

    Paranoia? I enjoy my life. i’m going to Vienna in two weeks and I’m going to spend the rest of the summer doing research. That’ll kick ass. What have you done with your life in this world?

  13. Contemptible jackass.

    It is the critical theorists who are the fringe.

    What did the Frankfurt School ever do to you, man?

  14. @kirbywarp,

    But is that source on the MRA-approved sources list?

  15. @Pam:

    Well, it does say that misogyny is a thing, so probably no. Also it doesn’t talk mention misandry once!

  16. And with that, I am done with this discussion.

    I’ll only say: Misandry is a word. It is defined- which I’m sure really gets your goat. And this is true no matter how much you wail and rationalize and justify and stamp your feet. I will continue to use the term. And more and more people are hearing it.

    You’re on the wrong side of history, bucko.

    – Steele

  17. And with that, I am done with this discussion.

    Dude, it gets less convincing every time.

  18. You’re on the wrong side of history, bucko.

    This is really great, coming from someone with your grasp of statistics.

  19. Hee hee. As soon as I trot out a source that shows how misogyny is used to describe a societal thing, Steele throws up his hands and leaves in a huff and a “You’re wrong and that’s that.”

    Of course. See you again tomorrow, Steele.

  20. It is the critical theorists who are the fringe.

    Yeah. I mean, who uses the definition of misogyny found in critical theory? Well, other than all of academia. Really, it’s the people who actually study misogyny who are on the fringe when it comes to defining the term.

    (This is why when biologists try to explain the definition of “theory” to creationists parroting the “evolution is only a theory” line of argument, it’s the creationists who are right. The biologists are just the fringe.)

  21. Also it doesn’t talk mention misandry once!

    Well then, we can just toss that source out with the bathwater.

  22. Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III

    12.04 – can he beat his record?

  23. This is really great, coming from someone with your grasp of statistics.

    I mean, frankly, how would you know whether you were on the right side of history or not?

  24. Oh, actually the wiki entry on misogyny does mention misandry! Keep in mind that Micahel Flood is the guy who I quoted originally.

    In comparing misogyny with misandry, sociologist Michael Flood, at the University of Wollongong, has argued that “misandry lacks the systemic, transhistoric, institutionalized, and legislated antipathy of misogyny.”

    Obviously Michael Flood is a feminazi sympathizer, and is not a legitimate source for Steele. Funny how every quoted authority on misogyny seems to fail the same test.

  25. Yes, they all fail the gold standard of agreeing with him.

  26. And with that, I am done with this discussion.

    Again?

  27. Argenti Aertheri

    “Kittens?”

    Yes

    And also tiny pigs

    “Steele huffed as he drew his katana. Many lay slain on the field of Internet this day, but the wankery was not yet complete. Oh no. He would make sure of that.”

    *is ready* (I seriously have that game paused currently)

  28. @Magpie: here, a fawn grooming a kitteh.

  29. Yeah, he’s probably off to read some more authoritative works… perhaps something by Warren Farrell …

  30. Argenti Aertheri

    And since I love dictionary trolls —

    pro·jec·tion, noun
    1. a projecting or protruding part.
    2. the state or fact of jutting out or protruding.
    3. a causing to jut or protrude.
    4. the act, process, or result of projecting.
    5. Cartography . a systematic construction of lines drawn on a plane surface representative of and corresponding to the meridians and parallels of the curved surface of the earth or celestial sphere.
    6. Photography .
    a. the act of reproducing on a surface, by optical means, a remote image on a film, slide, etc.
    b. an image so reproduced.
    7. the act of visualizing and regarding an idea or the like as an objective reality.
    8. something that is so visualized and regarded.
    9. calculation of some future thing: They fell short of their projection for the rate of growth.
    10. the act of communicating distinctly and forcefully to an audience.
    11. Psychology .
    a. the tendency to ascribe to another person feelings, thoughts, or attitudes present in oneself, or to regard external reality as embodying such feelings, thoughts, etc., in some way.
    b. Psychoanalysis . such an ascription relieving the ego of a sense of guilt or other intolerable feeling.
    12. the act of planning or scheming.
    13. Alchemy . the casting of the powder of philosophers’ stone upon metal in fusion, to transmute it into gold or silver.

    The common usage is usually 11a in this context.

    par·a·noi·a, noun
    1. Psychiatry . a mental disorder characterized by systematized delusions and the projection of personal conflicts, which are ascribed to the supposed hostility of others, sometimes progressing to disturbances of consciousness and aggressive acts believed to be performed in self-defense or as a mission.
    2. baseless or excessive suspicion of the motives of others.

    Please stop mis-using psych terms, it makes my brain ache, I spent way too much time and money on a psych degree to listen to you go on about “projection and paranoia”.

  31. D’aaaawwww! Tiny pig is freaking ADORABLE.

  32. Kittens cure everything!!!!!! Same with playful crows, affectionate fawns and teensy-weensy piggies. May I won’t hide in the corner, but go outside and play with the chooks instead.

  33. Argenti Aertheri

    So much inter-species D’AWWW — crows are kind of scary smart —

    Considering they can supposedly remember faces for 2 decades and hold a grudge, I wouldn’t want to cross a crow.

  34. Argenti Aertheri

    Y U NO EMBED?!

    The second one is a crow using a tool to get a tool to get a tool to get some food…scary smart.

  35. CassandraSays

    “I’m done. Not like last time, this time I mean it. In fact, you might say I’m overdone. Overdone to the point of absurdity, even.

    Also, misandry is a real thing, because I say so, and my anecdotes are important. And with that, I’m done. For now. Maybe.

    Signed,

    The greatest talent that the world of literature never got to know, because of misandry, which means that one teacher who was mean to me. Also, once again, I’m done.”

  36. Sir Bodsworth:

    I say again – my copy of the Shorter Oxford English Dictionary doesn’t include the word at all. Are you saying “my” dictionary is incorrect?

    I’m afraid in the interests of scholarly accuracy, I have to confirm that ‘misandry’ is in the longer Oxford English Dictionary, where it’s defined as “[mass noun] the hatred of men (i.e. the male sex specifically).”

    But that doesn’t come remotely close to proving that it’s a widespread problem, and the fact that it’s not included in the shorter edition of the dictionary (which, despite being ‘shorter’, is still pretty comprehensive) speaks volumes in itself. The OED is not renowned as a bastion of feminist dogma.

    Equally revealing is the fact that Steele had to make up a scenario and then go puce-faced with outrage that we didn’t show any sympathy for a wholly imaginary child.

    Where do these people come from?

  37. Argenti Aertheri

    Wetherby — thanks for that OED answer, I was wondering how it didn’t have the word, considering it is English, and has been said more than once, and thus kind of belongs in there (I wonder if Steele has any idea how dictionaries work…) Is refudiate in there?

  38. Is refudiate in there?

    No, but I suspect it was coined much too recently. And it has to pass a minimum test of usage in the real world to be included.

  39. Oh, and another little scholarly nugget thrown up by the dictionary: ‘misogyny’ has been recorded as part of the English language since the mid-17th century, whereas ‘misandry’ wasn’t coined until the 1940s.

  40. Imagine is every women stop doing everything once ONE person (even unsupported by society at large) told them their gender is not good at doing it. There would be not one frigging female driver, not one woman working in hard sciences, not one woman playing sport. (or just the ‘feminine’ ones, like dance)
    But there are!

  41. Steele, if you want to talk to a group of people that don’t recognize your use of a specific word (and even the dictionaries don’t all agree on the matter), the only sensible thing to do is to move on. If by misandry you mean ‘individual hatred of men’, just say that. It’s really not that hard.

  42. ShadetheDruid

    I looked up “dragon” in the dictionary. Does that mean they’re real now? :O

    If by misandry you mean ‘individual hatred of men’, just say that. It’s really not that hard. – Kyrie

    Even better than that, we already have words to use (“prejudice” and “sexism”). MRAs must know these words exists. It’s totally not about words though, they just want to imply that there’s an equivalent to misogyny.

    Though if misandry and misogyny were equivalent, wouldn’t that just make them both redundant as a term, since then society would just be misanthropic? o.O

  43. ShadetheDruid

    That’s not to say that MRAs would accept “misogyny” as a problem to go with their “misandry”. It was just a little thought experiment. :P

  44. Argenti Aertheri

    “Though if misandry and misogyny were equivalent, wouldn’t that just make them both redundant as a term, since then society would just be misanthropic? o.O”

    Either that or pro-non-binaries, which um…it ain’t.

  45. Steele: I think the actual usage theory to be correct. And I’m working to keep that usage to the fringe group you belong too.

    I’m a linguist. I care that words are used well, clearly, and with a relevant purpose.

    Nope, you’re wrong. I did not make up the term “critical theory”; it is a term to refer to the sociological usage because, in fact, it is not the only usage.

    I never said you made up the idea of critical theory. I said you were talking out of your ass when you said: You consider the critical theory approach the only valid use of either word.

    Again, that teacher, probably did you a favor. You are not good at reading, you are not good at writing, and you are shit lousy at framing an argument. Hard as it may be to believe (I have a hard time believing it, and I have 17 pages of comments worth of evidence staring me in the face) you are worse at making arguments than you are at framing them.

    Because there is some kernel of an argument in you idea of misandry (small kernel), but things like this, where you attribute ideas, motives and intent, to people, and then insist on those ideas, motives and intents, when they have told you otherwise… fruitless to the point of idiocy.

    I never said, for example, that misogyny is only for “highbrow, monocled ‘systematic injustice’.” I said that a single instance of rape/abuse isn’t, prima facie misogyny.

    I never said that it’s impossible for a person to hate men.

    What I have said is your bobbing and weaving, twisting and dodging, lying and gaslighting aren’t persuading me of your honest motives, honest intent, nor honest intentions.

    Which means I’m not going to give you support in your campaign.

    Yes,I do think you are fringe member, of a fringe group. Show me the hordes of MRAs working (in practical ways) to get laws changed? You can’t.

    There is “Register Her”, a site dedicated to harassment of women Elam doesn’t like.

    There is r/mensrights… a wankfest of woman hating.

    There is AvFM… much the same as r/menrights.

    There is the Spearhead, a cesspool of woman hating.

    The was Tom Martin’s lawsuit. I have to give it to him, he actually tried. Lost, terribly, but he did try.

    The thing is all they have to scream about (and they do) is how nasty women are, and how they ruined it for everyone by getting the vote, and demanding to be treated as equals.

    For daring to say she was going to look at tropes in the video gaming industry another member of your fringe made a game where she gets beaten to a pulp.

    This is the start to which you’ve hitched your wagon. A group the SPLC has said is full of misogyny, and has the earmarks of a nascent hate group. What it doesn’t have is (thank God) the organisation.

    If it did, then not just the Lépines, and the Sodonis, and the Thomas balls but, and the Virginia Tech Shooters, and the guys who shoot up hair-salons to kill their wives; and the people around their wives (because she was daring to ask for more time with the kids, and refusing to make him the sole decider of everything), would all be on the slate. That would make it a hate group.

    So be glad you are in a fringe moment, it’s what keeping you from being lumped in with the Klan and The Order.

  46. Steele: I’d invite you to consider efficiency and context.

    I did

    You didn’t pay attention.

    Any more than you did to the facts about Vietnam, or fulfilling your promise to give us videos celebrating the real deaths of real people.

  47. Steele: It is a fringe word.

    He admits it!

    It’s simply fringe in that it is not used at all.

    He concedes our every point.

    This will, of course, not change his quixotic quest, to move this fringe word, that is not used at all, to a place of prominence.

    That, of course could happen. If misandry as a thing were to become a real thing.

    Which would suck. It would also mean, however, some long time of actual equality between the sexes had taken place. He’s a dreamer this one is.

    I’ll only say: Misandry is a word. It is defined- which I’m sure really gets your goat.

    Not as much as verbing nouns does, or the use of adjectives when adverbs are appropriate, or weaselling little twits who get my hopes up and fail to stick the flounce (though really, the first two bother me a lot more).

  48. Cloudiah: That guinea pig is no baby.

    Argenti: I recommend, “In the company of crows and ravens”. There are magpies which pass the mirror test. First go.

    Some other magpies can count, at least to six.

    Crows manage to communicate to each other: Tey sleep in “rookeries”. At the end of the day they stream back. A farmer was upset at them (sometimes they’d come and snack on his crops enroute). So he shot a few.

    The entire rookery stopped passing his field; the next day.

    Crows in Japan have learned to use stop signs to open nuts. They flit down to place them where the cars will have to stop, then they fly out to eat the easy pickings.

    They have created ball games at tennis courts.

    They can live as long as eight, and tend to live in the 30-40 range in the wild.

    VoIP: I assume the high-five was for my Korea/Vietnam comparison? He really didn’t want to talk about that, I can’t imagine why.

    Wetherby: And even with the word being in the dictionary from the 1940s, in going on seventy years it’s not gained widespread usage. I wonder why that is? Maybe it doesn’t happen much.

  49. Carp… as long as eighty years.

  50. I am referring to the fact of the doctrine, which is objective, against simple misconceptions of said doctrine.

    SteeleTroll seems to think there’s a simple “reality” that is factual out there that is labelled by language.

    He is wrong.

    Now, scientists/math dudes and all have developed OTHER symbol systems to TRY to describe some of the realities (gravity, etc.), I know–I’m a very small ‘p’ postmodernist, BUT when we’re talking things like social constructions of gender roles in which the “realities” are created in large part by language (first question asked about newborn: is it a boy or a girl, even if technology lets us now get an answer earlier), then, no, you cannot talk about facts that easily.

  51. Also: “doctrine” is not even closely equivalent to “fact”:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doctrine

    Doctrine (from Latin: doctrina) is a codification of beliefs or a body of teachings or instructions, taught principles or positions, as the body of teachings in a branch of knowledge or belief system. The Greek analogue is the etymology of catechism.[1]

  52. VoIP: What did the Frankfurt School ever do to you, man?

    *spits coke zero all over the freaking place*

    **mops up**

    ***fangirl squee at ya!***

  53. captainbathrobe

    PROJECTION AND PARANOIA!

  54. @Pecunium That I post other peoples’ YouTube videos should not be taken as an endorsement of their metadata. :-)
    But I really logged on to report that per David, Steele and Varpole have different IP addresses and geographic locations. Perhaps there really is a MRA phrase book?

  55. @VoIP re: Taiping Rebellion

    I guess that depends a little bit on your definition of “conscription.” Bannermen were born owing the government military service, and did not have the option to opt out. Bannermen who defected from their banners would lose their hereditary privilege and also could face exile to the penal colonies in Xinjiang or Tibet. So, I would generally count them as compulsory.

    The Qing standing army was entirely voluntary, but their reservists were not. It was kind of similar to the old fubing militia system: reservists were taken from middle-income families as part of their tax obligation, and called up to serve on a rotating basis. In the Taiping, they called up at least half a million reservists. Deserters were executed. Many of the “local defense” firearms corps that the Qing ordered formed in Taiping-threatened areas were also made compulsory by the local gentry, even though that wasn’t the official government policy.

    I’m between university programs right now and I don’t have access to JSTOR, so I can’t really get at any sources of substance. I remember the book The Taiping Rebellion by Franz Michael was pretty good. Sorry I can’t be more specific.

  56. Revisiting this before reading three pages of comments from overnight, because I was at the library today and have empiricism on my side.

    Steele:

    He said one teacher told him boys can’t write, and this somehow influenced him more than the entire fucking culture telling him the opposite

    Hmmm. Yeah, basically. Maybe evidence that the culture isn’t so stacked in men’s favor as you’d think. But no, that’d go against feminist dogma.

    But you said culture was irrelevant. It was all this one teacher.

    But accepting a bit of your retcon, that you also got messages from sources other than this teacher. So she tells you this, and you look aroundat the big-name authors and see that they’re women? Stephanie King, Tina Clancy, Jane Gresham?

    Or maybe you’re my age, and people were reading Jan McInerny, Betty Easton Ellis, Tammy Wolfe.

    Or you’re a little older, looking up to such literary lights as Norma Mailer and Phyllis Roth.

    The overwhelming majority of authors of fiction and of non-fiction books on nongendered subjects are men. This isn’t some supposedly vague, inchoate cultural message, this is numbers. Who the hell was your teacher, Mandrake the Magician?

    Also, I was given nothing but encouragement by male and female teachers alike, so my anecdata says boys are encouraged just fine.

  57. Also, not checking blockquotes. MISANDRY!

  58. Now then, the fun I missed:

    Steele:

    Question: What if a woman kidnapped a boy and repeatedly raped him over a period of, say, a year, damaged his internal organs, put him in a mental hospital after he was rescued. What if the motive was just “because he was male”?

    Is she a misandrist?

    By your definition, yes, by the definition in use in the world, no.

    However, there are a lot of evils in the world; we don’t have to say it’s misandry to say it’s wrong.

    Steele:

    You would rather play your roundabout rhetorical hobbyhorses that mean nothing, than express unmitigated sympathy for this hypothetical child.

    LOL FOREVER!

    That’s how thought experiments work. I’m not sure what the “right answer” would have been if there were one. I mean, if we said “that’s terrible” you were just going to say “see, I’m right,” so how is this any different except that you didn’t win?

    Incidentally, I’m still waiting for your evidence that (systemic) misandry is a thing.

    Magpie:

    Rayford Steele can go step on a lego for using ToySoldier’s suffering for his own amusement

    Honestly I’m starting to wonder about the possibility that Steele is ToySoldier. In which case he’s entitled to use his suffering however he likes.

    Sir B:

    But wait-

    3 – you say you have evidence that systemic prejudice against men exists and is a real problem

    There’s your workaround! Prove point three, and the conflict between points one and two vanishes instantly!

    If he’s afraid we’re going to evicerate it, that just means he’s not confident in it. If he thinks we’re going to dismiss it, well, so what? Truth doesn’t go away when you stop believing it, after all; our accepting it has no bearing on whether it’s true.

  59. Just throwing this out there-

    If a hypothetical Dwarven Kingdom, led by the King Under the Mountain, was burned to a crisp by a dragon, would you acknowledge that dragons were involved?

    Do you deny that dragon is in the dictionary, and that it means a large and deadly lizard?

    I DEMAND that everyone stop talking about whatever they were talking about and acknowldge that hypothetical dragons are a severe, systemic problem, much worse, in my opinion, than misogyny.

    If this seems unconvincing, it’s only because a dragon ate the part of my brain responsible for making coherent arguments. If you think I’m not making sense, you’ve just proved my point about the harm that dragons are doing to our young men.

  60. You’re a bigoted person, Ugh! This dragon was only reacting to a threat and defending his property, while the dwarfs were trespassing. What about the dragon’s constitutional rights?

  61. @Kyrie

    You only think so because you have bought into pro-draconic dogma. Your experience is valid, except not actually, because I don’t have any dogma and my personal experience includes being partially eaten by a dragon.

    Draconic dogma permeates every part of our society. Propaganda films like How to Train Your Dragon control all young men through guilt, preventing them from realizing the truth and becoming dragonslayers.

    Can you provide absolute, inarguable proof that dragons are not secretly in control of every world government and all media organs? If you can’t prove they aren’t, then that’s absolute proof that they are.

  62. Unimaginative

    A dragon’s only value to society is its teeth and fire. They have to slave away all day long, killing and burning and eating virgins, making enough gold to support the economically underachieving WHORES. You vile, misdragonist scumbags!

    (Yeah, I’ve combined the trolls. What’s it to you? Keeping your story straight is MISANDRY!)

  63. @Unimaginative

    As part of the most important civil rights movement of our age, the Dragonslayers, I am, and always will be, firmly against dragons’s influence in our society.

    However, I do sometimes feel sorry for dragons. They kill all these dwarves to amass treasure just to make maidens pay attention to them, then abduct those maidens. But do those maidens thank them for it? NOO, they’re all like “I want to be with the big strong alpha male knight, when is he going to show up?” Literal white knights always get the girl.

    Nonetheless, as your inability to prove otherwise proves, dragons are the cause of most of the world’s ills, so my sympathy for them is but a passing thing.

  64. I for one would be perfectly happy living under the Drakiarchy.

  65. Also, don’t get me wrong, the Dragonslayers are not a hate movement. The radicals, like Bard or Turin, aren’t REAL Dragonslayers. A real Dragonslayer would never do something as opposed to the spirit and goals of the movement as killing a dragon.

    We simply want to go back to the simpler, happier time, when all dragons were expelled from society and driven north into the frozen wastes. It’ll work out better for everyone; dragons who tell you they don’t like the frozen wastes have just been brainwashed into expecting too much by draconic propaganda.

  66. Unimaginative

    @Ugh: *dies laughing*

  67. @Ugh
    All the dragons I’ve met have been perfectly nice and decent fire-breathing winged lizards, I don’t know what you’re talking about. I mean, look at Dragonheart, the true story of a dragon and a knight cooperating to overthrow an evil king. Can’t you see that the real issue is all the evil royalty that exists?

  68. My personal experience of dragons is that it’s my Chinese zodiac sign. Also, some have the ability of burning wooden chairs. I’m not sure what my point is, well beside that you’re a whore for wanting to steal dragon’s treasures. And you should remember that they walk themselves to the grave, working all day to get their treasures while the government try to just steal it using taxes.

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