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Friday links: What About the Men: The Book, and more harassment of Anita Sarkeesian

Longtime Friend of Man Boobz Ozy Frantz, cofounder of the No Seriously What About teh Menz blog, is writing a book with fellow NSWATMer Noah Brand about men and feminism titled, naturally, What About the Men. The first chapter, written by Ozy, is up on the Good Men Project web site, NSWATM’s (sort of) new home. It’s even got footnotes, and illustrations by Barry Deutsch!

Ozy explains the book’s central aim:

We live in a sexist society, one where gender programming starts at birth (though the advent of the sonogram has allowed parents to get a head start by painting the nursery pink or blue and stocking up in advance on gendered toys and clothes) and is so pervasive as to be inescapable. Feminism has done an excellent job analyzing and challenging the ways that these assigned and enforced gender roles damage and deform the lives of women. The same tools of analysis can be applied to the damage and deformation that men suffer. And that damage, sad to say, is severe.

Yes, that says “CLICK TO HIT HER!”

Meanwhile, over on The New Statesman, Helen Lewis looks at the continuing harassment of Anita Sarkeesian, the women who dared to ask people to donate money for a video series on sexism in video games and thereby unleashed a misogynistic shitstorm.

One of the most disturbing examples of harassment: an online game in which players are invited to “beat up Anita Sarkeesian.” Lewis censors some of the images, but not others, so let me just put a TRIGGER WARNING for depictions of violence against women, including a grotesquely photoshopped “beaten up” Sarkeesian. Anyone who thinks Sarkeesian and her supporters were making too big a deal of the harassment needs to go look at these images in Lewis’ article here. (The game itself, posted on Newgrounds.com, has now been removed.)

Again, this is all because Sarkeesian asked people to donate for a video project. If they felt like it was worthwhile. That’s all she did. And this is what she got in return: someone so angry that Sarkeesian was pointing out sexism in video games that he literally sat down and made a game inviting angry internetters to “beat this bitch up.” Irony doesn’t even begin to cover it.

On Think Progress, Alyssa Rosenberg underlines why we need to take this kind of harassment seriously:

[A]nyone who thinks that feminists who push back hard against online harassment are being oversensitive needs to understand that we’re all trying to keep ourselves from becoming Anita Sarkeesians. No matter how strong you are, and no matter how much support you have, this kind of concentrated campaign of harassment affects the targets of it. And the goal of these campaigns is to terrorize people into silence. It’s not disagreement. It’s not creative trolling. It’s deployment of a weapon.

But it’s just as important to point out that Sarkeesian wasn’t silenced; in addition to helping her raise much more money than she had originally asked for, those who attacked her simply reinforced (and helped to further publicize) the argument she was making — in the case of the “beat up Anita Sarkeesian” game, quite directly indeed. The cowards and assholes who try to shut down feminists online with this sort of harassment are not only losers — they’re losing.

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Posted on July 6, 2012, in antifeminism, feminism, harassment, irony alert, links, masculinity, men who should not ever be with women ever, misogyny, MRA, patriarchy, trigger warning, violence. Bookmark the permalink. 100 Comments.

  1. Unimaginative

    Congratulations, Ozy and Noah! *makes vague gesture of inarticulate support* Keep going :)

  2. CassandraSays

    The vile suggestion that video games, and some of the gamers who play them, are sexist is clearly untrue! And very offensive! Which we will not prove by creating a video game in which we get to beat the shit out of a woman who had the gall to express an opinion about gaming and gamers.

    They really are hilariously lacking in self-awareness, aren’t they?

  3. CassandraSays

    Not = now. I can type good, honest.

  4. Thank you David. :) I should send you a cake* or something. With THANK YOU FOR PROMOTING ALL MY THINGS on it in pink icing.

    *inb4 cake being a lie, forty cakes, asexuality

  5. Ozy, how do you feel about being over at GMP? I’m hearing mixed things about it (although I’m sure you’d be pulling the standards up wherever you were).

  6. QuantumSparkle

    That game sounds like the kind of game preggo-punchout/factfinder would try to pitch. I kind of wish it were his, because it’s disturbing to think there’s more than one asshole who wants to program something that hateful as a game.

  7. I just read your chapter, Ozy. It’s brilliant. I love Ozy’s Law. It’s such a clear way to explain things that I sort of knew but wouldn’t have been able to articulate myself. Now I can!

  8. Katz: My comment-deleting finger is going to get RSI or something.

    Claire: Thank you. :)

  9. This is why I’m a feminist. Because we live in a culture where a woman having an opinion gets her threatened with rape and violently slandered.

    Well we aren’t shutting up you sick fucks, so deal with it :)

  10. And yes, congrats to you and Noah, Ozy!

  11. Sarkeesian’s videos rock!

  12. Sarkeesian should hire a bodyguard. No wait, she won’t need one, because MRAs never get their whiny, worthless asses off the computer to interact IRL.

  13. Congratulations to Ozy and Noah! Y’all are pretty awesome.

  14. Thing about Sarkeesian’s whole situation is that she (as far as I know) still hasn’t made a single video. There’s literally no material for the hoards of trolls and misogynists to be angry about except that she:

    1. Is a woman.
    2. Is planning on making videos about female stereotypes.

    Like, it’s shocking enough that I sorta sit back and see it all and think to myself “Where the hell did this come from?” It’s like there was some sort of invisible hate bubble that for some reason decided to pop at this one person. Either that or Anita’s been a saint in making everything public and harassment on this level is way more common that people think.

    I’d like to think it’s the first option.

  15. Hey guys my mra friend just told me this very disturbing information!!!!

    When no one was looking, Gloria Steinem
    took forty cakes. She took 40 cakes.
    That’s as many as four tens.
    And that’s terrible.

    OMG you guys omg seriously you guys

  16. It’s shit like this that is making me more solidly feminist with each passing day. After a while, I couldn’t stop seeing the gendering, sex discrimination, normalizing, and hierarchy-building. I couldn’t explain it away.

  17. So the maker of the “beat up Anita Sarkeesian” game has both a twitter account and a Steam account which reveal how misogynistic he is. Big surprise, I know, that a guy who makes a game about beating up a woman for being feminist is a misogynist.

    His Steam account contains hateful gems such as “I think it’s just adorable how absolutely no girls are any good at video games, just like how no woman has ever written a good novel.”

    On twitter he gave his reasoning for creating the game, which is something along the lines of “I disagreed with the way Anita Sarkeesian approached the issue, but she wouldn’t talk with me, so I made a game about beating her up.” So yeaaaaahhh… dude has issues.

  18. Molly, that is indeed terrible. A Lex Luthor-worthy heist.

  19. I have a huge amount of respect for women like Anita, who are capable of taking this kind of harassment. I don’t think I would have the guts to resist. And I really liked her previous video, especially the one on Legos.

    Congrats Ozy, I’ll go read that.

  20. There are people on that Thinkprogress comment thread claiming that Anita Sarkeesian’s “business model” was to get harassed and threatened by Internet troglodytes, and therefore everyone who donated to her Kickstarter is somehow being scammed.

    Never mind that the harassment started after the kickstarter was posted. Never mind that she was clear what she’d use the money for, and everyone who chose to donate to her kickstarter knew exactly how much she had already raised. What I’d really like to know is, if that’s her “business model” why are the internet troglodytes playing right into her hands?

    If her business model is
    1) exist
    2) get bombarded with hateful attacks
    3) PROFIT, with bonus SCAM!

    and you hate this, and yet also you’re one of the people that step 2 depends on, why not just stop participating in step 2?

  21. Been here a few times today and keep clicking out. I’m disturbed.
    I really really like Anita, and it’s really really depressing that this is happening. She’s not even that controversial, so it’s this extra reminder that things really are bad out there.

    Ugh, so depressing. That’s all I can muster to say right now.

  22. Sarkeesian should hire a bodyguard. No wait, she won’t need one, because MRAs never get their whiny, worthless asses off the computer to interact IRL.

    But she poked the whole internet’s Sexist Hornets Nest, not just the MRAs. If I were her friend I’d probably insist she not be alone as much as possible, and I hope she’s also keeping the local police informed of the craziest threats. Sure, they can’t really do anything but if something dramatic happened, they’d be in a better position to respond appropriately. Maybe a fraud alert on her SSN with the credit reporting agencies and a couple of other CYA moves, just in case. She’s started a shitstorm large enough that it would be prudent to think about the damage one motivated nutcase can do. An ounce of prevention’s worth a pound of cure and all that.

  23. ShadetheDruid

    This situation is awful, I feel really bad for Anita Sarkeesian. :(

    Something I find really stupid is that there’s people complaining that she made so much more than she asked for. Like it’s somehow her fault that there’s so many people that want to see her do this stuff that the project ended up with massive amounts of funding.

    To me, it seems like it’s all a smokescreen anyway, it’s just cover for them to whine about their horrible “culture” being threatened, and for them to try to keep it the way it is through bullying. They don’t really care about the money, or the people supporting Anita, or even the project (i’m pretty sure once it’s done, they’ll just dismiss it as “pointless and ineffective”).

    They just want the gaming community all to themselves so they can stew in their perceived right to be arseholes and have games cater solely to them (which is funny considering all the whining that goes on when a game isn’t 100% what they want).

    Also, yay Ozy. :D I read the first paragraph or two the other day but then I got distracted, I really need to go back and read the rest.

  24. I see the comment thread over at the Lewis piece has been flooded by the same abusive half-wits that are attacking Sarkeesian:

    Oh Look a women wrote this article and she also looks like a feminist herself (dike)

    Hahahaha Anita got exactly what she deserved. Hard-lined feminist/man-hater with nothing better to do than scam innocent straight men out of their sperm, and the rest of the world out of their money – because she has a vagina, and vaginas SELL. Might just as well have made herself stand on the street corner, selling her vagina to passers-by.

    Woman using Kickstarter to fund a feminist project on the internet = stealing sperm. LOLwut?

  25. creativewritingstudent

    Sperm is money, people! That’s why the petty cash box feels all sticky. :P

  26. Hey Ozy, do you have a timeline for when we might expect to see this in paper form?

  27. Sweet unicycling baby Jesus, why did I read the comments on the NS piece? I was actually one of the writers on the original piece Lewis mentions, I’ve never got so much shit online as I did in the couple of weeks after that. Funnily enough, my piece had said that I didn’t get too many personal attacks but I saw it happen all the time. I then got a load of abuse saying that I should have been getting personal attacks all along…

  28. The same tools of analysis can be applied to the damage and deformation that men suffer. And that damage, sad to say, is severe.

    Feminist tools of analysis take into account the patriarchy and sexist oppression of women, which does not apply to the privileged class (men, here). “Severe damage” of the constraints the privileged class puts on itself to keep separated from the oppressed class, being put side by side with a discussion of the damage done by oppression of women? :\

    (I’m going to once again recommend bell hook’s piece about men in the feminist movement, because she discusses this issue more eloquently and thoroughly than I could here)

    On the other topic, I am saddened by how little this surprises me. Threats of rape, violence, etc. are all too common against feminists and other outspoken women on the internet, sadly.

  29. Great point, David. They are losers. And their book will be a loser too.

  30. Great point, David. They are losers. And their book will be a loser too.

    Ha ha, everyone’s favorite rape-fan sycophant didn’t read the post very carefully.

  31. Great point, David. They are losers. And their book will be a loser too.

    Yeah, Ozy, you loser!

  32. But I’m grateful to Ruby for giving me an honest-to-God belly laugh at the end of a generally pretty depressing comments thread. And unintentional humour is often the funniest.

  33. @darksidecat
    “Feminist tools of analysis take into account the patriarchy and sexist oppression of women, which does not apply to the privileged class (men, here). “Severe damage” of the constraints the privileged class puts on itself to keep separated from the oppressed class, being put side by side with a discussion of the damage done by oppression of women? :\”

    “Feminist tools of analysis?” That is priceless. You’re a tool alrighty. The heralded, sacred analytical tools of feminism. How did the world muddle along for so long without this most precious analytical gift. Tell us all about this tool of analysis contained deep with the divine feminine so the world might bask in the light of feminine glory.

  34. I wonder if Ruby thinks she’s somehow currying favor by dropping in to say “yeah David, you tell ‘em!” on every thread.

  35. @Cliff:

    Wasn’t another comment of hers something along the lines of “you’re right David, everyone in your post is a pathetic basement-dweller.” I swear… I’m more sure than even that she really is making just-barely-horrible comments so that we can agree with her. Then some time down the road she can use it as fodder to show others what terrible people we are, for agreeing with her.

    Either that or she’s playing the long-and-subtle game of interpreting everything David posts as slightly more extreme to try to show everyone that he’s using the same hyperbole and extremist language as othe groups.

    Either that, or I’m giving her wayyy too much credit, and she’s just a fringe dweller who interprets what people say the way she wants, then is shocked — SHOCKED I say — when her comments are criticized. Shocked in a “what? I’m just saying what we’re all secretly thinking” kind of way.

  36. @ozymandias42
    “Katz: My comment-deleting finger is going to get RSI or something.”

    Of that I have no doubt. The echo chamber must be kept in total agreement.

  37. Kirby – I think she may also be under the impression that she’s a commenter in good standing on this blog, but there sure are a lot of trolls here who pick on her! So she still considers herself a friend of Manboobz, just not of certain annoying commenters here, and is totally oblivious how it comes off when she posts “Great post David!” right after defending prison rape.

  38. ShadetheDruid

    There is another option: like I said in one of the other topics, she’s probably just trolling for a reaction now.

  39. @ShadetheDruid:

    Oh trolling…

    “Hmm, you know what I’m gonna do? Yeah… I’m gonna say something terrible. Not just terrible though, INFURIATINGLY terrible! Yeah, that’s the ticket. And then I’m gonna put what I say online, and then I’m gonna wait. Just wait. Wait until someone reacts to my terribleness by saying it’s terrible. I’m gonna make them ANGRY, yeah, I’m gonna make them FURIOUS over my words. And when they post that furious response I’m gonna laugh. Oh yes, I’m gonna laugh at how they called my terrible words terrible, because I don’t actually think that! Ha ha, I don’t actually think terrible things, but now they think that i do think terrible things! Oh yeah, then I’ll have won!

    It will be glorious!”

  40. Well we aren’t shutting up you sick fucks, so deal with it

    *high-five*

  41. Great point, David. They are losers. And their book will be a loser too.

    Wow. I can honestly say that up to now I didn’t think Ruby was quite this stupid.

  42. I have to say, if your business model is dependent on the video gaming community being so horribly sexist that you will get sympathy and promotion and donations, and that this is predictable enough that you can base your business model on it… well, that’s not really a *defense* to the whole “the video gaming community is sexist” thing.

    Also, I hate the whole “gamers are just like that” meme. No. No they fucking AREN’T. My boyfriend is a gamer and a feminist. My best friend is a gamer and a feminist. There are Manboobz people who are gamers and feminists. The Escapist Magazine has people writing for it that are gamers and feminists. BEING ANTI-SEXIST DOES NOT MAGICALLY TAKE AWAY YOUR ABILITY TO PLAY A VIDEO GAME. If they can do it, so can you.

    Viscaria: Noooo idea. We have yet to actually sell the thing. :) Why can’t publishers just beat down my door for being awesome, I ask you.

  43. QuantumSparkle

    Just got a chance to read your first chapter. It sounds like the book will be great, and an interesting read. I hope a hundred publishers all compete to be the one to publish you.

  44. ShadetheDruid

    kirbywarp: Nah, I don’t think the trolling started until after she worked out we were just going to call her a horrible person for her views on rape whenever she tried to be relevent.. so she just stopped being relevent entirely.

    Every time she posts I feel like we’re a bear and she’s poking us with a stick just to see what happens, which doesn’t require her to make any sense.

    Who knows though really. I definitely wouldn’t like to see inside her mind to find out. O.O

  45. Great point, David. They are losers. And their book will be a loser too.

    thank you for bringing your consistently high level of insight and wit to this comment thread

  46. I think she may also be under the impression that she’s a commenter in good standing on this blog, but there sure are a lot of trolls here who pick on her! So she still considers herself a friend of Manboobz, just not of certain annoying commenters here, and is totally oblivious how it comes off when she posts “Great post David!” right after defending prison rape.

    That’s exactly the feeling I get. Just like I believe Slavey does believe he’s the only non-racist here, I totally believe Ruby thinks she’s the only one who has a moral reaction to the rape of BAD people. Though I think she probably also realizes, at some level, that her position is not so solid, which is why she so rarely engage, and just repeat the same things.

  47. Bwahahahahahahaha
    Oh ruby you must have skimmed the post, or you couldn’t resist trolling. Long live commenting on random articles trying to make yourself look normal!

    Well now that we know you post without reading what do you have to say for yourself? XD

  48. Or she might actually think that Ozy is a loser, you can never know…

  49. what do you have to say for yourself

    that’s strawmanning

  50. Or she might actually think that Ozy is a loser, you can never know…

    well yeah, have you ever heard ozy talk about zir rich husband?

  51. Oh, Ruby. Way to show off your mad comprehension skills.

  52. Those attacks on Anita Sarkeesian are horrible. I’ve read some comments that excused the attacks as simple trolling, but if you’re using threats of violence and out-and-out misogyny to troll, how is that different from actual threats of violence and out-and-out misogyny? I mean, if you’re upset that an African-American man is researching racism online and to troll him, you call him the n-word, how is that not racist? That makes no sense to me.

    It’s also been discouraging to watch what happened on the Free Thought Blogs. I’m not an atheist, but I enjoy reading Pharyngula. Elevatorgate shocked me, so much of what appeared to me to be deliberate dismissals of what most women were saying. I thought, though, that some enlightenment had occurred. But you couldn’t prove it by the last week or so of Thunderfoot’s posts on his blog (now no longer at FTB) and many of the comments.

    It really is like picking up a rock and seeing the ugly worms and insects underneath it.

    I guess the good news is that Sarkeesian got so many pledges and P Z Myers is a strong supporter of women. The bad news is just how many hate-filled people there are in the world.

  53. Great post, David. Thanks for your support of prison rape.

    Love,
    Ruby

  54. Great post, David. I’m so glad we agree that poor people are losers.

    Love,
    Ruby

  55. Great post, David. Cats are losers. And their kittens will be losers too.

    Love,
    Ruby

  56. Sarkeesian gets tons of threats of rape and violence and keeps going. Meanwhile, Varpole gets one sockpuppet pointed out and instantly folds.

  57. “Great post, David. Cats are losers. And their kittens will be losers too.

    Love,
    Ruby”

    What?? I wish you hundreds years of paper cuts and hiccups, ‘Ruby’.

  58. NWO: I don’t delete dissent. Actually, if you look at the top post on my blog right now, there’s a debate going on about whether husbands of stay-at-home moms are sexist, and if you look at the post below that there’s a comment about how much the author hates my writing style. I delete things which annoy me, which are usually either self-evidently stupid (such as your own ramblings) or rehashed to death (is feminism evil?).

    Sharc: It’s true, I don’t have a husband AND both of my partners are broke. *tear*

  59. Unimaginative

    Tell us all about this tool of analysis contained deep with the divine feminine so the world might bask in the light of feminine glory.

    Well, since you asked so nicely, analysis is something that rational people do when we read or hear or observe something. We break it down into smaller components, compare them against each other and against established knowledge and see if any new insights arise. Sometimes they don’t. Sometimes they do, and cause us to re-examine things we’re already pretty familiar with, and find out they’re not really true anymore, or they’re true in different ways than we’d previously believed.

    Sometimes, our analyses make us uncomfortable, because we’re forced to change the ways in which we interact with the world, each other, and ourselves. But we do it anyway, because living with an uncomfortable truth is better than living in ignorance and delusion.

    It’s kind of the opposite of what you do, which is spout catch-phrases and nonsensical dogma that give you a nice warm buzz in your head, and keep you locked in patterns of behaviour that, while familiar, make you an angry, unhappy person.

  60. NWO, you shouldn’t be calling anyone else a tool.

  61. Also, I hate the whole “gamers are just like that” meme. No. No they fucking AREN’T. My boyfriend is a gamer and a feminist. My best friend is a gamer and a feminist. There are Manboobz people who are gamers and feminists.

    My ex wasn’t explicitly feminist but he was pretty into equality for everyone, and his friends were definitely not feminist, and they still aren’t on board with this ‘If we can’t be sexist why even bother?’ bullshit. There are plenty of gamers who don’t identify as feminist or progressive or in any way activisty, but who are also tired of the constant over-the-top sexism, racism and homophobia on the servers. Even people who have no problems with the occasional sexist, racist or homophobic slur find themselves tired of it. Gamers are getting older and mellowing out, their kids are starting to play. These people aren’t making a lot of noise, but they and their money would probably come out of the woodwork if the industry could just clean house a bit. Kind of like the anti-smoking in bars laws that are becoming more common now. Everyone fights and fights because if you can’t smoke in a bar why even bother going, then the laws pass and all the people who were quietly staying home come out and spend their money, and it turns out there were more of them. It’ll be the same thing with games.

  62. @ozymandias42
    “NWO: I don’t delete dissent. Actually, if you look at the top post on my blog right now, there’s a debate going on about whether husbands of stay-at-home moms are sexist, and if you look at the post below that there’s a comment about how much the author hates my writing style. I delete things which annoy me, which are usually either self-evidently stupid (such as your own ramblings) or rehashed to death (is feminism evil?).”

    Of course you delete dissent. Anytime you delete a post it’s because you’ve decided it falls out of the narrow guidelines dictated by feminism.

    The husbands of stay-at-home moms are sexist is an old article we’ve all seen. The article, under the strict lens of feminism, dictates what is sexism, who commits it, what is appropriate for a man to do or say. All hemmed in by the genderless box you’ve embraced.

    Hating a writing style isn’t the same as disagreeing with content. Hating the style but agreeing with content indicates the content is sound and honest, a little brushing up of the style ani’t so bad.

    Perhaps you and I might debate on a closed thread? Perhaps here, perhaps over at the good men site. Surely an educated woman like yourself armed with degrees in gender studies and sexology would make mincemeat out of an undereducated man such as myself. Think of the guffaws to be had as you trounce me point after point. Honest debate is equality for all. Why the debate could be sent out to all the other feminist sites. I have a ten year old computer and no resources to command, you’d have all kindsa help and loads of resources to draw from. It’d be like leading an oxen to slaughter.

  63. Argenti Aertheri

    ““Feminist tools of analysis?” That is priceless. You’re a tool alrighty. The heralded, sacred analytical tools of feminism. How did the world muddle along for so long without this most precious analytical gift. Tell us all about this tool of analysis contained deep with the divine feminine so the world might bask in the light of feminine glory.”

    Are you just one of those people terrified by change? Because that box you’re typing on wasn’t around a century ago, and does some seriously impressive mathematical analysis, but “How did the world muddle along for so long without this most precious analytical gift.”

    As for the implication that feminist analysis is hidden deep in the depths of Mordor, check the damned side bar, there’s plenty you could go read on the matter if you actually wanted to learn something.

  64. @Wisteria: I’m rapidly becoming a fan of FtB (starting with Myers, but soon ranging out into some of the others)–have actually signed in with my yahoo account and trying to get up nerve to comment.

    The most recent thread (“I get email”) was……………amazing.

  65. Not excusing the hate campaign against Sarkeesian (although someone more cynical would say “hey, welcome to the internet”), but here’s one thing I don’t get. If sexism in video games and gamer culture is such a huge issue, and so many people have a problem with it, why don’t these people get together and make their own games? Surely there have to be a few with the talent and motivation to do so, and apparently a large enough willing audience that would buy and support these games. Because so far I haven’t seen any of this. All I’ve seen is a bunch of offended people trying to tell others what they should and shouldn’t enjoy. So far it seems to me like they don’t want their own games as much as they want others to stop making and playing games that they don’t like. And that’s not something I want to support, honestly.

  66. ShadetheDruid

    *Leaps in and joins the derail*

    Even though i’ve started spending more time here than there (this is the only place i’ve had the courage to comment at, and keeping up on the conversations takes work :P ), I do like FtB a lot.

    In fact, it’s the sole reason I am where I am today (atheist, feminist, supporter of minorities, etc), so it will always be important in my mind. I tend not to read Pharyngula as much as I used to, but there’s a few other blogs on there that I make sure to read regularly. And the rest if I see something interesting in the latest posts sidebar (which more often than not, there is).

    If there’s anyone around that hasn’t gone there before (or doesn’t visit much), you’re missing out on some really fantastic bloggers.

  67. @Kyrie, I was making fun of Ruby’s comment above. For the record, I love kitties!

  68. Not excusing the hate campaign against Sarkeesian (although someone more cynical would say “hey, welcome to the internet”),

    Uh huh. I think I know where this is going and oh yes, so it is. Another faux-reasonable whiner. How many games would they have to make before they were allowed to criticize sexism in games and gaming culture? Or is this one of these “shut up and be quiet” sort of things you’re arguing for, the same way you seem to think Sarkeesian should have expected this treatment just for going on the internet.

  69. If sexism in video games and gamer culture is such a huge issue, and so many people have a problem with it, why don’t these people get together and make their own games? Surely there have to be a few with the talent and motivation to do so, and apparently a large enough willing audience that would buy and support these games. Because so far I haven’t seen any of this. All I’ve seen is a bunch of offended people trying to tell others what they should and shouldn’t enjoy.

    because even if you ignore the difficulties in setting up a separate and parallel industry, de facto segregation is a moronic solution to any problem. why cant misogynists just grow the fuck up instead?

    this has been another edition of simple answers to stupid questions.

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