The Obamacare decision proves that ladies shouldn’t be put in positions of power

So, as you probably already know, the three female Supreme Court Justices — the Justicesses? — all voted to uphold Obamacare; they made up the majority of the majority in this decision.

This gal isn’t too happy about it:

Hey lady, if you’re right, and ladies are too emotional and illogical to trust to make good decisions, why should we listen to anything you (a lady) have to say about this?

Pic found on Twitter in a tweet from MattyTalks. MattyTalks is hilarious. If you’re on Twitter, follow him.

Also, there are lots of people who are now, in the wake of the Supremes’ decision, threatening to move to Canada to escape the specter of socialized medicine. They’ll be in for a surprise, eh?

EDITED TO ADD: Longtime Man Boobz troll Anthony Zarat and a few friends have marched over to Feministe to argue that the Obamacare decision will “cost the lives of countless thousands of men and boys. This is our darkest hour.” It’s really pretty hilarious. Check it out. 

I know someone here did a point-by-point rebuttal of Mr. Zarat’s delusional “analysis” of the allegedly anti-male bias of the bill; it would be worth reposting over there if anyone remembers where that was.

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Posted on June 28, 2012, in antifeminism, antifeminst women, irony alert, misogyny. Bookmark the permalink. 139 Comments.

  1. I cannot find it, but between your dual nyms and the many terms the ACA could be hiding under, idfk what to search for (date wise it has to be after 3/5 as that’s when Antz posed the avfm article).

    Found it:
    http://manboobz.com/2012/03/06/mens-rights-redditors-to-rebecca-watson-how-dare-you-say-we-hate-women-you-cunt/comment-page-2/#comment-131815

  2. I’ll admit, I do get annoyed when people take infants to non kids movies and the baby cries, and no one takes the baby out, but yeah glaring at parents and kids is just rude and achieves nothing. Especially at stores where everyone has the right to be.

  3. Anonymous, your attempts to be “serious” here are somewhat undercut by your previous comment:

    You don’t understand. Little Ms. David here is just jealous because men will rather use a Fleshlight than give Little Ms. David’s hungry poophole and mouthpussy the gift of their manly, throbbing love rockets. Awwwww. Men are such pigs. Men are so shallow they can’t understand Little Ms. David needs a Real Man™. Where have all the good men gone?

    http://manboobz.com/2012/06/28/he-blogs-just-like-a-woman/comment-page-2/#comment-168027

  4. Gay is bad, so bad!! Because um poopholes!! POOPHOLES PEOPLE!!

  5. “we are too emotional, we make irrational decisions…” We? Speak for yourself (“as a female”, snicker) but don’t presume to speak for me.

    (BTW, the 1st Amendment says anyone has a right to say what they think, no matter what gender they’re pretending to be on the internet. It just doesn’t guarantee that they’ll know what they’re talking about, or that others won’t take the piss out of them, LOL)

  6. thebionicmommy

    Love rockets? Is that what they’re calling it nowadays?

    It sounds like Anonymous needs to go back to 4chan.

  7. There is nothing wrong with assuming that a given health care bill will favor women over men- that’s been the case for at least 50 years now, ever since Title IX set precedent for female preference.

    Wow. So you just get to assume whatever to win arguments, despite any evidence and facts?

    Neat trick!

  8. @Amused

    While I fully agree that the MRA objection to the bill is pure bullshit, I wouldn’t mind seeing gender neutral language for those issues because, unless I’m off base, that would be more inclusive of trans men and people outside the binary. I don’t know if the gendered language will prove an impedement to trans people, but either way it would be nice for them to be acknowledged.

  9. only one justice has gotten ‘too emotional’ this week, and it wasn’t one of the women

  10. although i’m impressed that thomas just threw out a one paragraph ‘i write separately to remind everyone i think we should go back to the articles of confederation’ without getting all huffy and indignant like he’s prone to

  11. Argenti Aertheri

    Ruby –

    “Uh, congress passed it, and they’re mostly male. Obama signed it into law, and he’s a male. Plenty of women are against the law. Basically, this idiot is grasping at straws to backup his retarded opinion.”

    What happened to “Since Obamacare would also ration healthcare, then you guys also want people to just go die.”

    Re: “retarded” — go learn something.

    Anonymous —

    “There is nothing wrong with assuming that a given health care bill will favor women over men- that’s been the case for at least 50 years now, ever since Title IX set precedent for female preference.”

    How is requiring woman’s teams if they’re wanted “female preference”? Little story from my HS — we had a hockey team for decades, all boys, while I was there a couple of girls tried out and decided they couldn’t tolerate the hazing, so they formed a girls field hockey team — turns out there were girls a plenty who wanted to play but not face the hazing of the boys team. The boys team didn’t even get in trouble for the hazing, seems pantsing people is acceptable — they certainly weren’t required to cease existing or something. That’s just a hilariously wrong interpretation of Title IX.

    And since I’m sure the “couldn’t take being pantsed” is going to result in the MRM shouting “whimp!”, let me ask how you guys would feel about having 20~ girls surround you and and take your pants while pointing and laughing…probably not enjoy it much eh? And when you could expect that at least one per practice you’d stop going too huh?

  12. What happened to “Since Obamacare would also ration healthcare, then you guys also want people to just go die.”

    the fact that ruby doesnt fall for a particular mra shibboleth doesnt immunize her against falling for other right-wing shibboleths. you have to remember that she is not very smart.

  13. but y’know, just because she parrots dumb wingnut talking points, doesn’t mean you can call her a wingnut. that’s strawmanning.

  14. The generous interpretation would be that she has changed her opinion in the past few months.

    Unfortunately the prison rape opinion can’t be addressed that way.

  15. MorkaisChosen

    Sharculese: But it’s a bit of a U-turn, yes?

  16. Argenti Aertheri

    “Unfortunately the prison rape opinion can’t be addressed that way.”

    Yeah so Ruby, thoughts on health care for prisoners? Or is making them suffer what they get for being arrested?

    And any thoughts on the budgeting of health care for the consequences of prison rape versus for the prevention of prison rape? Because prevention almost always costs less (in everything, including health care and this is why there’s so much in the ACA about pre-natal care, costs less to have healthy babies than to treat sick babies)

  17. how is that a u-turn? she says the law was passed by a majority male institution and signed by a male president. she’s not saying anything about the quality of the law. all she did was accurately observe that the law was supported by some men and opposed by other women.

    of course, this statement is incredibly surface and trite, and ads nothing to the conversation, but isn’t that always the case with ruby’s daily harumph?

  18. thebionicmommy

    How is requiring woman’s teams if they’re wanted “female preference”?

    Title IX also makes public schools allow pregnant students to continue classes instead of forcing them to either drop out or attend alternative schools. There are more pregnant girls than pregnant trans boys and non binary people, so maybe he considers that female preference?

  19. MorkaisChosen

    sharculese: Ah, apparently I’m imagining some things she didn’t say.

  20. MorkaisChosen

    thebionicmommy: I somehow doubt many of the MRA crowd would even consider the existence of transmen in this sort of thing.

  21. that’s been the case for at least 50 years now, ever since Title IX set precedent for female preference.

    okay, i can tell you don’t know what you’re talking about because title ix isn’t fifty years old, but it doesn’t establish ‘female preference.’ quite the opposite, it says no student shall be denied access to educational opportunities on the basis of sex. now, in reality, it turns out this happens to girls a lot more than boys, but it does happen to boys, and when it does, title ix should and does protect them.

  22. There are more pregnant girls than pregnant trans boys and non binary people, so maybe he considers that female preference?

    isnt this essentially antsy’s gripe about the ppaca

  23. Argenti Aertheri

    “isnt this essentially antsy’s gripe about the ppaca”

    Combined with a legitimate complaint about STD testing and prevention in (cis) men, yes. But it isn’t like it’s feminism’s fault that STD testing is easier in vaginas than penises…and I’ve never</em seen a feminist saying that the HPV vaccine shouldn't be tested and approved for boys too. (Oh and lookie here the CDC does recommend it for boys, thus the ACA “covers” it!)

    So yeah, that leaves pregnancy and testing for a couple of STDs, but that’s not some anti-male thing, it’s an anti-not-proven-effective thing. He should be lobbying for better STD screening in (cis) men (and other penis-havers), not complaining about feminism. (Does he really think hetero women wouldn’t want their partners to be testable? I mean damned that’s dumb)

  24. Argenti Aertheri

    Poopy, I broke my close tag >.<

  25. @Happy

    Yes it does, thanks. Sorry, I didn’t mean to go off on you like that, I guess I’m just frustrated with all the back and forth online and when MRAs actually make a good point about something but then vomit all over it with misogyny.

    I’m also not a fan of marriage but respect people who do get married.

    Oh, and one bit of good news I forgot to post, 1in6 and RAINN have teamed up to provide a 24/7 hotline for male sexual abuse survivors. http://rainn.org/1in6-rainn-join-forces

  26. The STD issue is semi-legitimate. Men are much more likely to be aware of an infection. It’s also true that men don’t have the same rates of regular appointments, which makes managing the scheduling of the testing a bit trickier.

    But the ACA is a right-wing con job that they got passed under a democrat, and so they hate; it’s having their cake and eating it.

    Nice work, if you can get it.

  27. Juvenile MRAnonymous wrote:

    “You don’t understand. Little Ms. David here is just jealous because men will rather use a Fleshlight than give Little Ms. David’s hungry poophole and mouthpussy the gift of their manly, throbbing love rockets. Awwwww. Men are such pigs. Men are so shallow they can’t understand Little Ms. David needs a Real Man™. Where have all the good men gone?”

    I was going to regender this comment, changing David to MRAs, but it started to sound too dirty and I got embarrassed. :)

  28. @Argenti Aertheri
    “How is requiring woman’s teams if they’re wanted “female preference”?”

    For real equality in sports where merit is the only deciding factor there should only be one team for each sport. Everyone would have equal opportunity to compete to make the cut. Title IX has cut massive amounts of sports for men. This is an undeniable fact. Title IX punishes men by denying them the opportunity to even compete in sports that were once available to them. This is also a fact.

  29. CassandraSays

    @thebionicmommy

    ” I don’t know if it’s because he is obtuse, stubborn, or both.”

    I think it’s option d. – lying. It’s not not he hasn’t admitted that he lies when he feels like it will further his cause.

  30. There is nothing wrong with assuming that a given health care bill will favor women over men- that’s been the case for at least 50 years now, ever since Title IX set precedent for female preference.

    Treating boys and girls equally is giving “preference” to girls. I wish this were the first time I’d encountered this particular worldview.

    America got a friggin’ World Cup victory out of Title IX. It is sweet as hell.

  31. @Argenti Aertheri

    Also, in the beggining of the year I gave you links to the pittsburg area grade school where the hate law known as Title IX cut boys basketball. The pittsburg area did everything they could, spending tens of thousands to “encourage” grade school girls to play basketball, which is more then the boys were given. Everything under the sun was tried to get enough girls to play to form a team. They couldn’t field enough girls so the boys team had to be cut in compliance with Title IX. If girls don’t wanna play, boys can’t play. Clearly that is a punishment. How do you justify that?

  32. “For real equality in sports where merit is the only deciding factor there should only be one team for each sport. Everyone would have equal opportunity to compete to make the cut.”

    Yeah, that sounds TOTALLY fair since men have more body strength than women, tend to be larger, and on average run faster. The end result of this will be NO women in ANY sports, but I guess that would make you happy.

  33. Argenti Aertheri

    “For real equality in sports where merit is the only deciding factor there should only be one team for each sport. Everyone would have equal opportunity to compete to make the cut.”

    That’s why the Olympics have been gender separated basically since women where allowed to enter right? They’d probably have been separated since the beginning, but the first woman to enter was entering in shooting, and that one isn’t really strength related. The only events not gender separated at present are the equestrian events.

    “Title IX has cut massive amounts of sports for men. This is an undeniable fact. Title IX punishes men by denying them the opportunity to even compete in sports that were once available to them. This is also a fact.”

    Then prove either claim. Or are these more BRAINFAX!!?

    “How do you justify that?”

    How do you justify dropping the fucking h in Pittsburgh?! ARGH! (That is less a point and more a pet peeve) Since your links are not in this thread, or anywhere I remember and can find them, I’ll have to google this. Which results in a whole lot of nonsense from this year suggesting that a recent change in the rules may, in the future, possibly, result in the boys not being able to play if the girls team has no one to play against.

    And it looks like there where a couple of boys games cut because the boys team had basically stolen the gym from the girls team — scheduling the gym such that only the boys get to use it is a Title IX violation, yep. And girls have come out in droves to try out for the new girls teams and thus no one thinks there’s any risk the “all or nothing” approach will actually happen.

    Or you have pre-cog skills? Either that, or you’re lying, or you’re talking about one of the many Pittsburg’s in the country without referencing which (and I really cannot guess in that case).

    Oh, you’re just flat out lying — “Everything under the sun was tried to get enough girls to play to form a team.” —

    “LANE: Absolutely. We went from three girls’ teams to 14. We went from a total of 16 teams to 28. We had one school where 40 girls came out for basketball.” NPR

  34. Also, if there’s a woman on an otherwise all-male team, no possible chance at all that she might get harassed.

    And if she did, she was asking for it. By playing sports.

  35. “For real equality in sports where merit is the only deciding factor there should only be one team for each sport. Everyone would have equal opportunity to compete to make the cut.”

    Okay, how about getting rid of weight classifications in boxing, too?

  36. captainbathrobe

    Actually, there is a city in California called “Pittsburg” with no “h.” I doubt Slavey was talking about that, though.

  37. Argenti Aertheri

    captainbathrobe — there are a lot of Pittsburg’s so I couldn’t try to guess if I wanted to (and I’ve said I went to the University of Pittsburgh, so it kind of makes sense if he’s going to not name a state he’d pick somewhere I’d know…but that might be giving him too much credit). Kind of moot anyways, he just makes shit up, claims it must be anti-male, and demands justification.

    On that note, there’s a dimensional portal somewhere in this apt with a serious taste for socks and other small misplaced items, clearly stealing socks is a punishment, how do you justify that?! (Should I ever actually discover a dimensional portal, I do know enough D&D to realize sticking my hand in would be a Very Bad Idea XD )

  38. Also don’t put it in a bag of holding.

  39. Men’s and women’s teams in Pittsburgh were cut, due to lack of funding not because of Title IX. What probably burns Owly is that Title IX was the reason some of the women’s teams were restored. I would argue for increased funding to make sure that opportunities were there for women and men. Isn’t Owly opposed to public funding of anything though?

  40. Also don’t put it in a bag of holding.

    Actually that’s a portable hole. A portal to another dimension is pretty much stationary and you can’t move it. A portable hole is a gimmick to let players haul additional gold out of the dungeon, beyond what they can hump themselves.

    It’s a damn wonder I ever get laid, isn’t it?

  41. A portable hole is in fact an opening to a small demiplane, so it’s a type of planar portal.

  42. Just make sure it’s a portable hole and not a pawtable hole.. otherwise you’ll have an invasion of kittens on your hands.

    (Sorry, I know, terrible pun >.<).

  43. oh boo fucking hoo….mens teams get paid more and get more attention..Now in days however womens sports are becoming more legitamate especially in Soccer, Tennis and Softball…but then mens teams are much bigger….

    What this all adds up to is waaaahhhhhh I don’t want to see women playing sports.

  44. I mentioned to my fifteen year old son the fact that someone had complained that ACA covers prescription birth control for women, and not men. I then asked if he could imagnie WHY that was the case. He glared at me, as if in impatience at my stupidity*, and said, ‘Because men can’t give birth. Duh’, and went back to his pizza.

    I did explain to him that birth control for men, at the moment, is available without a prescription. He may benefit from that knowledge someday.

    *I am his father, and he IS fifteen, so I get that glare on occasion.

  45. Argenti Aertheri

    katz — “Also don’t put it in a bag of holding.” — that seems like an “omgs you blew a hole in the universe” level bad idea

    cloudiah — I’d thought NWO hated public funding (or rather, being taxed to pay for that)…but maybe that’s only when it goes to things he doesn’t like? That would be rather typical of the “no taxes!” crowd — they still want public sewers and tap water, just not, you know, those thing that other people use. (And Pittsburgh’s had a wee bit of a budgeting issue in general, for everyone’s sake let’s not get me started on what a dolt the mayor is…thank you for reminding me bus fare increases on Monday though.)

    Discorda “What this all adds up to is waaaahhhhhh I don’t want to see women playing sports.” — yeah, basically, or at least, not using one goddamned dime of his money. I do wonder what he’d say about combined male and female records in a sport where they are generally equal, like archery. He’d be cool with giving the 18 arrow match and 54 arrow finals records to both the men and women since they tied for it, right? And the 36 arrow elimination record goes to the woman with since she’s got 2 more points than the man, right?

  46. katz — “Also don’t put it in a bag of holding.” — that seems like an “omgs you blew a hole in the universe” level bad idea

    Are you boys cooking in there? Are you meddling with the fabric of space-time?

  47. @Robert, 5:01pm “I mentioned to my fifteen year old son the fact that someone had complained that ACA covers prescription birth control for women, and not men. I then asked if he could imagnie WHY that was the case. He glared at me, as if in impatience at my stupidity, and said, ‘Because men can’t give birth. Duh’, and went back to his pizza.”

    Good manly American thinking by your son. Just gimme the facts. Not all the facts, just the facts.

    Then you ruin things, utterly and tragically.

    “I did explain to him that birth control for men, at the moment, is available without a prescription. He may benefit from that knowledge someday.”

    Expose him to enough trifling subtleties like that and he won’t need birth control. His alpha dominant decisiveness will have been sapped by sensitivity – the mother of waffling and equivocation, and a huge red flag for the female sex drive.

    Hey, wait a minute, then. Where’d his dad manage to reproduce with such pussified thought processes? Is he REALLY your son? Or did you steal him from good Americans?

  48. Man Raoul, you really need to rethink your commitment to trolling. You kinda suck at it. WAY too obvious.

  49. Try harder Raoul. This is weak sauce.

  50. Argenti Aertheri

    Seriously Raoul, you have some problem with condoms just because they exist or something?

    “Are you boys cooking in there? Are you meddling with the fabric of space-time?”

    …yes? — “Two minutes to Belgium.” — the 5th Doctor to the 10th Doctor

  51. @Argenti Aertheri
    Here’s the article
    http://www.post-gazette.com/stories/sports/high-school-basketball/city-schools-elementary-hoops-policy-changed-225912/

    Of course it prattles on with… “It’s not to deny boys, that’s not the goal of Title IX,” Ms. Lane said.

    If the result is boys being denied the opportunity to play a sport because girls don’t want to play than that is the intended goal of Title IX. If it was an isolated incident no one would care, but thousands of cases means Title IX is punishing perfectly as planned.

    Oh, and if grammar errors really were your pet peeve you’d correct everyone else’s as well. Perhaps my refusal to bend a knee might have something to do with it.

  52. captainbathrobe

    Of course the D&D item you really wanted to avoid was the Sphere of Annihilation. Touching it would cause your character to be instantly destroyed–beyond hope of resurrection or even a wish.

    Um…yeah. I didn’t date a lot in high school, in cars you couldn’t tell.

  53. Let’s not forget the Bag of Devouring. Looks like a Bag of Holding, until you try putting your hand in. Than it eats you.

  54. *Then

  55. wait

    wait

    what?

    knowing about condoms makes you impotent?

    what?!

  56. I actually thought Raoul was a parody. What was written doesn’t really make sense, otherwise.

  57. You know, when I proclaimed myself a troll, I could have been…a [i]meta[/i]troll. Trolling y’all that I was a troll.

    gelar is right, what I wrote to Robert was parody. I hoped it was satire, but that’s really not for me to say.

  58. @nwoslave
    Argenti does correct other people’s grammar, I’ve seen it several times. You just think it only happens to you because you have a persecution complex.

  59. Argenti Aertheri

    NWO –

    Totally found that article 5 min before I found the NPR one you clearly didn’t read.

    “If the result is boys being denied the opportunity to play a sport because girls don’t want to play than that is the intended goal of Title IX. If it was an isolated incident no one would care, but thousands of cases means Title IX is punishing perfectly as planned.”

    Because yeah, that’s not happening, nor was there any issue getting plenty of girls teams (as you claimed). Basically, you are doing exactly what the one line “against” this feared — “It’s really a Catch-22,” she said. “They’ll turn around and say then the boys can’t play and the girls will be blamed.” — That didn’t happen, and yet, here we are, with you saying the girls are to be blamed for something that didn’t happen.

    “Oh, and if grammar errors really were your pet peeve you’d correct everyone else’s as well. Perhaps my refusal to bend a knee might have something to do with it.”

    Dude, did you read any of the glossary trolling? Did you see what I said about his ability to make a coherent argument? I only mock your grammar when it makes no bloody sense. Everyone else (except a few trolls) manages to make sense despite typos.

    Raoul — you want <i> or <em> (the latter works on screenreaders, but they print the same). And logical paradoxes are fun! Trolling us by pretend to be a troll, that’s still trolling. Your parody fell victim to Poe’s Law. NWO is prone to claiming men have no reproductive rights because reproductive rights means abortion, which is murder, and condoms aren’t murder. Or something like that.

    Everyone — is that nonsense about no reproductive rights in the Book of Learnin’ yet? (Was that the mother’s day thread or the father’s day thread?)

  60. Argenti Aertheri

    Myoo — I corrected him once, and then either dropped or added a word, and now he’s going to lord it over me forever I suspect.

  61. It’s kind of a moot point, Raoul. You’re tedious and unfunny either way.

  62. Raoul: You know, when I proclaimed myself a troll, I could have been…a [i]meta[/i]troll. Trolling y’all that I was a troll.

    On the internet no one knows you’re a dog. Which means that one is what one presents one self to be.

    So far, you live beneath a bridge.

  63. If the result is boys being denied the opportunity to play a sport because girls don’t want to play than that is the intended goal of Title IX.

    Ah, that explains why so many US high schools and colleges are obsessed with football from August to December. What a surprise to find out that it’s “Girls Only” on the gridiron, since Title IX says boys can’t play a sport unless an equal number of girls want to play the same sport.

    Oh, wait…

  64. @Raoul

    What’s with the misandric man shaming?

  65. Just make sure it’s a portable hole and not a pawtable hole.. otherwise you’ll have an invasion of kittens on your hands.

    (Sorry, I know, terrible pun >.<).

    Shade, you made me think of this!

  66. Tha Affordable Care Act should have mandated free boxes of kittens to treat illness — for women only, of course! (That was a cute clip.)

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