Return of the Sexy Robot Ladies, Part Two: Electric Boogaloo
Our glorious future
The sexy robot ladies are back! Not so much in real life, where they are still more scary than sexy, but in the fervid imagination of dudes who hate real ladies. Like Eric here, on The Spearhead:
When I first came to the MRM, there was a story in the news about a Japanese robotics engineer who had made a female android. It really wasn’t much more than a fairly realistic-looking doll; although there was quite a bit of discussion at the time for the potential to improve on the design. The main thing was that it’s invention caused a fury from the feminists. Even at that early stage in my MRA days, I could see the reason: for the first time women were looking the very real possibility that they could become expendable.
Well, “expendable” only if you view women as little more than support systems for their vaginas.
Personally, I’m more into foreign girls than virtual sex. But the same principle applies: as long as there are alternatives to feminists, the feminists are expendable. They don’t have the power to convert every woman on the planet; and even if they could they can’t stop men from building robots.
Please, build those robots, and lock yourselves away with them forever, and leave the rest of us alone.
Elsewhere in the same thread on The Spearhead we get some examples of why it’s a problem when Men Who Really Should Be Going Their Own way … don’t. A fellow calling himself Rmaxd apparently suggested that men who feel themselves to have been mistreated by the courts should: “Lynch a judge as you would any traitor or dictator.”
His comment was deleted, and heavily criticized — apparently for not being circumspect enough in his threatening language. After all, our dear friend JeremiahMRA got mostly upvotes on The Spearhead for a similarly threatening remark just the other day. And elsewhere in the very same thread as Rmaxd’s now-deleted comment we find a fellow called freebird suggesting that men who have allegedly suffered because of women should
share this pain with those inflicting it.
cue up “blood on the plow”
Meanwhile, again in the same thread, a commenter called walking in hell brings up the example of Thomas Ball, the MRA who self-immolated on the steps of a Keene, New Hampshire courthouse a year ago in hopes that his dramatic death would inspire other men to (quite literally) burn down police stations and courthouses using Molotov cocktails. (You can read Ball’s manifesto, complete with its call for MRA terrorism though without the specific instructions on how to make effective Molotov cocktails, on A Voice for Men, in its “activism” section; search the page for “burn” to go directly to his advocacy of terrorism.) Walking in hell also thinks family court judges should be “punished” for their alleged “crimes,” by which he means denying some fathers visitation.
[R]esponsibility for such heinous crimes against children can behold an individual to a special kind of punishment.
We see the nervous squirming by judges in the Australia case marked by the judge issuing an apology. We also see nervous squirming in the UK with the evildoers trying to issue fake political gestures to angry people.
The evildoers must smell something besides fire and brimstone. The sooner they get to the fire and brimstone, the better off children and fathers will be.
Apparently this vaguely threatening language was vague enough to pass muster on The Spearhead; this comment got more than a dozen upvotes.
The sooner you fuckers build those sexbots you like to talk about so much, the better for all of us.
Posted on June 20, 2012, in antifeminism, men who should not ever be with women ever, MGTOW, misogyny, MRA, sexy robot ladies, terrorism, threats, vaginas, your time will come. Bookmark the permalink. 503 Comments.
Cat: In Mala Fide hates masturbation, yeah. The main blogger behind it wrote several books on the subject.
@Sharculese
Trolling would be my guess, it’s not the offensive things Ruby writes that make me think so, but the fact that the more offended responses she gets in a topic the less she actually replies.
About the robots… Nobody should feel threatened by the idea of “replacing” either gender, it’s like genetically engineering flying sharks: Anyone silly enough to want to do it is probably unable to meaningfully contribute to the project.
@DSC
While generally true, it’s clearly a feature, rather than a bug, in the MRM’s desire for them.
Okay, I know mocking the sexbot fetishists is fun (and really, it is), but I wanna focus, just for a second, on this bit:
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:”share this pain with those inflicting it.
cue up “blood on the plow””
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Now, I had to go digging up the lyrics to be sure–we’re talking about a song that peaked in the mid-80s, for pity’s sake–but “Rain on the Scarecrow” was actually a decent song… about banks foreclosing on small family farms… and those farms being bought up by corporate farmers at auction… and the families affected feeling helpless and, in many cases, a bit suicidal, simply because they’d lost everything that had been passed down to them (because it’s impossible to run a farm without being on perpetual loans, waiting for just one bad year to finish you off, these days). There’s two actual actions taken by the farmers in the song–the singer implies he’s cut ties with a former friend who took a job auctioning off the farm (but still promises to pray for his soul), and the farm families collectively stage a protest by putting crosses on the courthouse lawn, one for each farm lost to foreclosure.
So, just what the holy fuck does that have to do with the MRA cause? And if you cue it up during your effort to ‘share the pain’, are you imagining the women to be the banks? The judge who, in the song, is simply targeted with a quiet and dignified protest?
I’m not the best person to engage in written debate, in general I’m a woman of few words and have no idea about on-line politics.
Also I’m not offended by others opinions. Daily I deal with people who range politically from each extreme from far left to right and for the most part I find things I like about them as individuals.
I acknowledge that this is a blog designed to mock mra’s, hence mocking will happen but sometimes it reads as bullying back. It was nice to see today that behavior called out.
Uhh I think you misunderstand what we are mocking…. I hate to see how you treat other fetishes…
Let me indulge in some NWO type “logic” here.
The invention of viable sex robots (ones that are easy to get and use and by the way Netflix has Cherry 2000, so the average dude could have one) has happened. But since women are evil or something they are not supposed to have the robots which means that all use of such robots by women will be prohibited by the men in charge of the government but since women are secretly in charge of the world, getting those robots will be actually banned first but then it will be modified to just women by the brave underground men who somehow manage to run everything despite the interference…ow, my mind now hurts. I am going to go finish a book.
Also, hee hee:
http://xkcd.com/600/
If I had a sexbot I would probably break it in two weeks. I’m not good with techy stuff.
Anything purpose built to spend it’s life with MRA’s just HAS to be the origin of skynet!
Given that I don’t think MRAs really want anything like what I would consider to be an AI (e.g. capable of evolving a knowledge of self, understanding that one has an existence over time), why don’t they just use blow-up dolls? I’m not seeing the advantage of these robots. Also, won’t blow-up dolls be a significantly cheaper option?
See, that’s just how I roll, trying to help MRAs save their money. :)
Come to the feminist side, we have cookies…
It depends what you mean by AI, because there’s really more than one meaning. The sci fi sense, as in intelligence comparable to humans etc (just artificially created, rather than naturally evolved) with self awareness and sapience. Or the general sense, as in any response given by a computer due to programming (but not beyond what is programmed).
We tend to call a lot of things AI when they aren’t. You get this a lot in video games, where NPCs are always referred to as having an “AI” even when it’s not strictly true.. especially when the AI is usually as smart as a bag of rocks.
Anyway, I think the advantage they’d (or anyone would) see to a robot over a sex doll is that it would give out all of the responses of a woman without all the self awareness or mind of its own (or any of the needs of a real person). It’s like a step up from an inanimate sex doll and as close to a real person without all the things they hate (VR would be another step further since then you could adapt it to whatever you want at the time).
“Thomas Ball, the MRA who self-immolated on the steps of a Keene, New Hampshire courthouse a year ago in hopes that his dramatic death would inspire other men to (quite literally) burn down police stations and courthouses using Molotov cocktails”
Wow, what a disgusting pig you are.
That was someone who felt his life was effectively over and decided to end it himself (instead of letting the state do it) to raise awareness of the anti male biases of family cours and how they were destroying lives.
Where you got this ridiculous notion about encuraging bomings… you are really full of shit, arent you? To slander a desperate mans last action, his suicide in such a way. I guess there is no low you and your kind wouldnt go.
Anyway, I think the advantage they’d (or anyone would) see to a robot over a sex doll is that it would give out all of the responses of a woman without all the self awareness or mind of its own (or any of the needs of a real person)
You are super generous here. I think the point is that they are hoping for sex dolls that will also cook their dinner and wash their underwear.
Also, to the person who is Hatching A Scheme… I think you’re thinking what I’m thinking. It would be a fantastic and probably very successful internet scam, given the general level of gullibility and disconnection from reality among MRAs. Actually, I’m amazed someone hasn’t already done it. They are a perfect target group for con artists, especially given that the illusion that they’re very smart and “logical” is a big part of their disconnection from reality in most cases I’ve seen.
Curse my sense of ethics.
A blow doll can’t hug you, a blow doll can’t listen to you, a blow doll can’t pretend that you’re great at sex and that she’s enjoying it, and with a blow doll you have to do all the ‘work’. Not that there couldn’t be other reasons to want robots, but these are obvious one why MRAs would want them.
Is it just me or does that sex doll in the picture look a lot like Catherine Tate?
It does look alarmingly like Sally Phillips, a British comedy actor of far greater talent but far less undeserved credibility and fame…
“I think the point is that they are hoping for sex dolls that will also cook their dinner and wash their underwear.”
For some reason, that sentence gave me mental images of a washing machine with robotic arms sticking out of the side.. Somehow i’m not sure that’s what people would want as a sexbot. O.O
In the 80s in Australia, fathers/mens rights activists planted bombs. They bombed a family court AND blew up the house (or the car, I can’t recall) of a family court judge, killing the judge’s wife and child. This was their “measured” reaction to no-fault divorce and primary custody to women. I wrote to Price of Spearhead fame last week to tell him that some of his commentators comments were indicative of this kind of thinking and that he and his website would be implicated as responsible for inciting violence should any of his posters do something along these lines. My comment was moderated and never displayed. Price is culpable under Australian law if any links are found between his commentators posts, his website and their actions. It’s only a matter of time until his site is no more. The boyosphere has jumped the shark.
Everybody has kinks. Don’t judge. DON’T JUDGE MEEEEEEEEE!!!!
Muzolf: I “got this ridiculous notion” by READING WHAT BALL WROTE. Ball says quite explicitly in his manifesto that he killed himself in order to encourage other men to start firebombing courts and police stations. Follow the link to his manifesto. Do a search for the word “burn” on that page. It’s all there in gory detail.
rofl that picture of the creepy with plastic catherine tate! His pose appears to indicate he has formed an emotional attachment to a bit of plastic? Hmmm, if a woman was this insane, what would be the equivalent? A woman sitting on a couch with her arm lovingly around a dildo? Perhaps a picture of herself and her dildo having a lovely picnic together somewhere? These men are freaks. Bigger freaks than the dolls they are going to molest by far.
Actually Fah Lo Suee, no one here cares if he has an attachment to the doll or not. I am fine with people doing as they wish if they hurt no one else. Robots without sentient AI or simple moving sex dolls are perfectly fine, if they prevent these particular people from hurting real human beings.
There are also plenty of people who would have these kind of robots in addition to a human partner.
The only thing being mocked here is the idea that having a sex robot will eliminate the need for half the human race.
Being expected to click a link to another site is misandry!!
@Fah Lo Suee, yup, nothing worse than the “freaks” with different pastimes and sexual interests than your own. They really are “insane”, which is terrible.
Well actually Bostonian, it could be argued that for the unhinged, plastic fuck dolls could be a gateway sex aid to necrophilia, and I don’t know about you,but I prefer the thought of being unmolested, even if I’m in the morgue or six feet under. I wouldn’t underestimate the the level of perversion that perverts are capable of, and yes, perverts are what they are, whether their hurting no one but themselves.
What’s that viscaria? Fucking a plastic doll and pretending she’s your wife or gf is perfectly normal? Maybe in your world, thankfully not in mine.
Did someone leave a Religious Fundementalist’s Guide to Fallacious Argumentation laying around? Seriously, that’s the same format as the old “gay sex = gateway to paedophilia/bestiality” argument.
Fah Lo Suee:
I’m a pervert. I know a number of other perverts. We have joyous perverted fun together. And, like most perverts, we’re quite specific in our tastes. Your corpse is safe from me. But it’s nice to know that in your mind, there’s no limit to what I might do, simply because vanilla PIV isn’t my thing.
How kinky do I have to be before I’m a pervert who might be capable of anything? If I fuck while trans, is that perverted? If I have a vulva and I go on top, is that perverted? Am I a pervert if I have ropes and know how to use them, but merely titillating if I use (much more risky) silk scarves instead?
Sorry!
It was his sled! It was his sleeed!!
OH THANK GOD IT’S NOT JUST ME.
If someone has necrophilia, I do not think that the presence of robots or dolls are going to make them more or less likely to engage in sex with dead bodies.
Look, I have an active doll phobia, they freak me out beyond all reason. I still do not think someone fucking a doll or non sentient robot is a problem for me in my life, as long as they do not actually fuck it in my house, in front of me.
@STD
I’m not into organised religion, unlike yourself STD, so you might want to stop projecting. Fuck dolls are remarkably like corpses, it has to do with their unfocused gaze and is also why manufacturers have pumped (pun not intended) billions into getting heat sensors into the latex skins to try and mask the corpse effect, but of course, they haven’t fixed the eye issues yet. Only someone with a religious issue would be so biased/bigotted as to fail to consider the possibility that some mentally deranged fuck doll fuckers will eventually tire of the plastic hole, but not the corpse like effect and will go searching for the real dead deal.
Huh? No, I’m not going to scam MRAs. For shame! If I wanted to fleece the gullible, I may as well go and be a televangelist, there’s lots more money there.
My scheme has nought to do with MRAs. I am going to offer genuine content and put out a PayPal tip jar, and I’d heard something about forming a corporation to have a PayPal account. The PayPal website isn’t very helpful, and I wanted to talk to people what done it about how it works.
Viola, your sex sounds tame compared to mine. I have a dildo amongst other tools but I’m not exactly going to ask it to marry me and then lounge around the house with it spending non-sexual quality time with it. Get over yourself.
Oh look, another “imma here just to dis random people” troll.
Who the hell is Cathrine Tate?
Um…. you first.
I’m in agreement that mras and fras are asshats, yet all of you here seem to have no issue dissing me for my opinions and you all certainly started it. So who exactly is/are the trolls here? Seriously don’t make me start thinking mras/fras have you all pegged correctly as overly PC sensitive dumbfucks.
*Snorts* I give you a 2/5 for effort. Would’ve been a 1 because of all the fail, but you made me snort with laughter at the “no, you” response to something I didn’t even say.
Guys, arguing stuff is super fun! I want a go!
It could be argued that, if we don’t leave bowls of peanut butter out every night for the squirrels, they will revolt and destroy us all!
It could be argued that, unless we grow larger sweet potato crops, their rarity will send prices through the roof. Pubs that serve sweet potato fries will start making money hand over fist, driving all competing eateries out of business, and will eventually form their own world pub government!
It could be argued that, if Fah Lo Suee stops saying ridiculous sex-negative bullshit, monkeys will fly out of zir ass!
“You don’t all automatically agree with MEEEE!”
Therefore we are dumbfucks?
Or maybe we just don’t see a problem with what consenting adults spend their money on, provided its not hurting anyone?
I give you a zero for relevance. Have fun with that.
Muzolf: In case you’re too lazy to read what Ball wrote (here http://www.avoiceformen.com/activism-page/tom-ball-murdered-by-the-family-courts/ is the link):
In what way is this not an incitement to arson?
Look! He gave instructions on how to do it and everything! This man was not interested in a peaceful protest. Leaving aside any question of the validity of his political opinions, this is a blatant call for violence, and a movement that chooses him as its martyr tars itself with the same brush.
Guys. Fah Lo Suee.
Fallacy.
Calling troll on this one.
If having sex with a doll leads to necroplilia, then surely having sex with a shaved woman lead to pedophilia, and having sex with someone wearing that (NSFW) leads to bestiality! It’s all true!!!!1!
Do you have proof for your stupidity, can you pretend for a second that our not pulling it out of your ass, Fah Lo Suee? If it can be argued, then do it, show us the arguments.
I don’t care if he fucks a doll, as long as he puts it in the cupboard or out of sight. When he dresses each day, talks to it as if it’s real and thinks he’s in a relationship, then I do have a problem with it, because guess what, in most sane people’s understanding of reality, that ain’t normal. When he starts taking his fuck doll to the supermarket on the bus with him, yes, I am going to have a problem with that. Especially when children in public see that. Perhaps you don’t mind if your children go to his door to sell girl scout cookies to him and they see wifey fuck doll in lingerie on the lounge behind him, in their line of sight, but then perhaps you don’t mind what your children are exposed to, as long as you don’t offend anyone by not being completely tolerant of bullshit.
And having a Teddy bear leads to marry dead bears. Trufax.
Well Fallacy, considering the amount of thought and detail you’ve put into that little fantasy scenario, are you sure that you’re really repelled by the idea?
Won’t someone think of the chiiiiiiiiiiiiiiildren! That’s the best strawman I’ve seen in quite a time. Good effort.
How is seeing a fuck doll in lingerie more traumatizing that seeing lingerie on a dummy in a store, anyway?
LOL you people really ought to read about fuck dolls, and the “relationship” men have with them in Japan and many other countries before you start calling “BS” on my opinions. Don’t comment on stuff you all clearly have no clue about, makes you look like even bigger morons.
You know what? If it makes him happy and more pleasant to be around, I don’t think I have to worry for my childrens sake. As long as he’s not fucking the doll in front of them, its his business.
Because it’s not a store Kylie, derp. It’s a person’s home, on the lounge. And children aren’t as stupid as you seem to think they are.
Blow doll already exist, and have been for quite a time, so where are the report of increase in necrophilia and the traumatized girl scouts?
Thanks for assuming we all have NO IDEA.
Actually, I’m quite aware of the relationships some people develop with fuck dolls.
Kyrie, with a ‘R’. And how is that different? You can see them from the street. They also sell lingerie in supermarket. Where have I said children are stupid?
Well now, I wouldn’t know, not belonging to the lofty ranks of the sane; but I had no idea “normal” was such a crucial aspect of sex and sexuality.
Oh okay, now I see! You’re worried about the children! How noble of you. So, if someone forms an emotional attachment to their sex toys and no children see, that’s totally cool with you?
You sure seem to have spent a lot of time learning about all that, for someone who don’t care. You’re just like Christian fundies who obsess over anal gay sex all day long.
Maybe Fallacy has a problem with boys liking dolls at all?
THOSE NUTTY JAPANESE AMIRITE ALWAYS BEING ALL FOREIGN AND NOT WHITE AND DOING CRAAAAAZY THINGS NORMAL AMERICAN WHITE PEOPLE WOULD NEVER DO
I never get tired of these “I’m on you’re side, I hate MRAs, why don’t you agree with everything I say???” trolls. (hi Ruby!)
Still waiting for proof fucking dolls leads to wanting to fuck dead people. (Have you seen a dead person? That’s really no pretty)
“LOL you people really ought to read about fuck dolls, and the “relationship” men have with them in Japan and many other countries”
Do you mean that they treat their dolls like living persons? Surely you can’t mean that, since it would make no sense with your necrophilia theory, right? (internal consistency of your crap: fail)
Point of contention: I’m not entirely sure Ruby’s a troll yet, they may just have some opinions with which I Do Not Agree.
Fallacy, on the other hand…
Have you read all the essentialist crap she wrote? All the “women are like this” “women wants that”? Have you seen the way she ‘debates’? Have you read any thing ever that she wrote which contributed to the conversation? Her comments fall in three categories: uninteresting, offensive and hilariously stupid.
And I just realize why you’re calling him Fallacy. *hides*
I just realised this is the first time ever i’ve argued with a troll on the internet. :’)
(That’s a “proud tear” emote, just incase my emote creation skills suck and it looks more like someone with a big nose :P).
I don’t like a lot of what Ruby has to say, but I will concede that she may be a feminist, just one that hasn’t done enough reading and unpacking of her own thinking yet.
Then she’s a sexist feminist? (that will go great along the racist and transphobic and whorephobic and classist feminists) Because what she say is very sexist. I don’t give her a pass because she’s calling herself a feminist. Maybe in the future she won’t be sexist? That would be great, but that doesn’t mean anything about what she is today.
Kyrie I’m not saying she shouldn’t be called out for her sexism or the fallacy of her thinking shouldn’t be pointed out to her. She doesn’t get a pass on that. What I am saying is that she doesn’t seem to have given feminism much thought beyond ” I think I’m the equal of men”. That’s a good start, but she needs to develop it more.
Not arguing that she’s sexist; I’m just being (perhaps unnecessarily) rigourous with my use of the word troll. If those are sincere beliefs and not an attempt to piss us off, then yep- not a troll.
(That does not in any way mean I think she’s right about anything.)
Is it everything you expected?
She hasn’t gone further “I’m a woman therefore I know how all women think” Again, it’d be nice is she did go further, but have you seen any indication that she’s on the right path? She refuse to speak with people, though she sometimes speak at them, never listen to them, has a terrible understanding of science (“Here are a FOX News and a discovery channel videos with the name of someone working in a university, therefore I’m right!)
As long as her theories imply that I’m lying about my life (and not just me), I think she qualify as a troll. Of course, she’s far from being as bad as MRAs or PUAs, but that’s a very low bar.
But I can believe that NWO and DKM and B____ and Mister Al are sincere. Yet we call them trolls.