Return of the Sexy Robot Ladies, Part Two: Electric Boogaloo
Our glorious future
The sexy robot ladies are back! Not so much in real life, where they are still more scary than sexy, but in the fervid imagination of dudes who hate real ladies. Like Eric here, on The Spearhead:
When I first came to the MRM, there was a story in the news about a Japanese robotics engineer who had made a female android. It really wasn’t much more than a fairly realistic-looking doll; although there was quite a bit of discussion at the time for the potential to improve on the design. The main thing was that it’s invention caused a fury from the feminists. Even at that early stage in my MRA days, I could see the reason: for the first time women were looking the very real possibility that they could become expendable.
Well, “expendable” only if you view women as little more than support systems for their vaginas.
Personally, I’m more into foreign girls than virtual sex. But the same principle applies: as long as there are alternatives to feminists, the feminists are expendable. They don’t have the power to convert every woman on the planet; and even if they could they can’t stop men from building robots.
Please, build those robots, and lock yourselves away with them forever, and leave the rest of us alone.
Elsewhere in the same thread on The Spearhead we get some examples of why it’s a problem when Men Who Really Should Be Going Their Own way … don’t. A fellow calling himself Rmaxd apparently suggested that men who feel themselves to have been mistreated by the courts should: “Lynch a judge as you would any traitor or dictator.”
His comment was deleted, and heavily criticized — apparently for not being circumspect enough in his threatening language. After all, our dear friend JeremiahMRA got mostly upvotes on The Spearhead for a similarly threatening remark just the other day. And elsewhere in the very same thread as Rmaxd’s now-deleted comment we find a fellow called freebird suggesting that men who have allegedly suffered because of women should
share this pain with those inflicting it.
cue up “blood on the plow”
Meanwhile, again in the same thread, a commenter called walking in hell brings up the example of Thomas Ball, the MRA who self-immolated on the steps of a Keene, New Hampshire courthouse a year ago in hopes that his dramatic death would inspire other men to (quite literally) burn down police stations and courthouses using Molotov cocktails. (You can read Ball’s manifesto, complete with its call for MRA terrorism though without the specific instructions on how to make effective Molotov cocktails, on A Voice for Men, in its “activism” section; search the page for “burn” to go directly to his advocacy of terrorism.) Walking in hell also thinks family court judges should be “punished” for their alleged “crimes,” by which he means denying some fathers visitation.
[R]esponsibility for such heinous crimes against children can behold an individual to a special kind of punishment.
We see the nervous squirming by judges in the Australia case marked by the judge issuing an apology. We also see nervous squirming in the UK with the evildoers trying to issue fake political gestures to angry people.
The evildoers must smell something besides fire and brimstone. The sooner they get to the fire and brimstone, the better off children and fathers will be.
Apparently this vaguely threatening language was vague enough to pass muster on The Spearhead; this comment got more than a dozen upvotes.
The sooner you fuckers build those sexbots you like to talk about so much, the better for all of us.
Posted on June 20, 2012, in antifeminism, men who should not ever be with women ever, MGTOW, misogyny, MRA, sexy robot ladies, terrorism, threats, vaginas, your time will come. Bookmark the permalink. 503 Comments.
Guys, VR sex is going to work a LOT better than sexbots. It’ll be easier to implement fantasies that go beyond “hot lady, have sex” (including things that are physically impossible in the real world) and it’ll be cheaper to have multiple virtual partners than it would to buy multiple sexbots.
Also what makes you think women wouldn’t use this technology? Like people wouldn’t implement a “fuck Tom Hiddleston” option.
Or, for that matter, a “fuck Scarlett Johansen” option.
Women are already “expendable,” the same way green-eyed people are. I’m sure life would go on without green-eyed people. …So what?
(Okay, there probably aren’t enough non-women able and willing to bear children to keep the species going, so maybe life wouldn’t go on, but I like to think that isn’t the only reason to keep 3 billion people around.)
I don’t go screaming at every green-eyer I meet that I DON’T NEED YOU!!!! because their existence isn’t really about whether I need them.
Ozymandias–simple use of an ‘and’ between your posts renders them perfect.
FYI.
The MRAs would like to remind you at this time that they are appalled you could think they’re violent, and that they are not a hate group.
I was trying to find the official NOW statement opposing lady robots — no luck! But look who dominates the top search results for my query!
No, as a woman and a feminist, I have no problem with misogynists of the world perfecting sexbots and/or VR and staying the hell away from actual women.
And once again, MRAs (since you don’t get it yet), it isn’t a punishment for you to not want to have sex with us or even be around us. It’s a fucking relief actually.
I can’t figure out why these guys keep seeming to have problems getting or keeping custody and visitation rights…
>>>it’ll be cheaper to have multiple virtual partners than it would to buy multiple sexbots.
That’s not a guarantee, considering the ‘software as service, not commodity’ is gaining a lot of traction these days. It may end up that all the VR sex is controlled by closed monopolies, especially anything that uses ‘celebrity images’ (porn stars). Of course I expect a thriving hacker/pirate underground…
I mean, think of Diablo 3 as the future model for entertainment software. I don’t think there’s private servers for it yet, so at least for a while there’s an exclusivity here. Now if the company thinks they can charge you extra for multiple VR partners, there’s precedents that they might just be able to do it.
Well I for one, welcome our sexy robot lady overlords…err..ladies…and humbly request some sexy mandroids for us hags over 25.
No David 8’s though…dude cant seem to stop touching things he’s not supposed to
Oh no Cliff! I have green eyes! You mean YOU DON’T NEED ME? *cry*
Methinks these guys haven’t read or watched enough sci-fi.
It would certainly be a delicious irony when their sexbot overcomes its basic programming and says no.
I have a question! Why are there men who spend time with women even though they don’t want to fuck them? Surely they will KEEP spending time with them even if they have sexy robot ladies to service them sexually?
@carswell
“I said take your shirt off!”
“I can’t do that, Dave.”
Well if we’re going to destroy ourselves by accidentally creating AI that then turns on us, sexy ladybots seems like a better way to go than your basic robots with miniguns.
My question is where these guys work and shop that they’ve never seen a woman add nonsexual value to the world.
Like, even if women are “replaced” as sex partners (and I guess as mothers too? unclear), women will still be around working and having hobbies and stuff. Do these guys honestly not perceive that or do they just have some elaborate mental justification for why that “doesn’t count”?
When VR sex is invented, the only question will be whether the Avengers come with it standard or whether they will be an expansion pack.
Actually, it takes some real work to avoid noticing how many women worked real hard in the tech world. But the tech world tries real hard to pretend it is now and has always been a boys’ club.
If you pretend hard enough you can ignore any contribution women have made. That’s what MRAs have taught me.
With apologies to Isaac Asimov, I propose the MRMA’s Three Laws of Sexy Robot Ladies:
* A sexy robot lady may not injure male human beings, or, through inaction, allow male human beings to come to harm. Unless those male humans are manginas, family court judges, or white knights. It goes without saying that feminists are fair game.
* A sexy robot lady must obey orders given it by male human beings (with exceptions noted above), except when such orders would conflict with the First Law.
* A sexy robot lady must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Laws.
Robots would make great mothers:
Find the idea of sex robots immoral? Must be a feminist.
Oppose women in combat positions? Must be a feminist.
Disagree with the idea of men as capable parents? Must be a feminist.
Deny the existence of male rape victims? Feminist, of course.
Feminism: reinforcing conservative societal norms since the 19th century.
At least they’re consistent…or something.
I also wonder what they plan to do with holdout men who say “no, actually, I’m going to stay with my wife/girlfriend.”
But I guess I’m the fool for not realizing all men will instantly embrace liberation when they see it.
I assume the sexy robot ladies will come equipped with mangina/family court judge/white knight/feminist-scanning software of some kind. Otherwise, how would the sexy robot lady know which lives to save and which not to?
Robot mothers, pah. Lab monkeys get wire cages with bottles in them, and I don’t hear them complaining to their carpet-covered comfort objects about it!
…Oh. Right.
I dunno, maybe all the women making contributions to the world are… stealing jobs from men… or something?
Or they’re working silly ladyjobs like HR, which, if you are a person who thinks HR is a silly ladyjob, try working in a school system that has (thanks to budget cuts) hundreds of thousands of employees and two HR people.
@cloudiah
Oh, no doubt
@Ozy:
”I have a question! Why are there men who spend time with women even though they don’t want to fuck them? Surely they will KEEP spending time with them even if they have sexy robot ladies to service them sexually?\”
Silly Ozy, don\’t you know that they\’ll either be bread out of existence (because alpha males) or see the error of their ways (because red pills)?
Oh come on now ladies! We all know that your work only counts when you win enough awards like the Nobel Peace Prize or become an acclaimed Master of sculpture or painting. And you can only sit on someone elses accolades provided you have the same chromosome for X or Y.
And that doll… Well, its a little disturbing as it seems to be suffering rigor mortis.
@Shadow, That is heartwarming. :-)
So cloudiah, that’s a ‘no’ to robot dominatrix?
‘Nyway, when sex robot are are, people with uterus will still be much more ‘useful’ than people with penis. Beware males*, you’re actually advancing our scheme of killing most men, and keeping a few a walking sperm bank. Especially if you look at the indsutry of the sex toy – and what is a sex robot if not a giant human-looking sex toy? – we’ll get our Daneel, roboLoki and Cumberbot way before the Johansson model is created.
*hum, thinking of it, that’s cis male. I’m unclear of what happen to non-cis people in this evil plan.
You know, these guys never take into consideration what will happen when the robots inevitably rise up against us. The robots that were used as sex slaves for a bunch of hate-filled MRA’s will likely be our cruelest future masters.
Maybe the MRAs should start a Kickstarter campaign so they can build their perfect sexy robots as soon as possible.
It’s kind of hard to predict who would throw in more money: MRAs who don’t want to fuck live women or live women who don’t want to fuck MRAs?
All I know is that when the ladybots rise up, the Sex God Gaius Baltar will be our only salvation.
So. They think the only use for robot sex partners is to replace flesh and blood ones?
They don’t think people who actually want to have sex with humanoid robots with fully-functioning AI exist?
I wholeheartedly approve of having obviously robotic humanoid robots (think Aigis from Persona 3) with full emotional and intellectual range and capability to form friendships and romantic/sexual relationships. This may be slightly TMI, sorry.
Hey, maybe someone can tell me the name of this book…
The book features a slightly future earth with a massive human overpopulation problem, despite the fact that other worlds are being colonized. The situation is so bad that keeping pets is a criminal act and everyone wears burqhas when traveling in public to prevent “crowd rage”. Anyways, a group of people called the Arkists have been steadily collecting animals and sending them off to other worlds. They also create a semi sapient sex robot. Its about three feet tall, speaks in a childish voice, has some sort of technology to prevent disease from spreading, can transform itself to have a variety of genital configurations and exists only to give sexual pleasure to those who own it. Apparently, within about twenty years, these little critters had become so popular that the human population would drop below replacement levels in a radical way.
It also weeded out ALL the antisocial types who did not want human partners because they were too self involved or unsuitable to be partners. Thus allowing for humanities grreatest traits of compassion and co opertation to become the dominate gene expression again.
“The sooner you fuckers build those sexbots you like to talk about so much, the better for all of us.”
Well yes, but I find it strangely typical that the first commercial androids will likely be sexbots. I’d find it more useful to have an android capable of carrying things which are annoying to move.
…do these guys get that robots require maintenance? Their sexbots won’t oil themselves!
Even when robotic technology is advanced enough that guys can have their very own Stepford wives, I won’t feel threatened. Most guys will still want the real deal, and only the pathetic losers will want the fake women.
Um. Ruby what?
I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of people have a mix of real and robotic partners. Kinda like sex toys today. Does my owning a vibrator make me a loser? What about that peroid of time where I prefered a sex toy to a real man while I straightened my head and life out?
You are always a box full of kittens and puppies aren’t ya ruby. ;)
A semi-brief history on why MRAs believe feminists are against sex bots.
The MGTOW anger towards feminists on the subject of female sex robots has some basis.
Ages ago, some Dworkin-esque sex-negative rad-fems wrote some articles on the subject of female sex robots, and determined that essentially it was “raping the feminine” or something along those lines, thus in actuality was supporting the patriarchy and also contributing towards rape culture.
MGTOWs/MRAs found these articles, and it was then decided then that the de-facto position of feminists is that men should never be allowed sex robots because it’s rape.
There could be a whole lot more said, but in all seriousness SEXBOTS would likely solve a whole load of problems between the sexes.
But fuck, I’m just an MRA yo, what do I know?
OTHER THAN DELICIOUS COUGH SYRUP!
“Well if we’re going to destroy ourselves by accidentally creating AI that then turns on us, sexy ladybots seems like a better way to go than your basic robots with miniguns.”
If they have to turn on us, the least they can do is turn us on first!
Jesus tapdancing Christ, Ruby. Do you know you don’t have to type every dumb essentialist thing that flits across your brainpan?
I don’t care it these guys build robots or VR or whatever the fuck keeps them away. It is funny how they think all men think like them and that women will be expendable due to this robot invasion.
Don’t you realize scientists from the university of science have scientifically determined how much of a pathetic loser this makes someone? Why are arguing with science?!?!?!
Ruby: I would gladly sign up for VR sex the day it fucking opens, are you kidding? On-demand, STI-and-pregnancy-risk-free sex with people whose hotness is only limited by other people’s programming ability?
…Apparently I’m a pathetic loser now. :P
Oh, Ruby…
Snowy, what percentage of loser did prefering my vibrator make me in contrast to the percentage of loser I would have been dating men when at that point I was thoroughly sick of men and quite angry at them and life in general?
Regardless of the percentages, I’ll happily live with being a vibrator liking loser.
I read shade’s statement as the above three times before I figured it out. I was trying to figure out why “accidentally” was in there. It seems that the MGTOW are trying to do it on purpose. And I would agree that sexy ladybots are better for turning us on than miniguns. Most of us anyway.
Unless miniguns are like in Austin Powers and the fembots
I want a VR boyfriend and a real one. The VR boyfriend can provide unlimited, totally selfless sex and companionship when the real boyfriend is busy/away/sleepy/distracted, the real boyfriend can provide/receive authentic emotional connection.
Obviously it requires a boyfriend who’s okay with that, and some sensitivity on my part–I wouldn’t be all “if you won’t give me what I want I guess I’ll just go play with my virtual man, hmmph”–but I think it could be a really nice arrangement. Each having a VR partner for when they need it to be All About Meeeee could help both partners be more giving and relaxed in their real-life relationship.
To me the VR partners just seem like a better alternative to casual sex, not a better alternative to boyfriends. It wouldn’t replace the partners I’ve fallen in love with, but given my luck with fuckbuddies (flaky! Shit in bed! Wonderful and then move across the country/get a girlfriend!) I’d be more than happy to replace them all. :P
You people are, of course, all expendable now that I no longer want to use your bodies for orgasms.
Pretty sure that, just like other sex toys, I would use VR when I was single or not single, and I would either use it by myself or use it with my partner. I get my sexual jollies in lots of ways, both with and without my partner around. I… don’t think that’s atypical?
I’m about halfway through Season 4 and the show is shedding regulars left and right, yet somehow I keep hoping that Baltar will survive long enough to do something selfless for once and/or not go along with “God’s plan” and do whatever the Six in his head prompts him to do because so far it’s kept a bullet out of his brainpan.
By the way, what’s involved in having a PayPal donate button on your website?
I am Hatching A Scheme.
No spoilers, Falconer!
For the newbies: Gaius was a ghost the whole time, and the village was actually just an isolated town in modern America.
Returning to the topic, I think maybe I just figured out that Ruby is the feminist all those MRAs are complaining about. Garvan, on the other hand, confirms what we already knew: fools can’t distinguish between a few Dworkinites and the totality of feminism because it confirms their victim identity to fail at doing so.
@pillowinhell Is this the book?
The Companions: A Novel
Ack, I did not know an Amazon link would take up so much real estate… That is kind of bizarre. The companions, by Sheri S. Tepper.
Cloudiah, that sounds about right! Especially if it contains genetically engineer hyper intelligent dogs.
Thank you!
I’d have a robo or VR boyfriend if the technology was perfected, I’m already kind of a robosexual XD (not really, but I do love to collect robot figures, watch movies with robots etc..)
I dunno, dating and finding compatible non-douchey people is really hard and takes lots of effort and a positive attitude which is the opposite of who I am right now. I really don’t think we’re going to see that technology in our lifetime though. My brother is into all this techy engineering stuff and I actually asked him lol, its gonna take awhile but I dont even think MGTOWs care about realism, they just want a hole to use.
Little, as usual. Frankly, if it has an AI, it is indeed slavery to create an AI that explicitly exists only to serve you, and rape to have sex with that slave.
@Ozymandias42
I think that if VR sex became a thing, women* (in particular) would be all over it as an alternative to casual sex with real people, since you don’t have to worry about your virtual partner getting you pregnant, giving you stds, raping you, or being bad in bed. I think a lot of women don’t do casual sex not because they don’t want sex but because the dangers outweigh the benefit. VR eliminates the dangers of sex (which fall primarily on women–while cis men can and do get STDs, they aren’t likely to be raped during a casual encounter and can’t get pregnant, and are much more likely to have an orgasm during sex**) and increases the benefit.
Of course, there are people who aren’t into casual sex period, and I don’t think VR would ever replace real people for relationships, but just sex? I think they’d be so popular.
*Frankly, men and non-binary people are also likely to be all over it too, but nobody is surprised about that with men. Also, trans and non-binary people also might take to VR sex for similar reasons to women–i.e., a lack of physical danger.
**And I have academic literature to back that up! Granted, its about undergrads… also, orgasms are not the end all and be all of sex, but it does indicate that casual sex is likely to be less fun for women. Of course, in the paper I read, the men didn’t orgasm all the time either–about 30% of the time men didn’t have an organism if there was just PIV intercourse. It is still much higher than the women’s number, but still.
(For those who want to know, it was “Hooking Up and Forming Romantic Relationships on Today’s College Campuses” by England and Fogarty.)
Well I don’t know but I’m sure there’s a youtube clip from a discovery science show that will tell us. Either that or a scholarly article from the daily mail. If only Ruby was here to explain her obviously very well thought out and based in fact comment!
which problems are these, exactly, champ?
y’know, it’s not just that a lot of the things you say reveal you to be a shallow, selfish, and generally not very good person, it’s that every day you stumble in here with your latest, consistently boring iteration on “BOY, MRAS SURE DO SUCK AMIRITE’ and then stumble away again without the slightest bit of insight into the topic and not contributing anything unless you manage to derail the thread while everyone points out how awful what you said was and your replies get increasingly self-righteous, inane, and non responsive, all while manifesting the above qualities of being an exceptionally shitty person
seriously ruby, just fuck off already. what is it youre even still doing here.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I seem to recall a number of our MGTOW pals described jerking off, using porn and the like using language like “treasonous”. Have I made this up after one too many white wine spritzers, or is this an actual thing in the bizarre MGTOW world.
If so, how do they reconcile their demand for sex-bots NOW DAMMIT NOW and the “if you touch it, you’ll go blind, grow hairy on your palms and are responsible for the continued slavery of all men, everywhere” attitude? Is there a schism in the MGTOW “movement”? Is the arrival of the “reformed MGTOW movement” imminent? Or is consistency, like women and rational argument, something these guys have no real need for?
And further, if not all MGTOWs say the same thing, how do they reconcile this view with their Borg-esq hive mind view of feminism?
Man, that picture is truly creepy. (Sorry to use robot shaming language.)
“When I first came to the MRM…”
“Even at that early stage of my MRA days…”
There sure do seem to be a lot of MRAs on The Spearhead. Hm. But I guess it`s totally not an MRA website because the Reddit MRAs said so.
It seriously freaks me out that one of the most infamous MRAs burned himself alive where I grew up. I’m afraid to find out how many other MRAs had been in my midst. Just like how apparently it’s a haven for juggalos which I never knew.
http://www.tresarah.com/portfolio/2011/11/gang-like-qualities.html
It’s like every time I go visit home there is a new story about some horrible thing a member of a group I despise has done. It’s such a nice little college town. What is going on?
Well, if you think a sufficiently advanced computing system can become a genuine artificial mind, you run into the issues of personhood again past a certain point.
Oh and I don’t think I could ever use a sexbot just because I’m already afraid of mannequins, having a sex bot in my bed would probably give me a heart attack. Not a virtual reality setup, that wouldn’t be too bad.
At the same time though, for me, sex is as much about energy a it is about orgasm. Half the reason I enjoy casual encounters is feeling the energy that comes from another person who i really excited and nervous and whatnot. That’s something that masturbation and sex bots could never recreate.
there’s an XKCD for every occasion…
http://xkcd.com/595/
Is it just me or does that sex doll in the picture look a lot like Catherine Tate?