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Reddit Island: Redditors plan to set up their own island utopia. They are so excited. It’s adorable! [UPDATED w/ SRS LINK]

From ShitRedditSays

Sorry to interrupt the regular proceedings here with an off-topic post, but I have just discovered the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever seen: A bunch of Redditors are talking about getting their own motherfucking  island! Reddit Island! Where they will live, and farm algae, and give each other massages, and all the other things you do on an island of your own.

Naturally, the discussion is extremely Reddit-tastic. Here, after one Redditor says he may have found them a perfect island, PlutoISaPlanet asks the obvious question:

girls? are there girls there?

You need to read the entire discussion that follows, which will also help to explain why they may have trouble getting girls to sign up.

Bludstone, meanwhile, raises some practical questions:

As there is -still- no reddit island business plan, there is no real reason to be looking for physical islands yet. We need a comprehensive mathematical analysis on how to make a profitable (or at least sustainable) island living.

And ive said that since day 1.

Later in the discussion – which you also need to read in its entirety — he accuses his fellow Reddit Island enthusiasts of being a bunch of unserious dabblers in the fine art of island-utopia-making:

You need a comprehensive plan, contracts vetted by lawyers on both sides, etc.

Honestly this whole project has screamed AMATEURS from the start. Its a real shame since its a cool as hell idea.

One enthusiastic newbie has some questions, including:

Property buying and selling, rights, early adopters, etc’, what’s the current consensus on that? If I “donate”/”pledge” $100 right now, will it assure anything for when the time comes? Will I get a small place where I can build my hut? or will I get a 2 bedroom apartment in a 50 stories high sky scraper?

In still another thread, Reddit Islanders reject one island in Florida – on sale for $42,000 —  as too small, though one suggests they could build a tall tower on it to accommodate more Redditors.

Another frugal Redditor suggests they could start out by building houses out of old shipping pallets!

But if you’re going to need a shipping container just to get the pallets out there, another asks, why not just live in the shipping container?

People, I cannot tell you how enthusiastic I am about the prospect of a bunch of Redditors moving to some tiny island in the middle of nowhere to live in a shipping container.

EDITED TO ADD: ArchangelleDworkin of SRS is on the case, and it turns out this post isn’t quite as off-topic as I thought. In fact, it’s totally on-topic, as she shows with this collection of horrible shit the Reddit Islanders have been saying about women (while lamenting the fact that their never-going-to-happen island project would be a total sausage fest).

If you follow her links you’ll discover even more poop that she didn’t even bother to link to. On Reddit, there is literally too much poop for ordinary humans to catalog.

Also, I  totally stole her Reddit island graphic.

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Posted on June 9, 2012, in grandiosity, idiocy, off topic, reddit. Bookmark the permalink. 118 Comments.

  1. Howard Bannister

    But they all agree they won’t need a governmental body or police force. I mean, how would disputes ever arise?

    I believe all the lulz go right here.

  2. Argenti Aertheri

    “You’ve got back-to-nature types who want to live off the land with no plumbing or electricity trying to hack out a plan with technocratic utopians who want helicopters, hydroponic farms, superfuels, and space colonies.”

    Hey reddit? You can build your own rainwater collection system and solar water heater, and solar panels are getting reasonably priced…might want to consider hand crank flashlights instead of burning through batteries…and you’ll miss indoor plumbing within the first week or two. Also, cholera — do seriously consider proper toilets, outhouses on islands will poison your groundwater, should that be drinkable in the first place (not that you can generally get to it without an electricity powered drill anyways, do have fun drilling hundreds of feet by hand though I guess).

    “But they all agree they won’t need a governmental body or police force. I mean, how would disputes ever arise?”

    This is just epic — they can’t decide now on weapons, but don’t think they’ll have disputes in person?!

  3. “But they all agree they won’t need a governmental body…”

    As long as they realize that they would still be answerable to whatever government has claim on the island. Libertarians hoping to create their own utopia have come across this same problem – every bit of land on Earth (except Antarctica) has been claimed by one nation or another and none of them are willing to give them up thanks to the sheer amount of space off the coasts of those islands it gives them control of.

  4. Kendra, the bionic mommy

    Ruby Hypatia — “Now how would those shipping containers hold up in a tropical storm?” — could hold up well if they were planning this logically, they can be welded straight to the foundation if you build container homes like normal homes (people do this, I’m not jut making shit up) — they’re supposedly strong enough to ride out a wildfire in, though I wouldn’t want to test that one.

    If they aren’t anchored down, they can withstand wind speeds of up to 100 mph. If they are anchored down, they can withstand wind speeds of 175 mph, which would be what you’d have with a category 5 hurricane. I would say they are probably safe, but if they wanted to be extra sure and have a structure that guarantees survival for the strongest hurricanes and even tornadoes, then they would want an above ground Dupont storm shelter with Kevlar (maybe not to live in all the time, because they’re costly, but just to survive storms).

    I also realized that most of the Redditors in this plan are probably in the same age range. Have they planned for how they will get care when they become elderly? Will they have babies on the island or will it be a one generation thing? Well, I know the answer is it’s not going to happen anyway, but this is yet another flaw with their plan.

    might want to consider hand crank flashlights instead of burning through batteries

    I have a solar powered flashlight. You can put backup batteries in it, but it’s not necessary. It produces more light than a hand crank one, and the LED light is supposed to last a lifetime. They are cheap at Lowe’s.

  5. Argenti Aertheri

    solar powered flashlight sounds so wrong, but I’m half not surprised, Ikea has little solar lights — I’ve never really liked the hand cranked ones, so I’m making a mental note of that. (Only suggested it because getting batteries, on an island with no shops, in a storm? Not Happening)

    Are those wind speeds cargo specific or wood home ones? The anchoring is different is why I ask (the former can be welded together and to the foundation supports, but I’ve never seen numbers on how solid that really is)

  6. Kendra, the bionic mommy

    @Argenti Aertheri, yes the numbers I found were specifically for cargo containers. I found the stats at a container homes FAQ

    I suppose if they buried the cargo containers, they would also be more storm resistant, but then they’d have the problem of how to keep them from flooding. They could install a sump pump for each one, but that would require a source of energy. If they had solar powered sump pumps, they’d still have the problem of what to do in case the pump has a mechanical failure. Someone on the island would need to be a repairman with the equipment necessary to fix things. Zie would also have to teach other people how to do it, too, in case zie dies or is unable to work any more. Ha ha, is it wrong that I’m putting so much thought into such a ridiculous scenario? For some reason, I’m having fun with this.

  7. Argenti Aertheri

    Kendra, sorry, that question came off as curt didn’t it? They scare me like nothing else and perks of being in new england include being able to generally ignore them — I’ve been through one tornado, an F4 when I was 4, terrifying, absolutely terrifying, I’ll take a blizzard any day.

  8. Kendra, the bionic mommy

    I think it would be ideal if they built dome houses. Monolithic domes are virtually indestructible, safe from fires, earthquakes, hurricanes, tornadoes, and termites. A monolithic dome can be usable for centuries. They are also extremely energy efficient. Now I have no idea how any of the island Redditors would actually build these domes, but they would certainly meet their needs.

  9. Argenti Aertheri

    “Ha ha, is it wrong that I’m putting so much thought into such a ridiculous scenario?” — eh, maybe? I think F4+ may kinda break one’s brain a bit though, actually seeing just what nature can dish out for no reason at all is goddamned terrifying after all. (See, even the words “after all” seem odd in context, as in “you mean once everything lands?” >.< )

  10. Argenti Aertheri

    I’ve seen the domes done with balloons basically — blow the balloon thing up and then concrete around it…they’re weird, and kind of cute in a hobbit-esque way.

  11. Kendra, the bionic mommy

    Kendra, sorry, that question came off as curt didn’t it? They scare me like nothing else and perks of being in new england include being able to generally ignore them — I’ve been through one tornado, an F4 when I was 4, terrifying, absolutely terrifying, I’ll take a blizzard any day.

    Oh no, that didn’t come off as curt at all. No worries. :-)

    I’ve never been in a blizzard, so I can’t compare the two disasters. In Joplin, we consider anything over 6″ of snow a “blizzard” lol. I haven’t been through any other disaster but last year’s tornado, and it was enough. I feel for you going through such a thing as a small child. I know it was hard on my own children, too, because they’re too little to understand.

    I think that weather disasters are yet another thing the Redditors aren’t planning for. They’re too busy planning on how to get laid on their island. Ha ha ha, got to keep their priorities straight!

  12. Kendra, the bionic mommy

    When I said “ridiculous scenario”, I meant the scenario of the Redditors even moving to an island at all, not planning for a disaster. That’s just a good idea for everyone, since it’s impossible to know what the future holds.

  13. Argenti Aertheri

    Kendra — I’m from CT, we’re used to waking up to the car being covered (as in “shit, where’s the car, I think it’s that lump?”) — not used to tornadoes of any size, so it was weird. Strangely not as bad as you’d think though, no one died from the tornadoes and one person died from the thunderstorm winds. Nothing compared to what Joplin went through, took til I was a teenager to not spend thunderstorms on tornado watch, so I feel for your kids (and you and the rest of Joplin).

    “I think that weather disasters are yet another thing the Redditors aren’t planning for.” — yeah definitely, and if they’re looking at islands that aren’t 10+ above sea level, the tsunami risk is high. This could go terribly bad in so many ways, if they ever get it to remotely work that is.

    This storm if you’re curious (and look, I wasn’t 4, I was 10 days shy of 4, happy-fucking-birthday eh?)

  14. Argenti Aertheri

    “When I said “ridiculous scenario”” — I figured, it’s why I replied about tornadoes, because apparently even new england gets F4’s once every couple of decades. (meanwhile “snowpocalypse” was bad planning, not an usually bad storm)

  15. Kendra, the bionic mommy

    That 1989 outbreak looked terrible. I’m glad there were no casualties, and that you didn’t get hurt, either. That’s really amazing considering how strong the tornadoes were in populated areas.

    I’ve seen the domes done with balloons basically — blow the balloon thing up and then concrete around it…they’re weird, and kind of cute in a hobbit-esque way.

    Yeah, they stand out a bit in the US, where most houses are built of studs. If it weren’t for that, I think they’d be more prevalent, considering how durable and ecologically friendly they are. Another drawback is that it’s hard to plumb when pipes leak, because the pipes are in concrete, but that’s a problem for houses built on slabs, too. At least with slab houses, a plumber can reroute pipes through the attic, but you can only use certain types of pipes that expand instead of freeze. Then again, this wouldn’t be a problem for the island Redditors, since they plan to live without running water and sewers anyway.

    Would the Redditors bring a supply of vaccines, too? Don’t some vaccines also require refrigeration? If they won’t have doctors or medicine, then they should at least vaccinate. Then again, the UN or Rotary might vaccinate the Redditors against polio anyway, because they’re trying to eradicate it worldwide. What if they vaccinate ahead of time but don’t get booster shots? Then they’d be at risk for tetanus every time they got injured.

  16. Argenti Aertheri

    Re: the ’89 tornadoes — the CT governor called it a miracle no one was killed, and I’m inclined to agree (despite my usual atheist bend even — the “highly improbable” part certainly fits)

    Re: dome houses — it’s partly the zoning laws, as I have actually considered trying get a cargo container home zoned and there’s just nothing for non-standard construction in many places. The interior walls could be wood/steel studs, so the plumbing doesn’t seem too impossible. I still say outhouses on an island is just asking for trouble though, they need some sort of sewage system (and this should probably be concern #1 considering how important it is for the medical issues).

    Re: vaccines — I’d thought they all required refrigeration, but I could be wrong there. MSF certainly makes a big deal out of the issues of vaccinating populations in remote areas because of this issue though. And you’ve just reminded me to check how the 2012 polio rate is looking, because it really looks like they’re going to do it.

  17. Argenti Aertheri

    Wow…67 cases so far this year, versus 195 year-to-date for 2011, that’s a third…and all in four countries — Pakistan, Afghanistan, Nigeria and Chad. Polio is actually going to go the way of smallpox.

  18. Polio is actually going to go the way of smallpox.

    Really? Awesome!

  19. Making and maintaining a proper outhouse involves a lot more more than just a hole in the ground. My grandparents paid a guy to maintain my great grandfather’s when he was very old (he had indoor plumbing at that point that the Adult Services people insisted he have put in, which he refused to use, because apparently indoor plumbing is a rich snobby city people conceit e_e). I’m imagining the methane explosions and ammonia inhalation deaths on top of issues around the water table, pit filling, proper use of lime/ash/sawdust, etc, from redditors improperly building and maintaining outhouses.

    I grew up in a rural poor area. The reality looks nothing like rich suburbanite fantasies. And we weren’t the worst off people I knew, and I grew up after the institution of federal programs to expand electricity, running water, and medical care further out, but I still have more than my fair share of stories that upperclass suburban people think are too outrageous to actually be true.

    Dear island utopia fantasizers, the reality is less like this:

    and more like this:

    (I think I’ve linked that song to survival fantasy mras before too)

  20. Making and maintaining a proper outhouse involves a lot more more than just a hole in the ground.

    There’s been a lack of enthusiasm for even a hole-in-the-ground level of effort. One guy argued that they wouldn’t need a sanitation system because they’d agree to produce “a minimum of waste.” If only the rest of the world had been smart enough to think of that…

    On a related note, two things I haven’t seen mentioned at all: garbage collection and bathing.

  21. One guy argued that they wouldn’t need a sanitation system because they’d agree to produce “a minimum of waste.”

    Redditors are the last people on Earth I’d believe were voluntarily producing less crap.

  22. CassandraSays

    “One guy argued that they wouldn’t need a sanitation system because they’d agree to produce “a minimum of waste.”

    So, like…they’re just going to try really hard not to poop very much? Yeah, this is going to work out great.

  23. @darksidecat, How I love that song. Now you’ve started me off on a Dolly Parton binge…

  24. This is just epic — they can’t decide now on weapons, but don’t think they’ll have disputes in person?!

    Like the armchair libertarians they are, they seem to believe that if they can engineer the perfect constitution/contract ahead of time, it will eliminate all future problems. Similarly, there are members trying to work out a permanent division of property and income. Like, if you contribute 10% to the purchase of the island now, you’ll own 10% of the island and its income in perpetuity. This will cause no arguments down the road, because they’ll have a contract.

  25. Argenti Aertheri

    katz — really

  26. Pecunium — “Imagine the shock when they discover there is no internet.” — they have a plan for that! Some expensive satellite system…no sign of medical care though (priorities, they’ve got some)

    NOOOO! The only upside of them secluding themselves to their own island is so that they can leave everyone else alone. If they have the internet they’re still bothering people.

    That dome thing is cool. I would be interested in making one that was really nice to look at on top of being super safe, because that thing is ugly. The lack of windows is a bummer too. I’d need to figure out a way to build windows into it without compromising the integrity of the structure, and dome house here I come. Def interested in making it shire-style in like, the woods up in Maine. That would be awesome.

    And yeah Argenti, winter sucks but it’s better than tornadoes and stuff. The worst thing we’ve had to deal with living here is long, drawn-out power outages. When we lived in a super rural area of New Hampshire (I’m talking dirt road off a dirt road) there was a time when we lost power for over a week. It was then that we finally caved and got a generator.

    Then last October that random snow storm that took all the power lines down because the trees still had so many leaves left that the branches were too heavy so it took at least a week in some areas to get power back. It’s bizarre that the people who plan New England towns don’t consider moving trees away from power lines to avoid this stuff.

    I feel bad for the people out in WMass. They keep getting hit with tornadoes. WTF is going on out there?

  27. Like the armchair libertarians they are, they seem to believe that if they can engineer the perfect constitution/contract ahead of time, it will eliminate all future problems.

    Because last time people in the US came up with a constitution, it eliminated all disagreements forever.

  28. And if this magical Eutopian Island ever eventuates? How long till they find a conch, start killing the wildlife, and eventually each other?

    I’m not a betting woman, but them odds look good to me. $100 on the Fielding version of this island.

  29. Argenti: Kendra, sorry, that question came off as curt didn’t it? They scare me like nothing else and perks of being in new england include being able to generally ignore them — I’ve been through one tornado, an F4 when I was 4, terrifying, absolutely terrifying, I’ll take a blizzard any day.

    I hate tornadoes… I’ll take earthquakes, any day of the week. (I’ve lived through both).

  30. Argenti Aertheri

    Eh, as long as you mean the <6 kind? Otherwise my vote remains on blizzards — have you done a nor'easter? They're not nearly as bad as anything that tries ripping off or caving in your roof (I guess they could cave it in, in theory, but I've never known it to happen)

  31. Argenti: I mean the less than 7.3 kind; with the caveat that I live in places which are prepared for them. I used to live in Cleveland, and I’ve lived in the Mojave (as well as the time I spent in the Cradle of Civilisation). I’ve lived through windstorms that were more than capable of killing people; and certainly made one miserable. 80 MPH gusts, and steady winds of 35MPH for days on end is it’s own minor hell.

    Of all the weather/disasters (earthquakes, fires, flash floods, wind, blizzards… BTW, I was born in Pittsburgh), I’ll take tornadoes last.

  32. Kendra, the bionic mommy

    I’m imagining the methane explosions and ammonia inhalation deaths on top of issues around the water table, pit filling, proper use of lime/ash/sawdust, etc, from redditors improperly building and maintaining outhouses.

    No kidding. My dad and his family didn’t have running water until he was a teenager in the early 1960’s. They couldn’t afford to pump their outhouse holes, so when the hole was filled with poo, they’d just dig another hole and move the outhouse, if it was still in good enough condition to save. Dad said that was a gross job. In winter nights, they’d use chamber pots, but he said they stunk up the house. He also hated how the whole family would only bathe once a week and share the same tub of water, so if you go first you’re water was warm and clean. If you were last, the water was dirty.

    My mother in law didn’t live in a house with indoor plumbing until she got married in 1980. Her parents lived on a farm and it wasn’t close enough to any towns to get water service. She also says how they also made their own soap, sewed clothes from potato sacks, never visited a dentist, and people had to deliver their own babies at home with no assistance*.

    I’m so glad to have been born when I was and live where I do. I wouldn’t give up living in Joplin and having city privilege for anything. I am spoiled on having grocery stores, an HVAC system, dental care, police and fire protection, and clean water.

    I hate tornadoes… I’ll take earthquakes, any day of the week. (I’ve lived through both).

    It would depend on how strong the earthquake or tornado was. If we’re comparing a catastrophic earthquake of 9 on the Richter scale vs. an EF5 twister, I would actually choose the tornado. The reason is at least you might get some lead time on the tornado, while you won’t with the earthquake. I had 20 minutes warning before the Joplin tornado, but didn’t actually take the threat seriously until I could hear the roar. As long as someone isn’t complacent about sirens and tornado warnings, they would probably get at least a few minutes to try to take cover and hunker down. You don’t get enough time to go to public storm shelters, though. With an earthquake, there’s not much you can do.

    *I am not saying anything against the home birth movement here. I know that most home birthers still have the assistance of a midwife and can transport to a hospital in the case of complications. I am skeptical about the safety of unassisted home birth, though.

  33. The thing is, you have lead time, of a sort, against an earthquake. You have years, decades, even. All it takes is a bit of political will, to make it safer.

    I recall, all too well, all the hours spent hunkered down, hiding in the cellar, because of tornado warnings.

    One of the first things I asked (at eight years old) when we moved to California was where the cellar was. When told there wasn’t one, I was dumbstruck for a moment and asked, “where do you go when the tornaodoes come?”

    And yes, while there isn’t much to do when an earthquake happens, a well built building will do pretty well, and the sort of collapse a well built building has is moderately predictable. I recall the way in which the houses in the Marina (the worst hit part of SF in the Loma Prieta quake), sort of fell straight down. They went from being two stories, to one.

    But all the pieces were in the same area. Nothing was hauled half a mile and piled up. Nothing was stripped the way I recall the apartment building that was peeled of the wall, and left to look like a doll’s house. The level of apparent caprice,married to the level of total devastation… entire swathes of cities scoured to a patch of empty; well cluttered, dirt.

    I’ve been in several earthquakes in the near 6 range. It’s a rough ride when the happen, but then it’s over. I can take that better then the pregnant pause; and the hoping it won’t come after me, as I wait for the all clear.

  34. Kendra, the bionic mommy

    Oops, the first paragraph was a quote from darksidecat. I goofed up my blockquotes, like always.

    Yeah, so my mother in law thinks me and my husband are soft because we grew up with luxuries and don’t know how to wring a chicken’s neck, turn wheat into flour, wash clothes with a wringer, or anything else like that she used to do. It’s true we lived a pampered life, but we set up her DVD player for her, taught her how to use a crockpot, and taught her how to use a cell phone. So each generation might lose some skills but gain new skills as technology changes.

  35. re indoor plumbing. My mother didn’t have it in her house until she was 10 years old, so that was 1958, in Cleveland (E45th and Superior). The pump wasn’t removed/capped until the 1990s (it was great water).

    I think, from stories family tell, that it wasn’t the last house in the neighborhood to get indoor plumbing.

  36. Argenti Aertheri

    Pecunium — as long as the building it likely to stay intact enough, yeah better than tornadoes. The flash floods are so much fun though /sarcasm (I happened to be on a 6 mile round trip when last summer’s hit, was actually *just* telling my mother that I’ve never seen anything like it) — how’s 35 mph sand compare to snow? Haven’t ever got caught out in a nor’easter, so idk (did get stuck at an ex’s when amtrak closed once, but still, indoors) — that seems it’s own hell regardless what it’s throwing around.

    Kendra — as I’d said above, I’ve debated trying to homestead, even with modern tech it’s a full time job — that sun-mar toilet solves some of the outhouse issues, but you still need to toss in sawdust (though I think they recommend newspaper).

    And I’m agreeing with Kendra on the 9+ vs EF5 — I’d want that brief lead time to run for the basement at least.

    Re: home birth — I think there’s an infinite difference between choosing it and having no other choice, particularly since most people won’t choose it if they’re a high risk pregnancy — midwife assistance and transport can be lifesaving when needed, I’d be wary of not even having the option. (Not that reddit can get the girls in any sense XD )

  37. Argenti Aertheri

    I managed to sleep right through last summer’s strange east coast earthquake, imagine my disappointment to have missed that. Which is weird, I should probably be concerned a bit, but it wasn’t bad enough to do more than wiggle a few bricks out of buildings. Out for a 6 mile walk when a flash flood hits though? That was something I’d rather never do again (I happened to be relatively high up when it hit thankfully, but holy shit was that some impressive rain) — yeah I’ll take earthquakes over flash floods, in theory anyways, in practice it would appear I’m a dunce XD

    Kind of wish I’d tried to photograph the oncoming wall of rain, but I was too busy burying my camera in my bag (it survived, somehow)

    So, which sort of dangerous weather do the redditers want? They can add tsunamis to the list since it’d be an island

  38. Argenti: — how’s 35 mph sand compare to snow? It can strip paint and make you blind.

    The Iraqi sandstorms were a special kind of hell.

    I had just moved when the earthquake happened. It was a bit surreal. They have a fairly specific sort of lurch, and disctinctive sound. But I had no reason to be expecting it, so I was confused.

    We had a not quite hurricane the next week. I forget what the oddball thing was the week before.

    The worst rain I’ve ever been in was 9″ in one hour. It was epic.

    My life sounds somewhat incredible when the individual pieces are placed cheek-by-jowl, all willy-nilly.

  39. Argenti Aertheri

    “The Iraqi sandstorms were a special kind of hell.” — yeah I will definitely pass on that, the stripping paint and blinding makes too much sense now that I think about sandblasting buildings and the like

    “I had just moved when the earthquake happened.” — you mean the east coast one? So you haven’t had a real New England winter yet? Enjoy the 6′ drifts when you do (that’s not that sarcastic, shoving them sucks but they’re so much fun)

    “My life sounds somewhat incredible when the individual pieces are placed cheek-by-jowl, all willy-nilly.” — yeah I have a similar problem, slept through Gloria (and to my mother’s amazement as I was only months old), was mere yards from CT’s only F4 in memory, so many nor’easters, slept through that earthquake, and somehow managed to be crossing a damned bridge when the flash flood rains hit — and that’s just the weather related parts

    We’re under a special weather advisory currently btw, time for another thunderstorm, looks like I’m going to get the center of it any time now too, wouldn’t be surprised if I lose net (fucking comcast)

  40. My mom did grow up with electricity and running water, but she was born in ’64 and remembers when a lot of people in the area didn’t have it. My grandmother’s aunt paid for the house to be remodeled to have it put in as a wedding present. I lived in that house for almost the first year or so of my life, but it burned down when I was a baby and I only have memories of it as a half burned thing that we weren’t supposed to go into because it was dangerous, but did, because being told not to made it extra cool. Underneath the wood paneling and wallpaper, it had those big, thick wood beams without nails. The oldest rooms actually had log cabin like walls underneath.

    The electric company that most people use is a not for profit co-op founded with mostly federal cash, so it has more specific than most rules about providing power to people who are far out and about not shutting off power in certain situations (it’s actually a New Deal remnant, but it was expanded a lot in the late 60s).

  41. Argenti Aertheri

    Pecunium — earthquake then hurricane has to be last august — NYC flooded a few days before we did, I can’t seem to dig up whether it was the same storm system or not though. (And you want weird? I’m apparently just north of the current one, I can hear the thunder but the sun, and the bird, are back out)

    Re: running water, I’m going to bring up all these stories the next time my brother complains about the limitations of our aunt having well water, yeah ok you can’t run the dishwasher and clothes washer on the same day, but she has both.

    darksidecat — your old house sounds like an interesting bit of “build over the previous layer” architecture, that aunt’s house is like that too. She’s got all sorts of random things hanging from the support beams in the first floor ceiling, because why not in a house with giant visible beams? Does have to be the beams, or it’d go right through the floor upstairs…having a swing full of stuffed animals hanging from your living room ceiling is pretty cool though.

    I honestly can’t imagine a house without electricity or running water, call that camping where I’m from XD

  42. Argenti: It was last August.

    As for winter… I laugh at your NE winters. I’ve done winter in Ottawa, and I’ve spent winters in Cleveland. Lake effect snow has been known to make it possible (or needful, depending on how one looks at it) to kneel down to work on the powerlines at the top of the poles.
    :)

  43. Argenti Aertheri

    Pecunium — snow kind of all evens out once it’s above your head, and a 5′ drift is over my sightline *is short* — but yes, nor’easters really aren’t that bad. Neither was the so call snowpocalypse — that was a damned joke, we had calls for 2’+ and our mayor went out to get drunk for his birthday and was unreachable, so plows didn’t roll until nearly a day after the snow started, I spent the entire time laughing that it wasn’t the snow’s fault the mayor is a fool.

  44. Well, I got a sunburn, so there!

  45. I do, however have a reasonable terror of icicles.

  46. [quote]But they all agree they won’t need a governmental body or police force. I mean, how would disputes ever arise?[/quote]
    You are an inspiration to us all.

  47. Howard Bannister

    Pecunium — earthquake then hurricane has to be last august — NYC flooded a few days before we did, I can’t seem to dig up whether it was the same storm system or not though. (And you want weird? I’m apparently just north of the current one, I can hear the thunder but the sun, and the bird, are back out)

    Oh, Irene. Trop Storm/Hurricane/the wind that blew me away.

    Well. Blew my offices away, anyway. And a lot of roads in my poor state. Etc., etc.

  48. “One guy argued that they wouldn’t need a sanitation system because they’d agree to produce “a minimum of waste.”

    So, like…they’re just going to try really hard not to poop very much? Yeah, this is going to work out great.

    EPIC. This project will be the most EPIC THING IN THE HISTORY OF EPICNESS. Oh, the shit (ahem) I miss when I don’t check this site for a while. HAHAHAHAHAHAHahahahaha thank you, oh, I needed this.

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