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Redditor: Do Your Bit for Gender Equality by Telling Women They’re Terrible

Hey fellas, do you ever find yourself wondering: why are women so terrible? Well, over on the Men’s Rights subreddit, a fella named osaap has a partial answer: because dudes don’t criticize them enough!

So, fellas, the next time you see a woman, tell her she’s a mean, thoughtless, selfish, lazy little bitch, and that you won’t be giving her a “pussy pass” any longer. You’ll be doing your part for real gender equality. Pay it forward, by putting her down.

Judging from the dozens of upvotes osaap’s post got, and the almost-100% positive response it received from commenters there, it sounds like a lot of Reddit’s Men’s Rightsers are on board with this ingenious new form of activism.

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Posted on June 3, 2012, in $MONEY$, dozens of upvotes, evil women, I'm totally being sarcastic, misogyny, MRA, oppressed men, pussy pass, reddit. Bookmark the permalink. 191 Comments.

  1. And don’t get me started on the double-standard in sexual misconduct.

    You do realize it is often justified by assertion such as “men have stronger sexual impulses, look how playboy sells well compared to play girl!”

    You defend the double standard. You did here, several times.

  2. Current outfit: A pair of boy’s shorts (not boy shorts, shorts I got from the boy’s section), a loose tee shirt, crocs, and a newsboy cap. Yep, me and my androgynous wardrobe, hairy legs, and my sexy, sexy Macbook, totally oppressing the menz at McDonalds.

    Guy showing off his tattoo and tank top in the booth next to me? Well, that’s just what he decided to wear today, says nothing about his sexuality.

  3. What clothes, exactly, do animals in heat wear?

    All I know is, they all wear fur all the time, and don’t they understand that fur is murder?!

  4. Wait…if I’m getting money, for doing something that the US gov wants…does that mean I’m whoring myself out for my living expenses?!

    No, it means you’re r**ing your language skills for HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OVER YOUR LIFETIME.

    Will your ability to speak Hindi ever hug you?

  5. Current outfit: unisex T-shirt and worn-out jeans, although I’m staying in all day so maybe that doesn’t count.

    Point of order: Are women still flaunting their sexuality if they dress without any expectation of anyone seeing them?

  6. Point of order: Are women still flaunting their sexuality if they dress without any expectation of anyone seeing them?

    I’ve asked NWO this a few times. I think to him it’s like the “if a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound?” question, provided you have a deep, passionate, seething hatred for trees. Fucking slutty trees.

  7. Ruby Hypatia

    Just because there’s a difference in what men and women look for in potential partners, it doesn’t mean there should be a double-standard when it comes to sexual misconduct.

  8. Just because there’s a difference in what men and women look for in potential partners…

    Uh-oh, here we go again. XD

  9. She wants the argument, so she can say she’s not like those extreme (xtreem?) feminists to her libertarian buddies, at this point. And so she can say she’s fighting us instead of letting us win XD

  10. Just because there’s a difference in what men and women look for in potential partners, it doesn’t mean there should be a double-standard when it comes to sexual misconduct.

    Why not, Ruby? You take one silly evo-psych theory, might as well take ‘em all.

  11. CassandraSays

    You guys! I can’t figure out if my outfit today passes the In-Heat Test!* I mean, my jeans are quite snug at the top, but they’re boot cut, and my tshirt has a V neck so you can see about an inch of so of cleavage (and more if I bend over or you’re standing behind me deliberately looking), but it also has elbow-length sleeves and covers the top of my pants. Am I sort of in half-heat?

    * With NWO it’s probably safe to assume that “female body, in something other than a full Mennonite dress” passes the in-heat test, I guess.

    Ruby, your wacky beliefs about men’s and women’s sexuality and how they’re supposedly completely different is what the sexual double standard is based on, and what keeps it going. You are part of the problem.

  12. Just because you’re saying women are A and men are B doesn’t make it so. Especially when you have plenty of women saying they’re B themselves.
    You still don’t see why we feel insulted that you’re speaking for us by projecting your own feelings?

    I personally prefer men with less muscle, I was going for conventional beauty. Do you actually think the average reaction of western* straight women will think “Meh, not their best
    side. Please dress up”? Or “I wonder which one is the richest”?

    How do you even account for the existence of boys bands? Of (actual) lesbian porn? of this calendar (as I said before, this is not marketed to gay men)
    Of our friggin’ experiences? Again, DO WE LIE?

    *to limit a bit differences in beauty conventions

  13. CassandraSays

    Eh, I already gave Ruby an example of a famously sexy male pop star dancing on a stripper pole and she still didn’t listen. This one has difficulty grasping the difference between “me” and “all women”, apparently.

  14. Kyrie: I think the one in the striped underwear is the richest.

    You know how a lot of MRAs seem to get their ideas of female behavior from porn and stupid TV shows? Now I’m imagining lonely women getting their ideas about men from that ad. “That’s what guys do, right? They hang out in their underwear on a dock and pour water on each other.”

  15. How self-damning of him, in an unaware way. I think most of us understand that although looks ARE a standard women are often judged by, it’s not the only one. (Some people will even project other sorts of baggage onto women they think are pretty, but that’s a whole digression there.) Nobody likes meanness or duplicity in women any more than men – essentially when this guy says “men” hold women to no standards but their looks, it’s really that HE doesn’t see anything about women beyond their looks.

    This ALMOST teeters on the brink of an epiphany, i.e. “Hey, maybe instead of just judging women solely on how pretty I find them, I should look at what a woman is like as a whole person!” Teeters on the brink but gets lost in a rock slide.

  16. Just because there’s a difference in what men and women look for in potential partners, it doesn’t mean there should be a double-standard when it comes to sexual misconduct.

    there’s also no reason not to come to that conclusion. it’s almost as if you didn’t think your little just-so story all the way through…

  17. @rutee

    She wants the argument, so she can say she’s not like those extreme (xtreem?) feminists to her libertarian buddies, at this point.

    i think it’s more that she wants the self-gratification of calling herself a feminist, but she doesn’t want to put any effort into it. the faux-reasonable martyr complex shit is just icing on the cake

  18. @jennydevildoll
    “This ALMOST teeters on the brink of an epiphany, i.e. “Hey, maybe instead of just judging women solely on how pretty I find them, I should look at what a woman is like as a whole person!”

    Or maybe women will be judged as a whole person when they rise above their animal instinct of acting they’re in heat. It’s a well known fact that women would rather share a man at the top than be exclusively with a man at the bottom. Just like an animal.

  19. @NWO

    “Yet the hypocrisy of women literally being unable to keep it their pants, advertizing their in heat status, inviting sex seems to escape you. Can’t keep Mrs. Hyde in their pants?”
    ______________
    There is a HUGE difference between wearing sexy clothing and jumping on a guy without his consent (and violating his bodily integrity). Are you saying that if a man is wearing some board shorts at the pool and showing off his chest, that a woman who he does not want to bone (imagine that she is totally unattractive to him) is TOTALLY JUSTIFIED in just jumping on his back and fingering his butt hole!

    Looking a certain way =/= explicit invitation to do stuff to your body

    ———–
    “Indeed. Stop excusing womens behavior. No one made women act like animals in heat.”
    ———–

    I didn’t say there was an “excuse” for those women’s behavior. But do you know what? I wish I could shoot people for blowing smoke in my face, or shouting at 3 in the morning when they come home drunk from the bar, or backing up into my car bumper and driving off without leaving insurance information or generally asking like inconsiderate asshats. It doesn’t make it any less wrong to go out and assault people with bullets.

    A woman could be dragging herself up the street on a dildo horse and moaning loudly like a porn star and there is STILL no excuse for a man, in response to a woman behaving like that, to just jump up and rape her. In fact, I believe that the proper thing to do is to call the police and have her taken away for indecent exposure!!

    And if you REALLY want to have sex with her because of how she looks, chances are, if she’s REALLY “asking for it,” she’ll actually CONSENT to the sex! I never understood why men who become incredibly horny and aroused in the presence of an attractive woman seem to think that it’s so much better to just stick in his penis rather than actually use his mouth to utter the words “Hey, wanna fuck?” at the very least. It’s THREE FUCKING WORDS, man. You’re telling me that YOU think that men are so stupid and idiotic that they are INCAPABLE of asking a woman if she’s looking sexy SPECIFICALLY FOR THE PURPOSE OF FUCKING HIM SPECIFICALLY (and not that guy over there behind you)?

    Last time I checked, it’s not hard to ask people for things. If you have so much fucking trouble asking people for simple requests, then you have no fucking business fucking ANYONE.
    __________
    “Seriously. A magazine didn’t make you do it. YOU made you do it. Keep it in your not painted on pants, rise above your animal instinct. Be accountable.”
    __________

    Last time I checked, looking sexy is not on par with raping and assaulting someone.

  20. @NWO- What is this…I don’t even….

    Maybe if you didn’t act like an idiotic moron, people would actually want to be around you in REAL LIFE (HINT HINT, IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH YOUR MALENESS).

    If a person has a choice between being with an abusive moron like you and living alone with cats and scrapbooks, there’s no fucking contest- scrapbooking with cats will win.

    You’re just pissed that you have no redeeming qualities as a human being and therefore no one wants to put up with you because women are no longer legally slaves to either their fathers or their husbands.

    Sometimes you have to sit there and think to yourself that if everyone else in your life has a problem being around you, it might actually be YOU, not THEM?

  21. CassandraSays

    “It’s a well known fact that women would rather share a man at the top than be exclusively with a man at the bottom.”

    WHY DON’T ANY WOMEN SEEM TO WANT TO BE IN A STEADY RELATIONSHIP WITH MEEEEEEEEE??!!! Truly, it must be because they’re animals in heat, not because you’re just not a very likeable person.

  22. CassandraSays

    Also, someone needs to draw Mrs Hyde, who apparently lives in all of our pants. I guess it’s sort of a timeshare arrangement? Or maybe she’s been cloned?

  23. @NWO:

    How long are you going to keep up this “animals in heat” thing? You do realize that nobody’s trying to counter that specific phrase that you’ve used over and over and over and over and over again because it’s just fucking wrong at every conceivable level?

    You started using it to describe 14-year-olds in bikinis at the beach, and now it’s apparently part of your copy-paste lexicon. Just stop. Seriously. You’re like a four-year-old who’s just learned to make a swear. You’re a fifty year old man, have some god-damn dignity.

  24. @NWO
    So basically women are animals and men are not?

  25. (in before “You dare lecture MEEE about dignity? Harmpherarmpharumph”)

  26. I notice you still haven’t responded to anyone’s comments about men’s pants there, slavey. Come on man, you’re on the internet. The evidence that contradicts you is right at your fingertips.

    Just do an image search for “skinny jeans”. You don’t even have to add the word “men” to find plenty of results that prove you wrong.

  27. “It’s a well known fact that women would rather share a man at the top than be exclusively with a man at the bottom.”

    Ok, I am getting sick of hearing this bullshit from MRAs. “80% of women only sleep with the 20% of men who are alphas; so 80% of men can’t get a woman.” Don’t blame women for the fact that you can’t find a relationship. If 80% of the male population was forced to be celibate, we would be hearing a lot more about it that what you have to say.

    No, women don’t want to share a man at the top. That is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard. Maybe you’re watching too much Nat Geo. The majority of people are in monogomous relationships, and even if those relationships don’t last, people usually move on and find a new relationship. The don’t stew about their rejection unlike they’ve made themselves completely unloveable, by anyone.

    And why is it that men are either Alpha thugs or lowly betas? Has it occured to you that the vast majority of men defy such strict classification? Has it occured to you that most men in this country have a girlfriend or wife, and have absolutely no interest in tolerating your bullshit for even one second?

  28. *The don’t stew about their rejection UNTIL they’ve made themselves completely unloveable, by anyone.

  29. *They

    (Jesus H Christ)

  30. nwoslave:

    I’d ask how you manage to be such a staggeringly horrible person, but given what your username implies I don’t think I really need to.

  31. Some “alpha” kind of guy tried to make me share him with someone else. I promptly left his ass. A bunch of other women I know have had similar experiences. The only ones who stayed tend to have severe emotional/self-esteem issues.

    Do all MRAs only go after severely traumatized/baggage-carrying ladies? Or are they only paying attention to those because they have no chance with actual women with functional backgrounds?

  32. “Do all MRAs only go after severely traumatized/baggage-carrying ladies? Or are they only paying attention to those because they have no chance with actual women with functional backgrounds?”

    Yes. I read a story posted by a self identified alpha on the RooshV forum. When he is on a first date, he pulls into a gas station, hands the girl $40, and tells her to go pump his gas. If she refuses or raises a fuss, he doesn’t pursue a relationship with her.

    I think that pretty much tells you what kind of woman they want.

  33. If she refuses or raises a fuss, he doesn’t pursue a relationship with her.

    Wait, wait, wait. I thought “Game” was supposed to work on all women, all the time? Is this self-identified “alpha” actually admitting that it (Shock! Horror!) DOESN’T WORK?

  34. @apeedlines

    Of course it works all the time. What are you, a game denialist troll? *Roosh likes to throw that term around a lot. It really cracks my shit up :)

  35. @NWO: That’s DR. Hyde to you, bucko.

    @Ruby: I just….you said….I said…..OH NO WAITZ. I am ignoring you.

    *makes note to self* IGNORE RUBY.

    Our household consists of four cats, two humanz, and three dogs. Amazing how the love of animals brought us together…..plus love of TREK!!!!11!!

    And AVENGERS is FUCKING AWESOME!!!!!!!!!

    equal opportunty butt shots

  36. I find hard to ignore Ruby, because it annoys me that she calls herself a feminist and one of us while saying some completely bs sexist stuff. And her profound misconception of “Science”.

    Seconding what ithiliana said on Avengers.

  37. Do all MRAs only go after severely traumatized/baggage-carrying ladies? Or are they only paying attention to those because they have no chance with actual women with functional backgrounds?

    I’d say it’s something abusers do, seek out women who have been abused or are carrying baggage because they think it will be easier to break them. I’m no psychologist, but I gotta think exploiting someone’s emotional wounds works to destroy their independence more often than not.

    It’s showing up in the MRM because there’s an overlap between abusers and MRAs to some extent. Not all abusers are MRAs, not all MRAs are abusers, but some MRAs are abusers and some abusers are MRAs.

    Boy, was that a lot of hedging that’s just going to get ignored in favor of Y U H8 MAILS?!!

    Yes. I read a story posted by a self identified alpha on the RooshV forum. When he is on a first date, he pulls into a gas station, hands the girl $40, and tells her to go pump his gas. If she refuses or raises a fuss, he doesn’t pursue a relationship with her.

    Sublime Buddha on a pogo stick! I bet he whines about who pays for dinner, too.

    And AVENGERS is FUCKING AWESOME!!!!!!!!!

    It is the awesomest.

  38. When he is on a first date, he pulls into a gas station, hands the girl $40, and tells her to go pump his gas. If she refuses or raises a fuss, he doesn’t pursue a relationship with her.

    I would probably pump $10 worth of gas and keep the rest as a tip for being so helpful.

  39. Huh. Pride is this weekend. My husband plans to find SOMEONE to borrow fishnets, rainbows, and mini-skirts from. He’ll probably yoink my sister’s heels too, and depending on weather, I fear a codpiece. He aspires to spend the weekend as fabulously as possible.

    I sure hope NWO doesn’t want to bang HIM for “acting like an animal in heat.”

  40. Silly LBT. Men can’t act like animals in heat for the simple reason that NWO isn’t attracted to men. However, 14 year old girls can and do act like animals in heat because… well…

    *goes and sits quietly in the corner*

  41. RE: kirbywarp

    NWO has obviously never met my husband.

    If I’m trans and NWO doesn’t believe trans people exist, does that mean by wearing hot pants and walking around shirtless, I’d be acting like an animal in heat, or just fucking with him?

  42. I find hard to ignore Ruby, because it annoys me that she calls herself a feminist and one of us while saying some completely bs sexist stuff. And her profound misconception of “Science”.

    You’re not obligated to. I mean, I didn’t and don’t think it’s cool to raise it even when she says innocuous and unrelated things like “Yay kittens!”, but if she says “Oh lol men and women are just SOOOO DIFFERENT” it’s totally open game on her.

  43. Pride is this weekend.

    Just checked on the internet, and it’s in ten days at home. I’ve never seen one.

    He aspires to spend the weekend as fabulously as possible.

    If you don’t me me saying*, and IIRC your husband share the same body. Doesn’t that mean he will dress you up as well? Will he be fronting** the whole time?

    * and if you do mind, if my question is too personal or rude or whatever, please tell me and I’ll back the hell off immediately and stop being curious about it.

    ** correct word?

  44. Rutee:
    I agree, and when someone (Cliff? Ozy? I forgot) said so, I agreed at some point we were going a bit too far. Past that, I felt no obligation. :)

  45. Rutee and Kyrie: I’m not saying everybody or anybody else has to ignore Ruby–I just spent one time too many typing out lengthy stuff that she totally ignored and it got too frustrating when she just kept coming back and doing the same thing over and over and over. It’s for my own internet health!

  46. RE: Kyrie

    We’ll likely switch; we usually do. So I’ll likely be stuck in drag a few times, but that just comes with the territory when you share a body with people of varying wardrobe choices and levels of fabulousness. I much prefer being in drag for my system than at anyone else’s behest.

  47. ithiliana: I didn’t believe you were saying we had to ignore her, just to clarify.

  48. Rutee: , I didn’t and don’t think it’s cool to raise it even when she says innocuous and unrelated things like “Yay kittens!”, but if she says “Oh lol men and women are just SOOOO DIFFERENT” it’s totally open game on her.

    Yep.

    When Meller was (in that brief instant) being reasonable (I forget what it was), I was all for treating him like a decent human being. The same for those brief moments when NWO does the same.

  49. Re: Pecunium

    Wait wait wait… you mean NWO has said things that AREN’T giant–

    oh wait. The KITTENS. I forgot. Never mind, carry on.

  50. LBT: There have been brief moments when he wasn’t railing against the evils of women (mostly talking about, as I recall it) the way that being flown to places to work makes life sort of shitty. Having been in that spot, I can identify, because if one doesn’t have a good set of compatriots to spend time with, being stuck far from home is tedious, at best.

  51. A “higher” standard, eh? Would one say approximately twice the standard? A… double-standard?

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