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Things Redditors actually think: “If you can read this, and we’re alone, I can be legally convicted of rape.”

This was posted to the Men’s Rights subreddit the other day, with the headline: “Saw this today and I suppose that’s where we’re headed.” It’s gotten 556 upvotes, last I checked. (Those are net upvotes: it got 848 upvotes, 292 downvotes.) This is the world that a lot of MRAs, and Redditors in general, think they live in.

A handful of Redditors, like this one, objected to the hysteria:

Notice the downvotes.

Amazingly, one of the few voices of reason to emerge in the whole discussion (besides that downvoted commenter and serveral others) turned out to be none other than Pierce Harlan of the False Rape Society (now called Community of the Wrongly Accused). While not averse to spreading misinformation about rape and false rape accusations himself, he argued in a comment (and in a similarly worded blog post) that this kind of raving hysteria wasn’t helpful, concluding:

The delicate balance that commands us to punish rapists while not punishing the innocent is extremely serious business. We need more sober, more adult, more serious voices to be part of the public discourse. The last thing we need is more Chicken Little hysteria, no matter which side it’s coming from.

I’m guessing the upvotes he got for his comment must have come from visitors from his blog, because up until he posted that comment the few dissenters were mostly being dismissed.

The Men’s Rights subreddit: Waxing hysterical about imaginary oppressions since March 2008.

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Posted on May 12, 2012, in antifeminism, evil women, false accusations, hundreds of upvotes, misogyny, MRA, rape, reddit. Bookmark the permalink. 155 Comments.

  1. Argenti Aertheri

    That combined with him being a bitter bitter person? Possibly? I’d hope it would take more than that to make anyone as hateful as he is.

  2. Goodnight , all!

  3. In a way, T-shirts like this do a public service. When assholes wear these shirts, they’re letting everyone around them know they’re assholes. They don’t even have to open their mouth. The shirt says it all.

    This. Please. All MRAs in my area buy this shirt and wear it every day so I know who to avoid.

    “dead girls don’t say no”

    ooh, I ran into a guy in a bar wearing that shirt, while one of his friends was hitting on my friend (badly). I was drunk enough to go on the offensive, so I just yelled really loudly, “oh, oh, I get it, he’s a necrophiliac! Dude, that’s gross!”

    I wish I could’ve seen this.

    HAHAHHAHAHA OMG Shaenon HAHAHAHAHA

  4. Honestly, I had a young man turn up for a job interview wearing a tshirt with a topless woman on it and a caption somewhat like “may all good times cum in pairs”. wTF, how does anyone think wearing crap like that is a positive?

  5. Shaenon, me thinks me lurves you!

  6. AbsintheDexterous

    wTF, how does anyone think wearing crap like that is a positive?

    If he regularly wears that shirt to job interviews, I bet he complains about how he can’t get a job. I mean, how many places of employment would hire someone who would wear that shirt to an interview? I can’t imagine that there would be that many.

    I’m also sure the “dead girls” guy complains about not meeting women. I can just imagine him bitching about all those “stuck up bitches who won’t speak to me” and getting mad that women have no sense of humor.

    And the above shirt, had I just seen it on a guy without the context of this post, would baffle me. I’d have to sit and try to make sense of it, because it just doesn’t really make sense. I really didn’t get “I could get falsely accused” from it – more along the lines of “if we’re alone, you better get away from me, because I will rape you”, which is actually a PSA to avoid the guy who wears it.

    People who wear shirts like that always think they’re being “edgy”, when really they’re advertising the fact that they are giant flaming assholes.

  7. argenti: The thing about NWOs claims of invention is the details aren’t quite credible. He claims to have designed, from scratch, several different sorts of automation equipment.

    Once he said he had designed a machine to make it possible for an automaker to assay the alloy purities (of some sort) in their steel.

    I’ve been a machinist. Yes, a large scale manufacturer would want to know if it’s supplier were failing to deliver, but that’s not something which gets done routinely, and checking alloy composition is something which gets done by an assay shop, or in smelting.

    It was figured out a long time ago. It’s possible he did some process improvement, but it’s not likely he “invented” it, nor that, all by himself, he designed something all that radical.

  8. And in the eyes of the law, being able to discern between right and wrong is part of intent?

    So, someone who is schizophrenic would need to show they were experiencing a major break, right? I’ve had a few schizophrenic friends, some of whom experienced auditory hallucinations on a regular basis. Generally, it didn’t seem to impair their ability to distinguish right from wrong so long as it was a relatively mild day. One friend would sometimes withdraw for a few days because his family, as he refered to the voices, were louder than usual and he didn’t want to be seen like that.

  9. If he regularly wears that shirt to job interviews, I bet he complains about how he can’t get a job. I mean, how many places of employment would hire someone who would wear that shirt to an interview? I can’t imagine that there would be that many.

    Right? I wouldn’t be surprised if he blames his lack of a job on affirmative action. I’ve seen so many men wander into job interviews in street clothes and I’m thinking, “Do you know what you’re here to accomplish today?” Do they really feel that entitled to whatever they ask for that they think they don’t need to do anything but show up as a man to get it?

    So anyways, I’m gonna start selling tshirts that say “sperm jacker” on them so that we can avoid MRAs in public. Anyone want one?

  10. Magpie:

    I was thinking of Platypus electrolocation

    IRTA “electrolactation”. Turn up the juice to get more milk!

    Magpie:

    Honestly, I feel sorry for bulls. The cows get a social life, with each other and the calves. The bulls live in a paddock with other bulls, keeping as far away from each other as they can, and only get with the cows briefly once a year

    Sound’s like AntZ’s idea of paradise.

  11. Argenti Aertheri

    Pecunium, thanks for the info, I was rather doubtful he’d really invented anything special.

    Pillowinhell, under M’Naghten yes, you need to not know what you are doing is wrong to be deemed insane — not all of the US uses it though and IANAL. And honestly, NGRI pleas tend to get the person a whole lot longer stay in a locked ward than just pleading guilty would. (This is wtf the nearly-a-lawyer friend is interning doing, he’s got client’s who’ve been on the psych ward for 25+ years for simple assault, which a 5 year prison term.) It’s a complete mess in other words >.<

  12. “(Also, superawesometalented musicians? Emilie Autumn)”

    I definitely just fangirl crapped my pants. I’m old enough to remember Bonnie Tyme Pyrate xD

  13. Kendra, the bionic mommy

    So anyways, I’m gonna start selling tshirts that say “sperm jacker” on them so that we can avoid MRAs in public. Anyone want one?

    I don’t know if a “sperm jacker” t-shirt would repel MRA’s or attract them. It would have to have a disclaimer “This shirt is just a joke. Do not offer me free sperm”.

  14. Argenti Aertheri

    GingerSnaps — squee! *rat claws* I discovered her right around when the book came out, so Bonnie Tyme Pyrate is but an old school reference to me unfortunately. Took my mother to her concert a couple months ago and my mother enjoyed it, spreading the plague to my mother, w00t!

  15. But it’s not free sperm. It’s sperm that I’ve stolen to get saddled with a baby and a man that I don’t want! Because I’m just DYING to trap poor, unsuspecting men in my web of child support and joint custody. MUAH HA HA!

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