New Reddit theory: Girls develop early in order to entrap guys and send them to prison
So someone on Reddit posted a video showing time-lapse video of a girl from infanthood to 12 years old. Naturally, Redditors responded with creepy pedophilia jokes, and one Redditor (speaking for many, judging by the numerous upvotes) took the opportunity to complain about just how hard it is for dudes to not have sex with underage girls. Apparently these girls deliberately develop earlier than boys as part of an elaborate plot to entrap guys and send them to jail.
Thanks to ShitRedditSays for pointing me to this latest bit of egregious Redditry.
Posted on April 23, 2012, in creepy, dozens of upvotes, men who should not ever be with women ever, misogyny, oppressed men, pedophiles oh sorry ephebophiles, reddit. Bookmark the permalink. 693 Comments.
And if they were spouting the bucketloads of misogyny that your little MRA buddies do, I’m sure Dave would. Now go away, you bore me.
But hellkell, they’re spouting bucketloads of misandry!
Oh that’s right, misogyny=bad but misandry=good. Got it.
@Nameless Troll: If YOU want a blog to mock misandry (by radfems or anybody else, not that I actually agree that misandry is in any way equivalent to misogyny, but you do), then why not set up a blog?
Mocking Misandry!
This blog is for Mocking Misogyny.
You know, you sexists come up with the damndest claims about what feminists should do in the name of ‘equality” which is damn funny when you don’t seem to understand or support equality in any sense of the word.
Misandry is not a thing. Not even fucking close in terms of the long-running systemic issues that keep misogyny alive and well, up to and including assholes like you.
it really galls you that nobody else recognizes how totally super smart you think you are doesnt it.
grow up.
Sharculese, it’s like Br__n claimig on Feministe that he was “just joking” over here.
seriously msn, if you really need a space to whine about how manboobz doesn’t talk about the things you want to talk about, i hear paul elam will pity hire anyone with a dumb irrational grudge against david.
Yeah. Go do that.
If you stretch the Dworkin and Solanas quotes out enough you’ll have material for weeks of posts!
Nameless One, if you you’re seriously saying that “I want this, so I’ll just take it if can get away with it.” doesn’t just imply, but require a massive sense of entitlement, you’re either bullshitting or you don’t know what words mean.
shorter msn: i have no dignity and i must equivocate
@Cliff Pervocracy: My bad.
Ha ha, did Nameless seriously trot out the PMS line? There’s just no creativity in these trolls today!
I like that he threatened to troll us if we don’t take him seriously. XD
as if he had not been trolling this entire time…
Ha ha, did Nameless seriously trot out the PMS line? There’s just no creativity in these trolls today!
there is like zero doubt in my mind based on a bunch of his past comments that msn is in high school,
At Nameless, who has graced us with his presence yet again:
He is totally not trolling:
Oh wait
Well actually he is but he just has to do it because we won’t listen to his super intelligent ideas which no one has thought of before!! Because he is smart you see he needs to troll us.
Massive blockquote fail! And I actually typed “at” instead of @, which is frikkin’ weird. Attempt #2, sorry for the double post:
@Nameless, who has graced us with his presence yet again:
I’ve never been raped and I’m not in any way suggesting that my experience is the equivalent of rape, but my ex used to play with my breasts in annoying and sometimes painful ways, even after I told him to stop. It sure seemed like it was because he felt entitled to do what he wanted with my body, especially since he said things like, and I quote, “I’m your boyfriend, so they’re my boobs to do whatever I want with.” But I guess it wasn’t entitlement at all? Since entitlement doesn’t even exist, somehow?
I get the distinct — and absurd — impression that you think feminists will agree with your support for the abuse of boys. If you’re looking for a community of people who believe that girls are delicate flowers that need protecting from lecherous men, but boys LOVE sex and if they can have sex with a “hot teacher” or something they’re lucky, you need to move the fuck on.
anddddd he admits to being ok with some forms of child abuse
You disgust me.
Misandry does exist, but it’s usually wielded by the patriarchy. Assuming all men want to have sex with underage girls and will take advantage of them, given half a chance, IS misandry. Loathing the handful of men out there who are entitled, whining fucks for projecting their own personal preferences onto the entire male gender is not misandry. It’s deserved loathing directed at entitled, whining fucks.
I can’t help but wonder how they figure this plays out reversed. Are women just as likely to try to take advantage of underage boys who might just happen to look 19? Yeah, yeah, I know, we don’t have DUDE HORMONES which are apparently the worst things ever, ladeez don’t like sex so of course most of us don’t have the overwhelming urge to seduce little boys, and besides, it’s only ok when men do it, because, what are you, a misandrist or something? Don’t you know that DUDE HORMONES are so much worse than lady hormones?
Oh, I see, troll did address that, my bad. For realzies dude, this is not the place you’re going to find people rooting for of age ladies to take advantage of underage boys. Because, wait for it, we don’t actually hate men.
Ah yes, there are only two possible modes of existence: offensive or boring.
Shaenon, agreed. Men and women aren’t so different that we don’t have anything to talk about. My husband and I share many interests, so we always have something to discuss. We talk each other’s ears off sometimes. LOL.
Same idea as Nameless, but expressed much more eloquently by JtO:
/sarcasm
Sooo does that mean you didn’t marry your husband for money/power? and he didn’t marry you for your looks? You married him because you share interests and like talking him like most normal people do in their relationship?
Oh, come on, Jumbo. That would make her a total hypocrite. Not our Ruby!
For the record, I never endorsed knowingly having sex with minors. I don’t think that’s a good thing. I’m just saying, it’s a gray area because it’s not always a crime that is knowingly committed. I’ve seen tons of 17 year olds that look like twentysomethings. It happened to my friend once, he met someone at a bar, they were into each other, consensual sex, etc., and then she revealed her age. She didn’t do anything and as far as I know everything is amicable, but it really bugged me how she now essentially has him by the balls. She could send him to jail at any time, simply because she happened to be one year below the age limit.
There’s a big difference between pedophiles and ephebephiles. Come on people.
OMNOM, I really don’t care whether a child is boy or girl, underage sex with them is wrong. I’m not going to condone boys being exploited this way anymore than I would girls. And like everyone else here, I don’t care what gender the perp is either, they deserve whatever punishment the law demands.
And why are radfems ugly, but you don’t make any comment on the physical appearance of MGTOW? Sexist, much?
I’m sure he has a good reason for it. I understand he has a high IQ.
No sympathy here Smoker. As an adult, it is the adults responsibility to ensure that the partners we sleep with are of age to consent BEFORE we sleep with them.
@smoker
I won’t deny that appearance can be deceiving but a teen “having him by the balls”? Really?
Do you think there is a bunch of minors out there looking to seduce older men and then throw them in jail for the fun of it? Have you met anyone under the age of 18 or do you get your info from mra sites on how teens act?
Kavette —
I thought the video was charming. But I was appalled by the number of creepy comments in the Reddit thread, and the 60+ upvotes that the comment I quoted got. The girl was only 12, at her oldest in the video. I would really hope that any discussion of the video by adults would contain ZERO pervy/pedo remarks and jokes. I don’t think I misrepresented the discussion.
—
If there are any MGTOWers here pondering the “what island should we go to,” I would highly recommend this book.
Uninhabited Ocean Islands
Oh, these islands won’t necessarily be pleasant to live on. As the author says:
Also, many of them are close to Antarctica, and very windy. Or have only “brackish water” to drink. And their guano deposits have in many cases long ago been worked out, so no guano left over for you guys!
I have my own copy of the book. As someone who used to fantasize about having my own island country (when I was 12), it’s a useful reminder of the benefits of civilization,
Anyway, these islands may suck, but they absolutely will be free of ladies.
Also, FWIW, MSN is posting from an IP address on the other side of the country from MRAL. (And not from any weird “forest in Germany” IPs.)
Anyway, they’re both obnoxious but in pretty different ways. (expect for the “look at me, I’m so smart”)
It’s always happening to a friend, like a really shitty urban legend.
Hey, I’ll even throw in the book my dad has about how to live on a small atoll, by a dude who took his wife off to one and lived there for like a decade! Although you wouldn’t have a wife.
I really do wonder how the “why don’t you mock misandry?” trolls get through life. Do they rent Star Wars and complain that William Shatner isn’t in it? Do they write letters to the author of the Hunger Games explaining that it would be so much better if she explained what Hogwarts was doing the whole time? Do they go to a cupcake store and demand equal time for pie?
Smoker, I’m not gonna blame your friend… If you meet someone at a bar it’s reasonable to expect that they’re of legal drinking age. But how is it that she “has him by the balls”? Okay, there ARE crazy people out there, but normal people don’t enjoy going through a rape trial with all that it entails (the inevitable victim-blaming etc). And even if the girl for some strange reason just dreamed about being at the center of attention at a rape trial, you need some kind of evidence to send people to jail. People aren’t put in jail just because somebody goes to the police and report a crime.
@hellkell
pretty much
I mean it’s so perfect for him to use. A 17 year old sneaked into a bar and tricked his friend into thinking she was older than she was. Then his friend slept with her and for some reason she decided to tell him she was underage afterwards. Not too unlikely just very convenient. (though I can’t figure out why she would tell him she was underage after they slept together. Teens girls just love threatening older men with false rape accusation amiright?)
Yet here you are commenting on a post about redditors (of unknown ages, I suppose) talking about a girl they KNOW is 12 in a sexual manner. Is that a “gray area”? How about the many stories that commenters here have related, where they were aprroached by a much older man, they told the man that they were 14 or so, and the man continued to harrass them. Is that a “gray area”?
In these “gray area” cases you’re talking about, what you you think should happen? Do you think it should be legal for an adult to have sex with a minor, as long as the adult didn’t know to a certainty how old the minor was? Would that be a good result for everyone?
jumbofish, my husband and I met at work. I saw that he had a good job and was responsible, therefore would be a good provider. Had he been unemployed living in his parents’ basement, I probably wouldn’t have dated him.
I keep forgetting to say the age of consent is not 18 years old in all states in the US (I thought you said you were in the US so correct me if I am wrong). In fact if I remember right the majority of the states have age’s of consent below 18 (like 16/17 mostly).
HAAHAHAHAAHA
I am sure your husband would appreciate hearing you say that. XD
I was almost sure a big part of feminism was that men are not the automatic providers and women should be able to provide for themselves if they want. I don’t remember hearing that women are just naturally attracted to men so they can provide for them because women can’t really provide for themselves.
Well, her husband will divorce her once she is no longer at peak sexual attractiveness, so there is that.
Wait unless you are one of those “feminists” who assure people that men and women are equal in their own opposite way. Like women are equal because women work by taking care of children while men work by providing for the whole family. The same people who assert this is the natural order of things.
Actually that would make a lot of sense if ruby was.
lol how could I forget
Her husband could probably “afford” more attractive women after she gets old. Right ruby?
is there like a special school where they teach you how to make life this cold, joyless, and uninteresting?
Ruby- really? I started dating my spousal unit because he was smart and kind and funny as hell. His abilities as a provider didn’t enter into it and I would regard it as a courtesy if you stopped trying to say your beliefs trump other people’s lives.
Once were together we stayed together even during periods of under-employment, disability and changing careers. I guess we’re doing it wrong, which is a real blow to me after being with this guy for more than 20 years.
I hate those “feminists”*, possibly more than I despise MRAs**. So often they’re women in power, and they owe it to feminism, and yet they want to reduce me to my uterus and my supposed femininity. Fuck you all, fakminists.
*I’m in general all for people choosing their all label, eg I won’t call a misogynist a MRA unless he identifies himself that way, or maybe has huge ties with prominent MRAs, same thing for feminists, I don’t want to kick out of the “club” those I consider bad feminists (racists, transphobics, classicists, ableists) I just want them to be better feminists. But sexist feminists? That make no more sense that claiming I’m a fish.
**which is not completely illogical, since they’re less extreme but more pervasive and much more numerous.
All right, now I get it, Ruby is just trying to project her personnality on EVERY SINGLE woman. Girls, don’t do that.
“spousal unit” 0_o That’s the first time I hear such an expression.
Btw Ruby, Need to know makes me wonder: what would happen if your husband was suddenly loosing his capacity to provide: if he was fired and couldn’t find another job, or got a disability that prevented him to be a provider. What then?
Ruby’s whole provider thing also only makes sense if said couple wants kids. I mean that is her thing right? A woman wants a rich dude to provide for her and her kids?
It’s funny that your evopsych explanation for the world sure does exclude a lot of people.
Yeah, Ruby, I met my husband at work, too, but his ability to be a provider didn’t really factor into it. I made more than he did at the time.
Damn, Ruby really is the female Br__n.
Jumbo you’re right. Me and Mr. HK don’t want kids, so I guess in Rubyland, why bother, right?
that’s not fair. ruby does actually believe in things. some of them are petty, childish things, but she still has beliefs. that puts her a few steps over b____n
Until I got to the number, this was giving me a VERY different mental image than was originally intended. I think I’ve seen too many horror movies…
Kyrie: Classicists make bad feminists? (clutches Plato to zir heart)
Ruby: I’m dating three unemployed people, at least one of whom is considering living in his parents’ basement. Am I ugly, or am I making up my attraction to them? Or because I’m nonbinary (but with tits!) am I allowed to date people because of their personalities?
Great. So you’re a shitty, mercenary human being. Why am I not surprised?
<blockquote.Addendum: Maybe I’m too reasonable and moderate for someone on this blog with a dissenting opinion….
Uo HO HO HO HO HO HO HO HO HO
I just want to point out that I’m fuuuugly and my boyfriend has a pretty nice job.
…Also, he got a promotion earlier this year, and yet somehow I didn’t get prettier and he didn’t dump me. Magic.
Aww you’re not fugly silly Cliff!
ozy:
*check word reference
*hides under her desk in shame
what’s the word, classist? Anyway, if I remember well, Plato was hardly a feminist… (not saying he didn’t have good ideas, just not so much on women)
For the record, I never endorsed knowingly having sex with minors.
Filed under “disclaimers you shouldn’t need to make.”
It’s always happening to a friend, like a really shitty urban legend.
MRAs should take a leaf out of drug message boards’ books and use SWIM.
Snowy – I don’t feel bad about my looks, but except that I’m young and white, they’re very far from The Official Standard. And you can’t believe in a “money is exchanged for prettiness” scheme unless you believe prettiness can be measured as objectively as money can.
Gee, wonder what Ruby makes of me? I lived commonlaw for three years with a guy I met at work. He was living in his friends basement, broke. Well, we moived in together even though I was making far more than he did, and when his job got really shitty and caused him to have a breakdown I told him to quit. He stayed home and cleaned house and I went to work.
We broke up because he lost interest in the relationship, not because hypergamy.
Currently, beloved makes far more than I do, but he also has more expenses and two daughters to support. Which means that really we break even in terms of free cash. Sorry, but I aint kicking him outta my bed over something as stupid as money.
Cliff! What a shockingly uneducated thing to say! Of course prettiness has been objectively codified! Just read Heartistes post on how to rate women!
What’s that you say? Hahahaha? Well yeah, most people don’t continue to think that way decades past thirteen.
Kyrie- spousal unit made its way into my speech via looking for a way to indicate no assumptions were being made without having to keep saying “husband and/or wife, as appropriate” when talking to a very diverse and accepting community with some non-standard relationship structures.
I just couldn’t resist trotting it out when talking to Ruby about her oddly transactional view of marriage.
I never got the whole “good provider” thing. Nobody’s a more reliable provider than yourself.
Just because women are attracted to men who make good providers, it doesn’t mean we don’t take other characteristics into consideration. My husband is the nicest guy I know, and I have a thing for nice guys. After the initial attraction comes bonding. It’s why couples stay together through thick and thin. BTW, my husband knows his ability to provide was essential.
Honestly people, calm down.
The way you know your ability to be pretty is essential? That sounds like a very sad way to go through life. That’s just my opinion though. And maybe you would be happier commenting somewhere else, where other people were more calm. Since everyone here is so un-calm.
Anything but admit the truth that you’re the only one here who’s sexually attracted to wealth.
I mean, the only thing, at this point, keeping me from saying “Sorry, I was too busy fucking my girlfriend, run that back for me” is that she’s in Denmark. You’re an idiot.
Yeah, sorry Ruby, but my dating history clearly demonstrates a preference for looks rather than wealth/provider ability. At some point you’re going to have to admit that even though this theory appeals to you because it’s true for you, that doesn’t make it true for all women.
Wimminz be so hysterical! Except for special snowflake Ruby, who can be counted on to keep a level head and not take things personally.
Except, there was nothing to take personally, because none of us resemble the women she keeps going on about.