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New Reddit theory: Girls develop early in order to entrap guys and send them to prison

So someone on Reddit posted a video showing time-lapse video of a girl from infanthood to 12 years old. Naturally, Redditors responded with creepy pedophilia jokes, and one Redditor (speaking for many, judging by the numerous upvotes) took the opportunity to complain about just how hard it is for dudes to not have sex with underage girls. Apparently these girls deliberately develop earlier than boys as part of an elaborate plot to entrap guys and send them to jail.

Thanks to ShitRedditSays for pointing me to this latest bit of egregious Redditry.

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Posted on April 23, 2012, in creepy, dozens of upvotes, men who should not ever be with women ever, misogyny, oppressed men, pedophiles oh sorry ephebophiles, reddit. Bookmark the permalink. 693 Comments.

  1. Hey, it’s okay, this member of the atheist club is happy with you not being in it, jerkface.

  2. and since I hate that place I commented.

    so you admit you came out of the woodwork just to whine about some place you hate XD

  3. Yeah, I guess I did mention Richard Dawkins offhandedly, once, in connection with a post he made that I thought the Pharyngulites sort of overreacted to.

    You got me, I’m all about defending the old white dudes!

  4. Also, FTR, that I don’t consider the jackass’ opinion relevant does not mean that I ignored you, Kladle. I just didn’t really have a response beyond “A lot of folks do actually find plenty of relief there, including me”. It’s not good that people fuck up so regularly and obviously on ableism, and while I was there I tried to help at least a little tiny bit.

    That’s ok, you responded some. I would say more but I don’t want to encourage the Eurotroll. At least you and Xanthe acknowledged some of the problems with the place.

  5. Seriously though, that is what the tone argument is about, more than anything else. Defending the status quo. Oh I realize you think that making a tweak to include atheist dudes is the most radical thing ever, and totally makes you “edgy” and “wild”, but it is more boring and mild compared to actual change in the status quo.

  6. Hi MRAL.

    BTW, I passed my quals.

  7. No, not really, because I despise the atheist community and want no part of it

    You know, I’m not really sure what you’re lying about in its entirety, because there’s a lot of good options, but I’m going to bet you’re not really an atheist. Complaining about how atheism is ‘driving people off’ while you as an atheist proudly support driving people off

    (See:

    I would imagine he’s got more important things to worry about than a bunch of butthurt internet people.

    I’m pretty sure you can be firm about your social justice crap

    )
    Sets off concern troll radars like whoa. Especially now that you’re switching gears on us again.

    I saw your mention of Pharyngula and realized it was going to pass without comment, and since I hate that place I commented.

    But you can let so many misogynist comments slide; you can even support them. Right up until someone else points out you fucked up in two different ways, anyway. Come now, are you really going to try this?

    Hi MRAL.

    Hm, I think you’re right.

    BTW, I passed my quals.

    \o/

  8. Seriously though, that is what the tone argument is about, more than anything else. Defending the status quo. Oh I realize you think that making a tweak to include atheist dudes is the most radical thing ever, and totally makes you “edgy” and “wild”, but it is more boring and mild compared to actual change in the status quo.

    Again, what the fuck are you talking about?

  9. Again, what the fuck are you talking about?

    You.

  10. My my tone troll sure is taking a not so nice tone with us. *snerk*

  11. I’m not really sure what you’re lying about in its entirety, because there’s a lot of good options, but I’m going to bet you’re not really an atheist. Complaining about how atheism is ‘driving people off’ while you as an atheist proudly support driving people off

    I’m an atheist, not someone who really stakes a lot on it or gets involved in any community. I’m not “complaining” per se, I don’t really care. I just find Pharyngula obnoxious, and oh by the way, it’s not doing atheism any favors in the PR department. But I don’t really care about that, I mostly just find it obnoxious.

    But you can let so many misogynist comments slide; you can even support them.

    Yeah, I guess. Except for the supporting them part. Again, I don’t have to justify myself to you. If thinking of me as a misogynist will help you sleep tonight, go for it.

    Hi MRAL.

    Wrong, again.

  12. [i]t’s not doing atheism any favors in the PR department.

    Well, if it upsets weak tea, pallid little whiners like you, then it’s doing something right in my book.

  13. I’m not “complaining” per se, I don’t really care

    You are not a very good liar. Had you actually not cared, at all, you’d have left (Or at least, moved onto other threads). You’re not a regular (Well, your persona isn’t, as we are aware it’s you), so checking back on a thread is… quite anomalous if you don’t actually care.

    But I don’t really care about that

    Oh, I imagine you don’t care about the atheist PR Department; last I checked, you were busy making half-assed arguments for agnosticism. As I said, concern trolling.

    Yeah, I guess. Except for the supporting them part

    You’ve already done it. I think you know this. Even if you aren’t actually our recurring waste of space, you pretty specifically denigrated opposition to misogyny, as if their complaint weren’t valid.. And again, even if you are not our recurring pimple, I doubt this is the first time that you have supported misogyny above and beyond the call that is normal for our society.

    Wrong, again.

    No, no, I don’t think so. Don’t you have homework? I am afraid I’m not as good at reading style as some of the other regulars, good catch VoIP

  14. Rutee, you’re one to talk- you don’t care about “the jackass'” opinion, but will reply with multiple essays posthaste. What can I say, arguing on the Internet is addicting. Anyway, I do sort of enjoy talking shit about Pharyngula, so I care about that.

  15. See, here’s the thing. If you don’t like a particular atheist blog, and you’re not determined to recruit everyone to atheism*, then if you don’t like that blog and don’t really care that much about it, you just ignore it. Investing this much time and energy in screaming about how nasty the commenters there are on another blog indicates that you do in fact care, for whatever reason.

    There are feminist blogs that I never read or comment on because I don’t like the blogger, or the commenters. It’s a big internet – no matter what your interest is, you can usually find a blog that covers it that’s more to your liking, so to obsess over that one and it’s incivility
    is…odd.

    * As far as I know, we are not actively recruiting at present, because that would be creepy.

  16. I do sort of enjoy talking shit about Pharyngula, so I care about that.

    You are posting on a site about mocking misogyny in the men’s rights movement…just to complain about some atheist site….

    Banhammer David?

  17. Rutee, you’re one to talk- you don’t care about “the jackass’” opinion, but will reply

    You’re not the only person here, and I am aware of the limitations of incivillity; you’re not the audience, mediocrity. You’re my stage prop.

  18. At least you and Xanthe acknowledged some of the problems with the place

    If I thought it was perfect for everyone, I would rather unreservedly be recruiting everyone to it.

    That said, ignoring MRAL (Really folks, it is), I really don’t think a safe space can exist if the requisite is “Is extraordinarily good at all forms of -ism”. I have literally not seen a single place without regular fail on at least one axis or another. C’est la Vie; provided we all work at it, next generation will likely be better.

  19. I mean, a perfect example here would be a feminist blogger called Heart. I do not like her, and I do not like the commenters she attracts. I solve this problem by not reading or commenting on her blog. See how easy that is?

  20. (And yeah, MRAL has been busy lately. When he sent me a private message on Jezebel that was a perfect example of his unfortunate issue with not being willing to accept boundaries, in my opinion.)

  21. @cassandra
    oh dear. Is it ok if I ask what it was about?

  22. I don’t like pandagon for various reasons and I am not a fan of marcotte but I don’t complain about her/her site whenever she is mentioned. I can think of a million other examples of websites I don’t like but don’t randomly complain about when they are mentioned. It’s not that hard to do. Practice self restraint dude.

  23. @ Jumbo

    Eh, it was his usual stuff about creep being a slur against men, how I’m a privileged prefect, etc. He also repeated the “I have a visible disability but I won’t tell you what it is because it’s none of your business, so there” stuff. Maybe he’s reached the point in his trolling career where he can’t even remember which lies he told to which group of people any more.

  24. Thanks, Rutee. Aaaand…I got funding for research travel this summer. My milkshake now, officially, brings all the history majors to the yard.

    (And yeah, MRAL has been busy lately. When he sent me a private message on Jezebel that was a perfect example of his unfortunate issue with not being willing to accept boundaries, in my opinion.

    ಠ_ಠ

  25. You’re not the only person here, and I am aware of the limitations of incivillity; you’re not the audience, mediocrity. You’re my stage prop.

    Okay, and I just enjoy bashing Pharyngula, so I guess we’re both justified. I got a bit carried away, but such is the Internet.

    And I got a “mediocrity”! Man, this feels like Pharyngula away from Pharyngula.

    But I’ll withdraw, so if it makes you feel any better, think of yourself as the victor. Or at least the stubborn ass who always has to get the last word.

    (And seriously, people- not MRAL).

  26. how I’m a privileged prefect, etc.,/blockquote>
    Most prefects are privileged, it comes with the office.

  27. Anyway, I do sort of enjoy talking shit about Pharyngula, so I care about that.

    Okay, so here’s the deal, you namby-pamby cowardly cutlet. Go and post something along these lines over in the shark pit, and come back here with a link to your comment. (This would also establish whether you’re the recurring waste of oxygen known as MRAL, since as “matriarchy” he received the blunt end of the Squidly Overlord’s ban hammer at Pharyngula.)

  28. But I’ll withdraw, so if it makes you feel any better, think of yourself as the victor. Or at least the stubborn ass who always has to get the last word.

    flounce two!

  29. Also, I can see bringing up issues with a particular blogger/blog if it’s thematically related to the discussion at hand. For example, Hugo attempting to kill his ex and/or fucking his students is relevant to a lot of conversations, and the fact that Heart is a raging transphobe is relevant to discussions of transphobia in feminism. But I feel no need to mention Heart’s issues with trans people in, say, a blog discussion about Reddit’s pedophilia problem, because it’s just not relevant and it would be a weird non-sequitor.

  30. But I feel no need to mention Heart’s issues with trans people in, say, a blog discussion about Reddit’s pedophilia problem, because it’s just not relevant and it would be a weird non-sequitor.

    Not if you’re super-duper upset about the blog in question, so very very upset that you might be forced (forced, I tell you!) to do something terrible, you’re so angry. Then you bring it up every chance you get.

  31. Not like we know anyone who argues like that.

  32. Speaking of people who’re forced! to do things that they don’t want to! but people make them!, we haven’t heard from Meller for a while.

  33. He can’t even keep his lies straight on one sock; I don’t think he’s capable of keeping them all straight anymore XD

    And I got a “mediocrity”! Man, this feels like Pharyngula away from Pharyngula.

    No no, stealing flourishes from RPGs is not exactly uniquely mine, but is most certainly not a pharyngula trait. Really now, just because they also insulted you, MRAL (Hint: the game is up) does not mean every insult is ‘like pharyngula’. This is why you are a shitty writer.

    Not if you’re super-duper upset about the blog in question, so very very upset that you might be forced (forced, I tell you!) to do something terrible, you’re so angry. Then you bring it up every chance you get.

    Or keep going back to it no matter how many times you’ve been banned XD

  34. I’m not really a reader of Pharyngula (they rarely cover topics that I’m interested in), but I wish other blogs were as firm with the banhammer as they are. Apart from anything else, it’s awesome because it makes people like our friend here so hilariously pissy.

  35. Let me get this straight–MRAL came here to bitch about Pharyngula because he’s butthurt that the Horde chewed him to pieces. Goddamn, that is pathetic.

  36. “Goddamn, that is pathetic.”

    And also hilarious.

  37. Eurotrash: A real “safe space” should at least endeavor to make the discussion something approaching civil.

    Horseshit.

    Ok, perhaps not. It depends on what you mean by civil. If you mean no one says anything harsh, nope. I don’t have to be accepting of intolerant assholes.

    I have to tolerate their existence. I don’t have to make them feel comfortable. I don’t have any incumbent duty to make them feel “safe”, if that makes the targets of their intolerance feel threatened.

    This is the same issue BASTA is trying to pretend we are being hypocrites about. He thinks that adding a step to the feeding of men is just the same as women being deprived of food.

    It’s not. If he could show that men were starving, he would have a better case, but he can’t, and he doesn’t.

    You are in the same place. Some rude motherfuckers who are being nasty to vulnerable people are being treated to harsh judgements of their behavior. I care. I care more for the people they are targetting than I do for their privilege to be rude in my presence.

    We’ve got an “illiterate”! I was waiting for that. Isn’t that classist, by the way?

    C for effort, F for comprehension. It’s not classist. It’s evaluational. Rutee either thinks you weren’t paying attention, or completely failed to understand. It’s an interesting question which of those judgements is the more flattering to you.

    In either case your rejoinder demontrates (yet again) that you fundamentally fail to understand her criticisms of your analysis.

    The interesting question; perhaps the only relevant question is:

    Why are you complaining about it here?

    Do you think making an irrelevant snit here is going to change the culture there?

    I’d have to say that coming to one party, so that you can bitch about how some other party is full of assholes and rude people, is incivil.*

    It’s pointless too. It will not win you friends. Even people who may agree with you about Pharyngula aren’t going to be impressed with your, moderately hypocritical, rants here. People who might agree with you, were they familiar with Pharyngula, are; perhaps, going to more sympathetic, if they head that way, because you have been a dick.

    It shows a lack of wisdom, to so poorly choose both the battle, and the battleground.

    *You also seem to have a blind spot, or a ranking system for what passes as a lack of civility; that or you think ,I would imagine he’s got more important things to worry about than a bunch of butthurt internet people.” is a perfectly reasonable description of people who have a complaint about someone else failure to correct an asinine, and offensive, statement. Coupled to this No, not really, because I despise the atheist community and want no part of it. I could give a fuck about your inclusiveness; I have to say that the, “civility” you pretend to want is just a false flag you wave so you can get a wedge in to complain about how the things you don’t like seeing criticised (sexism, apparently) should be ignored in the interest of a group you despise doing something you don’t care about.

    You are a liar, and a hypocrite, and a fool. As well as being an asshole.

  38. Eurotrash: (whom I am inclined to think is MRAL; there are some turns of phrase, and it’s certainly true that he was roughly handled there, though not out of keeping with the culture of the place, and in some ways more gently than many If you are’t MRAL… Well it’s something that you manage to sound so much like him, and ride at least one of his hobby-horeses).

    I’m an atheist, not someone who really stakes a lot on it or gets involved in any community. I’m not “complaining” per se,

    No, you aren’t complaining, “per se”, you are complaining outright.

  39. Eurotrash: If you are MRAL this is a really weak effort; because you don’t really understand what you are trying to pull off, and the arugments are pathetic.

    If you aren’t, well that makes it worse, because you aren’t posing, and that’s really how well you think.

  40. @Eurotroll: I’m not “complaining” per se, I don’t really care. I just find Pharyngula obnoxious, and oh by the way, it’s not doing atheism any favors in the PR department. But I don’t really care about that,

    Not complaining?

    Don’t really care?

    If I weren’t all lazy and about to go see a pirates movie, I’d count just how many words you’ve spewed around in your SO NOT COMPLAINING AND SO DON’T CARE posts.

    Dude, you do care for whatever reason, and you sure as hell the fuck are complaining, and not even on the blog, but on another blog. You commented ONLY because somebody here mentioned the blog in passing.

    Caring. Complaining.

    That’s you and pretending otherwise isn’t even faintly convincing or amusing.

    Troll better. We have high standards around here.

  41. Ok, perhaps not. It depends on what you mean by civil. If you mean no one says anything harsh, nope. I don’t have to be accepting of intolerant assholes.

    You’re right, you don’t have to be accepting of assholes. You don’t have to be accepting of anyone. And likewise I’m free to consider you the biggest asshole of all.

    Now, it’s not that I think assholery is always unwarranted; but you seem to want to lay down some kind of fundamental law of social interaction to the effect that tone is (or should be) irrelevant, and any level of vitriol is acceptable over even the slightest disagreement.

    You don’t get to do that.

    I mean, I suppose you do, in the sense that you can think whatever you want, but I would consider you sort of an idiot. For me, I’m not so arrogant as to make a “rule” one way or the other; it depends on the situation. For instance, I doubt many people would have a problem with rudeness toward a neo-Nazi, even if s/he was as polite as could be.

    Whether abrasiveness is warranted in a given situation… that’s something I get to decide. For myself, at least. And in my opinion, based on a few years of reading the comments, Pharyngula’s assholery is generally unwarranted. They’re obnoxious and unpleasant, and I suppose it might be fun to be on the side of the abusive majority (which is why, I would suspect, Rutee enjoys the blog). I really don’t feel obligated to justify myself any further.

    You also seem to have a blind spot, or a ranking system for what passes as a lack of civility; that or you think ,I would imagine he’s got more important things to worry about than a bunch of butthurt internet people.” is a perfectly reasonable description of people who have a complaint about someone else failure to correct an asinine, and offensive, statement.

    Not really, because the thing is, as established, I consider Pharyngula to be one giant, wet, jiggling anus. And assholery directed toward assholes is, in my estimation, justified.

    Another thing is that the main beef I have with Pharyngula is the dogpiling and circular firing squad mentality that creates a generally abusive atmosphere. The people there literally have no sense of moderation. Since I’m just one person, I can hardly approximate the Horde.

    If I weren’t all lazy and about to go see a pirates movie, I’d count just how many words you’ve spewed around in your SO NOT COMPLAINING AND SO DON’T CARE posts.

    Another one who needs to work on their reading comprehension. I don’t care about improving the atheist community, because fuck the atheist community. I do, however- as I’ve explained- enjoy talking shit about Pharyngula, and so I care about that. Which is why I am here.

    It’s not classist. It’s evaluational.

    So all of a sudden, intent is fucking magic? “Illiterate” has a meaning, and generally people are illiterate because they are in poverty or mentally disabled. Ableist AND classist. Check your privilege, Rutee. And check your idiocracy, Pecunium.

    I’m not MRAL. This is the last time I will address that bullshit. Further accusations will be ignored.

  42. Another one who needs to work on their reading comprehension. I don’t care about improving the atheist community, because fuck the atheist community. I do, however- as I’ve explained- enjoy talking shit about Pharyngula, and so I care about that. Which is why I am here.

    Fuck off ya whiner

  43. So, not MRAL, why come HERE and bitch about Pharyngula? Oh, it was mentioned once, and you wouldn’tbe lurking or anything. Oh, not at all.

    And you are TOTALLY MRAL with that “check your privilege” line. HAHAHA.

  44. Shorter Eurotrash: only I’m entitled to decide when someone is an asshole and only I’m entitled to be an asshole to them, unless I give you permission.

    Yeah, sounds like MRAL.

  45. “I’m not responding to anyone making accusations of being MRAL”

    Okay MRAL.

  46. Actually, sounds like a lot of angry liberal dudes. I mean you basically just described Daily Kos.

  47. And assholery directed toward assholes is, in my estimation, justified.

    Ha. Yet pseudo-MRAL doesn’t seem to get why, reflexively, he just justified the reason his irrelevant trolling of a completely different blog isn’t being tolerated here.

    Take your ranting to where it matters, i.e. Pharyngula, asshole.

  48. Shorter Eurotrash: only I’m entitled to decide when someone is an asshole and only I’m entitled to be an asshole to them, unless I give you permission.

    Almost there. In actuality, what I said is that I (along with everyone else) has the right to decide for themselves if someone is an asshole.

    I do think tone matters; however, since the whole concept is somewhat subjective, we each need to think for ourselves on the point.

    Radical notion, I guess.

  49. Ugh, pack up your tone arguments and go tell it elsewhere, asshole.

  50. Trust me, sweetums, nothing that you’ve said in this thread is in any danger of being described as “radical”.

  51. Man, looking back, I really destroyed you people. I’m kind of impressed with myself.

  52. Exactly how did you destroy us? If by destroy, you mean derail, don’t try to get muscular patting yourself on the back, that happens all the time.

    Go to bed, MRAL.

  53. Good thing your impressed with yourself, no one else is.

  54. With that amount of projection going on, I gather asshole must work in a cinema.

    You destroyed us? Ha. Weak.

  55. Well, I can certainly see why someone so determined to pat themselves on the back for being mediocre wouldn’t feel welcome at Pharyngula.

  56. “destroy”?? What is that even suppose to mean in the context of this place. I guess it must mean you successfully managed to be a titty baby and whine about some other site.

  57. Man, looking back, I really destroyed you people. I’m kind of impressed with myself.

    TSTKTS. The best argument you used came from me, and it was still not actually valid X3

    “I’m not responding to anyone making accusations of being MRAL”

    Truly, your terrible attempts at sock puppetry only improve due to other people, and it never ceases to amuse. SEriously, go read a book, you might actually learn something XD

  58. I find it funny that you are impressed you managed to whine about some other site. Thats not a big accomplishment at all.XD

  59. I’m really mad about the commenting policy at iloveponies.com They’re really mean, and I worry that it might make people hate ponies.

  60. Eurotrash: For me, I’m not so arrogant as to make a “rule” one way or the other;

    Wow… comprehension fail of your own rules. You’re entire schtick has been that Pharyngula is violating the rules of civility.

    And likewise I’m free to consider you the biggest asshole of all.

    Am I supposed to care? Seriously? A hypocrite who can’t keep his own story straight thinks I’m the “biggest asshole of all” because I don’t agree with his, conveniently self-serving definitions of civility?

    Fetch my smelling salts, lest I swoon.

    I really don’t feel obligated to justify myself any further.

    But you did it anyway.

    And assholery directed toward assholes is, in my estimation, justified.

    Unless you don’t like the people who have made that decision for themselves. Then they are supposed to listen to you about who the real assholes are; the one’s who are “really” deserving of being at the receiving end of what you think is rude.

    Another one who needs to work on their reading comprehension. In re comments about your statement that you aren’t complaining. That response wasn’t to your desires to, “improve the atheist community”, it was in response to I’m an atheist, not someone who really stakes a lot on it or gets involved in any community. I’m not “complaining” per se, I don’t really care. I just find Pharyngula obnoxious, and oh by the way, it’s not doing atheism any favors in the PR department.

    So, you are complaining, and you are talking about how Pharyngula isn’t doing the atheist community any favors.

    Which is the opposite of what you are now saying you said. It’s all there in writing, for those who have either memory, or the wit to read.

    In short… you think you are a special snowflake, and ought to be deferred to in the arbiting of who should be treated well, and who should not.

    How’s that working out?

  61. Eurotrash is going on moderation (but not the ban list), in part for sounding a lot like MRAL, but mostly because his clearly fake IP address seemingly points to a random location in the Atlantic ocean a bit south of Ghana. Which seems a little unlikely.

  62. David, he might be floating on a buoy in the Atlantic, with a Verizon Hotspot strapped to his head. You’re just mad because he totally destroyed us people. :-)

  63. Eurotrash why not just start your own blog where you can moderate it however you like? Seems more productive than coming to a site dedicated to mocking misogyny and carrying on about atheism.

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