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The Hatred of Women: A new terrible anthem for the Men’s Rights Movement!

Look out, Jade Michael and the Fuck Their Shit Up Crew! Sure, your Men’s Rights theme song “Go My Own Way” was hailed by MRAs around the internet as a work of genius, and, in the words of one eminent critic angry misogynist dude,

a veritable anthem for the red pill crowd … replete with a great, purist rock sound, a touch of humor, attitude, and a ton of gut level, red pill honesty.

It’s Red Pill-riffic! But now  Jade and the one other guy who makes up his, er, “crew” now have competition in the Men’s Rights anthem business!

Without futher ado, here is Slumberwall, with a little song called “The Hatred of Women.”

Did any of you make it past the one minute mark? I couldn’t.

Happily, Slumberwall has transcribed the terrible lyrics to the song, so you don’t have to listen to the whole thing in order to appreciate its true Men’s Rightsy awfulness. Here are the best bits, by which I mean the bits most likely to make you want to puncture your eardrums with knitting needles.

Men have no doubt

Just what they’re for

We die at work

We die in war

We die at sea

As the lifeboats float ashore

Women & children,

all aboard

Never mind that, as I pointed out yesterday, “women and children first” isn’t really a thing.

Anyway, back to Slumberwall:

We take the strain

We bear the load

Build the bridges

Sweep the roads

Make the houses

That make the homes

Pay for others

But live alone

 

And the more that it happens

The more I see

The hatred of women

For men like me

Well, if by “men like me” you mean “men who write and sing the shittiest music that has ever been made by human beings,” I have to say that I kind of understand this hatred.

Nonetheless, on YouTube the Men’s Rightsers are cheering this song as a brilliant work of social criticism.

Wanderer5200 enthuses:

I haven’t had a favorite song in a very long time. But I think this is it.

TheAetherspeak declares

 Awesome Song. The voice all purveyors of patriarchy theory remain ignorant of.

Gamenode explains:

Women have never been oppressed but through their reproductive monopoly have exploited men and seen us butchered and enslaved for their own privilege. Fuck ‘em all.

KellyJones00 adds,

Don’t fuck them at all. Just leave them alone. Don’t even donate sperm.

Time for a little bit of a musical palate cleanser.

Make sure to listen to all ten hours of that for the full palate-cleansing effect.

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Posted on April 16, 2012, in $MONEY$, antifeminism, evil women, MGTOW, misandry, misogyny, MRA, music, oppressed men, precious bodily fluids, YouTube. Bookmark the permalink. 572 Comments.

  1. Hmmmm, who does Blasteroid remind y’all of?

  2. This is what I’ve noticed about Feminist and MRA sites, there’s seems to be no middle ground.

    “Maybe women are sort of people.”

  3. Middle ground:
    “Maybe women should have some rights, just not equal rights.”

  4. @ kirbywarp — I find the comments on MRA sites tend to be much more extreme than that on feminist sites. In fact, I’ve read some that were downright disturbing. Most MRA’s are men who’ve gone through difficult marriages and have become bitter towards all women. They also seem to have a ‘what about me’ mentality and like some feminists, see them selves as victims.

  5. @ henkell — Blasteroid sounds like a great song from the Mastodon album, ‘The Hunter’. The only reason why I even started commenting on this thread was because the original post had something to do with music so I thought it would be fun to post some music video’s that could be examined through the lens of gender.

  6. Blasteroid, that doesn’t really say a whole lot. You can find extremists in nearly anything, and saying you have criticisims of Islam would be disingenuous if you meant that you are criticising Islamic extremests.

    Also, you aren’t exactly criticizing the movement if you are just criticizing the members, saying that they just hold the positions they do because they’re bitter. That’d be a legit ad-hominem (since criticism is supposed to point out why they are wrong about something).

    And seeing yourself as a victim is legitimate if you are actually the victim of something.

    So… do you have any substantial criticisms of either side?

  7. Blasteroid, cute mispelling. You clearly can’t read.

    And if that was you intention, to “examine videos through the lens of gender,” why not say so instead of acting like a not-to-bright spambot?

  8. Blasteroid reminds me of B_____n post-lobotomy and given a lithium drip.

    (psst. I’m calling you boring, Blasteroid.)

  9. And I clearly can’t type. Someday… there will be an edit button. Maybe when WP stops dicking around with comment boxes.

  10. Should we also find find a middle ground with white supremacist, whith the transphobs at RadFemHub, with the Ron Paul fanboys, with the pro-life folks, with the any-religion fundamentalists, with every other group ever? Or is it just with group who stand for everything most feminists stand against?

  11. @ Tulgey Logger — Lithium drip? The drug is only administered orally (Eskalith, Eskalith CR, Lithobid) I think you might have been thinking of Thorazine.

  12. Why am I in moderation’s purgatory? I don’t see any slur or anything offensive in my post… :(

  13. Sorry, Blastoise, but when you open with something like this:

    This is the ultimate song for boys who have been indoctrinated into a feminist education system. They’re taught at a young age masculinity is some kind of disease that needs curing.

    You aren’t exactly opening a discussion of music through the lens of gender. You’re making some pretty specific assertions, ie that there is a feminist education system that treats masculinity like a disease. Not exactly a very neutral stance, unless I suppose you think such a system could be a good thing.

  14. This is what I’ve noticed about Feminist and MRA sites, there’s seems to be no middle ground. If someone posts comments that don’t completely agree or validate each sites rigid ideology, that person is deemed a troll. I guess its just easier to assimilate.

    You posted videos of songs by the Who saying that they were perfect for “boys who have been indoctrinated into a feminist education system.”

    You haven’t made any criticisms of feminism or the MRM (although you brand yourself as someone who criticizes both) or this site’s “rigid ideology”. When asked what you’re actual criticisms are, you’ve just posted more random youtube videos.

    Dude, no one is calling you a troll for not criticizing anyone. You’d have to actually make some sort of valid criticism for that to happen.

  15. Kyrie, you mentioned R__ P____, I’ve got his name in the filter!

  16. @Kyrie:

    Hmm… B_____n’s name is part of the moderation filter, did you have that in your post?

  17. Ah, nevermind. David both ninja’d and corrected.

  18. Such criticisms are often based on individual interpretation.

    With this sentence you basically such down any potential conversation: if everything is subjective, what can you discute?

  19. Oh, I forgot about the ban on him! Makes sense now.

  20. Dude, no one is calling you a troll for not criticizing anyone. You’d have to actually make some sort of valid criticism for that to happen.

    That should be “no one is calling you a troll for criticizing anyone”.

  21. kirby warp — The problem I have with both movements is the concept of individuality seems non existent. Feminist / MRA’s examine gender collectively and often engage in communal blame.

  22. Blasteroid, could you give examples of what each group does in terms of communal blame?

  23. The problem I have with both movements is the concept of individuality seems non existent.

    All that’s… well that’s… a theory. please make your arguments. With quotes or examples, preferably.

  24. Hem, I mean Blasteroid, please tell us all about your concept of individuality, and how both feminism and the MRM fail.

  25. This is actually a perfect illustration of where MRA thinking goes wrong. Never heard grandpa speak? Here’s an idea – why didn’t you go and talk to him while he was still alive, instead of waiting for him to talk to you? Never held your Dad’s hand? I hold my Dad’s hand sometimes. Since men are raised to be a bit emotionally reticent you may need to initiate that if you want it to happen.

    I can’t help but feel that this guy’s actual needs would be better served by going to visit his father and giving him a hug than by all this women-are-out-to-get-me stuff.

  26. it could be him, but i can’t see b____n listening to anything more agressive than jason mraz.

    i’m gonna say different, ‘both sides do it’ whiner.

  27. kirbywarp – Communal Blame

    1. MRA’s / The Duke rape case: That was one isolated incident but some MRA’s blame all women for what Crystal Gail Mangum did. They think false rape accusations are common and often think every accusation is some how a lie.

    2. Feminists –. ‘Rape Culture': A term that seems like a very convenient way to instill male guilt. While all men aren’t potential rapists, many don’t realize their ‘toxic’ version of masculinity contributes to a culture that normalizes rape. That’s communal blame.

  28. Oh, goody, a special snowflake troll.

  29. Sharculese, he always struck me as more of a John Mayer listening douchecanoe.

    Ah, a “rape culture” denier. How very.

  30. Blasteroid: it’s a “culture”, that doesn’t mean everybody, or every man participate in it, just that it’s a predominant thing in our society. BTW, women aren’t immune to it, there is no gender requirement to think that rape victims are ‘asking for it’ by not walking around dressed like nuns. Or just walking around without men.

  31. So, MasterBlasteroid, how would “indiviuality” alleviate the communal blame in your examples above?

  32. 2. Feminists –. ‘Rape Culture’: A term that seems like a very convenient way to instill male guilt. While all men aren’t potential rapists, many don’t realize their ‘toxic’ version of masculinity contributes to a culture that normalizes rape. That’s communal blame.

    And? Everyone perpetuates things like racism, sexism, heterosexism; no exceptions, not even for myself. If you have a problem with that, you should try doing it less* rather than being angry at people who tell you you’re doing it.

    *and whining about rape culture, which is pretty well evidenced, means you are not going to be our magical human who doesn’t perpetuate social harms

  33. Blasteroid, if you think that the idea behind rape culture is about blaming all men (and only men) for making rape acceptable, you’ve misunderstood the whole concept of rape culture.

  34. @Blasteroid:

    Toxic Masculinity refers to the idea that a certain pattern of behavior is necessary for being a man. It is not a description of a certain pattern of behavior in men as wrong or bad or guilt-inducing.

    Rape Culture, while usually used to describe a culture in which male rape of women is normalized, does not by definition imply that it is created by men, or that all men are to blame for it, or that all men contribute to rape. Rather, it is a device used to point out that individuals who aren’t rapists can nevertheless contribute to the problem by discouraging victims from speaking out, shaming victims, or whatever. No communal blame, just a description of how a large number of individual actions leads to a huge problem.

    Hope that helps you out. :)

  35. Maybe Blasteroid should explain rape culture to all of us, since zie knows so much about it.

  36. I just thought of another criticism of gender movements — negativity!!!! There seems to be a lot of dialogue on how men and women don’t co-exist very well. Its kind of sad.

  37. Oh, I forgot to write down my facepalm.

  38. .Everyone perpetuates things like racism, sexism, heterosexism; no exceptions, not even for myself. If you have a problem with that, you should try doing it less* rather than being angry at people who tell you you’re doing it.

    i want this paragraph taught in elementary schools.

    @hellkell

    same type of boring person…

  39. Blasteroid: what?? You know some feminists (uncluding here) co-exist with men by dating them, marrying them, working with them, having them as friends and family?

  40. guys, you’re not gonna sway blasteroid with words. he’s far too Above It All for that.

  41. I think Blasteroid has confused “The MRM and Feminism” with “Anthony Zarat.” ;)

  42. @ Anathema — I think rape culture is a by-product of patriarchy?

  43. Next Blaster is going to tell us that we have no senses of humor!

    I just thought of another criticism of gender movements — negativity!!!! There seems to be a lot of dialogue on how men and women don’t co-exist very well. Its kind of sad.

    Most of us here are partnered pretty happily along the spectrum and co-existing rather well.

    Nice concern trolling, though.

  44. Also, I forgot the obvious, some men are feminists. I’d say men and women coexist pretty well on this blog.

  45. Soon he’ll tell us that he’s an agnostic because he has no time for the retarded notion of god.

  46. @ Kyrie — Visit the National Organization for Women’s website and you’ll see a very grim and depressing picture of gender relations.

  47. There seems to be a lot of dialogue on how men and women don’t co-exist very well.

    Uh, yeah, among the MRAs and MGTOWers, sure. Try to find a single post on this blog, or comment from any feminist who comments here, suggesting that men and women can’t get along.

  48. @Blasteroid:

    What in particular are you seeing on the NOW website that suggests they are against men and women co-existing?

  49. Goku Fucking Vegeta

    And? Everyone perpetuates things like racism, sexism, heterosexism; no exceptions, not even for myself. If you have a problem with that, you should try doing it less* rather than being angry at people who tell you you’re doing it.

    Wow, that’s some Original Sin bullshit right there.

  50. I just thought of another criticism of gender movements — negativity!!!! There seems to be a lot of dialogue on how men and women don’t co-exist very well. Its kind of sad.

    Isn’t it the people with very traditional gender ideals who insist that men and women two completely different species? Some even say that men and women should live in completely separate spheres.

  51. @ Kyrie — Male feminists exemplify chivalry. They think women are weak and need protection from patriarchy. Some of them also feel guilty which is the result of communal blame. Some men become feminists because they want attention from women.

  52. Public service announcement: Using the word “seems” does not make a false statement into a true one.

  53. Blasteroid: could you gave me a link please? I don’t intend to visit the whole website on the off-chance I might find something wrong.
    Also, if there is, please remember: feminism is big movement, made of a huge lot of people. Sometimes some people screw up, and I won’t feel responsible.

  54. Oh, Blasteroid is going to tell all the male feminists out there exactly how they think. You know, seeing how there are male feminists commenting on this blog, it would have been really easy to just ask male feminists how they think.

    But no. Asking people what they think would be just to easy. Blasteroid can read minds.

  55. @ kirby warp — I have a hard time finding anything on NOW’s website which might suggest life isn’t completely horrible for women.

  56. Blaster, [citation needed] for basically everything you’re asserting.

  57. I notice you’re not explaining rape culture. Cat got your tongue?

  58. @ Anathema —

    Aren’t there some feminists who feel men cannot be a part of their movement, just supporters?

  59. Well, THAT was the most boilerplate MRA definition of a male feminist and their motivations EVER.

    Blasteroid, come back when you’re more interesting.

  60. I have a hard time finding anything on NOW’s website which might suggest life isn’t completely horrible for women.

    Then it should be really easy for you to find a link for us. So do it.

  61. Goku Fucking Vegeta

    @Blasteroid- Right fucking on.

  62. Blaster, men can be part of feminism, they just can’t be Boss Feminist. Got a problem with that?

  63. @ Hippodameia —

    If we live in a rape culture, how would you describe the culture in Darfur?

  64. “Male feminists exemplify chivalry.” Not the male feminists I’ve seen here, they don’t.
    “They think women are weak” That’s a very un-feminist statement.
    “They think women are weak and need protection from patriarchy.” Does fighting racism means PoC are weak? Being a victim, or being opressed isn’t being weak.
    “Some of them also feel guilty which is the result of communal blame. ” Proof? Anyway, people shouldn’t feel guilty of being born something, only of the harm they cause by their action or inaction.
    “Some men become feminists because they want attention from women.” Again, how would you know? How would that work on internet? Do you realize that it would be a terribly ineffective method? Though I guess “being a decent and respectful person” probably increase your odds with feminists, it’s hardly a proof it’s why male feminists do this choice.

  65. I thought we’d decided that Jilted John was the MRA anthem.

  66. “@ kirby warp — I have a hard time finding anything on NOW’s website which might suggest life isn’t completely horrible for women.”
    Maybe because they focus on the problems related to women, not the “sunshine and lollipop” parts of society, because, you know, that’s how activism usually works. Then again I know nothing about NOW, but your cricicism seems very strange.

  67. @Blasteroid:

    Erm… How about this? Or this? Or these two? “Completely horrible” is a pretty low bar.

    Anyway, NOW is an activist website. Why wouldn’t you expect to see rallying cries and calls to action? I’d hardly say that these suggest that life is “completely horrible for women.”

  68. Male feminists exemplify chivalry. They think women are weak and need protection from patriarchy. Some of them also feel guilty which is the result of communal blame. Some men become feminists because they want attention from women.

    nobody cares about the imaginary version of feminism you made up, dude

  69. Bed Time!

    I’d like to leave you with this —

  70. okay, so it definitely is dumb, whiny, and self-absorbed enough to be b____n

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