Spearheader “warns” women to stop being so feministy, or else!

More mustache-twirling from the MRA crowd.

Another day, another threat – sorry, prediction – of impending violence towards women from someone on The Spearhead. This time from a fellow called James, in his twenties:

The OLDER MEN simply do not understand what it is like to be a young man today.

I will say one thing though- a very big percent of young men of my generation do not believe in this feminism or white knight bullshit, and they have very little tolerance towards it.

Older men will allow themselves to get ass raped in divorce courts, but the younger men of my generation have no such tolerance.

So if the younger women think they are going to treat the younger men with the same level of hatred that the older women do to the older men, they have a big surprise waiting for them.

1. Either the men will just entirely boycott the younger women

or

2. They will actively fight for their rights, even with force, if it requires it

What I mean by that is, the younger generation of men are much more violent than the older generation. So in plain English, if women think they are going to treat the younger generation of men like shit, then we are going to see a huge increase in violence against women.

In short, the men of my generation are not as willing to tolerate the abuse from man hating women as the older men are. Young women would be very wise to take note of this.

Unfair quote-mining on my part? Not exactly. James got 72 upvotes for this bit of wisdom on The Spearhead, and only  8 downvotes.

Meanwhile, our old friend at the Pro-Male/Anti-Feminist Technology blog highlighted James’ comment in a post of his own, quoting the whole thing, and adding his own spin:

 The younger you go on average you will find less tolerance for anything pro-female.  This is not surprising.  Even looking at my own life, I have been dealing with feminism since I was in elementary school especially if we define feminism correctly as feminine-ism.  I remember (female) teachers being pro-female and anti-male going back to first grade.  As bad as I had it, it is worse for men younger than me.  They’re not going to listen to lies about how women are oppressed because all they have seen with their own eyes are the opposite. …

By 2020 the balance between men who are currently old vs. men who are currently young will have shifted.  There will be less old men who remember life pre-feminism.  There will be more young men who have spent their entire lives under the feminist jack boot.  There will be more men who are completely fed up with women.  Around 2020 there will be a lot more men willing to take radical direct action against feminism.

“Radical direct action against feminism?” What does this mean? Generalized violence against women, as James seems to suggest? Firebombing police stations and courthouses, as MRA “martyr” Tom Ball urged in his manifesto? Like most of those in the Men’s Rights movement who like to talk ominously about what they hope will be a massive anti-feminist backlash, the PMAFT blogger is vague about what exactly this might entail. But it’s not hard to connect the dots here.

Protip: MRAs, if you don’t want people to see the Men’s Rights movement as a hate movement — you need to stop posting, stop upvoting, stop even tolerating this kind of hateful shit.

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Posted on March 30, 2012, in antifeminism, bullying, evil women, MGTOW, misogyny, MRA, terrorism, threats. Bookmark the permalink. 766 Comments.

  1. Katz, you may steal it. I stole it from Sars over at Tomato Nation.

  2. caution no longer tolerating female abuse is a threat of violence

    Why don’t you take your own advice and really feminist hate has come back to bite it in the ass, so you may want to face that fact your hate has brought hate upon you. Not that I hate you this is the net and you really don’t matter.

  3. Rutee – My bad. And an even stupider argument now.

    Not that it matters, because something tells me Caution isn’t here to promote services for homeless men.

  4. No silly feminist have done all tehy can to punish men by condoning violence against men forcing fathers out of their childrens lives and opposing the fathers count act. Other ways they have harmed men is by enforcing the FBI’s deffinition of a rapist as a man and a victim as a woman.

    Feminists condone violence against men? How?

    Feminists force fathers out of their children’s lives? How?

    Oh, and you’ve misread or misunderstood the FBI’s definition of rape. Quelle surprise! That’s okay. Some intelligent people did too. Here. I’ll break it down for you.

    “Penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim.”

    First of all, most obviously, men have anuses. (Don’t they?) So the FBI’s definition of rape does not exclude men as victims.

    But here’s where people much, much, much brighter than you also misunderstood the definition (I would argue): It does not specify whether the person doing the penetration is the victim or the rapist.

    Anyway, either way, it’s a vast improvement over the old definition, and in any case, it’s only used for gathering and analyzing statistics, so “enforcement” = a report. Not a prison sentence.

  5. Caution, is English your first language? If it is, please stop abusing it, it did nothing to you.

  6. but eat a bowl of bees

    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

  7. Facts and feminist go together like a fish and a bicycle hell feminist you statistics like a fish uses a bicycle.

    You say all these words but all I hear is ARGLE BARGLE KILL ALL THE WIMMENZ.

  8. caution no longer tolerating female abuse is a threat of violence

    Fun fact with rape stats, no one has been able to do an acurate report on how many men and boys are raped by women or men since most remain to afraid or ashamed to do so. Not to mention it was feminists that said 99% of rapist are men. Despite all the women raping boys in their care and getting nods for it

  9. On homeless queer youth: http://www.americanprogress.org/issues/2010/06/pdf/lgbtyouthhomelessness.pdf Studies on this matter are pretty consistent, queer kids make up disproportionate amounts of homeless youth, some estimates are as high as 40%, though that may vary based on location. In addition, trans people are homeless at double the national rate, for latino trans people, it’s five times the rate, for native american eight times the rate, for black people thirteen times the rate. http://www.thetaskforce.org/downloads/reports/reports/ntds_full.pdf

    Studies on race and homelessness find very disproportionate numbers of people of color among the homeless as well http://www.unh.edu/sociology/media/pdfs-journal2008/Spadaro-Bliss3EDITED.pdf

    About 40% of homeless populations are under 18, and there has been some suggestions that this population is increasing.

    Gender composition of men vs. women and homelessness is largely unknown. Male dominated populations are overstudied, female dominated populations of homeless are understudied. So you end up with reports like the 2007 U.S. Conference of Mayors that found that 76% of studies had focused on single homeless adults. They found that in families, 65% of individuals were female, and that in single adults, about 67% were male. The fact that women’s domestic abuse shelters are not included in federal and state data reports further increases likelihood of undercounting. And, if a study uses being turned away from a shelter as the indicator of unsheltered, you run into the problem that most cities have far more beds for men than for women (see, for example, the court’s analysis of number of beds in Community House, Inc. v. City of Boise, 490 F.3d 1041, 1044 n. 2 (9th Cir.2007) ) and homeless women are likely to be aware of this. In addition, it is well established that homeless women are more likely than homeless men to be accompanied by children, and homeless people accompanied by children are typically not included in single adult homelessness statistics. Also, the habit of doing homelessness studies in urban areas may result in undercounting of women, as what studies are available on rural and suburban homelessness suggest even among single adults, women are more represented in those locations than in urban ones. Some people have also suggested that women are more likely to “double up” in welfare hotels and other forms of temporary housing, meaning that homeless women often allow other homeless women to stay with them in their temporary spaces, increasing their likelihood of being missed when it comes to most methods of counting the unsheltered. Also, homeless sex workers, a group that is often more women than men, are known to spend the night at a house or motel with a client, which can increase difficulty in studying these populations.

  10. Fun fact with rape stats, no one has been able to do an acurate report on how many men and boys are raped by women or men since most remain to afraid or ashamed to do so. Not to mention it was feminists that said 99% of rapist are men. Despite all the women raping boys in their care and getting nods for it

    this is something you made up, fyi

  11. Wow… you know, personally I’d just like to have less homeless people. I’m not sure one gender “dominates” here.

  12. caution no longer tolerating female abuse is a threat of violence

    How are women on the lower end of poverty when they make up a majority of higher educated and employed Ruttee? Tell me why are 90% of homless veterans men? And the DSC still states the 76% of the homeless population is male. fucking morons

  13. yeah, it’s not like women have traditionally been barred from combat or anything. it’s almost like the majority of veterans in general are male or something

  14. Wow… you know, personally I’d just like to have less homeless people. I’m not sure one gender “dominates” here.

    dave i don’t think you understand the critical importance of punishing women to ending homelessness

  15. It’s still rather funny to me that caution chose homelessness as his fake area of concern and then attacked two women who had been homeless. It’s proof fucking positive that his concern regarding homelessness has nothing to do with the actual homeless, and everything to do with grasping at straws to try and find some way to attack feminists and to attack women.

  16. caution no longer tolerating female abuse is a threat of violence

    If a woman is living in a domestic violence shelter than she isn’t really homeless those places offer job training and section 8 housing options to women. Hell SAVE service is trying to extend the section8 housing to men and boys that are homosexual or just fleeing an abusive partner

  17. How are women on the lower end of poverty when they make up a majority of higher educated and employed Ruttee?

    Because women need more education to get paid in the same neighborhood as a man with less of it, and it’s usually still less.

    Tell me why are 90% of homless veterans men

    Well, for starters this can fall prey to the same problems general counting of the homeless does, and for second, because men make up higher proportions of those in the military.

  18. caution no longer tolerating female abuse is a threat of violence

    you type all these words and all I see LOL “Menz baad rabble rabble rabble kill da menz for not doing azz da femminshts say!”

  19. Tell me why are 90% of homless veterans men?

    That was awesome!

  20. If a woman is living in a domestic violence shelter than she isn’t really homeless those places offer job training and section 8 housing options to women.

    Are you familiar with homeless shelters at all?

  21. you type all these words and all I see LOL “Menz baad rabble rabble rabble kill da menz for not doing azz da femminshts say!”

    It’s rather refreshing to see someone who’s so upfront about their disingenuity.

  22. caution no longer tolerating female abuse is a threat of violence

    Ruttee the wage gap is because women tend not to do overtime and men still tend to die on the job even if its white collar. I read in the paper that a man died in his office on friday and his wife thought he left her, until the janitor found him. Men in countries like sweden transfer their paid paternaty leave over to their wives.

  23. If a woman is living in a domestic violence shelter than she isn’t really homeless…

    WHAT? OH WAIT, I FORGOT THAT YOU NEVER KNOW EVEN THE SLIGHTEST BIT WTF YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. PLEASE CONTINUE SPOUTING UTTER NONSENSE.

    Pretty sure caution has hit the NWO ratio.

  24. Incorrect look up the case of Derrick K Miller that man was forced out of his kids lives and took his own. Tell me what have feminist done to spread awearness about the growing number of women commiting domestic violence?

    So yes. Looked it up. He said he killed himself (shot himself on the courthouse steps in 2002) because he lost a family court case on overdue child support. Nothing to do with being forced out of his kids’ lives or being a victim of DV.

    Fun fact with rape stats, no one has been able to do an acurate report on how many men and boys are raped by women or men since most remain to afraid or ashamed to do so.

    Fun fact: No rape report is wholly accurate because many rape victims think that rape is shameful, so lots of them don’t report it. That is fun, huh? What are you doing to change that, Caution?

  25. There were a grand total of 4,547 deaths at the workplace in the entire US in 2010. http://www.bls.gov/iif/

    I love how obviously false caution’s hyperbole is.

  26. I read in the paper that a man died in his office on friday and his wife thought he left her, until the janitor found him
    This misandry must be corrected at once!! Quick, get more women into white collar jobs!

    Men in countries like sweden transfer their paid paternaty leave over to their wives

    So what you’re telling us is: even in a country that has the awesome option of giving fathers time to bond with their newborns, they’re transferring that leave over to their wives? Assuming this is factual, WTF? Dude, you give me paternity leave and Ima spend time with my kids.

  27. CURSES!!

  28. Ruttee the wage gap is because women tend not to do overtime and men still tend to die on the job even if its white collar.

    this is also some shit you made up, fyi

  29. like dude, how do you write something like “men just work HARDER than women, because… um… something something” and not recognize that you’re trading in misogyny?

  30. Ruttee the wage gap is because women tend not to do overtime and men still tend to die on the job even if its white collar.

    You don’t know how these studies work, do you? They control for hours worked; men still make more even when women have equal time spent on the job (And I’m pretty sure you just made some shit up about how dudes put in more overtime hours). Men make more when they work the same job, same title, same hours, and have an inferior education. And they have an easier time getting there for their education level too.

  31. Rutee, has there been a salary comparison controlling for job, title, hours worked, and also, actual number of men and women in the study? I think there probably is sort of a wage gap, but it seems to me more due to social pressures than any direct discrimination, because your guys’ citations are always pretty vague.

  32. Find some odd language when looking up Derrick K Miller:

    Governments have denied DUE PROCESS, and/or otherwise “Herded” hundreds of thousands of honest people into the economic gas chambers known as; “Child Support Enforcement.” Primarily over OUT-OF CONTROL INTEREST/PENALTY structures that keep a payer spouse in hock endless

    Source

    Change might want to have more of a review process for people filing petitions. And why does a guy in Afghanistan care about the US civil justice system?

  33. Hey Dave just out of curiosity why are you here/ commenting? I mean I know you started commenting because of the loveshy thing but now you just seem to be nitpicking and disagreeing with everyone randomly. What do you hope to accomplish here?

  34. Rutee, has there been a salary comparison controlling for job, title, hours worked, and also, actual number of men and women in the study? I think there probably is sort of a wage gap, but it seems to me more due to social pressures than any direct discrimination, because your guys’ citations are always pretty vague.

    Study
    In this case, the wage gap and employment disparities will linger as long as the burden of unpaid work falls upon women
    Adjusted for factors that could affect pay, like age, race, education, number of children in the household and part-time status, women earn 86 cents for every $1 earned by men. That’s up from 81 cents in 2000.

    I would post more but I do not want moderation. And I found these with a two second google search. You should be easily able to do the same. Go read them and quit trolling.

  35. To add to Princessbobob:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male%E2%80%93female_income_disparity_in_the_United_States#References

    Plenty of references of studies there, both analyzing industry wage gaps (including same jobs, same hours, everything tends to be controlled for) and how social side cultural conceptions of gender influence both supply and demand models for sex segregation in industries.

  36. Gahh! Princessbonbon. Curse you keyboard!

  37. And bear in mind that the burdens on women tilt those factors against us. It’s all well and good for us to talk about how it is after we control for precise title and job, but then you *also* factor in that women are less likely to be hired for a lot of good positions, less likely to be promoted even if they are superior workers due to negative stereotypes. We are more likely to work part time because they also have to take care of kids. We have more shit to take *at the job itself* in most jobs (Male nurse is one of the few where this is not true, IIRC); women are edged towards lower status (and lower pay) work.

  38. PrincessBobBob is hilarious. :D You make a funny Flib!

  39. This is a pretty good, pretty comprehensive study (although it is from 2000), just to add to what others have already cited. I’m horrified that “us guys'” citations are always so vague! Us guys shall go hang ours’s heads in shames.

  40. Dave, seriously? What about the studies are vague?

  41. Never mind, you’re right- apologies for questioning. I’m not an expert on the subject, of course. I’m more interested in providing emotional support for the L-S regulars. That’s my out-group.

  42. you type all these words and all I see LOL “Menz baad rabble rabble rabble kill da menz for not doing azz da femminshts say!”

    Except that literally no one here is (a) typing in an impenetrable word salad, or (b) advocating, excusing, or justifying actual violence against random men because they are pissed at misandrists. Other than that, yeah, exactly parallel.

  43. Then go there and support them. Not sure why you’re here.

  44. The above was to Dave.

  45. @Dave: I’m an academic (humanities, specifically literature), and I’m familiar with the issue of peer review. I also do interdisciplinary work with people in the social sciences (more sociology), and have colleagues who work with statistical methodology. An academic study that did NOT control for variables (in this case, “job, title, hours worked, and also, actual number of men and women in the study” would not even begin to cover all of them) would not be published.

    You’ve gotten links by people above. There are LOTS of reputable studies on wage gap that are not, in fact, despite the trolls, comparing executives to secretaries!, but in the same area (women in medical profession earn less than men generally).

    You have to think of how you look to us: you swan in here, with no idea who is present (there are professionals who work with social services, with the homeless, and there are academics) and sort of spout off vague commentary like that that could easily be solved with a few moments’ google seach (no, wikipedia is not authoritative necessarily but often does link to studies; and if you put the phrase “site:edu” on your search, you will find publications at American universities, and there is Google scholar) but are demanding people do your homework for you. You probably don’t know enough about these issues to contribute anything to a discussion: as I said, I’m in humanities, but I’ve been active working with feminist and queer and critical race theorists and authors for some years now (early 1980s for the feminist, early 1990s for the queer and critical race). I teach this stuff. There are others here who have similar areas of professional expertise in their fields.

    I suggest if you are not in fact trolling, and wish to actually engage in discussion, that you read some past threads, lurk more, and get a better sense of the level of discussion here before trying to engage in any real discussion. If you’re just wanting to troll (and I’m no able to tell myself0, well, then, ignore everything I said.

  46. Hey Dave, what’s your evening height?

  47. @ithiliana, I’m sorry for being presumptuous. To explain, I sort of read this as a humor blog, and not really an advanced sociological/feminist space- but clearly there are a lot of very well-informed people here, which I didn’t realize. Anyway, it’s been nice talking to you all.

  48. Anyway, it’s been nice talking to you all.

    going so soon? Funny I was just thinking maybe you aren’t who you say you are….

  49. I mean, how is the initiator supposed to know if the woman (or man) has had one drink?

    I know this was PAGES ago, but: DUDE. ASK THEM. USE YOUR WORDS! :D

  50. @Dave: nobody here defines it as an advanced or sociological or feminist space — but there are people here who are all of those things and more. You aren’t presumptuous so much as ill informed–and even if you were thinking humor, you haven’t exactly brought any humor to the table either. You wanted to address the characterization of the LS site here–you did (I don’t think you convinced anybody but you talked about it)–then, as noted, you sort of hung around making not very well informed claims, and (unless I’m missing something) not trying to really engage or discuss with the regulars here who do have a community/communities.

    You can do whatever you want–but the number of trolls here who first come over with a pretense of good fellowship makes people a bit…..aware! You didn’t try to get to know people, or, as I said, learn what goes on here (there are huge strings of hilarious cat macro discussions as well as the advanced stuff). But if you’re going make claims about well established scholarship on gender issues OR cats, you’d be better off with some background knowledge. that’s true for any site.

  51. Also–why think “humor” is something entirely different than “sociological” or “feminist”–is it becuz omg, feminists have no sense of humor!

  52. Once I became a feminist, I immediately started hating jokes. And fun. And puppies!

  53. Is it just me, or does Caution very long name make NWO’s prose, in retrospect, seems coherent and even readable????????????????????

  54. Once I became a feminist, I immediately started hating jokes. And fun. And puppies!

    Totally! MRAs are always complaining about how tough they have it — try being a feminist! Never laughing, never smiling, always shaking your head disapprovingly with pursed lips, always hanging out in the emergency room waiting for your false-rape kit, always stealing men’s used condoms and running out the door laughing … Wait a minute. That part’s pretty fun.

  55. Dave: Solanas is on record as saying that SCUM was dead serious. Was that statement in itself a joke? Eh- maybe, maybe not.</i

    I think you are missing the nuance in her explanation of SCUM. She was as serious as Swift in "A Modest Proposal". That is she had a serious intent in writing it, not that it was meant to be taken as a serious solution for the problem it addressed.

    But again, she tried to kill a man, so you know. I seriously doubt you’d be rationalizing this away if the genders were reversed.

    So now you can read my mind as well as Solanas’? Where have I said her shooting Warhol was justified? Find it, I’ll wait.

    No luck? Wonder why? Could it be I think she wasn’t? BecauseI don’t, and I’ve not been, “rationalising it away”, I’ve been saying the reason you are positing isn’t substantiable. There is a difference. I’m not saying what she did was in any way acceptable.

    I’m saying your argument is shit.

    And Kendra- I’m not trying to play any game.

    Compare and contrast to :And you’re right- this is just speculation. I think it makes sense, but nonetheless you’re also right- it wouldn’t hold up in a court. Good thing this isn’t one!

    Looks like you are playing a game to me.

    It’s actually a bad thing, for you, that this isn’t a court case. In court we’d just register an objection (any one of at least three, assumes facts not in evidence, speculation, calls for a conclusion on the part of the witness) and the judge would tell you to shut up.

    Here you are able to dig a larger hole as you try to explain why the objections to your, “just so story” aren’t shooting holes in it; large enough to lead an elephant through.

    Then again, you can’t even be consistent in one sentence:

    Finally, of course I agree that ’60s feminism should be viewed through a ’60s lens. But, um, this license does not extend to attempted murder. Not that I think you’re suggesting it does, but just… to be clear.

    You don’t think the context of the times should be used to judge an attempted murder (which no one here has tried to do) but you do think the attempted murderer should be judged on a work which was part of the lens that 60’s feminism should be judged by.

    So which is it? Evidence in the reasons for her shooting Warhol, or not? You can’t have it both ways. You sure as hell don’t get to beat people up for demanding it be viewed in context, and then say the context of it is essential in understanding what she did.

  56. i HATE being on the other side of the world sometimes. I miss out on the arguing about homelessness with trolls. but mostly i like the good weather and the beaches.

  57. caution no longer tolerating female abuse is a threat of violence

    Holly you are wrong again like you if you’d like to help veterans who served this country at risk to their own lives please donate to the following sites, if you actually give a damn about these men
    http://www.helpusa.org/Programs/veterans_services actually
    http://www.military.com/benefits/content/veteran-benefits/homeless-veterans-programs.html

  58. Unless one donate to this cause, zie is a man-hater?

  59. Holly: As a veteran (disabled to boot), I am happy with the things you are doing for me, men in general; and think the subset of men in general, who are veterans, are done well thereby.

    Keep on keeping on.

  60. abeegoesbuzz: I KNOW!! I totally stopped laughing at Eddie Izzard when I became a feminist. And we rescued and hand-raised our kitten for the express purpose of being cruel to her when she grew up – feminism means hating kittens, right? My copy of the Manifesto seems a bit out of date.

  61. I’m not a nationalist (though I am a statist, anyone who wants an explanation of that distinction can ask me more if you like), and I am staunchly opposed to war, except in genuine self defense. And I mean genuine self defense. None of this preemptive invasion of poor countries nonsense.

    Counter-recruiting and anti-war activism, doing our part to reduce the number of veterans and disabled veterans since forever.

  62. @Holly,

    One thing that needs to be answered. Hypergamy is not a problem until it IS a problem. If people your own league make you vomit, people above your attractiveness don’t want to date you, and being alone for the rest of your life is not an option for you, then hypergamy is directly causing you emotional pain. You can fix it in three ways:

    a) Wait for a person above your league, who will still like you, despite being less hot than they are. That’s fine, you can try to make up for physical plainness with a great personality, but there are better looking people with the same great personality out there, so I wouldn’t recommend it. You might end up waiting for a long time without anything happening.

    b) Make yourself as attractive as possible. That could definitely work, unless you have an unsexy skeletal structure.

    c) If you can’t make yourself attractive enough for the type of people you’re attracted to, try to find beauty in people like yourself. If you have a cashier job, are people who have that same job really below you? If you’re average, why not give average people a chance?

    That was the main idea behind my hypergamy post and not that low self esteem is a virtue, or that you should knock yourself down/sacrifice yourself in order to make some niceguy happy.

  63. RE: Emma

    Hypergamy is not a problem until it IS a problem.

    Statements are not tautological until they are tautological!

    If people your own league make you vomit, people above your attractiveness don’t want to date you,

    Everyone has different ideas of attractiveness. I personally think my husband is the most gorgeous man alive. If there is someone in his league, I have yet to notice. I believe myself NOT to be the most gorgeous man alive, but HE pursued ME. I believe I can safely say he doesn’t walk around thinking I’m less attractive than he is. That or my personality is fucking ATOMIC.

    and being alone for the rest of your life is not an option for you,

    I don’t understand this statement. It’s like saying, “being poor isn’t an option for you.” You sometimes don’t get to CHOOSE stuff like that. Also single doesn’t equal alone.

    try to find beauty in people like yourself.

    I believe this is good policy regardless of dating practice.

    I still don’t understand why this hypergamy idea seems so gendered. There are men who pine for women completely unsuitable for them as well. We all learn who the right people are for us in the end and learn what standards we have that are unnecessarily strict.

  64. @Emma
    Even if someone buys into the notion that there is one single standard of physical attractiveness (i.e. a “league”), if people “their own league” make someone vomit, then that person probably has low self-esteem.
    And what you’re saying is: women trying to have sex with physically attractive men is hypergamy and causes men to be hurt, but men trying to have sex with physically attractive women is somehow not hypergamy and is not hurting women? I mean, if women should be having sex men they find physically unattractive because otherwise those men would feel hurt, shouldn’t men also be having sex with women they find unattractive? That’s a big double standard you have there.

  65. Emma: One thing that needs to be answered. Hypergamy is not a problem until it IS a problem.

    Tautology.

    Being poor isn’t a problem until being poor is a problem.

    Being dead isn’t a problem if you aren’t dead.

    Etc.

    What is a problem is the attempt to make an artifact of actively patriarchal systems, and generalising it to an innate truth about all human interaction.

    Because that’s bullshit.

    Extending it, to say that women need to be treated as less than equal of men, that’s more than bullshit. It’s morally wrong, and evil.

  66. One thing that needs to be answered. Hypergamy is not a problem until it IS a problem. If people your own league make you vomit, people above your attractiveness don’t want to date you, and being alone for the rest of your life is not an option for you, then hypergamy is directly causing you emotional pain. You can fix it in three ways:

    What the shit? Will you idiots get your stories straight? Here I had a thing all about how Hypergamy is an artifact of economic discrimination against women, and you’re trying to talk about attractiveness. Which unlike the social status thing has little to no evidence behind it existing *at all*, much less as an actual problem. Fucking lackwits.

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