Fox News Doctor Dude: The Hunger Games Will Make Teen Girls Violent, Unfeminine
Do NOT catch this fever. Symptoms include: Being a girl. Shooting people with arrows. Catching on fire.
Apparently there’s a movie in theaters now by the name of The Hunger Games – it’s sort of obscure, so you may not have heard of it. Despite the title, it does not have anything to do with food. No, apparently it has something to do with young people fighting to the death on TV, or something.
Over on the Fox News website, Dr. Keith Ablow – described as “a psychiatrist and member of the Fox News Medical A-Team” – is shocked to discover that this film contains:
1) Attractive young people
2) Violence
This deadly combination alarms Dr. Ablow, who warns:
The Hunger Games … adds to the toxic psychological forces it identifies, rather than reducing them. …
It is an entertainment product of complete fiction and great potency, given its intense level of fantasy and violence. As such, it only conveys young people closer to “expressing” in a virtual format their powerful and primitive instincts (potentially kindling their desire to truly express such instincts) while conveying them further from their daily realities and a little further still from their real selves.
And apparently the film fails utterly in inculcating hostility towards the Kardashian family.
Almost no one will emerge from a theater swearing off shows like the Keeping Up With the Kardashians, or Jersey Shore because they are produced by adults happy enough to make a buck off of stupefying teenagers.
As I am sure you are all aware, inculcating hostility towards the Kardashians is the aim of all great art, as Aristotle explained so many centuries ago:
A tragedy is the imitation of an action that is serious, and also, as having magnitude, complete in … with incidents arousing pity and terror, with which to accomplish its purgation of these emotions. Those Kardashian girls are such stuck up bitches — “ooh i got a big ass, everybody look at me!” And don’t even get me started on Snooki.
Hey, can I get a goddamn gyro here?
That quote is, of course, from Aristotle’s famous treatise “Ho-etics.”
In addition to not inculcating hatred towards the Kardashians, Dr. Ablow warns us, The Hunger Games will make its viewers
more likely to come out of theaters having shed some measure of the healthy psychological defenses (which are, luckily, partly reinforced by socialization) that keep them at a distance from their violent impulses. …
Other than entertaining millions and millions of teenagers and making millions and millions of dollars, the net result of The Hunger Games is likely to be:
1) Females will be further distanced from their traditional feminine characteristics that … suggested they were not being real “girls” if they were extremely physically violent.
2) Young teens and many pre-teens will be awakened to the fact that they are capable of extreme violence, given the right set of circumstances.
3) A few psychologically vulnerable teens—who would have come to no good anyhow—may be inspired to replicate the film’s violence.
So I’m guessing that’s a big “thumbs down” from Dr. Ablow.
Given that the mainstream media is but a tool in the hand of our gynocentric matriarchal overlordsladies, I’m not quite sure how this article slipped through. But we’re lucky it did.
Over on What Men Are Saying About Women, where I found big chunks of Ablow’s essay quoted without any explanation of where they were from, our good friend Christian J. explains that:
This movie is straight out of the slut-feminists’ arsenal of the “You Go Grrrllll” mantras. They have promoted violent women and will continue to do so (think Valerie Solanas). Slut-feminists justify this action under their delusional and blatantly false claim that women should be able to protect themselves as they are constantly attacked and physically abused on a daily basis, everywhere they go..
Where they get that from is ofcourse by generating their own falsified and doctored statistics which they have done for too long to remember.
If anyone suggests you go see The Hunger Games, they are probably a slut feminist. You should run far away from them in case they decide to punch you.
Go watch old episodes of The A-Team instead, a show which is totally not violent in any way.
Posted on March 28, 2012, in antifeminism, evil women, hypocrisy, I'm totally being sarcastic, irony alert, MGTOW, misogyny, MRA, reactionary bullshit, Uncategorized, violence. Bookmark the permalink. 359 Comments.
MRA’s hate movies that show women kicking ass, calling them “you go, grrrl” fantasies. Then they complain that women don’t fight enough in wars, fight criminals to protect their male relatives, or even give random women bloody noses to undo the great misandry that is Title IX (reference: Big book o’ learning). What do they want? Are women supposed to be fighters or not?
My slut-shaming MRA-lite cousin gave this movie a big thumbs-up. I’m glad that more reputable sources endorse it!
“A few psychologically vulnerable teens—who would have come to no good anyhow”
Wow, such concern for troubled young people.
Stop hoarding all the crossbows dude.
Also, who are the women having to protect themselves from-other women or….other men?
HA! I called it a day or so ago. Lemme find it but, yeah, totally called it.
People are already capable of violence, this is nothing new. Just how dumb does Ablow think everyone is? Never mind, he’s on Fox “News.”
My slut-feminist self is going to seen THG very soon.
Is this anything like when all the kids were reading Harry Potter and then they all started doing satanic witchcraft? I hope not, because that was scary.
I’m absolutely sick of being told how to be a woman. Fuck your traditional feminine characteristics. I can damn well wear a frilly skirt one day and fatigues the next and I’m still a woman. And a man can do the same and still be a man.
Fox News has nothing but morons on their payroll, so I’m not surprised in the least they’d have a doctor who spouts this nonsense. And yet what about all those movies for the teenage boys that shows violence? Though I will say there are some idiots out there who complain about that too. And it grinds my gears as well.
I’m pretty sure this is the same guy who wrote the piece on how allowing 5-year-old boys to wear toenail polish if they want will destroy them for life. Clutching his pearls over kids not being trained into exactly the gender roles he wants is kind of his schtick.
According to Dr. Ablow, women are naturally meek and passive.
According to Christian J, women are naturally violent and aggressive.
Here’s a wacky idea I want to throw out. Some women are very violent, some women are very meek, and many women are somewhere in between those two extremes. It’s almost like each woman is an individual person rather than a representative of her entire gender.
Yup. http://manboobz.com/2012/03/27/mens-rights-redditors-take-on-racism-by-which-they-mean-a-white-dude-admitting-that-white-dudes-arent-actually-oppressed/comment-page-1/#comment-139325
My 72 year old traditionalist dad has asked me to take him to see Hunger Games because he’s a sucker for the dystopian future trope. Does that make him a slut feminist?
Ablow’s a twit, but now I AM curious to see if the Hunger Games spawn underground Fight-Club-style arenas.
I wanted to leave a comment on the linked article, but alas, apparently Fox News doesn’t accept comments. Anyway, I had two messages for the Fox News morons and their conservative fans:
First, go make your complaints to your uber-conservative friends in the MPAA. Ask them why they think highly realistic images of severed heads are more acceptable than a scene in which a woman is shown enjoying sex. Ask why it’s preferable to have teenagers see someone’s head blown off than to show them (gasp) a nipple. Because they apparently think there is no problem with extremely violent entertainment. Oh, wait, neither do you, as long as women are on the receiving end of that violence, and their role is limited to that of plot devices for male protagonists.
Second, we are not idiots, and teenagers are not idiots. We all KNOW what the traditional feminine role is — lying passively on one’s back with a detached expression, being a helpless victim, dying in childbirth and tearfully pleading with men to stop all that carnage (to no avail, of course, because who the fuck listens to a woman?). We know this is the role — it’s just that the overwhelming majority of us don’t like it. Even those of us who are more than willing to foist that role on other women.
Gonna go catch it tonight
/is excited
I wonder how dude survived both volumes of Kill Bill to make it here
The Fox dude’s main argument seems to be that upon viewing this movie, young girls will abruptly realize that violence exists.
…As so often, I kinda wish that I lived in their universe.
I’ll take a well reasoned and possible panning of the film from feminist frequency, but not from this sexist dude. What a tool.
Still not as dumb as the people whining that Rue is played by a black kid.
Well, I’ve never read The Hunger Games (it looks interesting, but I already have approx three months’ worth of books to read minus course books… and I read fast!), but I would say that the most ‘traditonally’ feminine things about me… I like My Little Pony, chocolate, and funky socks. So, I don’t think The Hunger Games will magically make feminine girls into tomboys.
I’m not violent though, apart from at printers…
Now, an enterprising tool would combine the outrage and suggest that The Hunger Games was promoting racial violence. But then he’d have to pretend to be opposed to racial violence.
The whole thing is garbage of course, but I’m really wondering what his logic/facts is/are here. Is this based on interviews of teens coming out of the theater after a showing? Research? What? I’d bet dollars to donuts that it’s mostly just his own bogus theory, but it really makes no sense. I know a lot of people who’ve started to acquire a disdainful taste for reality tv after reading the books, and not all of them are slutfems like me who hate shows like The Bachelor on principle. I feel like it’s pretty hard to read those books and then not turn around and question a lot of reality TV, TV in general and possibly the culture we have in which some of our absurd shows thrive.
Part of me wonders if kids questioning shit is what really grinds this guy’s gears.
Hm… Hunger Games is about being strong and fighting against an oppressive government. And then there’s Twilight which encourages abusive relationships….
“Still not as dumb as the people whining that Rue is played by a black kid.”
I know right? She was described has being black in the book ffs!
“Hm… Hunger Games is about being strong and fighting against an oppressive government. And then there’s Twilight which encourages abusive relationships….”
That.
Also (*spoilers*), this isn’t apparent so much in the first book or in the movie, but one of the things I like best about the Hunger Games is how hard it is for Katniss to cope with all of the violence she witnessed and participated in after the fact. IMO, this is a much more realistic portrayal of how people–men and women–deal with violence and war than what most mainstream entertainment offers. After the Hunger Games, Katniss is in psychologically rough shape – not so much the “goooo gurrrrl powerrr!” you see in other movies with women in leading action-y roles. And the same is true for the other past victors we meet in the second and third books, male or female. There is a very clear message in that the Capitol first forcing these kids to fight and then forcing them to mentor future kids who are most likely going in to fight to the death, year after year, is abusive and hurts people. The Hunger Games actually glorifies violence less then the majority of action movies Hollywood produces.
Which is all sort of beyond the point, because as Holly mentioned, I’m pretty sure girls aren’t going to discover violence from the Hunger Games. Also, god forbid they are encouraged to be less traditionally feminine.
Remember when Japanese girls became violent and unfeminine due to Battle Royale? Yeah, me neither.
Wow, way to miss every singe point in the movie and books. That level of point-missage is frankly quite impressive.
So like if all the girl tributes had just huddled in a group waiting for death, the MRAs would have gone ballistic over white knighting and chivalry and women using their power to throw away mens lives.
Also, what about all those many many movies where men are violent? Anyone?? Does watching 300 make men feral or something?
Anyone who thinks preteen girls need to be taught how to be violent has clearly never grown up with preteen girls
They don’t have a problem with violence, they only have a problem if it’s the oppressed doing it rather than the privileged. It’s not the violence that’s objectionable to them, its that it is from girls and people of color and the poor, who they expect to instead be on the receiving end of violence without fighting back.
Pillow, don’t you see men are supposed to be feral naturally? Violence in guy movies is GOOD!
Lauralot, oh right, and then of course, if I was properly feminine, I wouldn’t know enough about life to call them on it or I’d think its just something that can’t be helped if I was capable of noticing at all. Hard to look around when you’re scrubbing a tub full of laundry and minding children.
They better get used to being called slavering beasts then whilst I try to “improve” my ways.
Pillowinhell, to be fair, 300 was rated R I believe and not really necessarily geared toward the teen age audience. The Hunger Games obviously is. The thing is though, even though it’s a horrifically violent story, I felt like both the movies and the books did a good job of focusing on how much damage the violence does to everybody, even if you do make it out alive, or don’t even have to go in in the first place.
300 actually encourages violence a lot more IMHO because it’s all “MUST FIGHT! HONOR AND GLORY!!!!111eleventy!!” The Hunger Games at least makes a point of displaying just how horrifying and damaging it can be, not just to be on the receiving end of violence, but to be the one who is violent.
But, you know, dudes were fighting in the 300 so like, of course it’s honorable and shit that way. Or something.
He clearly has some kind of buzzword finding software that told him “Hunger Games” is a hot phrase in the social media sphere and then picked something excessively controversial to write. It must be the blogging equivalent of “ratings sweeps month” wherever his paycheck comes from.
I am afraid that the Hunger Games will make me violently ill. Handheld cameras = NO. I had to walk out of Public Enemies halfway through, and then was sick forever.
(Then the next day I held up a bank, but I think that was just a coincidence.)
@theLaplaceDemon- Thank you for making this point. This was, perhaps, the first YA book that I’ve read that integrates psychological trauma and PTSD into the plot, and I really really appreciated it. I just hope that they include it in the second and third movies.
Your sad religion had a big hit, congratulations. +1 for bigots.
In other news, the supreme court appears ready to strike down Obamacare. +1 for MRAs.
To Zarat: Yeah! Fuck the sick and the poor!
Seriously, you’re an ass.
Ladies and gentleman, every Antz post ever:
Bigots sad religion FOREIGN BRIDE virtual reality Mississippi divide.
Antz, you no longer need to return to this site. We’ll just copy and paste that into every new thread. You’re welcome.
For full effect, imagine Antz dressed as Snidely Whiplash and speaking like the Soup Nazi as you read that.
lauralot, I do believe you just won Antz edition bing!.
What in the actual hell You had nothing to do with that, and it hurts you even if you did. What happened to all that concern over prostate cancer?
Ostara, the kids may not have watched it in theaters, but they didn’t have to wait long to get a copy. And I know a lot of parents who wouldn’t have had any touble letting their kids watch it. You’re right in that the comparison I made is off, but kids are exposed to graphic violence everywhere on a daily basis and that includes girls.
sorry, i meant “bingo.”
“What happened to all that concern over prostate cancer?”
Not covered. Unlike breast health. And MRAs were the first to point out that Obamacare is the greatest act of government discrimination since Jim Crow, and the greatest act of Federal discrimination since the civil war.
0/10 Antz, 0/10
Geez, at least NWO has that car crash appeal.
You’re just bland.
Antz, there’s no need to respond to posts either. I can just copy and paste the master post after someone makes a post directed at you.
So if lots of men suffer and die from lack of healthcare, it’ll be an MRA win because at least women will suffer more?
…Yeah, that sounds like MRAs.
Holly, don’t fall into his trap! You lose if you show any emotion other than smug apathy.
Looks like my article exposing the sexism of Obamacare came out just in time:
http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/feminist-lies-feminism/feminist-lie-3468-obamacare/
Antz, I don’t think you understand the point of my master post.
Dr. Ablow warns us against the Hunger Games movie because it is, uh,
You know how many movies get made today would have to be denounced on similar charges in order for this to not be blatant hypocrisy? Yeah, pretty much almost all of them. The rest of his rant doesn’t even make sense, is not on topic and very poorly structured.
I mean, what the hell do the Kardashians or Snooki have to do with the Hunger Games?
I knew that Dr. Ablow is a complete and utter delta-bravo, and a raging transphobe to boot, as well as homophobic I’m sure, but I’ve seen less evidence of that as of his transphobia. But I never did know he was a misogynist too.
Katniss is one of the better role models for girls and young women out there imo; at least she models self-sufficiency and independence, smarts, skills, strong will, common sense…need I go on?
And before I forget: Go see the movie (if you haven’t) it’s worth it, especially if you’re a fan of the books.
Love from,
Morgan, the slut feminist
Antz, go masturbate somewhere else.
Also, I don’t understand, does Ablow think hating the Kardashians is a good thing or a bad thing?
Morgan, do you mind if I start using delta bravo? I get untold numbers of them some days…like the guy who tried flushing an entire can of halved peaches and caused a flood in the apartment below, which caused the plaster to fall which landed on someones head….and its not the first flood this guy has started…
MRAs are so powerful! They strike down Obamacare, they strike down VAWA! My cereal went soggy awfully fast this morning… AntZ, was that you??
@Derpwood
No can do. I am on probation at TGMP (won’t last long). Back home to mama.
Speaking of TGMP, I am sorry I missed the opportunity to deliver a knockout punch when the boob king took on Typhon. I was dropping stink bombs elsewhere, and I missed that outrage. I am kicking myself for that. Typhon deserves better from the MRM attack dog.
Bigots sad religion FOREIGN BRIDE virtual reality Mississippi divide.
And it even rhymes. I’ll just imagine AntZ rapping that.
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!! This dude can’t be for real, Are we sure AntZ isn’t a performance artist, or a 10 year old?
Haha, “knockout punch.”
Not every time you flail your fists around at random is a punch, dude. Never even mind “knockout.”
At least you know you’re dropping stink bombs, Antz. I guess that’s something.
Go play with your FOREIGN BRIDE, mkay?
Yeah, all those “friends” of Typhons. And not one could spare a moment to defend her.
Maybe they were worried about damage to their credibility for white knighting.
Hey Antz, she’s a big girl with privilege so why does she need you to stand up and defend her? I mean really, she should be taking responsibility for her own life right?
Quoted for truth.
In other news, there have been quite a few years ever since the 1950s, Dr. Ablow. The kind of girls who would dismiss the female protagonist of a movie as “not a real girl” for being violent are likely few and far between these days. I’m just saying this because I think he may not know.
HAHAHA okay I just got the “medical A-Team” thing. I can’t wait to see all their other A-Teams. Bluster, Propaganda, Flag-Fellating, etc., these A-Teams all have something to contribute.
Puerile and ineffective; that fits you.
Is being prone to delusions of grandeur necessary to be an MRA, or merely helpful?
Abject lies. It falls under general health, you idiot. We’ve been over this with you before, and you continue to lie like a cheap rug.
Wait, so someone hijacked a GMP thread to complain about my post on TyphonBlue?
Pillowinhell, oh for sure, I didn’t mean that as some kind of proof that kids aren’t exposed to super duper violent shit on a daily basis just that some (dumb) commentators probably figure “well at least that stuff’s only for adults!” even though not all of it is and even if it were, it’s not like it’s hard for kids to get (see also: the internetz).
But yeah, as others have mentioned, the idea that teenage girls don’t already know that violence exists, that they themselves can be violent – pretty stupid to begin with.
Newsflash Antz. Those delicate little wimminz girls didn’t exist so much in the 50’s either. If accounts from women who grew up then are anything to go by.
@David
Nope, I was unaware of your Typhon post because I was distracted by other goings on at TGMP. They put me on admin over there, so I came here and found out, to my dismay, that you have been a naughty boy behind my back.
If Faux News existed 200 years ago…
Breaking News!!! According to Faux News Doctors Recent Opera Fidelio Will Make Teen Girls Violent and Unfeminine!
Just recently devil-worshipping revolutionary composer Ludwig van Beethoven premiered his new feminist opera Fidelio. Renowned blood-letter and phrenologist Dr. Kieth Ablow gives his diagnosis:
Popular counter-revolutionary Christian J. weighs in with his insights:
I just got out of music class. I had to make this kind of of joke. ;)
Is this man related to Meller? Now that I think about it, Fox News might be the perfect place for him.
I’m actually surprised that it’s taken this long for the conservative and MRA types to discover THG. It’s almost perfectly designed to piss them off, what with the idea that the strong oppressing the weak is bad, a strong and smart female protagonist who’s not fluffy at all, and the truly shocking idea that adults don’t own children. Just wait till they get to the stuff about some of the winners being forced into prostitution, then the MRM will really lose their collective shit (or be very confused, since it’s the boys too).
I wonder if all the conservative talking heads realize that if they have teen/tween kids then the kids have probably already read the books.
The Rue racist bullshit, and now that? Now, I really want to see this movie, even though it’s the adaptation of a best seller.
I think i might be becoming a hipster, guys.