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If Rush Limbaugh could draw cartoons …

Oy, Sorry for more Rush Limbaugh-related crap, but this cartoon, by Gary McCoy, was just too appalling not to post.

I’m not even going to get into the slut-shaming, or that the cartoonist is bizarrely trying to fat-shame someone who is not actually fat, but I would like to point out once again that WE’RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE GOVERNMENT PROVIDING FREE BIRTH CONTROL (even though that sounds like a nifty idea to me). We’re talking about INSURANCE COMPANIES COVERING BIRTH CONTROL LIKE THEY COVER OTHER MEDICAL EXPENSES. You know about insurance, right? That thing that people PAY FOR THEMSELVES, with THEIR OWN MONEY?

Are Rush and his fans really so ignorant and obtuse that they’ve somehow convinced themselves that this is about the government paying for birth control? Or are they deliberately misrepresenting the issue, knowing that most of their readers/listeners/whatever won’t bother to check the facts?

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Snowy
Snowy
8 years ago

My money is on deliberately misrepresenting the issue. Nobody could be that dumb.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
8 years ago

Oh hey, more Limbaugh stuffs! I found this also: (source)

Rush Limbaugh opened his syndicated radio show on Monday by reiterating the weekend apology he had made to Sandra Fluke, the Georgetown law student whom the outspoken host had called a “slut” and “prostitute” for her testimony about contraception the week before.

“I descended to [the left’s] level when I used those two words to describe Sandra Fluke,” Limbaugh said. “I’ve always tried to maintain a very high degree of integrity and independence on this program. Nevertheless, those two words were inappropriate. They were uncalled for. They distracted from the point that I was actually trying to make, and I again sincerely apologize to Ms. Fluke for using those two words to describe her. I do not think she is either of those two words. I did not think last week that she is either of those two words.”

So yeah, those words were totally wrong to use, but it’s all ok! He was just doing what the left does all the time, so really the Left is to blame! How many forms of not-pology can one guy possibly do?

Crumbelievable
Crumbelievable
8 years ago

“I’ve always tried to maintain a very high degree of integrity and independence on this program.”

Haha, that was a good one! Tell me another!

Steph
8 years ago

I was surprised to see this mentioned in the papers at all — “Rush Limbaugh says something stupid and offensive” isn’t even a “dog bites man” story. It’s a “dog breathes air” story.

Xanthe
Xanthe
8 years ago

Snowy, yes. It’s trying to gaslight the issue in effect by shifting what is actually at stake.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
8 years ago

I could have sworn that “well, I’m just sinking to there level” was never a valid excuse to do shitty things. Reminds me of someone I know, who tends to try to turn around any conversation about zir faults with “well, nobody’s perfect, and oh by the way look at all the things that are wrong with you!”

Them’s abuser mentalities, Rush.

Kyrie
Kyrie
8 years ago

So, how about the Viagra? How is that not paying men to have sex, increasing the need for contraception. Not having an erection is not exactly known to bring dozens of years of consequences. Isn’t that a huge enormous double standard?

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth

I’ve always tried to maintain a very high degree of integrity and independence on this program.

Of course you have Rush. And have means never ever in this case.

hellkell
hellkell
8 years ago

I fucking wish we had single payer healthcare here.

FelixBC
FelixBC
8 years ago

This is so depressing. Fluke sounds like an amazing woman, smart, articulate, grace under fire. And this is how they take her down–fat- and slut-shaming. And economic shaming, too, as one blogger pointed out. It’s not the rich women who can cover any costs they like that have their coverage at stake. And men, why, they don’t enter the picture at all. No man has ever not wanted to get a woman pregnant.

FelixBC
FelixBC
8 years ago

I’m going to light a little candle to Tommy Douglas tonight. Hurrah for single-payer healthcare.

kiki
kiki
8 years ago

Are Rush and his fans really so ignorant and obtuse that they’ve somehow convinced themselves that this is about the government paying for birth control? Or are they deliberately misrepresenting the issue, knowing that most of their readers/listeners/whatever won’t bother to check the facts?

A little from column A, a little from column B…

The cartoon reminds me of an old one-page strip by Kyle Baker called ‘Right-Wing Cartooning’.

‘God damn women drivers! Pisses me off! Saaaay — that gives me a swell idea for a cartoon!

‘God damn hippies! Get a freakin’ job! Saaaay — that gives me a swell idea for a cartoon!

etc.

Morgan
Morgan
8 years ago

I agree with Snowy, but at the same time, people like Limbaugh are showing us that people are, in fact, exactly that dumb.

When I first saw the cartoon, I assumed that the figure was, somehow and weirdly, representative of the female population on the Georgetown campus, until I recognized the hairstyle as being similar enough as to be a caricature of Ms. Fluke, which means that in addition to the slut shaming and fat shaming in that “picture” we can add ageism to the list of idiotic, irresponsible choices the artist made, and for what gain?

The artist brings down the political cartoon by several notches. There are so many wonderful, truly hilarious political satirists out there.

Halite
8 years ago

I’m going to light a little candle to Tommy Douglas tonight. Hurrah for single-payer healthcare.

I’m in Saskatoon for work at the moment, and there’s tonnes of public art dedicated to him around here. I’m so tempted to take your advice and light some candles. The green-and-yellow painting on the back of the electricity box I saw this morning down town seems like it would be a good venue.

I’m never more happy to be a Canadian than when I read about the apalling things folks have to go through in other places to access things that I think are a basic human right.

Also that cartoon is abhorrent in every conceiveable way. *shudder* I

valerienorth
valerienorth
8 years ago

@Kyrie- You’re right on the money. If men need or want something, somehow the money is found. New sports stadium, there’s money. Viagra, there’s money. Vasectomies, there’s money. There’s all the money in the world for the interests of men, not so much for women. If I were paranoid, I’d think there was some conspiracy going on. oh, wait…

It’s too bad I can’t get my scrap booking subsidized by the government.

karmarad
karmarad
8 years ago

It would be good to start naming the disinformation tactics Limbaugh and his allies are using, all straight outta Orwell. This Big Lie is especially monstrous: she’s fat n ugly,she’s got a personal beef, she’s not paying for her health insurance, she’s looking for a free payment, her skirt is so short, we know she is having a lot of sex.

And none of it has any connection with reality. But if Limbaugh keeps saying it, it will seem like truth.

I’m trying hard to find the humor here. I really want to mock. I need help.

Buttman
Buttman
8 years ago

Look at the shirt. It says “Georgetown”. A Catholic school.

She wants a Catholic Uni to morally and financially support premarital sex, birth control, and abortion. That’s what this is about. She wants her choice but when it comes to a private institution or business owner she wants to leave them no choice.

felixBC
felixBC
8 years ago

@karmarad I’m with you one this one. No humour to be found, not a drop.

Kigeko
8 years ago

“Or are they deliberately misrepresenting the issue, knowing that most of their readers/listeners/whatever won’t bother to check the facts?”

I think you may have answered your own question there, as in my own personal experience with dealing with people of this mentality where FOX news is God. Everything they say must be true (because they say everything they say is true) why fact check? What on earth would good, “god-fearing Christians” lie like this for?

Surely not because they have a misleading agenda to convince you that anything revolutionary is the work of the devil, or a president who has nothing better to do than work to destroy a country he’s served for years?

That’s clearly speculation though. Not intended to be a factual statement.

darksidecat
8 years ago

Fine, Buttman, but only if we enforce a Solomon Amendment type situation on all private schools that discriminate in any way. They (and their students) can’t collect federal or state financial aide, they can’t collect federal or state research or other grants. Oh, yes, if they want nothing to do with the government and social standards, they need to stop accepting tax funded programs going towards their tuition, fees, or other income.

zha3ngpei3man
8 years ago

Buttman:

http://grad.georgetown.edu/pages/graduate_funding_for_min.cfm

And this is only the outside funding for disadvantaged people.

Private how?

Do you like female butts? Is that why you call yourself Buttman?

Just wondering.

blitzgal
8 years ago

She wants a Catholic Uni to morally and financially support premarital sex, birth control, and abortion. That’s what this is about. She wants her choice but when it comes to a private institution or business owner she wants to leave them no choice.

Wrong.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/white-house-to-announce-adjustment-to-birth-control-rule/2012/02/10/gIQArbFy3Q_story.html

What’s most telling is that even after this compromise, the Catholic bishops still aren’t okay with it. Because it isn’t actually about religious freedom to them. It’s about punishing the slutty sluts for their sex-having. And Republicans tried to take it a step farther by pushing an amendment (to a highway bill!) that would allow ANY employer to deny coverage of ANY medical service that it deemed morally objectionable. Which of course lead the Obama campaign to post the following image to their Tumblr:

http://barackobama.tumblr.com/post/18551756110/if-mitt-romney-and-a-few-republican-senators-get

Does Georgetown cover Viagra? Does it cover vasectomies?

BoggiDWurms
BoggiDWurms
8 years ago

My money is on deliberately misrepresenting the issue. Nobody could be that dumb.

Yes they can.

Holly Pervocracy
8 years ago

They’re also portraying as hypocrisy something that’s totally consistent–women should be able to decide if they get abortions, and women should be able to decide if they get birth control.

Crumbelievable
Crumbelievable
8 years ago

“She wants a Catholic Uni to morally and financially support premarital sex, birth control, and abortion. That’s what this is about.”

Or it’s about how her lesbian friend, y’know, someone not engaging in PIV sex, couldn’t afford the pills she needed to take care of ovarian cysts. Or that.

LexieDi
LexieDi
8 years ago

So… other than it being sexist and dumb…

But in that first panel… is her left leg even attached to her hip?! Escher girl, much?

BoggiDWurms
BoggiDWurms
8 years ago

It didn’t know Buttman was a Faux News sheep. A fine MRA you are, Buttman.

Nanasha
Nanasha
8 years ago

To be fair, it *IS* true that Planned Parenthood and other “family planning” programs in CA (I think it’s state-based, not federal, though) will give very poor people low or no-cost birth control options (I myself got birth control pills at no cost for years as a poor starving student while I was in college but not covered on my parent’s health insurance due to being over 18 and this being before they signed that law allowing young people to stay on their parents health insurance until 24).

However, all abortion services were COMPLETELY paid for by the person getting said abortion, regardless of your poorness, as a friend of mine found out firsthand when she had to get an abortion for medical reasons.

But I personally think it’s bullshit to go on against birth control pills or other such things, especially when they’re going to the most needy and least-needing-to-get-pregnant people. And if we ALL pay taxes, then I guess that, hey, I *did* pay for all those pills albeit indirectly. We don’t get to choose which taxes to pay and which not to pay. It’s all or nothing. I don’t like portions of my taxes going towards BIG FARMING and BIG PHARMA or subsidies towards all number of private companies that then screw us over a second time by charging us outrageous amounts of money for their goods and services, and yet, it’s taxes and I pay them.

Anyone who wants to bitch and complain that they don’t like the way their taxes are being spent needs to either VOTE against said tax initiatives being passed (as most are put up to vote byt the average person) or they need to start lobbying and creating legislation to change things. Anything else is blowing hot crappy fartsmoke out of one’s ass, and I don’t have the stomach to put up with the smell.

grinner
grinner
8 years ago

I’m still astounded that there exists a debate over how much people have to pay for various medical costs IN ADDITION to their monthly payment for health insurance, which may or may not be more than the cost of the treatment/service they are looking to obtain…

No, Buttman, she’s not looking to have the government pay for birth control, she wants her insurance company to pay for it. Right now, the company only pays a part of it, and in all likelihood she pays more in monthly costs for insurance than the cost of the birth control.

George Carlin has (I still refuse to admit he’s dead :p) a sketch where he says that being “Pro-life is Anti-Woman!” as refusing healthcare treatments, especially medically necessary ones, can and does kill women, who in turn cannot have any more children… if you want women to have lots of children, allow them to get abortions when they need them. If you don’t want women to have abortions very often, let the have access to birth control so they are less likely to have those unwanted pregnancies in the first place.

Nanasha
Nanasha
8 years ago

There is more than one way to make a person into a slave, and if you make them slaves to their biology, it makes them unable to look beyond their own immediate problems.

Just imagine what it was like when both men and women were held hostage in the tyranny of forced marriage and a gazillion children. Just imagine how hard it would be to, say, fight against inequality from the rich or fight against injustice done from the rich to the poor when you have 10 mouths to feed and the heirarchy of your life is set up so that the man is the automatic Dictator of Familytopia who can rape and beat his wife as much as he pleases, turn her into his own special slut/whore scapegoat and by god SHE NEEDS HIM and must therefore acquiesce to this treatment.

When each man is pushed into a situation where each woman becomes his slave, he becomes less concerned about who is enslaving HIM. Many of these shitheads are simply trying to enact a heirarchical structure that is aided by biological function (multiple pregnancies without birth control options) that will cut out the voices of 50% of the population (women) and silence the majority of the poor men (as they will be given a convenient direct scapegoat for all their problems- women) and then a ton of children that they will both be forced into economic and physical slavery to take care of so that they will never be able to think of anything beyond their own nuculur Familytopia.

I’m not saying that heterosexual relationships are somehow wrong and bad, but the way that many of these anti-birth control zealots believe- the majority of their plan revolves around taking any and every choice away from the individual- trapping them in their biology, in stilted “traditional roles” that are mandatory instead of chosen, and then using these prisons to control the majority of the population even more than they already do.

Of course, maybe they’re just idiots. But I’d have to say that I’ve spent too much time watching these shenanigans going on to think that it’s all just harmless fluff.

grinner
grinner
8 years ago

So here’s the video I was talking about: (warning, George Carlin. NSFW Swearing, some parts may be offensive to you, I tried to mention the relevant parts)
http://youtu.be/AvF1Q3UidWM

up until 1:50 or so he talks about abortion, then again around 3:15-6:50 is the rest of his stuff on abortion, but really the whole video is great (including Chickens being decent people)

eli
eli
8 years ago

Or are they deliberately misrepresenting the issue, knowing that most of their readers/listeners/whatever won’t bother to check the facts?

Hey, everyone knows “facts” have a liberal bias. The readers/listeners won’t believe the facts because Rush has told them that all of the factual sources are full of lies and propaganda. And the whole government thing acts as a smokescreen. Once those fans hear the word “government,” they lose access to their higher cognitive processing centers.

Fun fact: About 20ish years ago, I was channel surfing late at night and stumbled on the weirdest talk show. There was this blowhard-type guy sitting at a desk like on all the normal Carson/Letterman/Leno shows, but all this dude did was rant about feminazis and the government. I thought he was the funniest damn thing I’d ever seen and started watching the show whenever I was up late because I thought it was comedy. Nobody could be THAT ignorant. Then he became extremely famous and it was only then I realized it wasn’t an act. Oops.

BrianX
BrianX
8 years ago

Crumbelievable:

That is not relevant. By emphasizing that point, you’re contributing to the slut-shaming.

Quackers
Quackers
8 years ago

@blitzgal

please oh please tell me that second image is a fake. I hate republicans so much, they are controlling, evil people.

but to lighten the mood a bit, this is relevant…I should have posted it on the first post about Limbaugh

Shadow
Shadow
8 years ago

@Brian X

Not that I don’t see where you’re coming from, but I think the other side to the issue is that, by concentrating on whether or not there’s a moral issue involved here (not that combating slut shaming isn’t important and necessary), the fact that there are medical needs for hormonal BC tends to get shunted to the side. Therefore issues like women needing BC for things like ovarian cysts tends to be absent from the discourse because of the conservative slut witch hunt.

thebewilderness
thebewilderness
8 years ago

That’s right buttbrain. When she buys insurance she expects to get what she pays for, just like the boys do. Somehow women buying insurance that covers viagra and not birth control simply does not make sense for those of us who do not suffer from buttbrain.

Kyn
Kyn
8 years ago

So the cartoon is implying that free birth control should be provided by the government to anti-choice advocates? Or that abortions should be available, but only to people who deliberately eschew all other forms of birth control?

I mean, I get that the cartoonist is trying to portray feminists and/or Honorary Strawfeminist Sandra Fluke as hypocrites, but it doesn’t work, even a little bit. Like, not even without any of that pesky “what she actually said” context — there’s not even a rudimentary zing there.

grinner
grinner
8 years ago

@Kyn

I think the zing is supposed to do with how she looks? Or the fact that she wants control over her body and choice in her bc? I dunno, the first seems to make more troll sense, while the second isn’t a zing…

zha3ngpei3man
8 years ago

The cartoon implies that women should have no say regarding birth control, as they only use it to slut around. It’s bizarre. What about married women trying to plan their families? This class of men has to, has to, control women’s fertility. The reasons are thousands of years old.What would it be like if they were forced to lay off? This is what keeps me going, this idea that women could plan their families, make sure they could feed the new baby, retain their health.

burgundy
burgundy
8 years ago

Ugh. Did this cartoonist not learn anything from the Limbaugh blow-back? There are two separate ideas here, one of which is factually wrong and one of which is morally reprehensible. The factually wrong one is the “government paying for contraception” thing. The morally reprehensible one is the idea that if the government does pay for your contraception, then the government basically owns a share in your reproductive system. Which is why it’s hypocritical to protest restrictions on abortion by saying “get your laws off my body” because hey, your body is public property now, right? It’s the same justification as Rush’s “make some porn for me” demand. You might as well say that anyone who receives Medicaid should be forced to donate blood, bone marrow, and a kidney, because their bodies are public property now.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
8 years ago

Ok, here’s what I really don’t get about the health care debate… The mandate requires religiously-affiliated health-care providers to provide birth control.

Two sets of providers, religious and secular. The secular ones will provide birth control anyway to everyone who wants it, and the religious ones wouldn’t. Anybody covered by a religiously-affiliated health-care plan would therefore have an inferior service to those who are covered by the secular ones. Anybody interested in birth-control would therefore try to be covered by secular providers.

BUT!!! Not everyone has this choice; some people, due to their situation, can only be covered by the religious providers. The debate is thus those people’s rights to the same level of health care and the desires of the provider.

If there is to be a debate, it should be whether birth control should be covered by insurance at all. Giving religious organizations an exemption from providing certain services that were judged to be worthwhile to provide makes the religious option inferior to the secular one, and some people don’t have the choice to take the latter.

katz
8 years ago

You might as well say that anyone who receives Medicaid should be forced to donate blood, bone marrow, and a kidney, because their bodies are public property now.

Oh God, don’t even say it.

Helen
8 years ago

God bless you David.
I thought our misogynists were quite dire but we don’t have the same level of right wing shock jocks (although they try on TalkSport)
And contraception is free-apart from condoms (misandry)
Please keep up the good work

blitzgal
8 years ago

please oh please tell me that second image is a fake. I hate republicans so much, they are controlling, evil people.

That was their illustration of the logical conclusion of the Blunt amendment, which would allow any employer (not just religious ones) the right to deny coverage of any medical service that they deem is morally objectionable.

cendare
8 years ago

…because the best thing, for the economy right now, would be to have, let’s say, 25% of the workforce get pregnant and go home and raise kids. That wouldn’t affect overall productivity, at all. (/sarcasm) I mean, besides the gross human rights aspect, and the moral aspect, and everything.

Also, if I personally got pregnant, I’d probably have to get divorced, as Mr Cendare informed me early on in our relationship that he’s 110% certain he doesn’t want kids. Thanks, right-wingers, for creating a single mother and ruining two people’s financial stability!

Creative Writing Student
Creative Writing Student
8 years ago

Also, if I personally got pregnant, I’d probably have to get divorced, as Mr Cendare informed me early on in our relationship that he’s 110% certain he doesn’t want kids. Thanks, right-wingers, for creating a single mother and ruining two people’s financial stability!

Is it just me, or are all these “traditional family values” people hellbent on creating horrifically dysfunctional families which have the veneer of 50’s nuclear fluffiness?

Buttman
Buttman
8 years ago

zha3ngpei3man: Are you trying to aggravate my ulcer? What was the point of linking to a webpage that shows that women are clearly favoured in Higher Education as they are in other realms of education.

Another point that is missed in this debate is that women are clearly favoured in health care. The majority of health care spending is for women. There are special government agencies created for women’s health but none for MEN.

Buttman
Buttman
8 years ago

WadeBoggs: I don’t even get Fox News. The only time I see it when businesses leave it on. It must be good if it drives you crazy.

blitzgal
8 years ago

The cartoon implies that women should have no say regarding birth control, as they only use it to slut around. It’s bizarre. What about married women trying to plan their families? This class of men has to, has to, control women’s fertility.

This is the aspect that they conveniently ignore as they continue to pretend that it’s only 20 year old sluts who are on birth control. Nearly all American women have used birth control, including 95% of Catholic women. Married heterosexual women rely on birth control, because without it their only choices are to either never have sex with their husbands or to be constantly pregnant and have a dozen children.

And that, my friends, is the crux of the issue. Social conservatives have been stewing about birth control for the past fifty years. To them, there is nothing more frightening than a woman with control over her own biology. They WANT women to be enslaved to their own bodies. They freak out at the idea of a woman with agency who can live on her own, choose to not get married, and support herself.

Buttman
Buttman
8 years ago

“Also, if I personally got pregnant, I’d probably have to get divorced, as Mr Cendare informed me early on in our relationship that he’s 110% certain he doesn’t want kids. Thanks, right-wingers, for creating a single mother and ruining two people’s financial stability!”

Maybe he should get a vasectomy instead of paying thousands of dollars in birth control pills. He is setting himself up for disaster when you get baby rabies. And left-wingers created the single mother industry. It wasn’t an unintended effect of the welfare state. It was intentional destruction.

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