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Attention feminists: Rush Limbaugh wants to watch you having sex.

Sometimes Rush gets a little overexcited

You may recall that  all-dude panel of “experts” at that recent congressional hearing on contraception. One of the reasons it was an all-dude panel was that congressional Republicans wouldn’t let Georgetown law student Sandra Fluke testify on the costs of birth control. (She later testified at a separate hearing held by Nancy Pelosi.)

Apparently stating publicly how much contraception costs when it’s not covered by insurance is basically the equivalent of pooping on the flag to some misogynistic assholes, among them the always charming Rush Limbaugh, who has denounced Fluke as a “slut” and a whore, saying, at one point, that she

went before a Congressional committee and said she’s having so much sex she’s going broke buying contraceptives and wants us to buy them.

Actually, she didn’t testify about her own experience at all.

Also, does Limbaugh even know how contraception works? Yes, the number of condoms one buys depends on how often you have sex. (Or at the very least how often you hope to have sex. Who knows how many boxes of condoms, purchased in moments of optimism, have quietly expired on the shelf waiting for their purchasers to finally get their mojo working. )

But the costs of many other forms of contraception have no relation whatsoever to the frequency of sex. Women on “the pill” take a pill every day, regardless of whether they are having sex that day or not. Women using IUDs don’t run down to the health center to have one installed every time their vagina expects a visitor.

Birth control, in short, doesn’t work like Oxycontin or Viagra, the two pills about which Limbaugh seems most knowledgeable.

Sorry to belabor the obvious, which apparently isn’t so obvious if you’re a right-wing, woman-hating asshole.

Anyway, now Limbaugh seems to think he’s entitled to watch Fluke having sex:

So Miss Fluke, and the rest of you Feminazis, here’s the deal. If we are going to pay for your contraceptives, and thus pay for you to have sex. We want something for it. … We want you post the videos online so we can all watch.

Dude, what the fuck is wrong with you?

Here’s the excerpt from his radio show in which he makes this creepy demand.

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Rutee Katreya
8 years ago

You think antifeminists earning more validates your position somehow? What crackpot breed of logic is this?

katz
8 years ago

IR/FF, you know that nobody talks about being Aryan except neo-Nazis, don’t you?

katz
8 years ago

You talk about your superior feminist intelligence a lot, by the way.

Dude, you’re the one with the gleaming opulent horse. Someone calling you dumb isn’t touting their own intellect–they’re just saying you’re dumb*.

*(Sorry for the potentially ableist language.)

BlackBloc
BlackBloc
8 years ago

They just published a study that shows that the richer you are, the less ethical you are. Ergo, anti-feminists earn more. 😉

IdeologueReview
8 years ago

You think antifeminists earning more validates your position somehow? What crackpot breed of logic is this?
Feminist position: Antifeminists are more likely to be virgins and virgins are bad.
Why it is invalid:
1. There is no impartial research to suggest this is the case.
2. What research there is suggests that the contrary of the first argument is true because:
a. Male feminists earn less
b. Women are more likely to date rich men

Based on the current evidence, the claim that antifeminists are more likely to be virgins is false. 🙂

Rutee Katreya
8 years ago

Feminist position: Antifeminists are more likely to be virgins and virgins are bad.

Statement assumes facts not in evidence. AFAIK, this is only said about MRAs, not antifeminists on the whole.

…Oh that’s cute, did you think you’re the real force of antifeminism?

hellkell
hellkell
8 years ago

What the fuck? You really are dumb, FF.

I’ve never heard a feminist say virgins are bad.

IdeologueReview
8 years ago

I’ve never heard a feminist say virgins are bad.
You have, you just repress it.

Rutee Katreya
8 years ago

Oh it’s probably happened more than once; there’s a lot of feminists, after all. But I think he’s confusing those of us who talk about MRAs’ desperate desire for sex they’ve never had with run of the mill virgins.

Shadow
Shadow
8 years ago

Based on the current evidence, the claim that antifeminists are more likely to be virgins is false.

Well done old chap. Now, if you could just find where anyone here (or even in the wider feminist community) made this claim I’ll get right to grooming that horse for you. I mean, that’s almost as stupid as thinking there’s some army of lifelong incels out there.

Rutee Katreya
8 years ago

I like how his example is directly in response to antifeminists doing the same thing, but more than that, that he considers Cracked a particularly feminist thing XD

katz
8 years ago

IR/FF, how do you expect us to take anything you say seriously after the Aryan horse remark?

IdeologueReview
8 years ago

Oh, oh, I get it now! So you don’t actually hate virgins, you just think they should suck up and take some collateral damage if it suits your agenda. That’s what you’ve been babbling about this whole time and you are just trying to phrase it more delicately. That actually explains quite a bit.

hellkell
hellkell
8 years ago

Cracked is SERIOUS FEMINIST SCHOLARSHIP, YO.

Shadow
Shadow
8 years ago

Yeah, I don’t doubt that there are feminists who look down on virgins. What I do doubt is that feminists claimed that antifeminists, as a group, don’t get laid because that requires a permanent vacation from reality, not to mention a complete ignorance of any feminist works.

hellkell
hellkell
8 years ago

FF/IR, no one here but you seems to give a fuck about virgins.

Shadow
Shadow
8 years ago

That actually explains quite a bit.

LOLLL

IdeologueReview
8 years ago

considers Cracked a particularly feminist thing
No, just the writer. Cracked is a humor site rather than an indoctrination site, which is why the author’s feminist propaganda was so poorly received. To be fair about every fourth or fifth comment was supportive, but then many of those were posted from accounts which had been registered after the article was written. My favorite quote:
*Thud!* The sound of my feminist panties falling after reading your article.

Rutee Katreya
8 years ago

Oh, oh, I get it now! So you don’t actually hate virgins, you just think they should suck up and take some collateral damage if it suits your agenda.

Yeah if treating women like people prevents you from getting laid I’m perfectly happy with that ‘collateral damage’.

I mean, you do realize that “You’re just doing this to get laid” is basically the same sort of thing, right? Why doesn’t that bother you half as much as some dude continuing the virgin shaming that is a big part of dude culture in general? Also, if “Virgins are bad” was a feminist addition to patriarchy, wouldn’t it, you know, include female virgins? XD

katz
8 years ago

IR/FF, do you consider Prego Punchout a humor game or an indoctrination game?

IdeologueReview
8 years ago

Why doesn’t that bother you half as much as some dude continuing the virgin shaming that is a big part of dude culture in general?
It does bother me, but not as much as when you feminists do it. It’s kind of like when a black person calls me “n***er” – it bothers me, but not as much as if someone else did it.

Holly Pervocracy
8 years ago

I think it would help if IR understood that “feminist” isn’t, like, a species, or even a political party, but a person who holds a particular opinion.

I’m not responsible for every word out of the mouths of everyone who believes in women’s equality, any more than I’m going to answer for everything ever said by someone who likes cheese.

IdeologueReview
8 years ago

I’m not responsible for every word out of the mouths of everyone who believes in men’s equality, any more than I’m going to answer for everything ever said by someone who likes cheese.

Rutee Katreya
8 years ago

It does bother me, but not as much as when you feminists do it.

The sheer irony of this all is making me giggle like mad, yo.

Dude, virgin shaming is a thing because dudes are supposed to get sex from women because that’s a dudely thing to do. It’s patriarchy. That thing you tend to support. I’m annoyed that a feminist is propagating it, sure, but you complaining about it is just precious XD

Rutee Katreya
8 years ago

I’m not responsible for every word out of the mouths of everyone who believes in men’s equality, any more than I’m going to answer for everything ever said by someone who likes cheese.

Said the maker of Preggo Punchout. ‘scuse, that’s wannabe maker of Preggo Punchout.

I mean, men’s equality means men losing out relative to women, because men are advantaged compared to women. So you’re not really for that, and don’t pretend otherwise, but still. You’re not really different.

IdeologueReview
8 years ago

That thing you tend to support.
I actually don’t support “patriarchy” because I think women have as much a responsibility to provide for the families they choose to have and defend the country they live in as men do.
Try to keep your apology brief.

Holly Pervocracy
8 years ago

IR, you have enough to answer for yourself, Mr. Preggo Punchout.

IdeologueReview
8 years ago

I mean, men’s equality means men losing out relative to women, because men are advantaged compared to women.
Yeah, we all know feminism is more about taking from other people than anything else. Thank you for disavowing all that “zero sum game” hogwash and brandishing your true colors.

Rutee Katreya
8 years ago

Uh huh. And that’s why you’re having an endzone dance over antifeminist dudes making more money

You realize this boilerplate shit fools nobody, right? XD

Holly Pervocracy
8 years ago

I actually don’t support “patriarchy” because I think women have as much a responsibility to provide for the families they choose to have and defend the country they live in as men do.

Translation: Giving women limited rights and limited responsibilities isn’t sexist enough for me! Women should have limited rights and all the responsibilities.

…Sort of like how we should be solely responsible for birth control, yet denied access to it…

Rutee Katreya
8 years ago

Yeah, we all know feminism is more about taking from other people than anything else. Thank you for disavowing all that “zero sum game” hogwash and brandishing your true colors.

Equality is not a zero sum game if you’re not Able Whitey McStraighterson III. Only a vanishingly small number of people will lose in total; the upper and middle class able bodied, straight cis white men.

As it happens, when society favors you to the exclusion of all else, equality means society h as to stop favoring you.

Bostonian
8 years ago

Wow, he must really be desperate for hits on his tiny blog.

Rutee Katreya
8 years ago

You mean his superior ‘aryan’ intellect isn’t doing it for everyone else?

ozymandias42
ozymandias42
8 years ago

I actually do think that the end of patriarchy will leave the vast majority of people– MEN AND WOMEN– better off. Look at the previous achievements of feminism: reproductive rights means men also have a reduced fear of a child they don’t want to care for; women’s employment means that straight men don’t have to be able to support a family on one income; feminist legal victories, such as sexual harassment law, recognition of rape and domestic violence, and paternity leave, benefit men as well. Not to mention the benefit of having half the population– men’s friends, family, and lovers– have more and more equal rights and opportunities.

I mean, yes, now married men aren’t issued a wholly owned domestic slave anymore, but I do think the benefits outweigh the cost.

Bostonian
8 years ago

I’m serious about that by the way, he really has no one in the MRM commenting on his blog, and nothing but quotes from this site. The occasional hits from us are his only traffic.

How sad is it when the people you are sucking up to don’t even bother to visit?

ozymandias42
ozymandias42
8 years ago

I just realized that my last sentence could erase the suffering of ACTUAL slaves, about half of whom were female– even in the worst days in which free, married women were considered legally a part of their husbands, their living conditions were often far better than those of slaves, and I don’t mean to deny that with my sloppy use of language.

My kingdom for an edit button.

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

@ Shadow

The solution here is obvious. We need to play Freaky Friday with the trolls. FF wakes up in EN’s life, and EN wakes up in FFs life. Preggo Punchout will suddenly become a lot more trippy and interesting, and FF will perhaps learn that white men are not in fact the most oppressed people on earth. It’s a win/win.

xardoz
8 years ago

Sorry, I just have to deliver a small present of hilarious Mra hypocrisy if IRFF is still lurking.

http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/q84dv/what_is_the_opposite_of_a_white_knight/c3vk2cx

Here’s one of the new /mensrights mods, virgin shaming “white knights.” 😉 Lol, so much for that derail. Want to try again? It so much fun poking holes in your ridiculous bullshit.

katz
8 years ago

IR/FF is one of those people who marches into a space and announces “I’m superior to everyone here!” and expects everyone else to be wowed by his presence. Protip: If everyone thinks you’re a joke, saying that you’re way smarter than them won’t change their minds.

Another protip: If you want to actually appear like an intellectual giant, don’t talk about gleaming Aryan horses.

ApeMan1976
8 years ago

The knowledge that men who believe that men’s only job is to earn money earn more money than men who believe men have other roles besides earning money is shaking the very foundations of my worldview.

I can’t handle it.

Rutee Katreya
8 years ago

Ozy: I’ve heard that before. It might be correct, I don’t know. I also don’t really care. I mean, it’ll be great if it really does help everyone, I guess, but Able Whitey McStraighterson III is too little of the population to keep fretting about his impending loss of primacy.

Holly Pervocracy
8 years ago

I don’t think it’s like Able Whitey McStraighterson III is going to end up in the slums, anyway. He’s just not going to enjoy being on top of the heap. It’s only a relative loss.

Shadow
Shadow
8 years ago

@Cassandra

There’s a sitcom in there somewhere

It does bother me, but not as much as when you feminists do it. It’s kind of like when a black person calls me “n***er” – it bothers me, but not as much as if someone else did it.

Wait, is IR black? If so, was his Aryan comment supposed to be about me?!! The plot keeps on thickening!

CassandraSays
CassandraSays
8 years ago

Not so much thickening as congealing.

Falconer
Falconer
8 years ago

There’s no such thing as an Aryan Race, although the closest to it would be you know, India. Hitler sucked at history. So do you.

The way I understand it, with Madame Blavatsky and the Theosophists, it wasn’t so much “stringently researched and painstakingly supported historical research” as much as “making shit up.” And they were all about the vanished golden age and the ancient societies.

Eastern thought has been cool and sexy in the West since at least the founding of the Theosophists in 1875. I think Hitler and the Nazis grabbed whatever made them look cool, and part of that was vanished Golden Ages. Mussolini was all about restoring the glory of Rome; I think the “Aryan race” thing was the Nazi counterpart. Hell, had the dice fallen out another way, it might have been Atlanteans rather than Aryans.

But still, “the gleaming opulent horse of superior Aryan intellect” is too goddamn funny.

Falconer
Falconer
8 years ago

Which is to say, Nazi Germany waved about the Aryan race as a kind of fetish without regard to actual historical accuracy … which is why they appropriated the name for a group of people in Asia and applied it to their Nordic ideal.

I guess it’s a good thing that no one in the United States today ascribes mystical powers of “being right” to an extinct group in our history….

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth

You know that if you want to violate your employer’s values, they will not compensate you for it.

Employees generally do not have in their contract a “morals clause.” Why? Because that went out the door with the idea that employees are subject to total control by their employers.

In medieval times they drilled into people’s skulls to cure headaches.

Trepanning has been in use for thousands of years. It is still in use today (see Gabby Giffords’ treatment after she was shot.)

Never mind that they only want to determine whether or not to pay for a certain service for the very tiny sliver of people who work for them, you’ve gotta see the big picture here.

It actually is not a tiny slice-the Catholic Church works with a great deal of charities and hospitals. And they are not the only ones who oppose this. So what you are talking about is all of the people who work for these companies are going to be blocked from having birth control. Both men and women will lack access because the employer has an icky feeling when one of their employees does not get knocked up or knocks someone else up when working for them.

That being said, if you think pushing an unsterilized bit of metal into someone’s brain to replace a headache with an open wound more often turns better than worse, be my guest.

It is not a great idea-however the people doing this did not know about things like germs. They still were doing a perfectly valid medical treatment.

I’ve never heard a feminist say virgins are bad.
You have, you just repress it.

That actually does not say what you think it says. Sorry munchkin.

IdeologueReview
8 years ago

It is not a great idea-however the people doing this did not know about things like germs. They still were doing a perfectly valid medical treatment.
I’d say a medical procedure that does harm more than good is not a valid one.
That actually does not say what you think it says.
No, a lot of people agree that it says exactly what I think it says. You can’t just go against the rest of the world and then act all snooty and undignified when we “don’t get it.”
Yeah, you’re poor and lazy and think you’re better than us. We get it, Christ.

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth

Yeah, you’re poor and lazy and think you’re better than us. We get it, Christ.

Well yes, according to the biblical record, Christ was poor.

He was, however, not lazy nor did he believe he was better than anyone else. He did think that you needed to become righteous with the Lord else you would not be in the Kingdom of Heaven.

I’d say a medical procedure that does harm more than good is not a valid one.

If the option is just letting the person die but there may be a chance if one does X, then it is a valid procedure. These were not people schlepping down to the local doc and going “I feel terrible Doc, can you please cut open my skull to cure this confounded headache I have?”

Bostonian
8 years ago

IR/FF is super rich off of the sale of Preggo Punchit!

That makes his points correct. (not really)