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Uteruses Versus Duderuses

Apparently a lot of ladies have these things living in their lady regions.

Today, more insight into the enigma that is ladies. Our topic? The uterus and its discontents. The uterus, for those who  have not heard of it, is a lady organ that ladies who were born ladies have down in their lady regions. It is used for two purposes: making babies, and oppressing men.

Some ladies, you see, like to trick men into giving up their sperm (or to steal it from them without their knowledge). The ladies somehow use this sperm to grow babies in their uteruses — I’m not sure on all the details here — which they then use to extract money  from men. As is well known, it really doesn’t cost anything to raise a child, and the ladies use most of the so-called child-support they get from men to pay for bon bons and Cadillacs.

It gets worse. According to a dude called Joe Zamboni over on The Spearhead, some of these uterus-having ladies are at risk of developing something called Golden Uterus Syndrome, or GUS. First described by Dr. Tara J. Palmatier, Zamboni notes,

Golden Uterus Syndrome (GUS) occurs when a woman thinks she deserves special privileges just because she has given birth to a child. … Supposedly all sorts of things (like a mother not taking a job, and instead staying at home) are for the benefit of the child, when in reality they are simply a cover for the woman manipulating others to get her way. … So many of these mothers just take, take, take — like parasites.

Even worse, Zamboni explains, is that some women deliberately infect themselves with Golden Uterus Syndrome, thus guaranteeing them a life of ease as a stay-at-home or single mother:

[W]omen all over world are blatantly getting pregnant so that they don’t have to work at a job, so that they can be supported by a man. I’m not going to act like I approve of their behavior to ensnare and enslave a man, so that this man is then forced to pay eighteen years of child support at the very least.

GUS is rampant in the United States. And it’s time for an intervention.

Mothers now enjoy many unwarranted preferences, and it’s time to reestablish a new and more equitable balance.

Luckily, Zamboni explains, we can combat many of the evil effects of GUS simply by acting like assholes.

The fact is that other people, be they men or women, owe nothing to mothers. As the recent Italian ocean liner accident (Costa Concordia) dramatically revealed, chivalry is dead. I won’t give my seat on the bus to a mother who’s standing, and I certainly won’t give my sinking-ship lifeboat seat to a mother.

The social contract between men and women is dead, and feminist women are the ones who killed it. Mothers in general don’t do anything for me (although I appreciate my own, God rest her soul).

Men shouldn’t feel guilty for treating mothers badly. Because feminism.

Once upon a time, there may have been good reason to protect mothers, to support mothers, etc. (I don’t know, I wasn’t there). But that is one hundred or more years ago. Today’s American women claim to be the equals of men, if not better than men. At least in this instance, I am pleased to give them what they say they want (equal treatment).

Motherhood is, after all, a choice, and men really shouldn’t be burdened by any of the costs of human reproduction.

The fact is that modern mothers have a choice to have a child or not. When they have a child, it is their own personal burden that they are taking on — it is their decision to have that baby. I had no part in their past baby making decisions (unfortunately even if I was the contributor of DNA material), and I do not now agree to allow them to off-load the baby-related responsibilities and costs onto me. …

This is fundamentally a question of self-responsibility, and women in general seem loath to take on true self-responsibility. A friend of mine calls it “congenital female selfishness,” but I think it is more like an acculturated selfishness, and a “pussy pass” so that they can get out of trouble, so that they don’t need to grow-up. As long as we men keep playing the mangina and white knight roles, as long as we keep giving all sorts of special treatment to mothers, going out of our way to protect mothers, doing all sorts of special favors for mothers, we feed and perpetuate the GUS fantasy.

And really, why should men have to pay just because some lady wants to take up babymaking as a hobby?

The fact is: the world doesn’t need more children. … Women don’t need to have children. They want children. Having children is a preference, and men are supposed to endlessly indulge women in the fulfillment of this wish. It’s time that the women-having-babies conversation was brought into the realm of public conversation, and then dealt with rationally and responsibly.

It’s time that men got a backbone and refused to endlessly indulge women in their desire for, and rearing of children. In large measure, it is the continued willingness of men to indulge this selfish female desire that has led to our overpopulation problem.

Exactly! It has nothing to do with governments and religious institutions campaigning against birth control and abortion, or any of that stuff. It’s female selfishness, plain and simple.

It’s time for all men to say “no” to women that selfishly keep having babies. It’s time for third party men to say “no” to providing support and protection to mothers who have quite clearly rejected any sort of partnership with a man. It’s time for all men to say “no” to the exploitative demands of these GUS-infected self-serving mothers.

Stirring words indeed.

Naturally, Zamboni’s argument found receptive ears over at The Spearhead.

“Great article Joe,” wrote Pendelton.

The living hell a man goes through where the golden uterus lives on his back and shoulders 24/7, also using his children to dump on and chump off him has got to be comparably unbearable.

And it’s always to be remembered that this type of woman, being a natural mercenary and hostage maker, has the legal violence of the law to back up her nastiness.

Why do people put up with these nagging hoyhums ?

Stonelifter added:

woman have the golden everything syndrome. They think you owe them for life if you had sex with you once; sex which they also enjoyed as well as you.

They make you diner once, you owe them for life

Admittedly, if a woman builds you an entire diner, I think you probably do owe her for that.

Durandal worked in a bit of “we hunted the mammoth for you” as well:

Women’s value is defined by what they have. Which is a vagina, uterus, and babymaking capability. Hence the self-entitlement and the probable evolutionary adaptation of selfishness and reliance on emotional solipsism and manipulation.

Men’s value is defined by what they do. Which is build absolutely everything, provide everything and advance civilization through their effort, rationality, intelligence, courage and sacrifice.

When our fiat monetary system falls apart and our economy winds down (and it will, if it hasn’t already), watch as government mandated entitlements for women from education & employment quotas to divorce court payouts go up in smoke and an immediate desire to reinstate productivity and real wealth (brought to you by patriarchy) returns for good.

Orecret also predicted the end of the world as we know it (and he feels fine):

Sometimes I wonder how much of the tension between women and men and the consequent breakdown of the social contract between them are due to overpopulation on the planet.

A greater population is no longer needed. Babies and children thus have a lower social value… as do WOMEN… and the male-female bond generally.

Women have gained more power due to prosperity and technology. They are currently experiencing what to them seems like a moment of glory. Only they are poised for a great fall as the effects of overpopulation on the planet become more acutely felt.

As elbow room becomes significantly impinged, men will find themselves even less inclined to take on any sort of partnership with a woman, especially where children are concerned. This effectively frees up men to use their time as they see fit as they are not to be burdened with the expenses and responsibilities of marriage, etc.

Men will act less and less in the public sphere. Corporations will have a hard time hiring men to jobs that they neither need nor want having been freed from the burden of family. Armies will shrink due to the lack of will the everyman has in protecting a society where the social contract has broken down much to the detriment of men everywhere.

The society will crash around us. Women will find themselves without male partners in an increasingly harsh social and natural environment. Life will become increasingly difficult for them and they will be (evermore) unhappy.

The MEN will be free and feral. Returned once again to a natural state where the majority of them are the happiest.

It seems a collective Wile E. Coyote moment is about to take place on a global scale.

It’s a good thing that THIS roadrunner has already gone ghost.

Each of these comments got dozens of upvotes on The Spearhead. Spearheaders know good sense when they see it!

 

There is some here.

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Posted on February 23, 2012, in $MONEY$, antifeminism, armageddon, chivalry, disgusting women, evil women, I'm totally being sarcastic, idiocy, it's science!, MGTOW, misogyny, MRA, oppressed men, precious bodily fluids, sex, the enigma that is ladies, the spearhead, vaginas. Bookmark the permalink. 533 Comments.

  1. In my heart of hearts, I dream of running a Selfish Douchebag Hotline. People could call in, saying “I took the last 3 doughnuts from the box, even though not everyone had shown up to the meeting yet. Then, everybody glared at me! It doesn’t say anywhere that I’m only allowed to have one doughnut! How dare they demonize me so?” And then I would say “Hmm, that sounds really tough. Hey, have you tried not being a selfish douchebag?” And I would make the world a better place, one douchebag at a time!

  2. Brandon, the reason PEOPLE are considered assholes when they don’t give seats to children below preteen age is because those children are far more likely to stumble or fall and seriously hurt themselves on a moving bus. They cannot reach the straps to steady themselves and adults are more likely to knock them over or tread on them as the adults try to keep their balance.

    Pregnant women should also be given a seat for much the same reason. Also, injuries to a pregnant woman are more likely to put their pregnancy at risk (which can result in a dead child) and it is far more likely that it will be an injury to the stomach, which portrudes futher as the pregnancy progresses. The fact that I’ve had to state the blatently obvious problems to you is extraordinarily disgraceful. Also, your repaying the same society back for what was likely many small kindnesses extended to YOUR mother, which helped to insure that her pregnancy was as safe and comfortable as possible so that YOU would be born healthy.

  3. Children, just like duffel bags. Especially the one from the eighties, you know, the ones that make Brandon more manly. Brandon, have you ever taken a child on a bus? Have you even met a child. They are unlike duffel bags.

  4. Ha ha! Brandon’s refusal to give up his bus seat to a pregnant woman is now a “defiant act”! He is an American hero for sitting on his ass, people! Show some respect! I mean, it’s basically what Rosa Parks did, right?

    Brandon, I’m pretty sure everyone here was talking about giving up seats to pregnant women, and you and the original poster are the only ones making it into mothers in general. Not that giving up your seat to someone who clearly needs it isn’t the right thing to do.

  5. @Bostonian: I am actually employed at one. Go figure, they actually pay me because I drive truck to pick up all the food, help people carry their groceries and thank them for coming in. I also do their data entry and IT work as well.

    I once even had to console a woman that was crying because she was too embarrassed and ashamed to be there.

    @Pecunium: This isn’t about taking a bus hours in advance. It is about showing up 10 minutes earlier so you can be one of the first 50th people to get on the bus.

    I know I know, you are going to use the “but my stop is in the middle of the bus run and it is always packed when I get on” crap. Well, life isn’t fair all the time and you can’t move through life without being inconvenienced. Get over it. That is still no reason to go around judging people poorly because they didn’t behave the way you wanted them to.

    You are demonizing them. Via Merriam-Webster.

    b : a source or agent of evil, harm, distress, or ruin.

    You clearly said earlier that by not getting up for someone you are making their life more unpleasant. Hence, you would be an agent of harm or distress. Albeit reactively.

    Your moral expectations does not equate to human decency.

  6. @Viscaria: How is that unspecific?

    Uh… Because it says nothing about how old the kids are, or how many of them there are. Like I just said. O_o

    It really depends on how disruptive. Baby crying with mother trying to soothe the baby…not so much. A mother letting their child run and jump on everything and everyone on the train, bus, etc…ya, that’s kind of disruptive.

    And that’s a lot harder to prevent if you can’t sit your kids down, which was my point. Though really, that’s much less important than what pillowinhell

  7. “said about child safety,” was the end of that sentence. Stupid “Post Comment” button!

  8. It isn’t about disrespect at all. It is about it being wrong to call someone an asshole because they didn’t live up to your expectations.

    No it’s not. It’s perfectly right to call someone an asshole because they didn’t live up to your expectations.

    Especially if the specific way they failed to live up to your expectations is by acting like an asshole.

  9. @Viscaria: Your example at:

    http://manboobz.com/2012/02/23/uteruses-versus-duderuses/comment-page-3/#comment-128317

    Is incorrect. By taking the doughnuts you are actively doing something. In order for your analogy to be correct, someone would have to board the bus, locate a pregnant woman and rip her from her seat so that person could sit down.

    Someone just choosing to remain seated is not actively doing anything to another human being.

  10. @shaenon: Ok, you are well within your rights to think anyway you want…but thinking poorly of someone remaining in their seat just makes you look petty, bitter, demanding and reactive.

  11. Brandon, what I’m hearing from you, in pretty much all your conversations since you started posting here, is that you want to act like an asshole and still be treated not only decently, but with respect and admiration.

    Um, good luck with that?

  12. @Shaenon: Umm…no. I just don’t think the person not giving up their seat should be thought of as an asshole (especially when the other person is not disabled or elderly). I am not saying he should get the keys to the city or have a ticker tape parade in his honor.

  13. @Shaenon: Also, you can call every single person that doesn’t give you their seat an asshole…but in the end, you still aren’t sitting down. If you actually get to the bus stop a little bit earlier, you have a better chance at getting one.

    Hence, you have a better chance of getting your desired results (a seat), if you change yourself instead of demanding others to change themselves to your liking.

  14. Brandon, if a pregnant woman, someone disabled or young children got hurt because no one wanted to give up their seat, yeah, all the people who were in the vicinity and could have helped are ASSHOLES. That injury could have easily been prevented with minimal effort from the surrounding people. I really don’t care what gender someone is, if they look like they’d be better off sitting, I will gladly give up my seat. My daughter is nine, and even she has better manners, empathy and understanding than you Brandon, and will happily give her seat to those who need it.

  15. I am surprised you did not berate her for being upset, although the fact she was upset was probably why you thought it was ok for her to be there.

    So since you are paid to be there, that is different, I cannot imagine you volunteering at a food pantry though.

  16. Brandon, do you ever take a bus? If you get on halfway through a route, to go wherever it is you’re going, quite often you will find the bus ALREADY loaded to crush conditions. Especially the ones that go to grocery stores and shopping centers. And amazingly, we can all be packed in like sardines and people will still try to give up a seat, or at the very least, help support those people and children who look like they may need it.

  17. Hence, you have a better chance of getting your desired results (a seat), if you change yourself instead of demanding others to change themselves to your liking.

    You mean get an abortion?

    What if a pregnant woman is trying to ride the bus to the abortion clinic? Can she have your seat then?

  18. @Bostonian: I got the job because I spent several months volunteering there.

    @Pillow: And that is the same way I determine if someone will get my seat. I just don’t have a “blanket policy” that says “I will give up my seat to any mother”.

    I worked in Boston and commuted from Everett. That was one bus, the orange line then the Green line (a trolley). I did this for 4 years. I spent roughly 2 hours a day commuting back and forth to work. If there was a game ending at Fenway, then it took me an extra hour just to wait for one of the Green line trolleys to have any space for me to get on. But I didn’t go around calling them assholes for going to watch the Red Sox.

  19. You know, I should probably thank you Brandon. Its self centred, unthinking people like you who make me appreciate beloved so much more. I count my blessings and am reminded to tell Beloved how much I appreciate just who he is on a very frequent basis.

  20. @Shaenon: Geez… An abortion? Are you friggin kidding me? I am talking about arriving a little bit earlier or waiting for the next bus if it will just be a few minutes. I am not saying you should kill a baby.

  21. @Pillow: No, I just see a mother as nothing special. She is no different than the musician lugging his equipment or the bean counter that is in a suit and carrying a briefcase. I don’t jump for them, so I see no reason to jump for the mother.

  22. I find that hard to believe Brandon. The volunteering part that is. Of course the main reason I find that so hard to believe is because your words here paint a very distinct picture of a horrible person who only ever looks out for himself, and then wants praise for doing just that.

  23. Well, I just don’t think you should be upset at people for calling you an asshole, Brandon. It’s not like they’re hitting you or anything.
    You have a better chance of getting your desired results (not getting called an asshole), if you change yourself instead of demanding others to change themselves to your liking.

  24. @Shaenon: Also, you can call every single person that doesn’t give you their seat an asshole…but in the end, you still aren’t sitting down. If you actually get to the bus stop a little bit earlier, you have a better chance at getting one.

    Hence, you have a better chance of getting your desired results (a seat), if you change yourself instead of demanding others to change themselves to your liking.

    Added to my list of reasons *not* to get pregnant: the fact that I will have to get up an hour earlier and leave work an hour later because there’s no other way I’ll be able to sit down on the bus.

    No, I just see a mother as nothing special. She is no different than the musician lugging his equipment or the bean counter that is in a suit and carrying a briefcase. I don’t jump for them, so I see no reason to jump for the mother.

    Brandon doesn’t think fetuses are people. He think they’re musical instruments and briefcases! :D

  25. Last time I checked feminists didn’t see fetuses as people either…otherwise they wouldn’t approve of killing them via abortion

  26. I once even had to console a woman that was crying because she was too embarrassed and ashamed to be there.

    I’m sure you were such a comfort with no judgement at all. Yeah, right.

    What seating priority do imaginary girlfriends and fuckdolls get?

  27. Fetuses aren’t people, Brandon.

  28. Well, I just don’t think you should be upset at people for calling you an asshole, Brandon. It’s not like they’re hitting you or anything.
    You have a better chance of getting your desired results (not getting called an asshole), if you change yourself instead of demanding others to change themselves to your liking.

    Yyyep.

  29. I know a lot of “whatever, I’ll do what I want, nobody’s forcing me to be decent to other people, there’s no law that says I have to follow the rules of basic courtesy” assholes, but Brandon is unique in that he’s the only one I’ve come across who throws a fit about being called an asshole for it. Some of the people I know even appreciate being called an asshole, since they frame “asshole” as “smarter than all you mooks who show respect to your fellow human beings!”

  30. Funny thing is, no one would actually call someone an asshole for not giving up the seat–we’d think it though, and that’s somehow worse in BrandonWorld.

  31. You’re right, hellkell; I should have said, he throws a fit about being potentially considered an asshole by someone, somewhere.

  32. What surprises me is that he minds, since he’s so above everything.

  33. True, but if Brandon’s a prick, does he not bleed?

  34. Why do you want people to think well of you when you are dedicated to acting stupid and cruel for no real reason?

    This question is unrelated to bus seating.

  35. Christ, what an asshole.

    Last time I checked feminists didn’t see fetuses as people either…otherwise they wouldn’t approve of killing them via abortion

    That would be correct. Because they aren’t people, anymore than your sperm is.

  36. True, but if Brandon’s a prick, does he not bleed?

    HAHAHAHAHA!! GENIUS!

  37. Roosh’s latest which he deleted but PUAhate saved for posterity:

    How To Know If A Girl Was Really Raped Or Not
    By Roosh

    I’ve become extremely skeptical that rape occurs anywhere near the level that feminists claim. To understand how difficult it actually is, all you have to do is imagine trying to rape a girl. Consider these three points:

    1. It’s very difficult to fuck a dry girl. Unless your dick secretes Astroglide from its pores, it just won’t go in. Lubing up your dick takes at least one hand, so forget about doing it when a girl is yelling and screaming and trying to twist her body away. In the case of rape you’ll basically have to assault her with one arm while re-lubing. Feminists think our dicks are made of metal but they’re more sensitive than butterfly wings. It seriously hurts when trying to fuck a girl who’s dry.

    2. You won’t be able to rape her long enough to bust. Try to imagine fucking a girl who is fighting you with all her living being. With rape you just won’t be able to get your dick inside and keep it there with any amount of rhythm necessary to orgasm unless she’s completely restrained.

    3. She has two knees. I was doing a little rape fantasy with a Polish girl where I put my entire body weight on top of her. I said, “I got you now, get ready to be raped.” She said that it would be easy for her to get out of it but I laughed and told her that the rape is definitely going down. She then showed me how easily it would be to knee the fuck out of my groin, which brought the rape roleplay to a premature end. She made me realize how easy it would be to disable a man trying to fuck her.

    Here’s how you know whether a girl was really raped or not:

    Did she have obvious and serious physical injuries on her body suggesting she received heavy blows that had the potential to knock her out?
    Did she have a roofie in her system, confirmed by laboratory tests?
    Was she tied down with rope?
    Was she gang raped, in which she was completely restrained by other men?
    Was her resistance subdued with a knife or gun?
    Was she a feeble old woman who could not put up resistance?

    Unless one of these conditions is a yes, she didn’t get raped, because as I man I know how nearly impossible it is to rape a woman otherwise. Even if I could physically overpower a girl, I could only imagine trying to rape one in my apartment building with her yelling at the top of her lungs. The cops would be at my door in five minutes. And if a girl is not yelling at the top of her lungs then she’s not being raped.

    A girl with no injuries and no drugs in her system who claimed Chad raped her on the second date in his bedroom is a liar who deserves to go to jail. Whenever you see a rape story in the news, simply look at the facts presented. What evidence suggests she was truly raped? Unfortunately, most of the time the only evidence is her word, and we already know how much a woman’s word is worth.

    Don’t believe the rape hype. The odds that a girl will be raped for real in her life approaches zero. Don’t let girls get away with spreading bullshit that rape is common. The truth is that it’s much harder to rape than to fuck a typical American slut using her consent.

    http://puahate.com/showpost.php?p=1244569&postcount=7

  38. That would be correct. Because they aren’t people, anymore than your sperm is.

    I know, I know, I was opening a whole can of worms there. But still, I bet even pro-choice feminists support giving your seat to pregnant ladies on the bus!

  39. Helkell, you are BRILLIANT!!

  40. @Molly Ren

    Honestly, I think everyone does it for the wellbeing of the pregnant woman. Like, even anti-choice people give up their seat because they understand that an expecting woman is going to have swollen ankles, back aches etc. rather than making sure the fetus is healthy.

  41. Aw, thanks, guys.

    Molly, I don’t think you opened up a huge can of worms, I think Little Lord Fucknut is just being himself, and with his stance on child support/child rearing, one would think he’d be totally for abortion.

  42. Brandon: You can keep talking and talking and talking, and we’re (those of us here who have seen you in action and loved your being pwned and are waiting until you arrive at that space again) going to think you’re an asshole.

    And when many of us are in public and see somebody acting like an asshole, we’ll think that they are assholes–amazing how you think YOU should be able to dictate how “society” judges anything–and how often the hills you apparently want to die on (by die on, I mean “keep posting and posting and posting and posting and getting stupider and stupider and stupider) are so incredibly minor–but you seem to think you are some huge radical activist dude! Not getting married! Not being polite to women (but to men, of course! that’ll show those women who are so uppity and think they’re equal). Demanding R>E>S>P>E>C>T while shitting on everybody else, and oh yeah, bragging about your sex life.

    Dude–can you even HEAR yourself?

    Asshole.

  43. @Rutee: I wouldn’t be surprised if Brandon considers his sperm to be more worthy of respect that all those uppity feminists women demanding that he throw himself down on the street so they can stomp over him in spike heels just so they’re not in danger from traffic because CHIVALRY.

    So, yeah. He probably has little secret names for his seed.

  44. Remind me again why anyone’s bothering with this douchebag? Basically everything he does anymore is throw little “YOU CAN”T TELL ME WHAT TO DO!” shitfits. He’s a gigantic godsdamned toddler.

  45. True, but if Brandon’s a prick, does he not bleed?

    That’s a beautiful thing, Hellkell.

  46. Last time I checked feminists didn’t see fetuses as people either…otherwise they wouldn’t approve of killing them via abortion

    I really don’t want this to turn into an abortion thread, but this is factually untrue. It is absolutely possible to support abortion rights while believing that fetuses qualify as persons, because no born person is entitled to use other people’s bodies against their will, either. The whole “personhood” debate is kind of a red herring, to my mind, because it is entirely unambiguous that the person whose uterus the fetus is inhabiting is a legal person, and she (or in rare cases, he/zie) thus possesses the right to bodily autonomy. See also the famous “violinist” thought experiment.

    Anyway, back to your regularly scheduled whining about how toddlers are basically the same as duffel bags.

  47. I think Little Lord Fucknut just tossed out the comment about abortion to try and stir everyone up.

    I find it interesting that Brandon is now working for a food pantry, and he got the job after volunteering there for several months. Wasn’t he supposed to be a hotshot computer programmer? Why would he give that up for a lower-paying job? I doubt it’s because he wants to help people. (And a delivery driver counseling the food pantry’s clients? Riiiight.)

    Not that more lies from Brandon would be surprising or anything.

  48. but you seem to think you are some huge radical activist dude! Not getting married! Not being polite to women (but to men, of course! that’ll show those women who are so uppity and think they’re equal). Demanding R>E>S>P>E>C>T while shitting on everybody else, and oh yeah, bragging about your sex life.

    Dude–can you even HEAR yourself?

    Maybe someone asked this in the past, but what *was* Brandon’s upbringing? Some super conservative sect where everyone was married and working for the Man by 23, with no contact with the outside world?

  49. Oh great, Brandon’s back. Yay.

    To clarify my initial comment, I think taking up two seats when you only need one on a crowded bus is the major asshole move, regardless of the uterine contents of the other passengers. Dude acting pissy because I had the nerve to a) ask for the ALREADY EMPTY SEAT and b) ask him to move very slightly so I could squeeze between him and the seat in front was just icing on the cake.

  50. I seem to remember him saying his parents were divorced and his mom is a feminist.

  51. I seem to remember him saying his parents were divorced and his mom is a feminist.

    Yeah, that sounds right. Mostly I just remember the bit about how his father was a better parent than his mother because one time his father gave him beer and porn.

  52. …his mom is a feminist.

    WHERE DID IT ALL GO WRONG?

  53. “I find it interesting that Brandon is now working for a food pantry, and he got the job after volunteering there for several months. Wasn’t he supposed to be a hotshot computer programmer? Why would he give that up for a lower-paying job? I doubt it’s because he wants to help people. (And a delivery driver counseling the food pantry’s clients? Riiiight.)”

    Seconded. It is much more likely that Brandon is simply lying about the whole working at the food pantry thing. He has already lied and sockpuppeted here, so it would fit the pattern of his past behavior.

  54. The fetus thing is a derail, the original hypothetical Brandon was whining over was a women with child, so he’s comparing an actual child with a briefcase, as if they have an equal need to be in public spaces (well, even if you are talking about a fetus, it’s not as if there’s an option to just leave it at home by itself as you go about your business).

    Also, as a person whose disabilities do make me unable to stand on a bus, I do sometimes wait a long time for one with open seats. This sucks. It’s a totally shitty thing to expect someone else to forgo sleep and the ability to get places on time (also, standing in a bus shelter for hours, or sitting in the cold for hours, isn’t exactly healthy for pregnant people, disabled people, small kids, etc.) if you aren’t going to experience a comparable hardship by being friendly to them. Inflicting large amounts of suffering on others because you are a selfish entitled douche is absolutely an asshole move.

    P.S. Is Boston some sort of hellhole of misogyny or something? What is it with Boston?

  55. Boston is not a hellhole! It is not Boston’s fault two ridiculous twerps hail from there.

  56. There are a lot of very nice and also very feminist people in Boston!

    But every big city’s got its proportion of buttheads.

  57. I do love how Brandon refuses to put pregnant women in the “people you should probably give your seat to” category, because dammit they’re women and it would demean him to be nice to them and he needs to make a stand against feminism. By making pregnant women stand.

    I, able bodied non-pregant woman, will happily give up my seat for another woman who is visibly pregnant, without her having to ask. This is because I am not an asshole, not because YAY THE MATRIARCHY WILL REIN SUPREME.

  58. Brandon is the winner of the “Painfully Literal Troll of the Day” award for February 25, 2012. Congrats, Brandon! There is no prize.

  59. David: Given how NWO’s participation has gone downhill after winning his award, we can only hope the will be true for BRANDON!

    Contrary troll is contrary.

  60. I remember a few times, three or four, where I’ve been asked by the stewards on the airplane if I’d mind shifting seats so that a mother with several children can all be in the same row, or closer together (occasionally, adults flying together have asked me the same thing, so they can sit together), and I’m always fine, no problem, all the seats get to the same place!

    ONE time, the steward kept trying to give me free drinks from first class because I smiled and agreed, and it was so amazingly nice of me, and people just never do that, and wouldn’t I like a drink (I don’t drink alcohol, not with my meds).

    I can only think that the last time she’d had to ask somebody to shift a seat to help a family, it was OMG BRANDON!CLONE!

  61. @Pecunium: This isn’t about taking a bus hours in advance. It is about showing up 10 minutes earlier so you can be one of the first 50th people to get on the bus.

    At which stop? I take the subway to work. It runs every 15 minutes. There are usually only about 15 people at my stop.

    The car is standing room only. I can get a seat, if I show up before 0600. At 0800, fuggedabout it.

    But you admit that you know that, and your, “just show up ten minutes early” is a bit of gaslighting misdirection; i.e. asshole behavior.

    I am not demonising them. I’m not pointing fingers at them and telling them they are shitbags. I’m looking at them and deciding they are assholes. It’s internal. My moral compass is mine. It may mean that, come some future occasion I treat them with less charity than otherwise. It’s because they have lost of the respect one has to earn in this world.

    You know, that respect you insist on, even though your a self-centered wretch who thinks, “me first” is a good way to interact with the world.

    (BTW, how many jobs have you got, because as I recall you last claimed to be doing IT in the Banking Industry… didn’t know it was food banking.)

  62. @Hippodameia: It is a part time job. I do it a few hours every day so I can have some spending money on the weekends. Also, the staff is only 5 people with about 10 off and on volunteers, so I come into constant contact with the clients there.

    @Cassandra: That is because no one chooses to be grow old and become elderly. Nor do most sane people decide to become disabled. Women however, are fully aware that sex might lead to pregnancy or at a bare minimum are making a conscious decision to remain pregnant. So unless women can just spontaneously become pregnant, I place them in a separate category.

    @Pecunium: Whatever. So it is internal. Demonizing vs non-demonizing…blah blah blah. What gets solved by calling a stranger an “asshole” in your own head? Not a damn thing. If he/she is an asshole, what do they care if you think they are an asshole?

    My point is, all of this solves nothing. People will still be assholes, but depending on how many of these “rules” (created by you of course!) these people you encounter break, you will most likely get more bitter as people don’t live up to your expectations.

    If your moral expectations are impractical, then sooner or later, you will see everyone as being an asshole.

    My full time job is doing IT work. The food pantry is just a part time job. The food pantry has basic IT needs (web site work, simple database, etc,,,) that I help them with. My full time job has more complex issues.

  63. You heard it here, folks, Brandon is arguing for the end of humanity, no more breeding, you hear? Because no one is ever to be pregnant if it might result in him being thought rude for being selfish!

  64. LOL, Brandon. OK then, I guess next time you see someone disabled on the bus you should ask them the origins of their disability before offering them a seat. If it turns out that their own behavior played any part in their becoming disabled (say, a sports injury, or an injury resulting from a car accident, after all it’s not like we don’t all know that car accidents can happen before we get behind the wheel), then you better not offer them a seat, just to be consistent.

    Brandon’s poor rationalization hamster must be exhausted.

  65. @Darky: Umm…nice strawman.

  66. @Cassandra: I would rather take the path of least resistance and just assume they didn’t cause their own disability.

  67. I must admit the elaborate fantasy of a work life is marginally funny.
    I still do not think anyone like Brandon would go within 10 feet of a food pantry. It will be interesting to see if this shows up in other threads in the future.

  68. But of course if it’s a woman then you have to assume the worse, especially if sex is involved. Yeah, Brandon, we know. Your unique and lovely set of prejudices seep through in every single thing you write.

  69. So your point is… what? That because it, “solves nothing” I should just shrug my shoulders and say, “so he’s an asshole, not hurting me so the fuck I should care?”.

    In other words, “fuck you jack, I got mine.”

    I’ll also remind you that when one is attempting to defuse a counter-argument (as with the time of day/place on the route) it helps to counter it, not just say, “hey, if you can’t get up early enough/live hear the start of the line, fuck you jack, I got mine”. Because that’s just admitting your argument is specious. Duly noted.

    It is amusing to see you, the arbiter of who is a slut (nothing judgemental about it, you just think people ought to know they aren’t worthy of respect), and who isn’t. The dude who makes sure women aren’t feminists; because feminists are killjoys, and once you know someone is a feminist you know everything you need to know about how interesting/worthwhile they are as a companion.

    The guy who says men need to take extraordinary (and extra-legal) precautions, lest someone falsely accuse them of rape. The guy who is willing to make children suffer to make sure those children’s mothers show him the respect he demands; just for being alive.

    That’s the guy who’s telling me that recognising an asshole when I see one is going to make me bitter. I don’t expect people to be decent. I hope for it. I see it more often than not. But when I see someone being an asshole, I don’t just chalk it up to, ‘The way the world is” and ignore it.

    I tend to think that I am my brother’s keeper, and that, as John Donne said, NUNC LENTO SONITU DICUNT, MORIERIS.

    Now this bell tolling softly for another,
    says to me, Thou must die….No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main; if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friend’s or of thine own were; any man’s death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.

    I also think of Dickens, and Marley’s Ghost.

    “But you were always a good man of business, Jacob,” faltered Scrooge, who now began to apply this to himself.

    “Business!” cried the Ghost, wringing its hands again. “Mankind was my business. The common welfare was my business; charity, mercy, forbearance, and benevolence were, all, my business. The dealings of my trade were but a drop of water in the comprehensive ocean of my business!”

    But hey… you want to lose no respect in the eyes of the world, because, unlike Donne, or Scrooge, you are as Marley was: Brandon is your business, and at your wake they can hang the words, “Fuck you Jack, I got mine,” over the entrance to the hall. Everyone will know who died.

  70. @Cassandra: Assume what? She allowed her own pregnancy? Most women do. Rape victims being the exception.

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