The hard life of the Alpha male. Get it? Get it? It’s a double entendre. Heh heh. Penis.
Now in pill form.
Life is tough for the beta male. During his twenties, as Manosphere dudes never tire of reminding us, women reject him, choosing instead to throw themselves wantonly at caddish alpha males.
Only after these cruel, callous women have squandered their youth and beauty – by the age of 30 if not earlier – do they turn at last to the betas, who’ve been patiently waiting in the “friend zone” the whole time. Those poor betas, nice guys and good providers all, are then lured into marriage with these now-ugly shrews, who are no longer interested in sex, and want only their money, often used to provide for kids sired by alpha males. (See here for Holly Pervocracy’s more detailed analysis of the “Greek system.”)
But life can be tough for the alpha male as well, driven to exhaustion by nearly constant sex with an incredible array of horny twentysomething women. The movie trailer below will give you some idea of just what the typical alpha male has to deal with on a daily basis.
Posted on February 21, 2012, in Uncategorized. Bookmark the permalink. 893 Comments.
Brandon, I just don’t get why you come here blazing guns and then settle into something that sounds more reasonable.
Do you have some really strong image of what feminists are? Lots of feminists here and elsewhere do see some of the problems that men face. Many here actually do what they can to help.
Why the change and seeming back peddling?
This is boring. Anyone know any good trumpet solos I can learn? They have to be within one octave because yeah, that’s all I can play (so far).
So now the person in the hypothetical is a stranger? Because the context initially implied that this was someone they were were romantic with. Also, the very situation demands that they are at least casual acquaintances. I mean, I’ve had homeless strangers ask for money, but they’ve never sad they’d return it to me on Friday. If they did, that would be rather creepy, because it would suggest they knew where I lived or what my habits were that well.
Then brandon, there’s a real problem with communication here. Because what you often have to say seems mighty geared to starting a fight. Perhaps that’s not what you need to use is qualifiers or specific instances a little morE.
the thing is, normal people don’t ledger-ize their interactions in this kind of pedantic detail, because we’re generally around people we like and trust, and we’re confident things are generally on balance
the thing is you don’t seem to like or trust people in general. which is fine if you do. where you go wrong is when you take your personal tendencies and try to make them into universal declarative statements.
@katz I know of some fun online sheet music sources to browse, where you might be able to find one octave trumpet solos. Want ‘em?
dsc, if the person asking isn’t a potential fucktoy, Brandon wouldn’t even be thinking about helping. Remember this is the guy who wouldn’t call 911 from a safe location if he saw you getting mugged.
Cloudiah: Sure.
@pillowinhell
brandon used to come here trying to find common ground, although he still had a lot of the problematic attitudes and general solipsism. then it turned out his common ground involved a feminism that never called men out for any reason, and when we rejected that he flipped the fuck out and started in on whatever weird trolling routine he thinks he’s pulling. he used to be a lot more obsessive about it, though.
Scores featuring the trumpet via the International Music Scores Library Project:
http://imslp.org/index.php?title=Category:Scores_featuring_the_trumpet&transclude=Template:Catintro
@DSC
That actually happened to me. To be fair it was when I was living in an apartment and she said she lived in one of the apartment buildings a few roads down from me but it still freaked me the fuck out. Really Brandon, if you ever find yourself in need of help from a stranger, PLEASE don’t ask them for their address in your search for reciprocity. Anyone who gives a stranger help is not expecting much back.
The “relationships require give and take” advice sure becomes dickish when it’s used to mean “so make sure the other person is giving you enough to be worth your time.”
Sibley Music Library’s Music Scores Online:
https://urresearch.rochester.edu/viewInstitutionalCollection.action?collectionId=63
Couldn’t figure out a way to limit to trumpet, but you can do a keyword search.
Sheet Music Consortium:
http://digital2.library.ucla.edu/sheetmusic/
(Limit search to Digitized Sheet Music only to avoid frustration.)
And finally, the Library of Congress has a few sheet music collections on its Performing Arts site:
http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/browse/ListSome.php?category=Performing%20Arts,%20Music
Okay, that’s all I got. Happy trumpeting.
@Pillow: Yes, I dislike feminism and feminists. I think feminists coddle women and treat them as victims and non-actors in there own lives. A lot of feminists seem to believe that men are actors and women are acted upon. Whenever someone gives a feminist a proactive solution to their problem…they mostly make nothing but excuses about why they aren’t being proactive in their life (read “I can’t fix or have a better life because the patriarchy!!!”).
I think feminists are only out to help men as long as the end result also benefits women. If something benefits men at the expense of women (e.g shared parenting legislation), feminists tend to oppose it. Not based on fairness but that women aren’t benefiting.
I have changed nothing. I am still the same person. I am just talking about a subject that most of you aren’t hostile and defensive about. When it comes to economic and legal positions, I tend to agree with feminists positions like equal pay. The problem is that the execution of that principle is all fucked up. When it comes to the basic and ingrained tenets feminism like “patriarchy” and “gender is a social construct”…I think they are both simplistic, black and white and incorrect. I also tend to disagree with feminists that men and women are equal but we serve different biological functions.
Thanks, Cloudiah!
Nice strawfeminist, there. I have never heard a feminist say they couldn’t fix their (ahem) life because patriarchy.
Do I need to go up or down a tax bracket to hear this in the wild?
I don’t pay taxes, and I don’t say I can’t fix my life because patriarchy. So, up I guess?
I don’t suppose I could push Mr Boring into giving an example of a feminist identifying person specifically say that they can’t ‘fix their life because patriarchy’ could I?
Oh that was Eurosabra? xD DSC just gave me quotes, I didn’t pay attention to the name…
Yeah, I remember Eurosabra and how he used to troll you endlessly Holly xD
Caraz, you could try. He’ll just tell you he’s not your student, so look it up yourownself.
I can’t fix my life because of patriarchy.
I think feminists coddle women and treat them as victims and non-actors in there own lives. A lot of feminists seem to believe that men are actors and women are acted upon. Whenever someone gives a feminist a proactive solution to their problem…they mostly make nothing but excuses about why they aren’t being proactive in their life
this is a fairy tale and not even a very clever one, but good on you for trying
and brandon’s total lack of self-awareness strikes again
I tend to agree with feminists positions like equal pay. The problem is that the execution of that principle is all fucked up.
What’s wrong with the execution of those principles now?
How are they currently being executed? (this is to make sure you live in reality, sometimes our trolls, like you, believe things that aren’t true and therefore get upset about things which aren’t.. actually things to be upset about)
And what would you do instead?
I think feminists coddle women and treat them as victims and non-actors in there own lives. A lot of feminists seem to believe that men are actors and women are acted upon. Whenever someone gives a feminist a proactive solution to their problem…they mostly make nothing but excuses about why they aren’t being proactive in their life
Except.. that’s not true… -_o My trauma therapy has all been about taking CONTROL of my life after that control was stripped from me.
What would you prefer instead?
It’s weird that our MRAs often whine that FEMINISM IS NOT ABOUT SOLUTIONS, but pretty much all MRA stuff is whining about how they can’t fix nething and feminism needs to fix everything, and it’s not a lot of claims and criticisms but no actual solutions outside of “DESTROY FEMINISM!” e_e
the answer is probably going to be someone who had the temerity to point out that patriarchy exists. we’ve been down this road with brandon before.
Shorter brandon…I’m here to argue in bad faith, with people I don’t like and don’t believe.
Look Brandon, perhaps you’d enjoy Feminist Critics better. I don’t mind debating various points of feminism, unless I have reason to believe that the other person has already decided to be completely unmoved by any argument I can make. Hell, I’ll even take a “hmm, I still don’t think I agree, but I think about it”. This is not the position you seem to be adopting currently.
Why are you here?
@lyn and everyone else
Thanks for the recommendations! I’m going to look into how to make mashed potatoes. Also I guess squash would be OK if I made it extra soft and served it lukewarm? Will adding soy sauce and rice wine to it create a problem? Obviously vinegar is out.
@ hellkell – Will email you, and thanks.
Meanwhile, Brandon is throwing another tantrum. Oh look, it’s Wednesday (or any other day). The thing about insulting women about their looks over the internet is that A. you have no idea what they look like, and if you happen to do that to a woman who knows she’s pretty she’s just going to find it funny, and B. in order for that particular insult to sting, the woman has to like you and care about your opinion at least a little. Brandon, none of the women here like you. We don’t care if you find us fuckable, because we don’t want to fuck you. Maybe try to find an insult that actually stings?
On Eurosabra, no, he’s not MRAL. He’s a whiny asshole who’s obsessed with his height, so I can see why people would think he was, but unfortunately that particular set of stupid ideas is relatively common among young men. Eurosabra wins a special prize for choosing to pursue his silly hit on all the ladies and if you gaslight them enough some of them may fuck you strategy in an environment where the average person is much hotter than him, and conventional hotness is very highly prized. LA is a big city – there are other places he could hang out. But nope, he’s insistent on choosing the environments in which he’s most likely to be rejected. Neither smart nor possessed of much self-esteem, that one.
@Brandon:
I think it’s important to remember that feminism is not a monolithic movement. There are several different “branches” of feminism, mostly because there are just a lot of different people in the world with different needs and desires, but also because feminism recognizes the subjectivity of truth. (Different people have different realities, and face different forms of oppression.)
So what you call feminism I might call bullshit, because I don’t know what definition you’re operating under.
There is also the very real possibility that @CassandraSays is right, and you’re just a whiny asshole. Me taking the time to answer your comments seriously is just feeding into your weird complex and your need to over-analyze and over-complicate interactions between men and women. Also, it seems like you get a lot of your anecdotes from sitcoms.
You know, if Brandon were living in a sitcom, that would explain a great deal.
Maybe he’s in a pilot that got cancelled, and just hasn’t been informed.
Re: gaslighting. I thought gaslighting was all about making someone doubt the validity of their memory. How the fuck do you gaslight someone 20 mins after meeting them? I mean, I can see how you can attempt to do it, but how many people are gonna trust you over themselves 20 mins after meeting you?
I’m so shocked that feminists are not willing to do things for men that disadvantage women. Shocked.
I don’t go up and ask borrow money from men. It’s much easier for me to sit in the street and cry until men throw money at me. It’s one of the many life skills I have learned from the Big book o’ learnin.
*ask to borrow money
Cassandra, I hope your surgery goes swimmingly. You probably don’t need to worry. Both times I had extractions it was super easy.
I suggest getting a sippy cup so you can drink without opening your mouth :)
Nothing like contradicting yourself totally within a single sentence to show how “clever” you are.
Brandon: How does one treat a woman not like a person? One treats them as Targets. Fucktoys. Automatons who are only interested in money.
Sort of the way you describe women, a lot of the time.
Then again you are failing at comprehension. And they say feminists can’t be misogynists. How does it feel that you just called another woman a fuckdoll? You fucking hypocrite! wasn’t hellkell calling Ashley a fuckdoll, but saying that, for all we can see, you treat her like one.
And just to be clear, I am saying you’re a bitch because men treat you like a “fuckdoll with a pulse” and you don’t like that
citation needed. You have no idea how men treat hellkell. We have no idea how you treat Ashley. What we do have is a lot of words from you about how you treat people… some of those words, recently, imply you think being a lousy lay is ok.
pillowinhell: Brandon also seems to think that anyone here is so interested in him that his attempt at stereotypical insults is going to be more hurtful than it is revelatory.
So in December I purchased tickets for a myself and a group of friends for a comic convention in April, as well as a hotel room. Some of those friends were men. Two of them have not yet paid me back in full as due to their financial situations, they can only give me a limited portion of each paycheck. In conclusion, all men are money-whoring jerks.
Hey, remember that time when Brandon thought feminism had a lot of useful ideas that he’d adopted into his own life except then we said he couldn’t be King Feminist?
MRA’s take a little skepticism about women (such as fear of cuckolding) and blow it up into a full blown complex.…….says the man who evolved a full fledged plan of taping, encyrpting, etc. his sex encounters to avoid a false rape accusation even though he claimed not to own a camera, but, you know JUST TALKING.
AHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
@Brandon- A movement that campaigns for real economic and social change, rewriting laws so that women could own property after marriage, women VOTING, women in the workforce, birth control, etc. believes that “men are actors and women are acted upon” exactly HOW now?
@CassandraSays- word of advice on mashed potatoes. If you make them with sour cream and cream cheese, they will be tasty as leftovers. If you make them with just milk, they will not be nearly as tasty the next day. The more you knooooow!
M Dubz, that sounds absolutely heavenly.
:D
Future Jewish mommies of the world, making your lives better through fattening foods!
Cassandra: re Mashed Potatoes: There are two ways to make them… mashed, and riced. Riced is pretty much pure potatoes, and needs a ricer.
Mashed is best done with one of the wiggly-wire sort of things. with mashed you can add things like milk, cream, butter, gravy, schmaltz, marrow, etc.
I’ve never been able to enjoy mashed potatoes. The texture and the bland flavor of potatoes put me off, be it instant or homemade. And no amount of butter or additives seem to offset the blandness for me (I don’t like baked potatoes, either, the only potato dishes I really enjoy are fries, tots, chips, or sweet potatoes of any variety). I’m the only one in my family who doesn’t love them.
I am sorry to hear that Lauralot. My favorite way to make mashed potatoes, and the only way my kids will eat them is to cook them in chicken broth with celery, carrots, onions and garlic. Then mash them with a potato masher, add sea salt and pepper to taste, along with butter to taste.
Although that is more of a root veg mash than anything else.
I do enjoy mashed sweet potatoes, I suppose.
If you throw enough garlic and Parmesan into mashed potatoes, or anything really, I don’t see how they can fail to be tasty.
I don’t think I’ve ever had mashed potatoes with Parmesan, come to think of it.
There are some splendid dishes (such as lob/lap scouses) which are based on mased potatoes.
Come to think of it, I’ve never had mashed potatoes with Parmesan either. It sounds tasty. I bet it’d be good with kale.
@Precunium- mmmmmmm schmaltz….
“It is about reciprocity. I tell a story, you tell one to me. I touch your arm, you touch my arm. I try and kiss you, you kiss me, etc…”
And if she doesn’t kiss you back, then presumably this shows that she’s a bitch who was taking advantage of you, rather than a woman who wanted to be your friend but wasn’t sexually interested in you.
In Brandon’s world, there is no way for women to be considered decent people unless they do whatever he wants.
The surgeon also told me noodles were out because they’d get stuck in the wound. Surely mac & cheese isn’t sticky enough to be a problem?
I’m having a really hard time imaging living on mashed potatoes for a week.
@CassandraSays:
I had my wisdom teeth out before… The problem is that particles of food can get stuck in the wound and cause bad stuff. I remember my mom made me soup from a can, but blended it so that it would wash out properly. Mac and cheese though, probably not a good idea.
A bit of cream cheese in mashed potatoes cheers them right up. Not my favorite potato dish either, but easy eating.
@CassandraSays I missed a bunch of the discussion with hit and run reading… But can you eat eggs? When I was a young teen, I had to have a bunch of teeth pulled — I joke that I had double rows like some sharks — plus another oral surgery piled on top of it, just to make me suffer. There are lots of starches you can eat afterwards, but for me eggs were the savior. If you scramble eggs over low heat, it’s just a very soft protein. I’m more into tofu than I was as a kid, so scrambled tofu might also be an option, or other soft tofu options.
I am sure it will go well, and you have my best wishes in that general direction. :-)
Alas, I hate the taste of eggs. That’s a point though – just mashed potatoes would leave me awfully low on protein. There is a soft tofu dessert that I like, that might be a good option I guess.
Thanks for the suggestions and support, everyone! Once I actually get it done I’m sure you’ll all hear me whining about it.
How about pudding? Yogurt? Butternut squash soup? (The last one is a lovely winter dish anyway.)
I think I’m not supposed to eat anything hot, but lukewarm butternut squash soup could work. Of course being me I’m going to want to make a curried version.
What about onions and garlic? Wouldn’t the little bits also be at risk of getting suck in the wound site and creating problems?
I have a feeling I’m going to be eating a LOT of yogurt.
Yeah, not to get everyone OT, but the Sunset Strip thing began because I needed venues that were easily accessible by public transit late into the night and provided a context where people were open to meeting someone new, although I have met new friends in many contexts, including on the street. One can also make the rounds of a club and meet most of the people in the place in about 3-4 hrs, without people assuming you are doing this methodically, if you are open and friendly and reading people well enough not to force yourself on someone closed off. Finally, urban anonymity is pervasive enough that I’ve actually met the same people in the same places on several occasions and not had them remember me, which they would have done had I been That Guy. So I maintain the issue is that I’m not memorable enough. In certain places, I am a known regular, if not a high roller.
You seem to think that I’m triggering creep-dar, when in fact the main problem is I’m too bland and forgettable. If you have a pleasant 10-15min conversation with someone and then move on without boundary pushing, you will be remembered as a nice but clueless guy, even if you ask for a number and that request is declined. Your munches seem to be inhabited by guys who are less than aware of their boundary pushing and I kind of resent being lumped in with that brand of douchbaggery.
Incidentally, one terrifying countermeme cropping up now among self-identified omegas who hear “Game Is a Scam” from feminist blogs is “game is a scam, so rape is cheaper than sex workers” which is fairly horrifying. I can’t think of a blogger who has said that outright but I’m busy with pushback against it IRL.
So if feminists criticize PUAs they’re somehow responsible for rape?
No, more that Omega anti-Gamers tip over into rape apologia, as seen with Eivind Berge. Berge “wish[es] [he] was a PUA”, according to his website. But rape apologia will do.
Yup, rape apologia is bad. Luckily you don’t have to apologize rape in order to be anti-Game. In fact, that’s the polar opposite of what you need to be to oppose Game.
Also, the PUA tendency to label certain men as Omegas is totally helping those guys to attain a positive attitude and greater mental stability.
Um, hell yes that’s horrifying Eurosabra. Do you think, if these men hadn’t heard game is a scam from feminist blogs, that women would be safe and have their rights respected when having sex with them? Or even being around them at all? Because strangely, I do not feel remotely comfortable with the idea of spending time with someone who believes he can trick his way into women’s pants, but has no moral qualms whatsoever with raping them if it turns out that doesn’t work. The problem isn’t not believing in game, the problem is being ready and willing to rape people.
It’s like if someone had heard a good way to make friends is to have blackberry-scented hand cream on at all times, so that when new aquaintances shake your hand their hands will smell of blackberry; but if zie heard somewhere that that doesn’t work, zie’d be entirely willing to drag people off and chain them in hir basement as a second choice. Sure, zie’s not dragging anyone off when zie’s wearing blackberry handcream; but if zie’d consider chaining people up as reasonable under any circumstances than zie’s hardly a safe person to be around.
Or, put another way, game should never be the only thing standing between a man and rape. There should also be things like “a conscience,” or “an understanding of the fact that women are humans, not fuckholes, and should be treated as such,” or “total abject horror at the idea of doing that to a person.”