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Reddit's pedophile problem in the spotlight again: Goodbye, r/jailbait, hello r/preteengirls

Well, not so okay, really.

UPDATE: Reddit has now removed “all subreddits that focus on sexualization of children.” And it only took them six years to realize that maybe catering to peodophiles was not such a good idea.

Yet another Reddit pedophilia explosion, this time centering around r/preteen_girls, a subreddit which is evidently filled with sexualized photos of preteen girls. (You thought the banning of Reddit’s Jailbait subreddit solved the problem?  Nope; Reddit still hosts numerous subreddits catering to pedos.)

The subreddit came under some criticism elsewhere on Reddit a couple of days ago, and countless creeps leapt to its defense.

I don’t have the stomach to dig into this one, but ShitRedditSays is on the case.

Here are screenshots of a bunch of comments defending the subreddit, the pictures, and creepiness itself, collected by SRS regular littletiger. They’re all pretty repugnant, but this one really takes repugnance to a new level:

Here’s an SRS thread discussing the screenshots and the controversy in general.

Many of the defenders of r/preteen_girls have responded to the criticism by angrily asserting that the pictures there aren’t nude or pornographic. Which is not, actually, true, as this SRS thread makes clear. Indeed, here is a screenshot of the incredibly creepy discussion that ensued in r/preteen_girls when one nude picture got posted. (Note: this screenshot shows a small censored thumbnail of the nude picture in question.)

Naturally, all this led to yet more highly upvoted pedophilia jokes, something Reddit already has quite a surplus of.

(Thanks to SRS once again for pointing me to this comment.)

Here’s a discussion of the original thread (in r/wtf) in which some questioned the propriety of Reddit hosting a forum devoted to suggestive and possibly pornographic pictures of children; and another SRS thread highlighting one of the creepier r/preteen_girls defenders. (And if you want more, here’s that guy’s highly disturbing comment history.)

For more on Reddit’s pedophilia problem, see my previous posts on the r/jailbait controversies.

Reddit used to be owned by Conde Nast. It is still owned by Conde Nast’s parent company Advance Publications. Why would this publishing giant, which owns dozens of media properties ranging from the New Yorker and Vanity Fair to the uber-wholesome Sunday newspaper supplement Parade, want to associate itself with a site that continue to host forums devoted to sexualized photos of underage girls?

NOTE: None of the links in this post go to r/preteengirls itself; they are all to discussions of it elsewhere.  None of them link to any of the pictures in question, though one, as I noted, contains a censored thumbnail image of one picture posted there.

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Morgan
Morgan
8 years ago

Ughhh…Reddit. Just ugh.

L
L
8 years ago

How about petitioning the ACLU to look into it, especially if a lawsuit is going to be necessary?

BoggiDWurms
8 years ago

http://www.change.org/petitions/rpreteen-girls-remove-rpreteen-girls-from-redditcom#

Petition in Change.org to bring it down. Not sure if it will be useful, but it’s something…

That’s a petty good idea. I urge everyone on this site to make a signature.

belledame222
8 years ago

Done. Although I’m thinking “Reddit: Kill it with fire, then salt the earth” would probably be a better petition at this point.

belledame222
8 years ago

In my opinion, any distributor, even the kids themselves if they were the ones to post the pics, should be culpable to some degree… But that’s kinda beside the point.

Um, yeah, I’d say it was. WTF?

thebewilderness
thebewilderness
8 years ago

I think the meat analogy is perfect. They are viewing these children as meat, hunted down, captured, and provided for their consumption.

clockworkautomaton
clockworkautomaton
8 years ago

I’d like to point out that there is a now a facebook group for ending child exploitation on reddit: http://www.facebook.com/nomoreredditchildporn

And there is this redditbomb: http://pastebin.com/ig1qcSXP for quickly telling others about the current situation on reddit.

belledame222
8 years ago

From the SRS thread, another suggestion:

http://tips.fbi.gov
This is way beyond the realm of redditry and making funny jokes about how awful these people are.
This is just fucking horrible. I don’t even know what to say.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
8 years ago

@belledame222:

I was responding to falconer’s question, “Why should we blame them and hold them culpable?”

And yeah, I definitely could have phrased myself better, since it’s probably hardly ever the case that the kids themselves that are posting the porn. -_- So no, in nearly every case they would not be blamed or held culpable.

Main reason I said that was because there was some satement in an AVFM thingy that said that they wanted the UN to ensure that “no laws designed to protect minors should be used to prosecute them.” I still have no idea what they were getting at with that…

thebewilderness
thebewilderness
8 years ago

Kirby, I think they are talking about the children who were charged with child porn for sexting pictures of themselves to each other.

pillowinhell
8 years ago

Thank you for the petition link. It’s beyond the pale that people should even have to protest what a few sick bastards will post….gonna see if I can get an acquaintance to post this on his site…lotsa friends…especially the kind into social justice. Hopefully they will spread the news.

BoggiDWurms
8 years ago

Here is my message to the FBI if anyone wants to use it to base their own message on it:

Dear FBI,

The website Reddit has hosted throughout its history numerous subreddits catering to pedophilia. One of those subreddits, /preteen_girls, the latest addition to this internet horror, has many posts of preteen girls in scanty clothing and in sexualized poses.

http://www.reddit.com/r/preteen_girls

This is clearly an aberrant exploitation of the bodies of girls. It is a violation of their body autonomy, the age of consent, their privacy, and of basic human decency. Have the r/preteen_girls subreddit, and all other subreddits catering to pedophilia, deleted. If they refuse to do this, have the entire Reddit website shut down.

Sincerely,
Boggi———-

Summer
Summer
8 years ago

Holy crap. In this blog there is pretty extreme stuff (as David warns), but this has been the only one capable of making me feel angry and sick.

The worst thing is that so many idiots are piling to defend it. I don’t know if being shielded in the anonimity of the Internet makes people assholes, and desensitivizes them of terrible stuff. Maybe they are this horrible in real life.

Fuck.

BoggiDWurms
8 years ago

@Summer
I think it’s both. If there is one thing about the internet I “love” more than any other part it is how it reveals people’s true nature.

Snowy
Snowy
8 years ago

We have very few rules here on reddit; no spamming, no cheating, no personal info, nothing illegal, and no interfering the site’s functions. Today we are adding another rule: No suggestive or sexual content featuring minors.

Yay! They banned r/preteengirls. About time stupid reddit.

Summer
Summer
8 years ago

r/preteengirls has been banned.

🙂

kladle
kladle
8 years ago

Have the other subreddits been banned? The redditbomb thing has 10+ more “jailbait” groups listed on it.

kladle
kladle
8 years ago

Also from the somethingawful thread anonymoose posted, somebody claims that:

That was the mod of r/beatingwomen. He was caught by border officials trying to get to Mexico in connection with a few disappearances of women in Texas a few months back.

O_O holy shit

Lyn
Lyn
8 years ago

Kladle: O_O

I kindof want to go and read that thread now…but I also really really don’t want to.

bostonbetagirl
bostonbetagirl
8 years ago

All of the preteen subreddits have been shut down, not just preteengirls.

Lyn
Lyn
8 years ago

Wow – that, like, gives me hope for humanity!

ithiliana
8 years ago

So am I just naive–I would have thought the “nothing illegal” might have stretched to cover no sexual imagery of children.

ithiliana
8 years ago

I just went over and read a bit at SRS where they talk about the change in policy and what they have done in the past. (post is here: http://www.reddit.com/r/blog/comments/pmj7f/a_necessary_change_in_policy/)

Here is a list of all the subreddits that have been shut down:

For those wondering what’s been taken down:
/r/teen_girls
/r/TeenGirls
/r/pro_teen_models
/r/preteen_girls
/r/TeenGirls
/r/JailbaitArchives
/r/JailbaitVideos
/r/TrueJailbait
/r/niggerjailbait
/r/ChestyBait
/r/bustybait
/r/cutegirls
/r/asianjailbait
/r/JustTeens
/r/JailbaitJunkies
/r/jailbait_nospam
/r/jailbaitgw
/r/nudistbeach
/r/Purenudism
/r/teens
/r/Thenewjailbait
/r/trapbait
/r/malejailbait
/r/malejailbaitarchives
/r/lolicon
/r/assbait

as reported by : http://www.reddit.com/user/muppethead

Good grief, I hate that kind of formatting with a bloody blazing passion (forums or whatever they call it over there–hate it hate it hate it. *flees back to Dreamwidth*

BoggiDWurms
8 years ago

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Let’s celebrate with some heroic music I found the other day! 😀

But, my fellow Manboobzers, the battle is not over yet.

kladle
kladle
8 years ago

I have a feeling that this isn’t the end of things, unfortunately. Given that Reddit’s moderation is pretty much non-existent I predict that a lot of the subreddits will pop up again under new names. I wouldn’t be surprised if they didn’t even get all of them this time around. /SRS, David, and everybody else who’s been on Reddit’s ass are going to have to be vigilant and make sure they keep their word about having this stuff on the site. At least now we have their policy to point to if it does reemerge.

TG Moxley
TG Moxley
8 years ago

I have to say, it was pretty glorious watching the SomethingAwful goons compile the RedditBomb and then see the effects of it within only a few hours. A good old fashioned Goon Rush is a fine sight to behold.

thebewilderness
thebewilderness
8 years ago

I sent an email to the owners of the site at two. Did anyone else?

ScrappyB
ScrappyB
8 years ago

This post appeared on r/beatingwomen in response to the shutdown spree:

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Stay classy, MRAs.

Snowy
Snowy
8 years ago

Ewww

jumbofish
8 years ago

well thats just pleasant

/sarcasm

denelian
8 years ago

thanks, guys. lots of kids have gone thru worse.

but yay that reddit grew something that may one day become a spine and some ethics. however hazy they may be…

denelian
8 years ago

and omg why the hell did i go read that post ???

i can only speak for myself, but i am NOT a whore, and the last guy who tried to treat me as one received a broken arm and some cracked ribs for his efforts. the ONLY person who gets to define me is ME, and all the assholes in the world won’t change that.

Bostonian
8 years ago

So sorry we interfered with your leering at children, assholes.

P. S. not everyone is on the side of the leering assholes, and some of us are armed and already pissed off.

Pecunium
8 years ago

I went to look at the beatwomen reddit, and discovered that I can’t up/downvote comments.

Which makes me think the comments there may be a better guide to the sentiments of the denizens than in other reddits.

This is both pleasing, and appalling. It’s appalling because, well those are some fucked up sentiments. It’s pleasing because with 1,200 people they can’t get more overt support for the shit they say.

Amused
8 years ago

This post appeared on r/beatingwomen in response to the shutdown spree:
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Stay classy, MRAs.

… but all rape accusations are false. Of course.

ithiliana
8 years ago

@Amused: but all rape accusations are false. Of course.

And women who do not immediately enthusiastically consent to a cup of coffee in a stranger’s hotel room in a foreign country at 4 a.. are…………….creating a culture of fear and implying that women are weak and are accusing all NICE GUYS TM of being rapists…..

Falconer
Falconer
8 years ago

Kirbywarp:

Main reason I said that was because there was some satement in an AVFM thingy that said that they wanted the UN to ensure that “no laws designed to protect minors should be used to prosecute them.” I still have no idea what they were getting at with that…

thebewilderness:

Kirby, I think they are talking about the children who were charged with child porn for sexting pictures of themselves to each other.

It occurred to me in the shower this morning that I was going at it backwards.

When the sexting thing blew up, there was a lot of huffing and puffing from authorities (principals, parents, legislators, etc.) about the girls who photographed themselves. That’s who I was considering, the girls who photographed themselves as a subset of the victims of exploitation.

The problem for my argument is, those photos got out onto the web because someone distributes them. In the case of the sexting photos, many boys aren’t trustworthy with nude photos sent in privacy because they boast to their buddies about what studs they are. See, this girl totally sent me photos!

I think the MRA line about “prosecuting minors” is there to protect boys who forward pictures of their girlfriends to their buddies, and that the girls who take these photos of themselves haven’t been considered at all. (I also don’t think they’re considering anybody but straight, cis boys because their ideas of gender are severely blinkered.)

Kirby, when I replied to you about why should we prosecute the subjects of the photos I hadn’t considered that minors are sometimes involved in distribution. I’m sorry.

Shadow
Shadow
8 years ago

This post appeared on r/beatingwomen in response to the shutdown spree:
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Stay classy, MRAs.

You know, my boys and I were pissed that we got subpoeaned as witnesses for some DV situation that we broke up. After that post Ima walk to the stand with a fuckin smile on my face. I would love to see good ol’ Patrick try that shit out in the open. He’ll find out soonfast just how unmanly he is.

PosterformerlyknownasElizabeth

Patrick Bateman was a fictional character, not a man to live down to.

Bagelsan
Bagelsan
8 years ago

I’d actually be okay with prosecuting minors who distribute porn of other minors, just not okay with prosecuting them as adults or pedophiles. Invasion of privacy or something, I don’t know — but teenage boys are absolutely old enough to know better than to forward a private photo around the school. :

BoggiDWurms
8 years ago

This post appeared on r/beatingwomen in response to the shutdown spree:
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Stay classy, MRAs.

Charming as always.

FelixBC
FelixBC
8 years ago

About that r/beatingwomen post. I’m pretty damned sure that they don’t speak for the men I know well, and they wouldn’t be thanked for thinking they do. Seems like they’re the ones who hate men (all pedophiles, all the time! and violent!), not us feminist types.

kirbywarp
kirbywarp
8 years ago

So wait… about that r/beatingwomen post… The guy gets through explaining that no matter what women do, men will always be lusty and creepy and wanting-to-rapey, so tough shit… then concludes with: “You. Are. Whores.”

The fuck? How… he was just talking about how men are salivating monsters unable to control base urges, only desiring to fuck and rape, and somehow that leads to the conclusion that women are the unsavory ones? Fuck… If this guy were correct, I’d have to seriously consider becoming the man-killing feminist these guys want me to be.

Bostonian
8 years ago

“If this guy were correct, I’d have to seriously consider becoming the man-killing feminist these guys want me to be.”

Quoted for truth.

belledame222
8 years ago

“If this guy were correct, I’d have to seriously consider becoming the man-killing feminist these guys want me to be.”

Seriously.

belledame222
8 years ago

(Waits for resident trolls to come in and have a vapor orgasm about how we’re all COMING TO KILLZ0RZ THEM)

cloudiah
cloudiah
8 years ago

Speaking of r/beatingwomen and all men being all wanting-to-rapey all the time, please see this clip from Fox News’ Liz Trotta on sexual abuse in the military: http://mediamatters.org/blog/201202120002
Money quote:
“So, you have this whole bureaucracy upon bureaucracy being built up with all kinds of levels of people to support women in the military who are now being raped too much.” (Formerly, I guess women were raped “just right?”)
Anyway, apparently men merely being in “close contact” with women is what makes them all wanting-to-rapey. So, that’s solved.

red_locker
8 years ago

So, apparently, I’m a slavering beast, and women are evil for provoking me?

How illuminating. /sarcasm

How are people begining to monitor Reddit more and more, now? I have a feeling that while we have won a victory, there is more that is yet to come.

Explore nature
8 years ago

Both boys and girls must have unique gender specifications and they must be consistent with each others sexuality from younger ages, that is not wrong. They must raise in a heterosexual way. Parents must teach them to accept the real nature of sexuality from younger ages. We must protect children from pedophiles because of sexually abusing them may complicate their future sex life.

Holly Pervocracy
8 years ago

Man, what if homosexuality is chosen, what if it isn’t natural? Absolutely nothing suggests this is true, but, you know, just to play along with this shit, what if?

It still doesn’t do any goddamn harm to anybody.