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Reddit’s pedophile problem in the spotlight again: Goodbye, r/jailbait, hello r/preteengirls

Well, not so okay, really.

UPDATE: Reddit has now removed “all subreddits that focus on sexualization of children.” And it only took them six years to realize that maybe catering to peodophiles was not such a good idea.

Yet another Reddit pedophilia explosion, this time centering around r/preteen_girls, a subreddit which is evidently filled with sexualized photos of preteen girls. (You thought the banning of Reddit’s Jailbait subreddit solved the problem?  Nope; Reddit still hosts numerous subreddits catering to pedos.)

The subreddit came under some criticism elsewhere on Reddit a couple of days ago, and countless creeps leapt to its defense.

I don’t have the stomach to dig into this one, but ShitRedditSays is on the case.

Here are screenshots of a bunch of comments defending the subreddit, the pictures, and creepiness itself, collected by SRS regular littletiger. They’re all pretty repugnant, but this one really takes repugnance to a new level:

Here’s an SRS thread discussing the screenshots and the controversy in general.

Many of the defenders of r/preteen_girls have responded to the criticism by angrily asserting that the pictures there aren’t nude or pornographic. Which is not, actually, true, as this SRS thread makes clear. Indeed, here is a screenshot of the incredibly creepy discussion that ensued in r/preteen_girls when one nude picture got posted. (Note: this screenshot shows a small censored thumbnail of the nude picture in question.)

Naturally, all this led to yet more highly upvoted pedophilia jokes, something Reddit already has quite a surplus of.

(Thanks to SRS once again for pointing me to this comment.)

Here’s a discussion of the original thread (in r/wtf) in which some questioned the propriety of Reddit hosting a forum devoted to suggestive and possibly pornographic pictures of children; and another SRS thread highlighting one of the creepier r/preteen_girls defenders. (And if you want more, here’s that guy’s highly disturbing comment history.)

For more on Reddit’s pedophilia problem, see my previous posts on the r/jailbait controversies.

Reddit used to be owned by Conde Nast. It is still owned by Conde Nast’s parent company Advance Publications. Why would this publishing giant, which owns dozens of media properties ranging from the New Yorker and Vanity Fair to the uber-wholesome Sunday newspaper supplement Parade, want to associate itself with a site that continue to host forums devoted to sexualized photos of underage girls?

NOTE: None of the links in this post go to r/preteengirls itself; they are all to discussions of it elsewhere.  None of them link to any of the pictures in question, though one, as I noted, contains a censored thumbnail image of one picture posted there.

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Posted on February 11, 2012, in creepy, hypocrisy, misogyny, pedophiles oh sorry ephebophiles, reddit, that's not funny!, Uncategorized. Bookmark the permalink. 106 Comments.

  1. Wow – that, like, gives me hope for humanity!

  2. So am I just naive–I would have thought the “nothing illegal” might have stretched to cover no sexual imagery of children.

  3. I just went over and read a bit at SRS where they talk about the change in policy and what they have done in the past. (post is here: http://www.reddit.com/r/blog/comments/pmj7f/a_necessary_change_in_policy/)

    Here is a list of all the subreddits that have been shut down:

    For those wondering what’s been taken down:
    /r/teen_girls
    /r/TeenGirls
    /r/pro_teen_models
    /r/preteen_girls
    /r/TeenGirls
    /r/JailbaitArchives
    /r/JailbaitVideos
    /r/TrueJailbait
    /r/niggerjailbait
    /r/ChestyBait
    /r/bustybait
    /r/cutegirls
    /r/asianjailbait
    /r/JustTeens
    /r/JailbaitJunkies
    /r/jailbait_nospam
    /r/jailbaitgw
    /r/nudistbeach
    /r/Purenudism
    /r/teens
    /r/Thenewjailbait
    /r/trapbait
    /r/malejailbait
    /r/malejailbaitarchives
    /r/lolicon
    /r/assbait

    as reported by : http://www.reddit.com/user/muppethead

    Good grief, I hate that kind of formatting with a bloody blazing passion (forums or whatever they call it over there–hate it hate it hate it. *flees back to Dreamwidth*

  4. Let’s celebrate with some heroic music I found the other day! :D

    But, my fellow Manboobzers, the battle is not over yet.

  5. I have a feeling that this isn’t the end of things, unfortunately. Given that Reddit’s moderation is pretty much non-existent I predict that a lot of the subreddits will pop up again under new names. I wouldn’t be surprised if they didn’t even get all of them this time around. /SRS, David, and everybody else who’s been on Reddit’s ass are going to have to be vigilant and make sure they keep their word about having this stuff on the site. At least now we have their policy to point to if it does reemerge.

  6. I have to say, it was pretty glorious watching the SomethingAwful goons compile the RedditBomb and then see the effects of it within only a few hours. A good old fashioned Goon Rush is a fine sight to behold.

  7. I sent an email to the owners of the site at two. Did anyone else?

  8. This post appeared on r/beatingwomen in response to the shutdown spree:

    Stay classy, MRAs.

  9. well thats just pleasant

    /sarcasm

  10. thanks, guys. lots of kids have gone thru worse.

    but yay that reddit grew something that may one day become a spine and some ethics. however hazy they may be…

  11. and omg why the hell did i go read that post ???

    i can only speak for myself, but i am NOT a whore, and the last guy who tried to treat me as one received a broken arm and some cracked ribs for his efforts. the ONLY person who gets to define me is ME, and all the assholes in the world won’t change that.

  12. So sorry we interfered with your leering at children, assholes.

    P. S. not everyone is on the side of the leering assholes, and some of us are armed and already pissed off.

  13. I went to look at the beatwomen reddit, and discovered that I can’t up/downvote comments.

    Which makes me think the comments there may be a better guide to the sentiments of the denizens than in other reddits.

    This is both pleasing, and appalling. It’s appalling because, well those are some fucked up sentiments. It’s pleasing because with 1,200 people they can’t get more overt support for the shit they say.

  14. This post appeared on r/beatingwomen in response to the shutdown spree:

    Stay classy, MRAs.

    … but all rape accusations are false. Of course.

  15. @Amused: but all rape accusations are false. Of course.

    And women who do not immediately enthusiastically consent to a cup of coffee in a stranger’s hotel room in a foreign country at 4 a.. are…………….creating a culture of fear and implying that women are weak and are accusing all NICE GUYS TM of being rapists…..

  16. Kirbywarp:

    Main reason I said that was because there was some satement in an AVFM thingy that said that they wanted the UN to ensure that “no laws designed to protect minors should be used to prosecute them.” I still have no idea what they were getting at with that…

    thebewilderness:

    Kirby, I think they are talking about the children who were charged with child porn for sexting pictures of themselves to each other.

    It occurred to me in the shower this morning that I was going at it backwards.

    When the sexting thing blew up, there was a lot of huffing and puffing from authorities (principals, parents, legislators, etc.) about the girls who photographed themselves. That’s who I was considering, the girls who photographed themselves as a subset of the victims of exploitation.

    The problem for my argument is, those photos got out onto the web because someone distributes them. In the case of the sexting photos, many boys aren’t trustworthy with nude photos sent in privacy because they boast to their buddies about what studs they are. See, this girl totally sent me photos!

    I think the MRA line about “prosecuting minors” is there to protect boys who forward pictures of their girlfriends to their buddies, and that the girls who take these photos of themselves haven’t been considered at all. (I also don’t think they’re considering anybody but straight, cis boys because their ideas of gender are severely blinkered.)

    Kirby, when I replied to you about why should we prosecute the subjects of the photos I hadn’t considered that minors are sometimes involved in distribution. I’m sorry.

  17. This post appeared on r/beatingwomen in response to the shutdown spree:

    Stay classy, MRAs.

    You know, my boys and I were pissed that we got subpoeaned as witnesses for some DV situation that we broke up. After that post Ima walk to the stand with a fuckin smile on my face. I would love to see good ol’ Patrick try that shit out in the open. He’ll find out soonfast just how unmanly he is.

  18. Patrick Bateman was a fictional character, not a man to live down to.

  19. I’d actually be okay with prosecuting minors who distribute porn of other minors, just not okay with prosecuting them as adults or pedophiles. Invasion of privacy or something, I don’t know — but teenage boys are absolutely old enough to know better than to forward a private photo around the school. :\

  20. This post appeared on r/beatingwomen in response to the shutdown spree:

    Stay classy, MRAs.

    Charming as always.

  21. About that r/beatingwomen post. I’m pretty damned sure that they don’t speak for the men I know well, and they wouldn’t be thanked for thinking they do. Seems like they’re the ones who hate men (all pedophiles, all the time! and violent!), not us feminist types.

  22. So wait… about that r/beatingwomen post… The guy gets through explaining that no matter what women do, men will always be lusty and creepy and wanting-to-rapey, so tough shit… then concludes with: “You. Are. Whores.”

    The fuck? How… he was just talking about how men are salivating monsters unable to control base urges, only desiring to fuck and rape, and somehow that leads to the conclusion that women are the unsavory ones? Fuck… If this guy were correct, I’d have to seriously consider becoming the man-killing feminist these guys want me to be.

  23. “If this guy were correct, I’d have to seriously consider becoming the man-killing feminist these guys want me to be.”

    Quoted for truth.

  24. “If this guy were correct, I’d have to seriously consider becoming the man-killing feminist these guys want me to be.”

    Seriously.

  25. (Waits for resident trolls to come in and have a vapor orgasm about how we’re all COMING TO KILLZ0RZ THEM)

  26. Speaking of r/beatingwomen and all men being all wanting-to-rapey all the time, please see this clip from Fox News’ Liz Trotta on sexual abuse in the military: http://mediamatters.org/blog/201202120002
    Money quote:
    “So, you have this whole bureaucracy upon bureaucracy being built up with all kinds of levels of people to support women in the military who are now being raped too much.” (Formerly, I guess women were raped “just right?”)
    Anyway, apparently men merely being in “close contact” with women is what makes them all wanting-to-rapey. So, that’s solved.

  27. So, apparently, I’m a slavering beast, and women are evil for provoking me?

    How illuminating. /sarcasm

    How are people begining to monitor Reddit more and more, now? I have a feeling that while we have won a victory, there is more that is yet to come.

  28. Both boys and girls must have unique gender specifications and they must be consistent with each others sexuality from younger ages, that is not wrong. They must raise in a heterosexual way. Parents must teach them to accept the real nature of sexuality from younger ages. We must protect children from pedophiles because of sexually abusing them may complicate their future sex life.

  29. Man, what if homosexuality is chosen, what if it isn’t natural? Absolutely nothing suggests this is true, but, you know, just to play along with this shit, what if?

    It still doesn’t do any goddamn harm to anybody.

  30. Hey, I agree with nature-boy! Well his last sentence at least. We should protect kids because, well it’s bad for them.
    And there is no context!

    But how do you raise a kid to be heterosexual?

  31. Plenty of children have been sexually abused under the pretext of teaching/forcing them to be heterosexual. :(

  32. Both robots and clones must have unique specifications and they must be consistent with each others sexuality from younger ages, that is not right. They must raise in a robosexual way. Supercomputers must teach them to accept the real unnature of sexuality from younger ages. We must protect clones from humans because of sexually amusing them may not complicate their future sex life.

  33. Hey, I agree with nature-boy! Well his last sentence at least. We should protect kids because, well it’s bad for them.

    Except the “evil” which he wishes to prevent isn’t psychological, physical, or emotional trauma, it’s their own queerness.

  34. @HP&DSC: My question was half rethorical and half sarcastic, and implied to respect the “don’t abuse kids, especially sexually”.

    @exploreunnature: why can’t humans amuse the clone? And clones are humans! (clones of humans at least) Equality for all!

  35. Emetique Necrotica

    “Waaahhh let us be assholes!!11″.

    I guess none of these fucking pricks have little sisters/cousins/nieces/whathaveyou, because if they did, guaranteed they wouldn’t greenlight that bullshit. Then again, I wouldn’t put it past them, because nothing surprises me anymore.

    I have a seventeen year old sister and a cousin who’s turning 12 years old in June. For me, it’s difficult to perceive either one of them as anything else but children. Granted my little sister will be “of age” come August, eighteen is a tricky age because it’s your first year as a legal adult, but you’re still vulnerable as ever because you believe that your recent passage into adulthood means you’re invincible. Naivety attracts the perverts who make believe that they can evade the stigma of being such on a technicality, despite that they still are, in fact, predators. My little sister is a smart girl, and tough when necessary, but that doesn’t immunize her against the sickos. Tons of intelligent women are coaxed into “compromising” scenarios and exploitation by perverts. Never think you’re infallible against being sexually taken advantage of because you can never know…

    My little cousin is a preteen, but to me, she’s still a baby. I find myself many times needing to remind myself that she’s already experiencing puberty. She seems so…fragile and innocent, but knowing what freaks inhabit this planet, that makes her a target for them. They see a child, one who is still naive about sex, so they think that because she doesn’t know any better they can fool her into being taken advantage of under false pretenses of simply “being friendly”. It’s disgusting.

    So, no, while they aren’t RAPING little girls, they’re encouraging it. By enabling this behavior makes you no better than said rapists. I sure hope none of these assholes never have children, and if they do, their children are removed from them, for the child’s sake.

    Where does it stop? So they’re not RAPING preteens, yet, by ogling inappropriate photos of them on a website for the “lulz” until it becomes habit for them to ogle preteen girls on the internet. Ogling begets voyeurism. Voyeurism begets stalking, and stalking begets direct danger, and making lewd comments about underaged and pubescent girls on Reddit already qualifies you as the lowest life form.

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