Devastating new “fly” slogan gives MRAs the edge in the war of ideas
Well, my fellow feminists, we might as well pack it in. For the forces arrayed against us have a devastating, nay brutal, new slogan.
The Counter-Feminist Agent of Change (CFAC) who calls himself Fidelbogen explained in a recent post how this “wicked new slogan” came to him. Also, what the slogan is:
This occurred to me in a flash of inspiration today. I grabbed the first scrap of paper I could find and jotted it down:
Feminism spreads lies like a fly spreads germs.
You like it? I thought you would.
So . . . spread it around, and make it part of the “buzz”!
Get it? Buzz. Like, “buzz” means “what people are excitedly talking about.” But it is also the sound that a fly makes.
See, Fidelbogen is working with TWO DIFFERENT MEANINGS at once. It’s like juggling two things at once, only with your brain. No wonder some MRAs regard his as the finest mind in the Men’s Rights movement today.
Several days after The Bogen (that’s what I like to call him) came up with this masterful slogan, one artistically minded MRA took it to a whole nother level – by using the slogan in the graphic above.
As The Bogen explained in his second post about his new slogan:
Memes can take many forms, and what you see here is among the most elemental and effective of those forms.
I am posting this graphic image for anybody on the planet who wants to fly away with it and spread it around.
First with the “buzz” thing, and now “fly away with it.” LIKE FLIES DO! The man is a genius.
Hell man, you could even print it on T-shirts and coffee mugs. Certainly you can post it on your website. Best of all, you can print it on little squares of paper and leave these in all manner of places where all manner of people will happen upon them.
Oh shit. T-shirts? Mugs? Motherfucking SQUARES OF PAPER?! He’s going CROSS-PLATFORM!
This is the sort of thing that will land in people’s brains, and buzz around there, and never leave!
I explained the buzz thing already, didn’t I?
It will find its way into the general buzz of conversation, too!
Just in case you’ve forgotten. Buzz = what people are talking about. ALSO THE SOUND FLIES MAKE.
I still cannot get over how much of a genius move that whole “buzz” thing is. I don’t know how he does it.
I kindly thank St. Estephe, the blog keeper who created this. I am honored to see my words so skillfully combined with pictures, and made ten times more effective by that method.
It’s true. It takes a tremendous amount of skill to find a picture of a fly, and then to put words next to it.
How can we possibly compete with this?
I tried to come up with some slogans of my own. But the best I could do was this:
I hope you guys have some better ideas.
Try QuickMeme if you want to make a little graphic. I’ll post any especially good ones here!
EDITED TO ADD: Some more graphics that are Fidelbogenesque in their brilliance. One from Scar, one from me.
Posted on February 5, 2012, in antifeminism, girl germs, grandiosity, I'm totally being sarcastic, kitties, MRA. Bookmark the permalink. 696 Comments.
good point. relating tangents back to the main topic is a common feminist trick.
No, that was me. Duh.
Are you a homophobe or something?
Kathleen: Summer told me about it! Isn’t it awesome! My girlfriend and FWB all snuggled on my big bed and watched it, and then we watched My Little Pony. :)
Oh, and I forgot the other things that are on my bookshelf: my Pinkie Pie doll and stuffed Cthulhu Squamous Squish (Squish for short). Say hi! :)
Your point?
i dont feel like i had a point beyond ‘nephrite is reading way to much into things’
So, I’m wondering what the best troll cage math would be:
NWO and DKM?
Brandon and MRAL?
Nephrite and…???????????????????????
I’m reading the second Hunger Games book actually. That series is rife with misandry!
Yay for bookshelves!
Battle Royale, Koushun Takami
Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass, Lewis Carroll
Speak, Laurie Halse Anderson
The Moorchild, Eloise McGraw
On Writing, Stephen King
What Happened to Lani Garver, Carol Plum-Ucci
The Man Who Mistook His Wife for a Hat, Oliver Sacks
The Harry Potter series, J.K. Rowling
Watchmen, Alan Moore
Silence of the Lambs, Thomas Harris
John Dies at the End, David Wong
American Psycho, Bret Easton Ellis
Unwind, Neal Shusterman
The Ramona series, Beverly Cleary
Teatro Grottesco, Thomas Ligotti
Room, Emma Donoghue
Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth, Grant Morrison
Nephrite: No, I’m really sorry. The way that journals control information access is unconscionable. Information WANTS to be free– especially publicly funded information, like a lot of peer-reviewed articles are. :( But I don’t really have another option! You can take my word for it, you can take Alas a Blog’s word for it (full disclosure– I got the studies from there but checked them out myself), or you can find a way to look them up.
Laura: I love Stephen King’s On Writing! Have you read Ray Bradbury’s Zen and the Art of Writing? It’s good and very similar.
Ozy: I didn’t like the first one quite so much (although the constant ‘isn’t so-and-so here?’ reminded me a lot of some of my gaming groups…), but man, I adored the sequel. Maybe because the lady (whose name has slipped my mind) is twenty kinds of awesome? Or the poor paladin having to be distracted from his less lawful compatriot’s activities….
Yo, you realize that most crimes don’t need video tape of violent resistance to be convicted for, right?
also, my dad is a more legit nerd than any of you because when bladerunner first came out he refused to let the people he saw it with walk out of the theater
I actually think, for the record, that suggesting abused boys have sex with each other is in poor taste. (I mean, some of them eventually will, and godspeed to them. But “why don’t you just fuck each other?” is not something I would say to a group of abused boys.)
But it’s a minor bit of poor taste compared to the poor taste of belonging to a hate movement.
I think my favorite bit is the sorceress needing a barricade and deciding to use THE BODIES OF THE DEAD BARDS. XDDDDDDD
…there’s a first one? o.O
Nephrite, I just hope you aren’t sharing your opinions about women with those boys.
And not just for women’s sake. For the boys. So that when they grow up in a world where they’ll be working with women, they’ll be in social circles with women, they’ll have women as clients or customers, they’ll have female neighbors, and most of them will be loving women–so they can fucking cope with that.
To be honest with you, the MRM has hurt very few women. (Although God knows they’d like to; are you even going to deny that?) What it’s really hurt is men. Men being taught that they have no chance in a world of women, men being taught to be constantly on the defensive, men being taught that their gender has no resources and no hope and their only options are violence or despair.
Although I have no doubt that MRA ideas have gotten a few women abused, I think they’ve put many more men into an absurd, pathetic state of confinement in their own basements.
Okay, false accusations of abuse aside, the MRM has helped a lot of men and boys. And no, I won’t stop helping boys just because great almighty feminism thinks my methods are evil. Nice try with the concern trolling though. I know what I do is helping. I’ve seen it.
It’s laughable your attempts to just make us give up and let feminism handle it. Let women handle the children right? We are teaching them the truth.
Feminism claims that 1 in 6 women are raped. Perhaps you should tell feminist organizations to tone down that claim since all it’s doing is teaching women to constantly be defensive, that their gender has no hope and despair is the only option.
Except, as you know, teaching the truth of the world isn’t the same as telling somebody there’s no hope.
If I felt there’s no hope, why the fuck am I an MRA? Why the fuck after the life I’ve been through, do I keep fighting?
Millions of men are dying because of feminism. That doesn’t mean there’s no hope. It means we just have to fight harder.
“also, my dad is a more legit nerd than any of you because when bladerunner first came out he refused to let the people he saw it with walk out of the theater”
OMG, that is so my dad. Have you played the Blade Runner game?
But it’s a minor bit of poor taste compared to the poor taste of belonging to a hate movement.
So quit.
Damn, I forgot to include John Dos Passos’s America trilogy on my list. But hey, now I have an excuse to list my DVDs:
Jacob’s Ladder
American Psycho
Wall-E
Mary Poppins
Batman Begins
The Dark Knight
It
Breakfast on Pluto
Watching the Detectives
2001: A Space Odyssey
Batman: The Animated Series Season 1
Batman: Mask of the Phantasm
Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker
…millions of men are dying because of feminism. Really.
And I also think the “boys should have sex with each other” was in poor taste, and I think volunteering to help boys is really cool! :)
For the record, I never said ‘boys’. I said men. It was Captain Pervy Pants (Nephrite) who changed it to ‘boys’.
Anyway, would hooking up with a hot dude be the perfect way to ‘neg’ your girlfriend for ‘abusing’ you by not putting out?
Yo, you realize that most crimes don’t need video tape of violent resistance to be convicted for, right?
Most crimes don’t rely on a single witness statement from the accuser involving an act that might or might not be illegal depending on how she felt that day.
@Ozy: I haven’t read that, but I love Ray Bradbury. I’ll definitely have to check that out.
@joanna
i refuse to play games based on sf stories that arent ‘i have no mouth and i must scream’ because absent the direct involvement of the writer, theyre going to screw things up
And I also think the “boys should have sex with each other” was in poor taste, and I think volunteering to help boys is really cool! :)
Thank you.
No, that was me. Duh.
Are you a homophobe or something?
No. I just don’t think joking about abused children is funny.
I could also go into my children’s book collection, since I have part of it with me for my children’s lit class.
Ozy: It’s just The Gamers. I think… yep. It’s much lower budget and the only woman is… not very nice. I liked Dorkness Rising a lot more.
@Sharculese: No, no. It rocks. I mean it. A bit aged at this stage but it was a solid game and true to Blade Runner.
actually a lot of prosecutions come down to a single eyewitness statement…
I love “I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream”! I’ve never played the game, though.
I’m actually not a member of The Feminist Movement, per se. I mean, it’s not like I have a membership card or go to official events or get a newsletter.
I’m simply an individual with interests like combating sexual violence, improving women’s healthcare, and dismantling harmful gender roles.
There are other individuals like me whom I like to hang out with.
Together, we form the feminist movement.
Dude, you were the one who brought up having sex with kids.
You’re fucking sick.
He tried this already. Last time it was “Millions of men die each day”, and DSC shut him down by pointing out fewer people total die (By a wide margin). X3
Nephrite: It is really not hard not to rape someone. I’ve been having sex with girls for quite a while and haven’t raped any. The key thing here is to make sure that the people you are having sex with want to have sex with you!
Also, you are aware that men can be raped, right?
@Scarry
http://thepatriotdad.wordpress.com/national-debt-and-the-subtle-subversion-of-truth/
http://www.thereformedbuddhist.com/2011/10/how-national-organization-of-womens.html
http://human-stupidity.com/stupid-dogma/mens-rights-feminism/rape-and-murder-of-males-deemed-irrelevant
http://www.avoiceformen.com/feminism/government-tyranny/mens-health-the-forgotten/
for starters
“Millions of men die each day”
So that’s why there are so few men in the world today.
Seriously, what?
Were those links written by guys that died after the fact? If not, no dice, dude.
Keep trying.
Also, you are aware that men can be raped, right?
What? No!
Really?
Can you be any more condescending? That’s yet another assumption people have made here.
It’s feminism and the feminist state, justice system and society who doesn’t know men can be raped, and if they do know, they don’t care.
Millions of men are dying because of feminism.
Ye Gods, it really is like the Holocaust! Oh, wait, no it isn’t.
Were those links written by guys that died after the fact? If not, no dice, dude.
Keep trying.
So only if the man is DEAD, does an article count?
“It’s feminism and the feminist state, justice system and society who doesn’t know men can be raped, and if they do know, they don’t care.”
Would you have the balls to go to the authorities and report that you were raped? Honestly?
So unless you’ve actually DIED of homelessness, you can’t write about homelessness.
I notice that Ozyman writes about this stuff all the time (from a watered down “feminist’ perspective). I’m assuming that Ozyman is not dead.
I say this, Nephrite, because you KEEP GENDERING RAPE. People who are aware of male rape survivors, including many feminists, tend not to refer to survivors as “she”, at least not without acknowledging that male rape survivors also exist.
And nonbinary rape survivors, but I suppose that’s Advanced Class.
I’m actually not a member of The Feminist Movement, per se. I mean, it’s not like I have a membership card or go to official events or get a newsletter.
I’m simply an individual with interests like combating sexual violence, improving women’s healthcare, and dismantling harmful gender roles.
There are other individuals like me whom I like to hang out with.
Together, we form the feminist movement.
Yet this doesn’t apply to the MRM. You’ve all assumed so much of me simply because I’m a declared MRA.
If millions–meaning at least two million, right?–men die each day, then the US should run out of men in, like, three months.
(I actually did the math on this.)
I’m curious exactly how feminism is killing these men, though. Maybe Nephrite really does think hospitals have secret mangrinders.
I’ve personally been responsible for the death of 28,963 men.
Mostly just from being a woman in IT and taking food out of the mouths of more deserving men.
I say this, Nephrite, because you KEEP GENDERING RAPE. People who are aware of male rape survivors, including many feminists, tend not to refer to survivors as “she”, at least not without acknowledging that male rape survivors also exist.
And nonbinary rape survivors, but I suppose that’s Advanced Class.
I keep gendering rape in the context of the justice system and how IT treats rape, and who IT cares about.
I Want My Hat Back, Jon Klassen
Russell Hoban’s Frances series (I’ve got all of them except A Bargain for Frances)
The Poky Little Puppy, Janette Sebring Lowrey
Where the Wild Things Are, Maurice Sendak
Perfect the Pig, Susan Jeschke
The Sneetches and Other Stories, Dr. Seuss
Fox in Socks, Dr. Seuss
Several Mercer Mayer’s Little Critter books
Several Berenstain Bears books
One Morning in Maine, Robert McCloskey
The Monster at the End of This Book
Make Way for Ducklings, Robert McCloskey
Curious George, Margret and H.A. Rey
Amelia Bedelia, Peggy Parish
Strega Nona, Tomie de Paola
I also have a picture book adaptation of The Dark Knight, but really I only have that for my own amusement, because the changes made to make it suitable for children are really funny.
Please, try to keep up and pay attention.
Another assumption.
No, dude, we assume stuff of you because you’re an asshole.
Bored now. I want to go back to talking about books.
Protip: most of the women who write about being raped and abused have been raped and abused.
My bookshelf:
Artemis Fowl series (Eoin Colfer)
Runaways (Brian K. Vaughan and others)
Alanna and In The Hand of the Goddess (Tamora Pierce)
Kyonyuu Hunter, Kaseijin Deka, Sea People Anchovy (Yasunaga Koichirou — no, you haven’t heard of these, NOBODY has heard of these, he’s like some weird cult genius except the cult only has me in it)
Various things by William Sleator (the Interstellar Pig guy — he did other stuff too!)
Hunger Games series (Suzanne Collins)
The Space Trilogy (C.S. Lewis)
Nemi (Lise Myhre) (I bought these last two at the same time and put them next to each other to see if they’d kill each other)
Carrie (Stephen King)
Pepper Penwell and the Land Creature of Monster Lake (by ME!!)
And like a gazillion other things. That’s just what was on top.
Regarding what the thread was originally about (boy, it’s fun coming when there’s 200 comments), copying your message and leaving it lying everyone is a sure way to convert people. People certainly won’t just find it and mock the crap of it! Why, just ask Jack Chick!
It was Captain Pervy Pants (Nephrite) who changed it to ‘boys’.
Hey, since when was he promoted to equal rank with me?
Now, dude, this is how you don’t erase male rape survivors!
“Blah blah blah misogyny about rape. Of course, none of this applies to male survivors, who are lucky if their rape qualifies as being illegal. Blah blah misogyny.”
Sugar Booger, our assumptions are really more based in the fact that you’re a dick than they are in your MRA identification.
Seriously, Nephy, what would you do if you were raped?
The MRM is a lot smaller and a lot nastier.
Also, um… don’t you hate women? I’m surprised you’re upset by that allegation. Shouldn’t you be telling us “fuck yes, I hate women?” How are you offended by being told that you hate the people you hate?
You’ve said here that women don’t work, can’t drive, control a hate movement that controls the world, and are responsible for killing “millions of men each day.” Are you sure you don’t hate us?
Because if I thought all those things were true of a group, fuck, of course I’d hate them, and I wouldn’t be ashamed to admit it.
I am not ashamed to admit that the top row of my bookshelf (I have one, my fiancé has about 5 bookshelves) is predominantly Steve Jackson and Ian Livingstone Fighting Fantasy books.
A feminist claiming to not erase male rape victims.
Rich.
@Steph: Tamora Pierce is fantastic! I really need to start collecting the Circle of Magic trilogy.
@joanna
i am still skeptical
I mean series. It’s not a trilogy.
You’ve said here that women don’t work, can’t drive, control a hate movement that controls the world, and are responsible for killing “millions of men each day.” Are you sure you don’t hate us?
I have said those things haven’t I?
“I also have a picture book adaptation of The Dark Knight, but really I only have that for my own amusement, because the changes made to make it suitable for children are really funny.”
… w… wow. Now THAT I am very curious about.
I’m still unclear as to Nephrite’s stance on the ‘Catchy’ slogan about germs and lies.
Could you enlighten us, Nephy?
@Sharculese: Good old fashioned point n’ click detective game set in the Blade Runner universe. Can’t go very wrong =)
Yes, let’s keep pretending that points weren’t made, and ignore the links. This is how we prove we care about men!
An MRA talks about the suffering of men, feminist try desperately to turn this into a conversation about how they’re totally not faux-geeks.
Nephrite, do you hate women?
Because if you believe all the things you’ve said about women–and yeah, you did say those things, they are memorialized in actual letters that we can all go back and read–then it would be irrational for you not to hate them. And irrational for you to be offended when we call you a woman-hater.
I mean, shit, you can call me a Nazi-hater, you can call me a murderer-hater, you can call me an Ebola-virus-hater. I won’t be offended, because I understand that these are bad things and I am ready to admit that I hate them.
So… do you hate women?
Joker: “Did I ever tell you how I got this boo-boo?”