Devastating new “fly” slogan gives MRAs the edge in the war of ideas
Well, my fellow feminists, we might as well pack it in. For the forces arrayed against us have a devastating, nay brutal, new slogan.
The Counter-Feminist Agent of Change (CFAC) who calls himself Fidelbogen explained in a recent post how this “wicked new slogan” came to him. Also, what the slogan is:
This occurred to me in a flash of inspiration today. I grabbed the first scrap of paper I could find and jotted it down:
Feminism spreads lies like a fly spreads germs.
You like it? I thought you would.
So . . . spread it around, and make it part of the “buzz”!
Get it? Buzz. Like, “buzz” means “what people are excitedly talking about.” But it is also the sound that a fly makes.
See, Fidelbogen is working with TWO DIFFERENT MEANINGS at once. It’s like juggling two things at once, only with your brain. No wonder some MRAs regard his as the finest mind in the Men’s Rights movement today.
Several days after The Bogen (that’s what I like to call him) came up with this masterful slogan, one artistically minded MRA took it to a whole nother level – by using the slogan in the graphic above.
As The Bogen explained in his second post about his new slogan:
Memes can take many forms, and what you see here is among the most elemental and effective of those forms.
I am posting this graphic image for anybody on the planet who wants to fly away with it and spread it around.
First with the “buzz” thing, and now “fly away with it.” LIKE FLIES DO! The man is a genius.
Hell man, you could even print it on T-shirts and coffee mugs. Certainly you can post it on your website. Best of all, you can print it on little squares of paper and leave these in all manner of places where all manner of people will happen upon them.
Oh shit. T-shirts? Mugs? Motherfucking SQUARES OF PAPER?! He’s going CROSS-PLATFORM!
This is the sort of thing that will land in people’s brains, and buzz around there, and never leave!
I explained the buzz thing already, didn’t I?
It will find its way into the general buzz of conversation, too!
Just in case you’ve forgotten. Buzz = what people are talking about. ALSO THE SOUND FLIES MAKE.
I still cannot get over how much of a genius move that whole “buzz” thing is. I don’t know how he does it.
I kindly thank St. Estephe, the blog keeper who created this. I am honored to see my words so skillfully combined with pictures, and made ten times more effective by that method.
It’s true. It takes a tremendous amount of skill to find a picture of a fly, and then to put words next to it.
How can we possibly compete with this?
I tried to come up with some slogans of my own. But the best I could do was this:
I hope you guys have some better ideas.
Try QuickMeme if you want to make a little graphic. I’ll post any especially good ones here!
EDITED TO ADD: Some more graphics that are Fidelbogenesque in their brilliance. One from Scar, one from me.
Posted on February 5, 2012, in antifeminism, girl germs, grandiosity, I'm totally being sarcastic, kitties, MRA. Bookmark the permalink. 696 Comments.
THINGS HOLLY DID TODAY:
-Feed a boy who had dangerously low blood sugar
-Put a man’s broken arm in a splint and sling
-Call social services to arrange treatment for a mentally ill man
I think we can conclude from this that I am the better MRA.
I’m a virgin. Virgins can be pretty awesome.
Of course, as Sugar Booger demonstrates, they can also be totally asshats. I like to think that unicorns avoid that sort of virgin.
There is nothing wrong with virgins. I’ve slept with all sorts of lovely, intelligent, attractive, feminist virgins. Misogynists, however, are terrible. :(
THINGS NEPHRITE IS NOT DOING:
-Volunteering at a men’s shelter
-Staffing a suicide hotline for men
-Tutoring boys who are struggling in school
-Supporting men’s health initiatives
-Donating to male abuse survivor networks
-What men’s shelter?
-What suicide hotline for men (not run by women who encourage them to become manginas and worship the pussy)
-I actually do do this.
-Movember. What the fuck is it?
-If any existed.
I volunteer at a community center and help teach basketball to youths without fathers. They talk to me too and I hope them through their problems, and guess what, a lot of their shit comes from abusive mothers, favored sisters, manipulative girlfriends, teachers who punish them for the crime of being born male.
Don’t fucking tell me I don’t do anything. You asshats whine on a site all day. I’m here for 2 hours and I have no life?
Fuck you.
Swerving out of the way to avoid the fucking women drivers out there. Chivalry. What the fuck is it?
OK, you can’t possibly be serious.
THINGS JOANNA DID TODAY:
-Hung out with guy friends without teasing them with my sluttiness.
Seriously, that one took a lot of effort on my part guys. I know you’re all totally impressed right now.
Asshat: Does that mean you’re leaving? Shall I cue the exit music? Can you stick the flounce or do you want to came back and call me a bitch some more?
I fed a male cat today. I also chauffeured a male roommate.
“You asshats whine on a site all day.”
Sugar Booger, are you aware of the thing called irony?
obvious troll is obvious.
You guys can have him, I’m going to eat dinner.
So tell your fellow feminists that are talking right now, to stop with the “oh you’re a loser who can’t get a date” insults. Hmmm?
If you care so much.
Again. You can claim to care about whatever you want, but actions speak louder than words.
You can claim that fire fighters should fire under qualified women, but you take no action, no lobbying, no protests, to make sure this happens.
You can claim you don’t like virgin-shaming, but you just sit back and smile when your fellow members do it.
The ideal solution would seem to be for them to hook up with each other and make sweet man love.
No bitches involved. A win for everyone!
The ideal solution would seem to be for them to hook up with each other and make sweet man love.
No bitches involved. A win for everyone!
If an MRA said the solution for abused girls was to make sweet lesbian love. What would the Manboobz community say?
I’m being serious here.
Those are real fucking boys you just talked about.
Don’t fucking tell me I don’t do anything. You asshats whine on a site all day. I’m here for 2 hours and I have no life
Fuck you.
Why so serious?
Nephy darlin’, you still haven’t told me how many years you served in the Armed Forces.
Nephrite: 1in6.com. You can say thank you now. :)
Oh fuck, you guys, he grew a mustache. I’m gonna guess he didn’t give any money. Just the mustache. That’ll do.
And as for the “there’s no such thing”–then start one! You think feminists were just sitting around on the Internet… er, mailing each other letters, I guess… talking about how men should all be beaten and raped, and then the Fairy Godmother gave them some fully built and staffed women’s shelters as a magical gift?
…oh fuck, you probably think exactly that.
Asshat: You, serious? HA! (And I am fully good with man and/or woman love so long as there is enthusiastic consent on both sides)
There is nothing worse than talking about “real fucking boys” as if they could be *gasp* homosexuals!
It’s a funny world we live in.
They controlled for that in the study, dude. Methods 101. They trained both the woman and the man to say exactly the same things. Men still got better deals.
Show me the study?
Dude, I challenge you to a nerd duel. I bet my bookshelf contains at least seven fantasy authors you’ve never heard of, AND that I’ve heard of all of your top five favorites.
Did I ever claim to be a nerd? (Assumptions, assumptions. Yet another time I’ve not said something that people here have assumed.) It’s nice that your boyfriend has a bookshelf with names of authors. Congratulations! I can read the names of authors off of books too!
I bought some Girl Scout cookies today, because I am an evil scorpion lady furthering the Feminist Agenda.
lol, you cannot possibly be serious
Oh fuck, you guys, he grew a mustache. I’m gonna guess he didn’t give any money. Just the mustache. That’ll do.
And women did a slut walk.
Or started a pink ribbon campaign.
Oh my, you just wore a pink ribbon!
We start our own campaigns, and you mock us.
I thought you WANTED us to do activism? And when we do, you boil down an actual real campaign about raising money for cancer to: “he grew a mustache”.
Wait a sec, some guy’s girlfriend not putting out on demand (boohoo) is not the equivalent of a woman getting her jaw broken by her boyfriend for not putting out.
You don’t seem to know what ‘abused’ means.
why do so many of our trolls write like they just got kicked off the high school debate team? is this a thing with mras?
Why so serious?
Because they dismissed actual work with boys? Because they talked about abused boys as if they’re just sexual fantasies?
@Scar: Abused means not being a woman, of course! What are you, new?
Nephrite: My boyfriend tends more towards the gaming/webcomics end of nerddom (although he totally got me addicted to Oglaf, which is awesome). I hold down the fantasy/SF side of the fort myself. :)
Also, how charming of you to assume I’m a girl! Who’s making an ass out of u and me now?
In general, people concerned about the proper spelling of Wil Wheaton’s name are nerds.
Also:
Ayres, Ian, “Fair Driving: Gender and Race Discrimination in Retail Car Negotiations,” Harvard Law Review, volume 104 (4), February 1991, pages 817-872.
Ayres, Ian and Siegelman, Peter. “Race and Gender Discrimination in Bargaining for a New
Car.” American Economic Review, June 1995, 85(3), pp. 304″“21.
Harless D.W., Hoffer G.E., Do Women Pay More for New Vehicles? Evidence from Transaction Price Data, The American Economic Review, Volume 92, Number 1, 1 March 2002, pp. 270-279.
Fiona Scott Morton, Florian Zettelmeyer, Jorge Silva-Risso, Consumer Information and Discrimination: Does the Internet Affect the Pricing of New Cars to Women and Minorities?, Quantitative Marketing and Economics, Volume 1, Issue 1, Mar 2003, Pages 65 – 92
Really? I guess the support I gave to the Prostate Cancer Foundation of New Zealand was all imaginary then.
Huh.
Oh well, if it isn’t appreciated…
besides being dumb and lazy, what prompted you to single out an organization that has been under heavy criticism from feminists for the entirety of last week?
why do so many of our trolls write like they just got kicked off the high school debate team? is this a thing with mras?
How about we actually debate then?
I’ve been mocked, I’ve had my volunteering mocked. The boys I’ve worked with that you don’t even know, were mocked.
When I get angry that you’re mocking abused boys, that gets mocked.
Even Ozyman, who claims to care about the men hasn’t said a word against that. You don’t have to like me to care about the boys I work with do you? I thought you wanted to help people, not hate people right?
Well, did you raise any money for cancer? Or did you just grow the mustache, feel self-satisfied, and leave it at that?
Me, I worked as first aid staff on a breast cancer walk, and the people there weren’t walking just to say they walked and go home happy. They were giving, in some cases, thousands of dollars apiece. (I didn’t have thousands but I did donate some money as well as my time.)
If you think a breast cancer walk means you literally just walk, well… says more about you than us.
Well, did you raise any money for cancer? Or did you just grow the mustache, feel self-satisfied, and leave it at that?
What do you think?
Why did you assume the worst?
If you think a breast cancer walk means you literally just walk, well… says more about you than us.
I don’t. I was pointing out to you how all activism can be boiled down to something that, out of context, seems ridiculous. Like how you said “he grew a mustache”.
Leonato: Neighbors, you are tedious.
Dogberry: It pleases your Worship to say so, but we are the poor duke’s officers. But truly, for mine own part, if I were as tedious as a king, I could find it in my heart to bestow it all of your worship.
Leonato: …All thy tediousness on me?
We assume the worst because you’re kind of an asshole, dude.
Personally, I give 1% of my income to relief of neglected tropical diseases in Africa, because I’m a charity hipster like that. (Plus additional for-the-fun-of-it donations, mostly to RAINN, Planned Parenthood, and Just Detention.)
Asshat: Jesus god, you’re living up to your name. Hey, let’s look at the fist page on MY kindle: Three books in the Bookman series by Lavie Tidhar, two by Jack Weatherford (his bio of Genghis Khan and The Secret History of the Mongol Queens), The Gumshoe, the Witch and the Virtual Corpse by Keith Hartman (a completely bonkers near future urban fantasy noir that’s so good!), World War Z, and the Palidin’s Legacy books by Elizabeth Moon (new one coming later this month, so I’m re reading). History and fantasy – I’m such a geek!
because formal debate is a tepid simulacrum of human interaction reserved for the type that worships power for powers sake
or
i can’t debate with a tantrum, brah
take your pick.
Why so serious?
Because they dismissed actual work with boys? Because they talked about abused boys as if they’re just sexual fantasies?
Oh lighten up, Francis. You were pissed because they accused you of not doing anything to help men or boys.
Nephrite, I just hope you aren’t sharing your opinions about women with those boys.
And not just for women’s sake. For the boys. So that when they grow up in a world where they’ll be working with women, they’ll be in social circles with women, they’ll have women as clients or customers, they’ll have female neighbors, and most of them will be loving women–so they can fucking cope with that.
To be honest with you, the MRM has hurt very few women. (Although God knows they’d like to; are you even going to deny that?) What it’s really hurt is men. Men being taught that they have no chance in a world of women, men being taught to be constantly on the defensive, men being taught that their gender has no resources and no hope and their only options are violence or despair.
Although I have no doubt that MRA ideas have gotten a few women abused, I think they’ve put many more men into an absurd, pathetic state of confinement in their own basements.
For example, I can boil down Ozyman’s work at NSWATM as being “just typing on the keyboard”.
(please don’t take “basement” pejoratively. I’m sure there are also many MRM-influenced men hiding from the world and missing out on life in ground-level and upper-story dwellings.)
I think that if you’d given money, you’d have said so. So your “hmm, what do you think?” is stalling for time before you nerve yourself up to just lie.
Is there something about the “dias” in Ozy’s name that’s difficult to type? Couldn’t you just shorten it to Ozy?
For people who find me boring, when I suggested that you were all faux geeks, suddenly you’re falling all over yourselves to give me book names, author names, and everything. I thought I was just “trollin'” I thought I was boring, and you didn’t care about what I thought of you?
I thought “negging” didn’t work?
And also, if you’re that fucking concerned with how total strangers spell Wheaton’s name, perhaps you might want to take a look at Wheaton’s Law?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wil_Wheaton#Wheaton.27s_law
Yeah, I remember that big detailed lists of names I gave you.
Oh wait. That didn’t happen. Silly me, I just can’t remember things in my little feminist mind!
I think that if you’d given money, you’d have said so. So your “hmm, what do you think?” is stalling for time before you nerve yourself up to just lie.
I thought I was always lying? Now, apparently I’ve always been telling the truth.
It’s like if you said you participated in the breast cancer walk. I think most people would assume that involves raising money.
That you assumed it must not because I’m an MRA says a lot more about how bitter and jaded feminists have become.
Showing you just how many ways we’re better than you ain’t exactly fucking you, buddy.
Misspelling Wil Wheaton’s name is misandry.
Asshat: I was actually more concerned by your implication that women don’t read fantasy (your ‘subtle’ jab about ‘your boyfriend’s bookshelf’). I referenced my own reading, which includes a lot of fantasy at the moment. Not a lot of SF, but there’s not much written SF that I’ve liked lately.
@ozyman if you want to continue this discussion, then you actually need to provide me with links since I can’t just pluck out studies whenever I want. I don’t have access to what you do.
Given the history of feminist lies, (which again, nobody has so far refuted) I want to have something I can read now.
ooooooorrrrr, youre at a blog full of people who jump at every opportunity to talk about nerd shit?
but hey, truth is malleable, so whichever answer best justifies your conviction that girls have cooties, son
KathleenB | February 5, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Asshat: I was actually more concerned by your implication that women don’t read fantasy (your ‘subtle’ jab about ‘your boyfriend’s bookshelf’). I referenced my own reading, which includes a lot of fantasy at the moment. Not a lot of SF, but there’s not much written SF that I’ve liked lately.
Why do you care what I think?
@Kathleen: You wanna go old school with SF. Philip K Dick ftw ^_^
Wil Wheaton himself is misandry. Making fun of that perfect male example he played on Star Trek? Clearly he is saying men are worthless!
Oooh, are we posting our bookshelves now? The books that are on the top shelf of my bookshelf are:
Neal Stephenson, Snow Crash
Octavia Butler, Parable of the Sower
An old issue of Bitch magazine
Philip K Dick, Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep?
Margaret Atwood, Alias Grace
Bill Willingham, Thessaly Witch For Hire
Kurt Busiek, Astro City Local Heroes
The Faded Sun, CJ Cherryh
The Marx and Engels Reader
The complete Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy, Douglas Adams
When The Center Is On Fire, Diane Harriford and Becky Thompson
Delilah Lane, Noah Brand
The Lies of Locke Lamora, Scott Lynch
Why Orwell Matters, Christopher Hitchens
His Majesty’s Dragon, Naomi Novik
Passage, Connie Willis
Till We Have Faces, C. S. Lewis
The Confidential Clerk, T. S. Eliot
The Complete Ann Bradstreet
A Poulin’s Contemporary American Poetry. Third Edition
A Great and Terrible Beauty, Libba Bray
Assorted Muppets videos
Fight Club the movie
The Gamers: Dorkness Rising
Young Frankenstein
The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy TV series
ooooooorrrrr, youre at a blog full of people who jump at every opportunity to talk about nerd shit?
Except they’re telling me that this is proof against what I said. They aren’t saying it in a vacuum, they aren’t even claiming it’s in a vacuum. It’s a direct response to my little “neg”. (If you believe in that stuff)
“Why do you care what I think?”
You seem to imply that we should, what with you yelling your opinions and stuff.
you are boring tho. that’s a given.
That’s a lot of words and I notice not one of them is “I gave money.”
Shit, man, it’s not like you have to give money to prostate cancer research or whatever. (Personally, I think that support services for patients and survivors are actually a better place to put money than research.) It’s just… why you gotta be so fucking weasely about it?
You hate women way more than you like men. Fuckin’ own up to it.
Nephrite: Why are you trolling? And you’re still ignoring my question.
Sorry, I can’t hear you over the sound of me being in the army for six years and you refusing to tell me how long you served, while pulling up the old ‘draft’ argument.
I am quite sorry that you don’t have access to peer-reviewed studies, dude. But all I have is peer-reviewed studies! They are the gold standard of research, after all. So hie thyself down to the college library and look them up, or take my word for it.
“ooooooorrrrr, youre at a blog full of people who jump at every opportunity to talk about nerd shit?”
Your point?
Personally I just like talking about the books I have. :)
@Pervy
I’m not the one who joked that abused boys’ should have sex with each other as a solution.
Again, if an MRA was joking about abused girls and women, and all they needed was some hot lesbian sex. What would the response here be?
The Gamers: Dorkness Rising
OMG, I so love that movie!
I am quite sorry that you don’t have access to peer-reviewed studies, dude. But all I have is peer-reviewed studies! They are the gold standard of research, after all. So hie thyself down to the college library and look them up, or take my word for it.
You’re assuming a lot about where I live and what I have access to.