When is a slut not a slut? When he’s a dude.
I did a search for PUA and this showed up. So, fuck it, I'm going with it.
When is a slut not a slut? When he’s a dude. So says the (He)artist(e) formerly known as Roissy, in yet another post of his trying to prove that his brand of Pick-Up Assholery is fully proven by SCIENCE!
His evidence in this case? A recent study of speed dating that showed that (straight) women, in addition to being attracted to attractive men (duh!), also seem to be attracted to men with high “sociosexuality” ratings. “Sociosexuality,” for those not fully immersed in the SCIENCE!! of dating, is basically someone’s propensity for casual sex.
In other words, the study found that guys who do a lot of casual dating tended to do better at casual dating.
Heartiste/Roissy puts it this way:
Men who have high sociosexuality (HSS) are more attractive to women because the suite of characteristics associated with HSS suggest prior experience bedding women and possession of mating skills that attract women.
It’s akin to a form of preselection for men, minus the actual women he’s banging being physically present at his side to aid in the alpha judging process that all women, consciously or not, impose on their suitors.
In a very loose sense, high male sociosexuality is male sluttiness.
If you strip out the PUA nonsense about the “alpha judging process,” all this seems fairly self-evident, if not simply tautological. Guys who’ve been with a lot of women will probably do better with women in the future than guys with no experience who view women as strange alien creatures. (Note: In all this, we’re only talking about straight people; PUAs don’t seem aware that gay people exist, outside of their own fantasies of hot bi girl threesomes.)
It’s at this point that Heartiste/Roissy amps up the assholery:
Male sluttiness is not equivalent to female sluttiness. It is more difficult for a man to be slutty that it is for a woman owing to the discrepancy in worth between sperm and egg, so people justifiably perceive male sluts to have higher quality mate value, and higher quality mating skills, than female sluts for whom the act of sexual conquest is merely synonym for being easy.
In other words, it’s bad to be a female slut, but great to be a male slut:
[T]he study results confirm the validity of game when its conclusions find that male sociosexuality is a relatively powerful predictor of attractiveness to women, even to women looking for long-term relationships.
Not only can this SCIENCE!! of game help to get dudes laid – it can basically save the world from evil fat chicks.
It’s vital to readers to get this scientific information validating game out there, because there are a lot of doubters and haters who are blinded by what they won’t see. Sometimes, men need to know that there is an experimental foundation supporting all these seduction techniques and peculiarities of female behavior. It’s not necessary to know this stuff to start gaming chicks out in the field right now, but for men with a cynical bent or shy disposition, it helps to know that there are rules that govern human interaction. It may be the boost they need.
Turning former nerds into wily lotharios will help to put those uppity female sluts in their place:
[A] moment of candor. This blog is first and foremost a source of self-amusement, but it is also a true and real desire to teach and to see men succeed sexually and emotionally with women. Men who become better at attracting women increase their options in the mating market. Men with increased options cause women to behave better. Women behaving better redounds to the benefit of families, and to society.
And by “behave better”, I mean the whole panoply of awful modern female behavior: cheating, cock carouseling, divorcing on a whim, eat pray loving, straycationing, spinstering, attention whoring, voting and fattening up into repulsive dirigibles.
Yep, he did slyly insert “voting” into all that. Sneaky!
So slut it up, fellas! It’s the only way to put those evil lady sluts in their place. And, thereby, save the world from sex-having, vote-casting slatterns.
Posted on February 3, 2012, in alpha males, bad boys, beta males, creepy, grandiosity, I'm totally being sarcastic, misogyny, PUA, reactionary bullshit, sex, sluts. Bookmark the permalink. 637 Comments.
How about stopping your trip down this dead end of yours and going back to my question I asked of you earlier? Unless you want to making it gut-wrenchingly obvious that you’re just in it for the trolls…
I’d love to. Tell your peanut gallery to stop derailing, and I’ll gladly talk with you.
Go for it, Captain Bathrobe.
@bathrob
I know you’re male. Roissy is male too. It doesn’t make him any less a traitor.
@Scar
funny how they always cite the highest achieved intelligence to further their claims of superiority, but not the lowest eh?
denial is so smart!
@Crumb
MRA screeds can be summed up like this most of the time:
“@*&!*@&!CUNTSSLUTSHYPERGAMY**&##&^@!LYINGMISANDRISTFUCKS@&#^^#^&#&@**@!…….also the sky is sometimes blue and 2+2=4″
Hee, we’re derailing?
We haven’t had a troll this fun since No Marriage.
@Nephrite:
The internet doesn’t work like that, honey. Text doesn’t drown out your typing. Be a big boy and stop procrastinating. (Was that condescending enough?)
Yeah, ignore the threats of violence and the STDs, and the fact that a dude paying for a fuck probably isn’t going to take the remote effort to ensure that fuck is good for you (Understandably, in context), the human trafficking, the threat of law enforcement seizing you for working, the low pay and low hours, and just say another stupid thing.
That *does* actually happen in Africa, as does men raiding and pillaging other villages, and a number of other reasons why it’s the women doing the farming. Frankly, I’m not going to tell someone who I’m pretty sure is a racist fuck the other big thing that means african women are growing the food.
But if women are crap at everything else (as you claim) what else can they do?
P.S. If sex work is so much fun, why aren’t you doing it?
‘kay, if wanting to eat is greedy, you can go ahead and stop working dangerous and low status work too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009%E2%80%9310_Canada_women%27s_national_ice_hockey_team
Melody Davidson revealed after the gold medal game that the team left the Olympic Village for two exhibition games against the Vancouver Northwest Giants boys AAA midget team during the Olympics. The first game was held the night before the opening ceremonies. The final game was on February 19.[6]
Women vs boys for training.
@hellkell:
Damn I’ve missed a lot in my absence. Ah well, no time like the present to make up for lost time. :)
‘kay, if wanting to eat is greedy, you can go ahead and stop working dangerous and low status work too.
Please, if you’re a woman you don’t know what it means to starve. Pussy Pass anybody?
Roissy is a traitor? To who? What’d he do?
*gets popcorn*
@Nephy
Have you dug that ditch for me yet? or posted that video of you on the leg press while doing complex math?
you’re a man…it comes naturally after all so hop to it!
bathrob
I know you’re male. Roissy is male too. It doesn’t make him any less a traitor.
See, now I’m genuinely offended. You compared me to Roissy. Sir, I demand satisfaction!
(throws down gauntlet)
@Molly
Read back.
@Nephy
Have you dug that ditch for me yet? or posted that video of you on the leg press while doing complex math?
you’re a man…it comes naturally after all so hop to it!
Entitled woman much?
Oh, and MRAL, African fighting has got plenty of woman soldiers, as well as girls in the child soldiers. They’re actually, factually forced into the armies, same as men. I know you got your view of the rest of the world from movies like Iron Man, but the fact is that women are also in that group of folks dragged off by a warlord to fight. It sucks to live in Africa. It also does not work like you think it does.
Kirby–you have missed some things, but it’s good to see you!
You see, Molly, Roissy is a super seekrit feminist! Who is against women voting, like all seekrit feminists…
“Please, if you’re a woman you don’t know what it means to starve. Pussy Pass anybody?”
60 percent of the world’s hungry are women according to this link.
http://www.thp.org/learn_more/issues/know_your_world_facts_about_hunger_and_poverty?gclid=CPiFxoSug64CFUSo4Aod9VTy2w
I like how he doesn’t address any of the points that, well, point out he’s wrong.
[quote]Please, if you’re a woman you don’t know what it means to starve. Pussy Pass anybody?[/quote]
No. Nobody has one. That is one of the many idiotic myths your stupid-ass movement invented, MRAL, and that you bought into because despite your cushy life being handed your tuition for Brown by your mom, you’re mad at the rest of the world. Fuck off and die.
One of the members of the women’s Olympic hockey team must have turned Nephy down for a date or something.
Anyone want some tea with their popcorn? I just made a fresh pot.
The whole year I was unemployed, I never had to use food stamps. I just sat on the curb and cried, and men pelted me with sandwiches!
For the past four years, I’ve never had to date, travel, or dress nice to attract sex partners. I simply pick up the phone and a fresh, virgin hipster boy is delivered directly to my door!
I’ve also never, ever been turned down for sex because I was fat, too clingy, or “just not my type”.
/sarcasm
Asshat: I don’t know what it means to starve? Gee, that summer where we were lucky to get one meal a day must have been a hallucination! Thanks ever so much, it’s good to know that I just made up what it feels like to be hypoglycemic and not eat. That’s a load off my mind!
Choose your weapon, Nephrite, or be called a coward! My seconds will call on your seconds.
@Nephrite:
Still procrastinating, eh?
(Interesting side note, though not particularly relevant. The citation on the wiki excerpt Nephrite posted does not support the sentence that cites it… :P No mention of a game against an AAA boys team.)
Rutee, don’t bother explaining Africa to this simpleton. If it’s not white, cis, and straight, it doesn’t exist to these fools.
Nephrite is MRAL?
I can actually explain the hockey thing but he’d prolly just dismiss it as some conspiracy. Ozy’s whole thing actually applies here. It’s about training and practicing skills. There’s no pro hockey league for women, there aren’t actually anything close to it once you get out of college. While boys and men get constant practice against people of quality skill and strength, the women’s team doesn’t b/c they’re the best in Canada and while girls hockey is increasing in popularity, the number who get to that elite level are really low. Also I doubt that the Canadian women were playing to win. It’s also possible that there was checking during those games, which while women CAN check, they aren’t ALLOWED to by the IOC (and no it’s not feminism’s fault) therefore they might be less used to it.
Either way 2 games is a tiny sample space, and it’s really about practicing against people who are well trained and skilled… it’s not like they had arm wrestling contests… >_>
Also, Molly, did you notice that you’re the FIRST PERSON he’s spelled the name right? o_O
I’m Amy, Cassandra is Casandra, CB is Bathrob, KathleenB is Kathy, Ozymandias, is Ozyman…
he DOES like you Molly! XD
Cassandra: Given the kind of sex they seem to be having a Fleshlight would make a perfectly acceptable substitute on a sensory level if they weren’t so obsessed with using sex to prove dominance over women.
A flehslight is likely to be better. They can give it practical direction, which I can’t see them being able to do with women… that would require communication; which requires seeing women as people.
MRAL gets stuck in situations and just swears… so far Nephrite has managed to turn everything around xD
Ami: It’s not even an “eye for an eye” since he’s never personally attacked us either…
He’s attacked me. It was a response to a comment I left in his blog. He doesn’t know it was me (I used a cloaked e-mail addy).
@Ami:
Dang, and he didn’t even use my name when he responded to me. I want to be Kirbiwall! :3
Agh! I’M A SLUT! I’M A SLUT! I’VE HAD MORE THAN TWO SEX PARTNERS AND I WEIGH 257 POUNDS AND HAVE COLD SORES AGH GET AWAY!
@ Ami
Yeah, the hockey thing is pretty obvious if you understand how athletic training works. It’s also why the majority of elite male players come from traditionally hockey-focused areas. and why it’s more fun to play any sport against people slightly better than you if you’re trying to improve.
Ami: Efas google searched and found Pecunium’s picture and posted it to go “you don’t look tough, so therefore you have no credibility to be talking about strength, survival, etc”
I don’t think he worked that hard. I know where that photo came from, and it’s from my photography blog. And he didn’t know how to use it (to make insults/threats work, they have to be plausible. I know what I look like, and I know how effective/vulnerable I am).
But yes, I think that mocking Roissy for his looks, validates him, and gives ammunition to anti-feminists. It’s not as if we don’t have the tools to take them down when they show up, we ought not give the ammutniion to take away and use elsewhere.
Well that was fun, was just waiting my date to get ready.
Friday night, remember?
Take care losers.
(Don’t worry Kirby baby, I’ll be back)
*clings onto Kirby*
NO! MINE!
Is she still recharging at the power socket from last night?
@ CassandraSays and Ami:
Problem is that he thinks that is incontrovertible proof that men are better than women. In sports. Any talk of the relative privilege men have in having constant competition would be lost on his poor soul.
I thought men were the 99%
How does he have a date? o_O
Doesn’t that make him a traitor too? -_o
Maybe his date is male?
I’ll give Nephrite 5… no… 10 minutes before he’s done with his “date.” :)
*falls over due to clinging*
I’m saving my money for this (only two more weeks to go omg!) :D
He has a date with some online porn. Since he’s posting from his dorm room he can only do it while his roomate is out.
What shall it be, Nephrite? Pistols at ten paces? Fisticuffs? Penile fencing? I’ll have you know I am a world-class penile fencer. You won’t even get near me!
So… how much you wanna bet that his date will take just enough time to eat supper and he’ll be back in about 1-2 hours? xD
Penises at dawn!
@Nephy
Nope. I just want you to put your money where your mouth is. You say men are naturally stronger and smarter. So prove it. Show me you can do all those things. Show me all your male friends can do them too.
I vote for penile fencing! With pictures!
What shall it be, Nephrite? Pistols at ten paces? Fisticuffs? Penile fencing? I’ll have you know I am a world-class penile fencer.
Sorry, I don’t think it’s fair to fight with a sword when you have a dagger.
Let’s hope this woman dodges the bullet and sneaks off at some point.
@Jen
I don’t date feminists. Too bad for you.
Cya.
I put $10 on 1-2 hours.
Well or virtual chocolate cupcakes made with extra virgin coconut oil. Frosted with Madagascar vanilla bean buttercream frosting.
I have baking on my mind.
That was a fast date. Did you get dumped? o_O
“Is she still recharging at the power socket from last night?”
Every time an MRA waxes lyrical about sexbots I get this mental image of what will happen when the bots attain true sentience and go on a creepy owner killing spree.
@Ami:
His date might be male. He did call me “Kirby baby” after pinpointing me as male… Who knows?
Another related thing to the hockey thing. In the world of Go, generally Japan, China, and Korea have the best players. They have schools dedicated to catching potential pros at an early age (like before 13), and have a bunch of already strong people to teach and play against. The US has some vague Go teams, but not nearly in the same league.
Nephrite and his ilk would say the Asians are better at Go just because. If he wanted to assemble a team to go to a tournament, he would be any Asians over any non-Asians automatically and call this “equality.” Meanwhile, if someone asked him to judge each player by their strength and not by their race, he would rant about how “Asians are just naturally better at Go” and “You just want everyone to be the same strength, you live in a fantasy!”
The argument is just as stupid… (P.S. Any Go players here? :P)
Yah, I would imagine the poor girl has some seriously compromised self esteem to date someone who thinks she’s less than human being. did you tell her she’s inferior, yet?
“I don’t date feminists. Too bad for you.”
I conciser that a win on my part.
That WAS a fast date. Did your hand stand you up?
He might be Brandon, trying for a new, trollier him. Also explains the phantom date.
Personally, I was sleeping with my fuckbuddy this afternoon. That leaves the night free for gaming. Or it WOULD, if the gaming group hadn’t mysteriously disappeared. *grumbles*
I guess I’m gonna be busy making my Shadowrun character…
Well, he didn’t say anything *new*, but I think he may have set a record for speed.
Ah, running away, then? And you call yourself a man…
he has a date AND claims to have a big dick???
LOL…Trolls. XD
make sure to dig a ditch for your date now or she wont think you’re a real man!!! or worse…A BETA!
@Kirby
Koreans are genetically superior because of Starcraft! xD