When is a slut not a slut? When he’s a dude.
I did a search for PUA and this showed up. So, fuck it, I'm going with it.
When is a slut not a slut? When he’s a dude. So says the (He)artist(e) formerly known as Roissy, in yet another post of his trying to prove that his brand of Pick-Up Assholery is fully proven by SCIENCE!
His evidence in this case? A recent study of speed dating that showed that (straight) women, in addition to being attracted to attractive men (duh!), also seem to be attracted to men with high “sociosexuality” ratings. “Sociosexuality,” for those not fully immersed in the SCIENCE!! of dating, is basically someone’s propensity for casual sex.
In other words, the study found that guys who do a lot of casual dating tended to do better at casual dating.
Heartiste/Roissy puts it this way:
Men who have high sociosexuality (HSS) are more attractive to women because the suite of characteristics associated with HSS suggest prior experience bedding women and possession of mating skills that attract women.
It’s akin to a form of preselection for men, minus the actual women he’s banging being physically present at his side to aid in the alpha judging process that all women, consciously or not, impose on their suitors.
In a very loose sense, high male sociosexuality is male sluttiness.
If you strip out the PUA nonsense about the “alpha judging process,” all this seems fairly self-evident, if not simply tautological. Guys who’ve been with a lot of women will probably do better with women in the future than guys with no experience who view women as strange alien creatures. (Note: In all this, we’re only talking about straight people; PUAs don’t seem aware that gay people exist, outside of their own fantasies of hot bi girl threesomes.)
It’s at this point that Heartiste/Roissy amps up the assholery:
Male sluttiness is not equivalent to female sluttiness. It is more difficult for a man to be slutty that it is for a woman owing to the discrepancy in worth between sperm and egg, so people justifiably perceive male sluts to have higher quality mate value, and higher quality mating skills, than female sluts for whom the act of sexual conquest is merely synonym for being easy.
In other words, it’s bad to be a female slut, but great to be a male slut:
[T]he study results confirm the validity of game when its conclusions find that male sociosexuality is a relatively powerful predictor of attractiveness to women, even to women looking for long-term relationships.
Not only can this SCIENCE!! of game help to get dudes laid – it can basically save the world from evil fat chicks.
It’s vital to readers to get this scientific information validating game out there, because there are a lot of doubters and haters who are blinded by what they won’t see. Sometimes, men need to know that there is an experimental foundation supporting all these seduction techniques and peculiarities of female behavior. It’s not necessary to know this stuff to start gaming chicks out in the field right now, but for men with a cynical bent or shy disposition, it helps to know that there are rules that govern human interaction. It may be the boost they need.
Turning former nerds into wily lotharios will help to put those uppity female sluts in their place:
[A] moment of candor. This blog is first and foremost a source of self-amusement, but it is also a true and real desire to teach and to see men succeed sexually and emotionally with women. Men who become better at attracting women increase their options in the mating market. Men with increased options cause women to behave better. Women behaving better redounds to the benefit of families, and to society.
And by “behave better”, I mean the whole panoply of awful modern female behavior: cheating, cock carouseling, divorcing on a whim, eat pray loving, straycationing, spinstering, attention whoring, voting and fattening up into repulsive dirigibles.
Yep, he did slyly insert “voting” into all that. Sneaky!
So slut it up, fellas! It’s the only way to put those evil lady sluts in their place. And, thereby, save the world from sex-having, vote-casting slatterns.
Posted on February 3, 2012, in alpha males, bad boys, beta males, creepy, grandiosity, I'm totally being sarcastic, misogyny, PUA, reactionary bullshit, sex, sluts. Bookmark the permalink. 637 Comments.
Nephrite: And I’m not arguing anything, I’m asking you to clarify what you said. If your clam is that men tend to be taller than women, back it the fuck up. If you claim is that all men are taller than all women, you’re full of shit and I will point at you and laugh.
Mental experiment! If Yao Ming were to have a daugher, would we expect her to be taller than average, or shorter than average? Or can we not assume at all?
Oh, hey MRAL. Go back to fucking off.
Oh and we all know wikipedia IS THE DIFINITIVE source of all knowledge.
Go back to school and learn how genetics, environment and hormones actually work in the real world
How is this possible, then?
or
tall women and short men exist. Just because they aren’t the average doesn’t mean they aren’t there.
BTW, welcome to Earth!
@Kathy
Okay I’m going to talk slow because you’re clearly an idiot.
Men are taller than women.
This is fact. You can pretend it’s not true and lalala with your feminist “facts” but reality says otherwise and no amount of your lies will change that.
If you were a man you’d probably be six foot ten. So male you would still be taller than female you.
Do you get it yet?
@Cassandra Sailor Moon! :D Sailor Mercury is an Ami :D
Ok so Nephrite is an idiot then, as well as most likely MARL.
Eh, I already wrote it, might as well use it.
Dude, you’re not doing yourself any favors by pretending they’re not in the same manosphere (which is all Futrelle ever says). Frankly, kicking out the less comically stupid subsection out of your idiot group is a downside; now the MRM is 99% hateful, ignorant idiots and the last 1% is ignorant idiots, instead of the weirdo split you had before where some of them were just sex crazy assholes. As fucked up as their views on sex and the world are, they’re *still* closer to reality than that Matrix shit you idiots like to spread.
Also, unrelated: I thought everyone else hated the Matrix aside from one movie. Why do you guys keep invoking its spectre?
No, you’re more like the People’s Front of Judea, and they’re more like the Judean People’s Front.
I also seriously doubt that you’re actually six feet tall. I’m guessing, 5’8″ at most. Besides that the feminists on this site have a history of lying about themselves to “prove” things despite statistical and scientific evidence, women’s heights tend to be exaggerated because feminism wants this idea that men and women are exactly the same.
How is he not getting the difference between saying “men are on average taller then women” and “men are taller then women?”
Dude, you’re not doing yourself any favors by pretending they’re not in the same manosphere (which is all Futrelle ever says).
http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=avoiceformen%20chateau%20bullshit&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCIQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.avoiceformen.com%2Fsexual-politics%2Fgame%2Fchateau-bullshit%2F&ei=sJEsT-zECIr00gHi1ryRCw&usg=AFQjCNE5kpOkr6kAkR0X8gnJM2IcopXzMA&cad=rja
Maybe you should pay attention to more than just what that Mantard Futrelle whispers in your pussies.
Nephrite: And yet I’m taller than many men. You need to make your argument a little bit more clear here, because you’re just gonna keep banging your head into the fact that many women are taller than some men. There’s, like, evidence and shit.
He is stupid/ trolling.
@Kathy
Let’s try this again. How tall do you think you’d be if you had been born a man?
I think that Nephrite Yeqon has the Napoleon complex
How do they not get the difference? Because its a NUANCE and men can only think in black and white, amiright?
Hey Nephrite, do you believe in a night height and a day height?
Hi, MRAL. Nice try, asshole.
No, you’re more like the People’s Front of Judea, and they’re more like the Judean People’s Front.
Anti semitism.
Nice.
Yeah, I was wondering if MRAL’s latest sock was using Sailor Moon as a baseline for screen names or not.
I’d make a HipsteRutee joke about mainstream and Sailor Moon, but my favorite Magical Girl series is definitely Puella Magi Madoka Magica, so that’s just a thing I can’t do even as a joke XD
I should probably be Jupiter. But then, I always shipped her with Venus, and I’m not sure me and my girlfriend would work as Neptune and Saturn X3
Nephrite: Last doctor’s visit, I was six feet tall. I have no reason to lie here – one upping an asshat such as yourself is not incentive enough to exaggerate my height.
@nice guy
I’m 6’4″ thanks. But according to Kathy, I’m lying and I’m 5’4″ because men and women are exactly the same.
oh gods, once more with feeling:
FEMINISM DOES NOT TEACH THAT WOMEN ARE THE SAME AS MEN!
Feminism encourages equal treatment. That means we like being respected as human beings, with the same opportunities and rights that are afforded to men. Why is that so hard?
@Kathy
Defensive much?
Challenge accepted!
Nephrite: I have no clue – at a guess, based on the rest of my family, I would probably have been somewhere between 5’8 and 6’2.
Rutee, the height obsession makes me think it’s him. That and the unfettered pointless rage.
“If tall genes are passed down to both how come men are taller than women?” is the new “How is babby formed?” :D
@ Nephrite, sockpuppet much?
Nephrite: My, Name, Is. Kathleen. Please use it, or I will have to start calling you Asshat.
Feminism encourages equal treatment. That means we like being respected as human beings, with the same opportunities and rights that are afforded to men. Why is that so hard?
Equal treatment does not mean equal results. Feminism wants equal results. MRAs want equal treatment.
Feminism wants an equal number of male and female fire fighters on a squad. MRAs want the best people chosen so the least amount of people die in fires.
Feminism doesn’t care how many people die in fires as long as we pretend that women and men are equal.
There’s also the use of “womyn” and “feminist studies”, and the CassandraRage.
What “obsession”?
I wasn’t even the one who brought up genetics.
@Nephrite:
Guys that are 6’4″ are not obsessed by height.
“Feminism wants an equal number of male and female fire fighters on a squad.”
No. Feminism wants those women who are capable of the job, who meet the physical requirements and want to be firefighters to have the chance to be firefighters without getting harassed and dehumanized my men in the process.
*by
No. Feminism wants those women who are capable of the job, who meet the physical requirements and want to be firefighters to have the chance to be firefighters without getting harassed and dehumanized my men in the process.
http://www.avoiceformen.com/sexual-politics/fire/
Except that’s not what feminism actually pushes for.
“I also seriously doubt that you’re actually six feet tall. I’m guessing, 5’8″ at most. Besides that the feminists on this site have a history of lying about themselves to “prove” things despite statistical and scientific evidence, women’s heights tend to be exaggerated because feminism wants this idea that men and women are exactly the same.”
Omg, it keeps getting better.
Wikipedia has this cool chart of average heights by country. So if I was born a Brazillian man, I’d actually be *shorter*.
Nephrite: Okay, I am going to use small words here. You are arguing one of two things:
1) Men are always taller than women, all the time, no exceptions.
OR
2) That men tend to be taller than women.
If you are arguing 1, you are full of shit. If you are arguing 2, give some actual data (it shouldn’t be all that hard to find).
Another Inego Montoya moment provided by the manosphere. I do not think that word “average” means what he thinks it means.
Heavens forfend that I put personal experience up against SCIENCE, but yanno, men with round heels are not considered high value targets by the majority of women with a brain and an aversion to disease.
Nice. Label me somebody else so you can ignore my arguments. What “obsession”? I was talking about how PUAs and MRAs aren’t the same. I used height as a single example to explain genetics to Amy and you’re the ones who started talking about it. Kathy keeps mentioning how tall she is, not me.
Wikipedia has this cool chart of average heights by country. So if I was born a Brazillian man, I’d actually be *shorter*.
Convenient that men are listed as shorter in countries run by feminists isn’t it?
PUAs are a false flag operation by feminism to re-enforce their domination of the sexual economy and power over men.
PUAs are like the “bootstrappers” that dismiss the occupy movements, they think they’ve gamed the system when they’re just another player in the game.
When it comes to sex, all men are the 99%, women are the 1%.
Brazil is run by feminists? That will be news to the Brazilians. Also troll better, right now you just sound stupid, MARL.
So wait… does that mean Roissy is actually secretly a feminist or something? o_O
It’s Kathleen, dipshit, I mean MRAL.
You’d have to have an argument for us to ignore it.
According to that same chart, the average height for “All Americans” is 5 ft 4 1⁄2 in… which means even someone five foot eight is tall, if you’re going strictly by averages. I suppose this is why some six foot guys have told me that I am “really tall!”, even when I am having to tilt my head back to look up at them. :P
And Nephrite, are you like.. the stone… or the Sailor Moon villain? :D Are you going to turn good? :D Oh wait… Nephrite fell in love with Molly and that’s why he turned on Beryl… O:
MOLLY!!! WATCH OUT!!!
MRA: It’s not fair that women don’t have to do jobs that are dangerous and potentially life threatening yet men do. Women should do those jobs too!!!
Feminist: well, there are female figherfighters, female cops…
MRA: WHAT?!?! Wimminz can’t put out fires, they’re too weak to handle the hose or lift heavy men out of the building….look at that bitch struggle lolololz so funny hurrrderrderp!!1
Feminist: -_-
Way to ruin a perfectly good Sailor Moon villain’s name Nephrite…MRAL…whatever
Roissy is a super seekrit Feminist, yo!
Dear me, now he has to have the whole population statistics thingummy explained to him.
I don’t hold out much hope for this one.
@Quackers you noticed that too huh? :D
The only man I am taller than is MRAL, the rest I don’t notice/care about their height
Asshat: You really are that fucking stupid? How sad that the education system in your country has failed you so. But there remains hope! Read a few books, audit some science classes, and you may one day pull yourself from the muck of ignorance and into the joy of knowledge and understanding how the world actually works!
Bwhahahaha Ami xD
Nephrite was a total mangina. He gave up the alpha villain life for a dumbass girl.
then again, wasn’t Nephrite always a mangina since he took orders from Queen Beryl..a LADY???
@Amy Angelwing
The MRM has evidence that is going to be released soon when it is completed, that will prove Heartiste is not who he’s been claiming. I hope feminism is ready for their exposure to sunlight.
“Except that’s not what feminism actually pushes for.”
Really? Because I remember a news story where people were pushing to lower physical standards for professional firefighters (or cops, I don’t recall) who were women, and the women went on record as saying this was incredibly insulting for them, and that they want to push to meet the expectations that were initially set up for the job.
As for the story you posted, that woman may not have been qualified to do the job, but that doesn’t mean there aren’t women who are.That is of course assuming the story is true, given the source.
For example, men are on average, stronger then women. There are also women who build muscle and train in fighting sports and could kick the collective asses of the average man.
“Average,” doesn’t mean “always.”
Nephrite Yeqon has to be an anagram for something…
(Dun worry, Ami! I’m a fat hippo, which makes me love-proof! ;))
You can’t refute my studies so you talk about some “GRRRRL POOWWWEERRR” pablum from 20 years ago by a self-admitted radical feminist.
@Jen
You didn’t read that link did you?
@ hellkell
Also the random swipe at my hideousness. Either it’s MRAL or he has an equally evil twin.
@ Ami
Sailor Moon is from the 50s? I guess that would explain the drawing style.
“Convenient that men are listed as shorter in countries run by feminists isn’t it?”
Well, I guess that does explain why Swedish and Dutch men are so teeny.
@Quackers Zoicite was also a man that they turned into a woman on the US version. I wonder what that means XD
@Cassandra I said 90s o_O
Whatever, MRAL, it’s Friday in Boston, stop fucking around with us, and go find something else to do.
ok…so men are generally taller than women…
SO??? this matters why? you can do heavier, more dangerous jobs? ok…have fun getting hurt
wait…that’s not what you want is it? WHAT DO YOU WANT???? dO you WANT women to work dangerous jobs like men or not?
I did read the link. It was about a short women firefighter who was struggling. If the story is true, then she wasn’t fit to be a firefighter and she should be forced to meet the physical requirements or be fired.
Doesn’t mean that there aren’t women who could qualify if they trained for it.
I think it’s actually my Dad’s fault that I’m so short. Him and his damn short genes, corrupting my mother’s pristine daughter-hatching egg.
@Ami
MISANDRY THAT’S WHAT!!!!
not transphobia, or homophobia…nope. It’s not like that makes logical sense or anything
Asshat: You’re not actually gonna provide any backup for your claim that ALL MEN are taller than ALL WOMEN (unless that’s not what you’re claiming, you need to have this shit together BEFORE you post, makes the inevitable ‘citation needed’ so much easier to deal with), are you?
Nephrite, I’m taller than my husband. Which one of us doesn’t exist?