When is a slut not a slut? When he’s a dude.
I did a search for PUA and this showed up. So, fuck it, I'm going with it.
When is a slut not a slut? When he’s a dude. So says the (He)artist(e) formerly known as Roissy, in yet another post of his trying to prove that his brand of Pick-Up Assholery is fully proven by SCIENCE!
His evidence in this case? A recent study of speed dating that showed that (straight) women, in addition to being attracted to attractive men (duh!), also seem to be attracted to men with high “sociosexuality” ratings. “Sociosexuality,” for those not fully immersed in the SCIENCE!! of dating, is basically someone’s propensity for casual sex.
In other words, the study found that guys who do a lot of casual dating tended to do better at casual dating.
Heartiste/Roissy puts it this way:
Men who have high sociosexuality (HSS) are more attractive to women because the suite of characteristics associated with HSS suggest prior experience bedding women and possession of mating skills that attract women.
It’s akin to a form of preselection for men, minus the actual women he’s banging being physically present at his side to aid in the alpha judging process that all women, consciously or not, impose on their suitors.
In a very loose sense, high male sociosexuality is male sluttiness.
If you strip out the PUA nonsense about the “alpha judging process,” all this seems fairly self-evident, if not simply tautological. Guys who’ve been with a lot of women will probably do better with women in the future than guys with no experience who view women as strange alien creatures. (Note: In all this, we’re only talking about straight people; PUAs don’t seem aware that gay people exist, outside of their own fantasies of hot bi girl threesomes.)
It’s at this point that Heartiste/Roissy amps up the assholery:
Male sluttiness is not equivalent to female sluttiness. It is more difficult for a man to be slutty that it is for a woman owing to the discrepancy in worth between sperm and egg, so people justifiably perceive male sluts to have higher quality mate value, and higher quality mating skills, than female sluts for whom the act of sexual conquest is merely synonym for being easy.
In other words, it’s bad to be a female slut, but great to be a male slut:
[T]he study results confirm the validity of game when its conclusions find that male sociosexuality is a relatively powerful predictor of attractiveness to women, even to women looking for long-term relationships.
Not only can this SCIENCE!! of game help to get dudes laid – it can basically save the world from evil fat chicks.
It’s vital to readers to get this scientific information validating game out there, because there are a lot of doubters and haters who are blinded by what they won’t see. Sometimes, men need to know that there is an experimental foundation supporting all these seduction techniques and peculiarities of female behavior. It’s not necessary to know this stuff to start gaming chicks out in the field right now, but for men with a cynical bent or shy disposition, it helps to know that there are rules that govern human interaction. It may be the boost they need.
Turning former nerds into wily lotharios will help to put those uppity female sluts in their place:
[A] moment of candor. This blog is first and foremost a source of self-amusement, but it is also a true and real desire to teach and to see men succeed sexually and emotionally with women. Men who become better at attracting women increase their options in the mating market. Men with increased options cause women to behave better. Women behaving better redounds to the benefit of families, and to society.
And by “behave better”, I mean the whole panoply of awful modern female behavior: cheating, cock carouseling, divorcing on a whim, eat pray loving, straycationing, spinstering, attention whoring, voting and fattening up into repulsive dirigibles.
Yep, he did slyly insert “voting” into all that. Sneaky!
So slut it up, fellas! It’s the only way to put those evil lady sluts in their place. And, thereby, save the world from sex-having, vote-casting slatterns.
Posted on February 3, 2012, in alpha males, bad boys, beta males, creepy, grandiosity, I'm totally being sarcastic, misogyny, PUA, reactionary bullshit, sex, sluts. Bookmark the permalink. 637 Comments.
How on earth would my non-trans profile not be me?
I am a complete and whole person before you even take the ‘trans’ bit into consideration.
Of course what they don’t realize is that she can still leave them later.
I think they do realize that :\ And I think that’s when it could get really scary… remember, the whole point of PUA stuff is that in any social interaction and relationship, somebody has to be on top and somebody on the bottom… negs are about breaking down somebody’s self esteem…
And I think pretty much ALL of them really want a long term partner, they just are scared of being in an equal relationship :\
I think it’s worth digging into how nasty Roissy is to other men a bit. Obviously his attitude to women is appalling, but his attitude towards men is pretty shitty too.
Scar | February 3, 2012 at 6:14 pm
Also, I don’t like having multiple identities that aren’t me. That’s what I did for 20 years of my life and I’m not doing that again. -_-
How on earth would my non-trans profile not be me?
I am a complete and whole person before you even take the ‘trans’ bit into consideration.
I actually had a line that said I wasn’t speaking for nebody but how I felt, but I took it out b/c I thought it was self-evident xD
Neways, I wasn’t saying anything about you Scar..
I was saying for myself, that’s how I feel… my experiences are different than yours, and I just can’t do that, and that’s how I see it for myself… it’s not how I see it for others, but it’s how I see it for myself and I couldn’t do that :\
I’m guessing that if the hot wife later leaves them, that’s where MRAs come from.
But to be more serious, yeah, Roissy’s crap is basically grooming the men to be abusive husbands later in life.
I like being connected everywhere neways :)
@Ami: well I can’t help feel a little sad that you would think that having another profile where you simply never mentioned trans stuff would (from what I can gather) seem just as bad as pre-transition life.
Perhaps that will change in the future :-)
Roissy’s whole deal doesn’t seem to be about sex at all, really. He’s trying to use Game as a mechanism of social control, as he admits himself. I know some guys who are, for lack of a better word, what Roissy would call slutty if they were women, but they’re nothing like him – they’re actually doing it for the sex. With Roissy et al they don’t seem to even enjoy the sex, really – it’s all about control and scoring points. I think relationships in which they’re in control of a woman who’s been bullied into self-loathing submission is the end goal.
And, yeah, the whole putting emphasis on physical appearance aspects of This Is What A Feminist Looks like really bothered me as well. I appreciated the original message was “Hey, we’re normal people. We’re not monsters. We probably work with you, are friends with you, are related to you.” which is great. But over time, unfortunately it seemed to be more “Hey, some feminists are hot! We’re not all bad!”
I just thought “But even if someone who identifies as feminist does look like the lazy stereotypes, so what?” The point should be it doesn’t matter what a feminist looks like, it should be what they say.
Oh look feminist critics condemns women fighting back when they’re being harassed online. Lovely. I just lost all respect for that site, I thought it was one of the very few places online that debated feminism without turning into some MRA shitstorm.
Here’s the thing. Women are routinely harassed on the internet as we have seen in examples many times on posts David has made. No one gives a shit. No one defends these women except feminists, and we know how feminists are regarded on the internet. Lady Raine fought back and gave the fucker exactly what he dished out. No one else would have come to her aid otherwise. Posting his name and address might have been much, but I wonder if those feminist critics dudes think the same about register her? where is the debate on that?
I just love it when assholes whine when they get a taste of their own medicine. I don’t think many people expect women to fight back either. They just expect us to sit back and take it or try to get protection. Then when women do fight back they’re so scandalized that a woman dare call them out on their shit.
I never really intended to be this out though >_> Sometimes it gets to me, not like NWO calling me a guy or nething, that just makes me laugh xD But that I worry it changes the way ppl, like my friends, see me :( But that’s also a lot of my own issues, (that’s why I said I worry, not that it necessarily does)… but esp lately when my dysphoria is high and my self esteem is low, I get all concerned about things like that…
However, I’m not upset that I am or nething… I mean I never hid it online, and if you noticed that I had a livejournal that saidi n the profile I’m trans, you’d know, but for awhile most ppl didn’t know Ami Angelwings was trans (even with the pictures :D ) but I came out in an essay where I wrote about differences and how identities are important to people and “we’re all the same inside” narratives from privileged groups can really wipe that out… and I mentioned I was trans (I had a friends head explode actually xD but luckily he calmed down and we’re friends again… he also thought it meant I was transitioning to male XD ) and since then it just kinda is known I’m trans… but I often get worried I start getting defined as “the trans girl” or stuff (esp w/ my job now, it’s IRL too, and I think it’s harder than I expected) :| or people who otherwise would go “wow she’s such a nifty geeky sports loving girl” will go “ahhh well that explains why you like sports” or something >_>
But neways, as I said, my own issues are prolly mostly at play there and knowing that there are asshats like that in society. I guess I worry subconsciously it affects my friends too >_>
*flails*
Neways :D
I have no problem with promiscuous men, or women for that matter. We all like sex. What hacks me off about PUAs of Roissy’s ilk is the double standards and the “playing” of the other person.
If you have to psychologically manipulate or use deceptive methods into tricking someone into having sex with you, then you’ve proven yourself an irredeemable douchebag who is incapable of operating on their own merits.
I’ll save my Evo-Psych rant for another day. I’ve got a post-graduate degree in psychology and nothing makes me see red faster than when a scumbag tries to justify assholish behavior using Evo-Psych. I’m not denying that a lot of human behavior is a product of evolution, much like our physiology, but biology is not destiny.
Later, Zombie, later. Just breathe.
Scar | February 3, 2012 at 6:20 pm
@Ami: well I can’t help feel a little sad that you would think that having another profile where you simply never mentioned trans stuff would (from what I can gather) seem just as bad as pre-transition life.
Perhaps that will change in the future :-)
I don’t think it will :\ Just cuz that means either I’d have to wipe the memories of everybody, or I’d need to make another profile that’s not Ami Angelwings (which was supposed to be the profile where nobody knew I’m trans XD ) and… I’m Ami Angelwings :D
(srsly, ppl in Toronto have like seen me and went “POINT I KNOW YOU YOU’RE AMI ANGELWINGS AND YOU’RE AWESOME ONLINE” and I’m like O_O do I know you?)
I suppose that can be scary too… so far I have not gotten any “YOU’RE AMI ANGELWINGS AND YOU MADE MY HEAD EXPLODE WITH YOUR XDs AND NOW I’M HERE TO KILL YOU” though… o_o
@Cassandra
He’s said numerous times before that game will destroy feminism. How it will I have no idea. Women aint going back in the kitchen no matter how many times you neg them. Pump and dump all you want but know that there will always be men who want LTR’s and forcing them not too…well that just sounds like misandry to me :P
@Quackers
no no no what he means is that GAMES will destroy feminism…
if we’re all too busy playing Terraria, or Magicka, or facebook games, or Warhammer, or Skyrim, etc… we can’t oppress men!
also is it just me but whenever these shits talk about the horrible wimminz voting and how bad it was to give us voting rights…does it not make you want to vote so bad? I wish there was an election right now so I can stick it to em haha
I bet you most of them don’t even vote xD
I mostly operate as if nobody knows I’m trans, but that they can find out if they looked for it (in this case I mentioned it on MBZ a long time ago, and for a while here most people still didn’t know, but eventually everybody knew.. it took NWO like a whole year to figure it out xD )
Like it’s not in my profile on my blog, and I don’t mention it on Escher Girls, but if you looked around you could prolly find it. xD It’s not a big secret, but nor do I think it’s relevant most of the time.
Redlocker, it’s actually Beta of the Month… my bad.
On the subject of separate trans identities… I don’t really have the option of going stealth in terms of walling off my legal name and hiding it from the world, so the most I can do is to keep the two somewhat segregated for now (and day to day, I’m only part-time at present, certainly for work). And I’m also the sort of person who goes into the city (population 3 million) and it’s rare that I don’t run into someone I know, so stealth is going to be rather unpossible in that way as well, unless I were to pull up roots and move somewhere obscure.
I wonder though…if PUA’s are projecting and their personal self loathing is what’s driving it (I don’t know these guys personally, so I’m just guessing), what can a person do to perhaps prevent guys with low self esteem from falling prey?
*and yes I know my previous remarks about Roissy are discordant with my desire to find a way to help.
“Redlocker, it’s actually Beta of the Month… my bad.”
Ah.
Still pathetic.
@Ami
Probably not…I think a lot of them are those pompous libertarian types (sorry zhinxy not you, you know the ones I’m talking about xD) that are all “well all politicians suck and they’re all out to get me so why bother” then when someone they don’t like is voted in the whine and stomp their feet and blame the women for voting them in.
One way I know we are still living in a patriarchy…or the remnants of a patriarchy, is that there are still men who question women’s right to vote. That essays are written asking if women voting ruined government. You never see men’s voting rights questioned. You never question if men are voting in war mongering politicians…nope. Men voting is just NATURAL. Women voting is just some special privilege granted to women from some dudes that felt sorry for us or something. It’s not a natural right like men’s right to vote.
You really want to know a way to get rid of feminism MRA and PUAs? maybe stop talking about taking away one of the first rights feminists fought for! maybe then you’ll convince more people and even feminists that its not needed anymore!
“I wonder though…if PUA’s are projecting and their personal self loathing is what’s driving it (I don’t know these guys personally, so I’m just guessing), what can a person do to perhaps prevent guys with low self esteem from falling prey?”
I guess it’s ultimately…personal? I mean, one can certainly suggest psychological help or seeing a counselor, but there seems to be a stigma to that sort of thing (from what I’ve observed/experienced. :( ).
Quackers, I’ve seen posts blaming women for the Nazis being voted in.
@Pillowinhell
I wouldn’t even give them that much to be honest. In Roissy’s case anyway, I think he’s just a hateful, sadistic psychopath.
@Xanthe speaking purely online, I think it’d be impossible for me to make a 2nd identity and not mention I’m trans, even if I want to (and sometimes I feel like it might be easier for me to deal with when I feel crummy) b/c I’d want to post pictures of myself again because I need to show my awesome hats, my awesome blonde hair or my angelwings and etc and then if you recognize the photos you’d go “hey that’s Ami Angelwings!” xD
Ami, anything specific I say is probably patronizing and from a place of privilege, but I just think you’re pretty neat.
Like, you’re cool. And you’re trans. It’s like an aspect, but hardly everything.
Totally understand Scar’s point to keeps separate profiles. Some people feel better that way, regardless of the specific thing they’re keeping.
Ok, done chiming in as an outsider.
Neither of those is necessary.
Quackers, I’m really not into helping guys like Roissy. I don’t think there is help for them short of a near death experience. But sometimes I meet guys who are frustrated and bitter but haven’t hit the mysogeny yet. I know the solution would be different for each guy, I just wish I had a better understanding of how to help them before they hit PUA status. And often these guys think my fucking them is going to be the big game changer for them, since society keeps pushing the manly defined by sexual conquest theme.
@Vera awww thank you :D *hug*
I also get what Scar is saying too. I know plenty of ppl like that, and it’s prolly wiser xD But I can’t unpeel the orange, and I wouldn’t take it back neways… :D
Dammit, forgot to close the tag. Hope I didn’t break things!
I guess the idea is that if you ruin women’s self esteem enough they won’t become feminists? He really is a repulsive creature. Also, if that’s the idea, given who PUAs target, surely they’d only be eliminating the super hot feminists?
RE stealth trans identities, I didn’t realize that Magdelyn was trans until the blowup on the other thread. I’ve never read her blog, just seen her comment here, and based on the photo she could be read in multiple different ways, in which case some people will assume cis and some will just address the person in the way they seem to prefer and not make any assumptions unless the person clarifies. But I think there’s a point about netiquette in there too. Like, I initially thought that Mags might be trans, but wasn’t sure, but it never occurred to me to go dig and find out because why would you do that? It doesn’t make any difference to the way I’d interect with her here, so why bother? Part of my issue with MRAs is that for a substantial percentage of them any time they don’t like what someone is saying they seem to immediately start digging, and I do think that’s aggressive, rude behavior intended to make people feel threatened.
So I get the urge to smack Roissy down about his looks given that he does it to others, and I think the woman whose pics he posted was justified in doing the same in return, but it does make me a bit uncomfortable to see anyone doing it to him in a more general sense, because we don’t like his ideas. And if we say “lol your ideas are a joke because you’re ugly” we’re actually playing into the same mindset that allows his ideas to flourish. Does that make sense? Not only is it bad netiquette, ultimately it seems counterproductive.
@pillowhell it’s really hard to say b/c ppl are so different, and sometimes I think it’s just about them being “ready”… like I don’t think there’s nething we can do to stop ppl with low self esteem doing all sorts of things that they might regret later, except just speak out about problematic stuff that might be seductive to them… but ultimately, I dun think there’s nething more we can do :\ At some point it’s going to have to be on them to get therapy, or realize that they’re unhappy with their life and need to talk about it, or make changes, or etc :\
Quackers, I noticed Feminist Critics’ criticism amounted to pointing out that it was “an eye for an eye” – which is true, but I think more of a problem is that retaliation seems to be the only effective method of obtaining a result: WordPress or Blogger simply won’t lift a finger to censor libellous blogs short of actual litigation being brought forward in the courts, and if it gets to that point then the Streisand effect will do the rest.
The lady did have some help from another pseudonymous poster, feeding her information; and the chap was unwise enough to be interviewed by a newspaper, which published his full name, age, employer, and the name of his blog (which has since been partially redacted). Hoist by own petard indeed.
Retaliation isn’t a good strategy, but as I said, it’s almost impossible to get libel blogs taken down. People might recall a Melbourne writer, Marieke Hardy, naming and shaming her libeller on her blog when the #mencallmethings hashtag went viral on Twitter. The libel blog is still hosted on Blogger (entitled, “Marieke Hardy is scum”, no direct linky desirable since the blog occasional changes its URL). Blogger won’t take it down; last November I filed an on-line complaint, which refers you to a page saying “this blog is an example of free speech, so we’re only going to do something if you’re the direct victim of libel and you file a law suit to make us do something”.
Problem was, Marieke may have identified the wrong person (certain friends of the wrong person did their best to do some on-line harassment of their own, to try and hush up the wrong person’s name) and reportedly has had to pay out $13,000 out of court to avoid a defamation suit.
The charming world of the Internetz for women.
Ami, anything specific I say is probably patronizing and from a place of privilege, but I just think you’re pretty neat.
Like, you’re cool. And you’re trans. It’s like an aspect, but hardly everything.
Totally understand Scar’s point to keeps separate profiles. Some people feel better that way, regardless of the specific thing they’re keeping.
Ok, done chiming in as an outsider.
QFT.
The whole MRAL situation has kind of soured me on the idea of trying to help out troubled angry young men before they go MRA, honestly. In real life I might still try to help if I knew the person, but in an online sense I’m not sure how effective it is.
Then, to be frank, you’ve removed any chance you had of being of being stealth, so you don’t really have a choice in the matter :-/
That’s my point :3
I never was planning to be stealth. I just never planned for so many people to know… (nor did I plan on having a job where any agency I work with necessarily has to know I’m trans)… I also didn’t plan on talking so much about my pre-transition life (which I have to a lot of ppl on the chatbox in the past, I kinda regret that, just cuz usually that’s the part I don’t mention, b/c I worry it changes the way ppl see me, and that they see me as who I was in the past, which was a lot of me pretending, and really just killing off any real personality or wants I had and piloting a mech) >_> There’s a woman who works where I work, and she’s really really awesome and like … I’d never be that awesome xD But she was like talking about the one downside to her job and huge profile is that she’s seen as trans ALL the time, and not as [her name] first, and that that part is something that’s harder for her to deal with than she expected, and it pinged to me b/c it’s sorta what I’m dealing with too lately and explains some of the ways I’ve been feeling lately and etc >_>
That’s not a complaint about these things. I mention I’m trans b/c sometimes I feel I need to for activism online, and I love what I do and trying to make things better, change policies, make agencies safer and accessible for trans people, etc :3 I just worry it matters more to the way people see me than I think it should matter to how ppl see me e_e
Actually Lady Zombie, I’m extremely interested in reading an evo-psych rant from you. Evo-psych is something I became aware of through PUA, so my opinion of it is very low. But if there is any genuine legitimacy to it, I’d love to hear it.
My argument against it is that anything that is truly natural to humans are things that biology renders us incapable of going without. In other words, if it’s so unnatural for women to be promiscuous, we would be biologically incapable of it.
Thoughts?
Sigh… I know I can’t do anything for oline guys. Its just that it sucks when people hurt so much and I don’t know what to do….or even worse, I try to help and end up doing more damage. I can think of a couple guys I’ve known, who had a lot going for them, but I wasn’t interested in dating them and so it seemed to them I was just confirming what they already knew. I want to help, not disparage them with a pity fuck.
Occasionally, I helped a bit by acting as a dating advisor in small details or taking them out and helping them see the women who were interested, but those were really close relationships, highschool friends.
This has always been what I find so funny about rants about how women are naturally meant to be submissive. (Hi, Meller!) If that was true, it would have been completely unnecessary for so many societies to expend so much effort to force women into submission. If women need to be “trained” or “encouraged” in submissiveness, they’re not actually submissive by nature at all.
@Quackers:
There are two types of MRAs, guys in the MGTOW and that believe that feminism will be destroyed if guys go their own way (become celibate or find a submissive wife in Asia) and guys that admire Roissy and believes that feminism will be destroyed if guys become PUAs. Even if they have the same ideas about women, the two groups don’t like each other very much. Since guys in the MGTOW cannot get laid, when Roissy appeared in 2007 , a lot of them joined him. He basically mixed the MRA mythology with PUAs technique. But most of admirers still cannot get laid and they are all living a fantasy life vicariously through his blog. When Roissy was outed two years ago, he stopped blogging during a few weeks, and his admirers were really desperate. Basically the guy is a sociopath who is a failure with women (he probably never had a real girlfriend) and want everybody to sink with him and his admirers encourage him because he’s telling them what they want to hear. They really see him as a god.
A lot of the times it seems like that consciously or subconsciously they’re holding themselves hostage with this stuff too… like “if women don’t date me that I want to date me, then I’m going to succumb into total darkness and hatred” and I think sometimes when they are in that dark place, they justify it like that in their heads too “this is all their fault, if they dated me, I wouldn’t be like this!” And I think it also works on us cuz we are caring people, and even if we know that “not being able to f- who I want” is like the least important thing in the history of men’s issues (for example, volunteering at a men’s shelter would be more helpful than trying to help Nice Guys get a date) but we also dont’ want them to fall into depression, self-hate, misogyny, anger, subscribing to toxic PUA stuff, etc etc…and we want to prevent that, but I don’t think there’s nething we CAN do… b/c they don’t want anything reasonable, they want every woman who they want to f- to be there ready to f- them.
In mellers view, women are naturally submissive. Its feminists and other women strong enough to think for themselves who are unnatural, some of them try to explain it with mixed up horomones or chromosome abnormalities. Then we started forcing all those natural women to live according to our perverted ways.
If women were as submissive as Meller believes, the human species would have died out. Too many men would have been required to tell women to keep breathing for anything important like food gathering to get done.
I also don’t understand how they think genetics work…
if you have aggressive men breeding with submissive women it doesn’t mean you’re going to get submissive daughters and aggressive sons… (even if personality was a straight line to a single gene, let’s pretend) we’re not separate species, like so many MRAs seem to believe… like if you have short women breeding with tall men, you won’t get tall sons and short daughters… the genes are still there for both genders to select… >_>
I look a lot like my mom, on hormones I look like a (much taller) clone of her when she was young… by MRA ideas of genetics that should be impossible >_>
That or they think there’s some sort of “beauty” gene that just knows that if it’s expressing for a woman, she should look like Megan Fox, and if it’s expressing for a man they know he should look like Justin Hartley xD
@CassandraSays:
MRAL was already too much involved in the manosphere to helped. But I know a woman that knew fucked-up guys and prevented them to join the manosphere.
Hmm.. Amy I think you’re largely right. I guess it comes down it being easier to blame someone else than fix the situation.
I remember when I was desperately poor and working way too much, but not making enough to pay the rent and have food or anything else…I had one channel on my tiny TV and it seemed that the only thing ever on was world vision….looking at the lives of people around the world who were barely clinging to life taught me to count my blessings. Where I lived was considered a dump but by comparison it was a kings palace.
I’ll never forget the woman who was asked what dreams she had for her children. Her reply was “what right have I to dream. We’re too poor to dream”. That thought haunts me…being human in part is the ability to dream of better things…
@Amy Angelwing
You really are that blonde aren’t you? Do you really have no clue how genetics work? Why are men and women so different if genes aren’t being passed down by sex? So now almighty feminist “science” is claiming that men and women are exactly the same? If tall genes are passed down to both how come men are taller than women?
The point being, that instead of getting angry and bitter with everyone able to eat and pay rent, I chose to see it as a temporary thing that I needed to think smarter through. The hard work was already there. ( Four hours a day spent walking to and from my jobs, plus the laundry and ironing service I provided to some bachelors in exchange for a few bucks)
“I look a lot like my mom, on hormones I look like a (much taller) clone of her when she was young… by MRA ideas of genetics that should be impossible >_>”
And I look just like my Dad! Well, a feminine version of my Dad, but really, the resemblance is striking. Body-wise I have features that very clearly came from both sides of the family – Mom’s legs, Dad’s strength and coordination (my mother was awesome, but quite capable of tripping over her own feet in a brightly lit room while wide awake), Mom’s eyes (poor vision included unfortunately, though not as bad as hers), an overall build that’s mostly like Dad’s family, but Mom’s hands, etc. MRA seem to think that children are basically clones of the parent of the same sex, which is sort of baffling. Like, sperm and egg fuse, you know? It’s not like a baby girl is born from the egg and then the sperm mutates into a baby boy.
Men’s Rights Activists (MRAs) aren’t the same as Pick Up Artists (PUAs) Mantards like David Futrelle keep spreading this lie to discredit the Men’s Rights Movement (MRM) and to confuse red pill men that they’re actually fighting against feminism when they’re actually betraying they’re own fellow men.
To make a historical comparison, MRAs are the French Resistance, while the PUAs are the Vichy French! They’re traitors, cowards and collaborators and when feminism finally falls, they’ll be tried for war crimes along with the rest of you cunts.
So what are the genes that pass on personality and intelligence or capability attributes. Phenotypes like eye color or height are easy to trace and affected by human horomones and environment. Some women do end up taller than their brothers.
@CasandraSays
And in feminist genetics, men are born with vaginas 50% of the time too right?
Do you even hear yourselves?
Oh noes!! He said the word cunt! We better all run home and cry now!!
Take your death threats and shove them up your ass.
Body-wise I have features that very clearly came from both sides of the family – Mom’s legs, Dad’s strength and coordination (my mother was awesome, but quite capable of tripping over her own feet in a brightly lit room while wide awake), Mom’s eyes (poor vision included unfortunately, though not as bad as hers), an overall build that’s mostly like Dad’s family, but Mom’s hands, etc.
You must be hideous.
So I take it that MRAs are going with the baby girls come from eggs and baby boys evolve from sperm, then. Awesome – I can’t wait to see the illustrations.
My name is 3 letters long! Why can’t nebody ever spell it!? xD
Because they’re stuck in the imaginary past. If that’s not how it was spelled in TV shows from the 50s, they can’t spell it.
PUAs are just an offshoot of the same tired old misogynist crap as the rest of the MRM. Just because your tinfoil hat has a different design, it does not mean it is not a tinfoil hat.
Nephrite: Are you saying then men are always taller than women? Or that in general, men are taller than women? The latter might be supportable with good statistics, but the former is just stupid. At six feet tall, I’m both taller than many men and demonstrably a woman.
PUAs are just an offshoot of the same tired old misogynist crap as the rest of the MRM. Just because your tinfoil hat has a different design, it does not mean it is not a tinfoil hat.
And radfems are just an offshoot of the same tired old misandrist crap as the rest of feminism.
Except when we quote them you claim that you’re not.
Oops.
@Kathy
Men are taller than women. No amount of womyn’s studies will change reality. I think it’s laughable that you’re actually trying to argue the opposite.
@Cassandra But it WAS spelled Ami in a 90s TV show which was pretty popular! That has to count for something XD
Nice try dipshit. Feminism is still the basic idea that women are human. MRAs and PUA and WTFBBQevers, are all operating from the assumption that women are not human and are evil.
Even radfems never advocate for disenfranchisement of men, while all of your ilk advocate for disenfranchisement of women.
Nephrite: My name is Kathleen, first of all. Second: I AM SIX FUCKING FEET TALL! AND A WOMAN!! So, what, I don’t exist in your world?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_differences_in_humans
Read it and weep.
Ami I feel your pain. My name is extremely easy to pronounce as well as common, but everyone wants to call me Janet! I apologize for mis spelling your name earlier.
Also, confused is me…how did I get stuck in the fifties when I wasn’t born until the seventies? Am I a mutant?
OK, I bow to your knowledge of old school pop culture. Which show?
They attract the same types of guys, guys that are a failure with women.