When is a slut not a slut? When he’s a dude.
I did a search for PUA and this showed up. So, fuck it, I'm going with it.
When is a slut not a slut? When he’s a dude. So says the (He)artist(e) formerly known as Roissy, in yet another post of his trying to prove that his brand of Pick-Up Assholery is fully proven by SCIENCE!
His evidence in this case? A recent study of speed dating that showed that (straight) women, in addition to being attracted to attractive men (duh!), also seem to be attracted to men with high “sociosexuality” ratings. “Sociosexuality,” for those not fully immersed in the SCIENCE!! of dating, is basically someone’s propensity for casual sex.
In other words, the study found that guys who do a lot of casual dating tended to do better at casual dating.
Heartiste/Roissy puts it this way:
Men who have high sociosexuality (HSS) are more attractive to women because the suite of characteristics associated with HSS suggest prior experience bedding women and possession of mating skills that attract women.
It’s akin to a form of preselection for men, minus the actual women he’s banging being physically present at his side to aid in the alpha judging process that all women, consciously or not, impose on their suitors.
In a very loose sense, high male sociosexuality is male sluttiness.
If you strip out the PUA nonsense about the “alpha judging process,” all this seems fairly self-evident, if not simply tautological. Guys who’ve been with a lot of women will probably do better with women in the future than guys with no experience who view women as strange alien creatures. (Note: In all this, we’re only talking about straight people; PUAs don’t seem aware that gay people exist, outside of their own fantasies of hot bi girl threesomes.)
It’s at this point that Heartiste/Roissy amps up the assholery:
Male sluttiness is not equivalent to female sluttiness. It is more difficult for a man to be slutty that it is for a woman owing to the discrepancy in worth between sperm and egg, so people justifiably perceive male sluts to have higher quality mate value, and higher quality mating skills, than female sluts for whom the act of sexual conquest is merely synonym for being easy.
In other words, it’s bad to be a female slut, but great to be a male slut:
[T]he study results confirm the validity of game when its conclusions find that male sociosexuality is a relatively powerful predictor of attractiveness to women, even to women looking for long-term relationships.
Not only can this SCIENCE!! of game help to get dudes laid – it can basically save the world from evil fat chicks.
It’s vital to readers to get this scientific information validating game out there, because there are a lot of doubters and haters who are blinded by what they won’t see. Sometimes, men need to know that there is an experimental foundation supporting all these seduction techniques and peculiarities of female behavior. It’s not necessary to know this stuff to start gaming chicks out in the field right now, but for men with a cynical bent or shy disposition, it helps to know that there are rules that govern human interaction. It may be the boost they need.
Turning former nerds into wily lotharios will help to put those uppity female sluts in their place:
[A] moment of candor. This blog is first and foremost a source of self-amusement, but it is also a true and real desire to teach and to see men succeed sexually and emotionally with women. Men who become better at attracting women increase their options in the mating market. Men with increased options cause women to behave better. Women behaving better redounds to the benefit of families, and to society.
And by “behave better”, I mean the whole panoply of awful modern female behavior: cheating, cock carouseling, divorcing on a whim, eat pray loving, straycationing, spinstering, attention whoring, voting and fattening up into repulsive dirigibles.
Yep, he did slyly insert “voting” into all that. Sneaky!
So slut it up, fellas! It’s the only way to put those evil lady sluts in their place. And, thereby, save the world from sex-having, vote-casting slatterns.
Posted on February 3, 2012, in alpha males, bad boys, beta males, creepy, grandiosity, I'm totally being sarcastic, misogyny, PUA, reactionary bullshit, sex, sluts. Bookmark the permalink. 637 Comments.
Also part of me feels a little icky about sharing his pics. :/ Even if he’s a misogynistic asshat he still deserves his privacy.
We should probably not be picking on Roissy’s appearance, photos, etc… >_>
It’s not even an “eye for an eye” since he’s never personally attacked us either…
I would be nice enough to hand him one of those affidavits. And be thinking about someone funny like Jesse Cox the entire time.
Eh, Roissy’s completely average-looking to me. I don’t think he’s ugly, he’s just ordinary.
Until I remember “this is the same guy who advises men to do ‘rape play’ without getting their partner’s consent,” then he’s the ugliest goddamn motherfucker I’ve ever seen.
I can see your point Ozzy, but really if he’s going to sell this toxic shit, I think he should have what it takes to back it up. I’m not expecting the guy to look like Adonis, but he needs an image upgrade.
I’m starting to find Roissy really boring for some reason… PUAs in general… xD The MRAs are right, they’re not the same, PUAs actually are kinda oddly consistent (and thus eventually they’re just saying the same things) but the MRAs come up with better and better and more and more irrational conspiracy theories and plans and rebel analogies every day xD And they contradict each other like every other day…
pillowinhell | February 3, 2012 at 4:58 pm
I can see your point Ozzy, but really if he’s going to sell this toxic shit, I think he should have what it takes to back it up. I’m not expecting the guy to look like Adonis, but he needs an image upgrade.
But he talks about this stuff in the generic right? Has he trolled for pictures of other people and then said XYZ about them specifically? (I don’t know, I don’t read him outside of David linking him xD )
I think some of the MRA contradiction stems from the fact that some of the men want the idealized victorian moderately well off maiden and the others just want women to stop being human…at all.
Halite: You have to understand (and I am saddened by just how well I’ve managed to understand the mindset… I blame the Army teaching me to be more effectively empathetic). that Men can become Alpha (or at least a Greater Beta), but carefully applying, “Game Theory” to their lives.
A “True Alpha” is, of course, lucky enough to be born that way, but any man who is willing to apply himself can make up for it. Money/Power, of course, are the easiest ways (see, Kissinger, Henry), but being good looking is often enough to make up for having the proper psychological insights.
At that point the shallowness of women will cause them to not see that you aren’t really Alpha, and the “hamster” will convince them (temporarily) that they should try to steal your sperm, in the mistaken idea that they will get good spawn.
But to make it out of Beta-dom they need Game. Game is the great equaliser, which can lift anyone up about one level from their sad and sorry status. An Omega will never be able to be better than a Lesser Beta, living on the pity of Alphas and Betas, who, out of charity, will sometimes send their discarded cast-offs to the poor, deluded, souls. Their sheer determination to get out of the pit of despair is, sometimes, enough to keep them from living the life of monastic marriage to Rosie that is their usual lot.
Their only other option is to take the abusive offerings of the Lesser Beta women who are only willing to sleep with them because they can no longer trick Alphas and Greater Betas into slipping them the sausage.
That or the Omega Skanks, who were never able to get the quality cock of the Greater Beta/True Alpha. If they are willing to do that, they are too pathetic to more than mock. Because it’s better to be bitter and abstinent than to stick your dick into anything less than a Beta woman (and only if you have them as pump and dump, or in the booty-call rolodex).
Of course women, can’t ever make it to Alpha. If they are Alpha, they are. If they aren’t, there is not amount of refusing to put out which can make up for it. If they sleep with a Lesser Beta, or an Omega, they are hopelessly corrupted,and if they tell an Alpha (or even a Greater Beta) they aren’t interested, it just proves they are overestimating their Sexual Market Value.
Either way, I don’t believe in “they started it”, esp if it comes to respecting others…
like Elam has no problem trolling locked forums, finding out real identities, encouraging people to harass ppl irl, etc etc
but I’d never advocate or support anything like that towards him… -_-
Ami – Roissy used to (probably still does, I’m too lazy to check) run an ongoing thread where guys posted up pictures of women and gave their HB number ratings.
Of course it quickly turned into a one-upmanship game of “Jessica Alba has an asymmetrical face and her knees are far too big, she is beneath my standards, I give her a 6 at most.”
Until I remember “this is the same guy who advises men to do ‘rape play’ without getting their partner’s consent,” then he’s the ugliest goddamn motherfucker I’ve ever seen.
Exactly >:\
He’s ugly regardless of what he looks like b/c of what he stands for, and who he is, not his appearance.
Yes a low blow, Ami, but a Google images search for “Roissy” doesn’t just turn up photos of Roissy-Charles de Gaulle airport… the photos are out there, whether he likes it or not. And Château Heartiste isn’t exactly a blog of innocent merriment. (Another photo is hosted on Rooshv’s forum, which I won’t link to.)
Holly Pervocracy | February 3, 2012 at 5:06 pm
Ami – Roissy used to (probably still does, I’m too lazy to check) run an ongoing thread where guys posted up pictures of women and gave their HB number ratings.
Of course it quickly turned into a one-upmanship game of “Jessica Alba has an asymmetrical face and her knees are far too big, she is beneath my standards, I give her a 6 at most.”
I wonder how many guys he’s screwed up with this, where they start feeling like no girl they’d date would ever be good enough, and therefore THEY are never good enough..
so much of PUA/MRA crap seems to be really low-self-esteem guys putting their self-worth in the looks of the women they can sleep with… -_-
Xanthe | February 3, 2012 at 5:08 pm
Yes a low blow, Ami, but a Google images search for “Roissy” doesn’t just turn up photos of Roissy-Charles de Gaulle airport… the photos are out there, whether he likes it or not. And Château Heartiste isn’t exactly a blog of innocent merriment. (Another photo is hosted on Rooshv’s forum, which I won’t link to.)
So?
Ami: http://www.feministcritics.org/blog/2010/01/19/roissy-and-raine-make-a-right-rp/ He has reposted women’s pictures, yeah.
My photos are out there too if you google Ami Angelwings. -_o
@ozy that’s pretty terrible of him >_< It doesn't surprise me that he'd do crap like that tho -_-
Ami’s right, though, that what he’s done shouldn’t matter. We need to have our own ethical standards. If we played “tit for tat” with Elam we’d get into some scary, scary territory.
However, I think linking to pictures that someone has posted publicly themselves is fair game. The only thing that wouldn’t be cool is if the pictures were private and they got “leaked.”
Ami, like I said, I see where you are coming from. But the shit he spreads around…that affects every woman. I’m not tearing him down, I’m just noting that he’s a pretty normal looking guy.
The fact that he hasn’t personally trolled my pics and posted them up means little when I have to deal with men who think like he does…and there are many such men. I just happened to hit an age where I’ve become invisible to most of them. That being said, I will not be looking for further photos.
Holly: AFAIK most of roissy’s public pics were leaked by Lady Raine as revenge for posting pictures of herself and her child on his blog.
pillowinhell | February 3, 2012 at 5:13 pm
Ami, like I said, I see where you are coming from. But the shit he spreads around…that affects every woman. I’m not tearing him down, I’m just noting that he’s a pretty normal looking guy.
And the shit he spreads around should be opposed. I don’t understand how what he looks like matters. What if he looked ripped and like he could be in movies?
What if Roissy was really really conventionally hot? Are his points more salient then?
Efas google searched and found Pecunium’s picture and posted it to go “you don’t look tough, so therefore you have no credibility to be talking about strength, survival, etc”
Posting Roissy to prove that he’s not hot thing, and therefore he shouldn’t have credibility for his big talk on PUAness seems similar to me. :\
So Roissy thinks that if men are just successful enough at getting women into bed then women will spontaneously stop voting? He’s a curious creature, for sure.
On Holly’s point about the numbers, this is part of why they focus on really young women. Where would Roissy find a woman his age with a suitably low number of sexual partners, who was also super hot and conventionally so in the way that he favors (groomed and made up to shooting a movie levels)? No, if they want women with little to no sexual experience, they need them to be young. But wait! Once those women have had a few rounds on the PUA cock carousel, they’d be sluts, and thus unsuitable for relationships. Which is fine for PUA’s since they (delusionally) believe that there will always be a new crop of 18 year olds to practise negging on, but what about the young men who actually want relationships? Now the PUA’s have rendered the women their age unsuitable for dating (more than 1 or 2 sexual partners…go with me here, we’re in PUA logic land now), so I guess those young guys are just out of luck. No suitable women to date, so I guess they’ll have to just become PUAs and continue the cycle until all women have been magically persuaded of the error of their ways, at some undefined point in the future. Also, profit!
They really must be having awful sex (agreeing with Holly again), and have never had good sex, to think that inexperienced partners are a plus. Given the kind of sex they seem to be having a Fleshlight would make a perfectly acceptable substitute on a sensory level if they weren’t so obsessed with using sex to prove dominance over women.
And her child? It wouldn’t be at all okay if it was just her, but that’s a special kind of despicable.
However, I completely agree with Ozy, Holly and Ami; attacking pictures of him online, especially ones he didn’t publicly post himself, is deeply unethical.
Viscaria: Yep. Roissy is an ASSHOLE.
Amy I just finished reading his market value assessment for men. I’m also aware of other PUA sites that stress the importance of looking well put together at all times, because they are always approaching women. According to his own rules…he’s a not going to achieve his goals and he’s wearing very generic clothes when he could be a little better dressed. Maybe those pics were taken at off times, but by his own rules, he should be ready for game. Its kinda like expecting that an expert in the field of geology to have appropriate credentials.
@CassandraSays I think that aside from wanting somebody less experienced (in life and love) and easily manipulable, it’s also because they are so insecure about htemselves and being with somebody they can impress with having a car (and control b/c then the person needs them to get back home, etc) and where they have all sorts of advantages over (like financial) makes them feel like they’d be more confident, and more “alpha” and whatever things they want to feel. >__>
It’s scary that I’m applying this to dating and women but I think that’s also why they’re obsessed with youth :\
FARK I lost the rest of my comment :(
Maybe those pics were taken at off times, but by his own rules, he should be ready for game.
Why are we playing by his rules?
Viscaria, attacking? Mocking certainly, but attacking?
Yeah, I can see where Ami and Ozy are coming from, regarding posting pics of Roissy.
I say that in spite of all of the nasty shit he has done (and continues to do)…I mean, jesus, did he really leak private photos of a mother and her child? DARTH VADER would think that’s too much.
Darth Vader: Hey, Roissy, I killed several people in my lifetime and destoryed planets and all, but…dude, posting private photos of a woman and her baby? I’m gonna have to force choke you-
Roissy: Yeah, well, you’re a beta mangina. What kind of Dark Lord screams, “Noooo” at the end of Revenge of the Sith?
Darth Vader: … -_- (leaves shamefully)
…
Well, shit.
Who knew that when previously socially awkward men can successfully manipulate women into having sex with them, families will benefit?
Why haven’t any political candidates run with this one?
I totally agree that sharing Roissy’s photos is questionable, and it certainly makes me feel uncomfortable.
Sharing and mocking photos of people is exactly what a shallow moron like Roissy would do – if we do it as well, we just sink to his level. Like Ami said, the likes of Elam do horrible, vicious stuff like maliciously post personal info all the time. If we stray into that territory as well, we’re no better.
It’s Roissy’s opinions that are ugly and warrant the scrutiny, not his appearance.
Darth Vader: “The one that does this” *uses the force to choke Roissy to the cheers of all.*
I have to say, I was uncomfortable about the small-dick-mocking thing. If there was a direct correlation between dick size and how much of a douche a person is? Then sure, go ahead and mock it.
But there isn’t.
I feel a bit shamed for commenting on his looks; though I think the point is that he makes himself out to be God’s Gift to Women when he most certainly isn’t (and I ain’t just talking about looks either).
For the way he talks himself up, I would have expected much more, I guess.
But as I said, he wouldn’t need to talk himself up if he was all that and a bag of crisps.
We think it is stupid.
@Xanthe, possibly I made a poor word choice there :-$. What I meant was, attack his ideas, don’t go after his appearance, but you’re right, “attacking” is probably too strong a word for what’s going on. Mea culpa.
Fun fact: my phone autocorrects “mea” to “MRA”.
@Cassandra okay let’s try this again xD
I think, aside from all the advantages they’d have as an adult dating a child (like having more money, being able to pay for everything therefore creating the idea that she owes him something, having a car, etc) they also see it similar to how sports teams value athletes in many sports, and how “small market” teams try to compete in baseball… :\
And the sad thing is I think the analogy works because in sports, human beings ARE treated as commodities, and they are treated as a bunch of physical value traits that peak at about the same age as the PUAs see women peaking at… (i.e. mid 20s is best, after 30 things drop off a cliff, and it’s down hill from there) and the PUA/MRA types consider themselves “small market” teams compared to Brad Pitt and whoever else is stealing “their” women today… e_e The “Alphas” are the Yankees, the Red Sox, etc…
Like so the strategy is that you try to get the best young talent available in the draft, and you’re out scouting 16 year olds and 14 year olds so you can be ready to draft them at 18 and when they show potential you lock them up to deals that are above what they’d get now, but below market value of what you hope they’ll be worth if they reach their potential…
i.e. rather than compete on the “free market” with all the big spending teams for the services of the player when he’s 25, 26, 27, 28, you now have him “below market” and locked up during those years, even if you paid more for him when he was 22…
The Roissyites push that age even lower, but I think a lot of their obsession with youth also comes to that… a hot 25 year old would have tons of competition in their minds, and they’d have to be really rich, or erally hot, or really cool to get her as a g/f… HOWEVER, if you already have picked up an insecure 16 year old and all it takes is driving her places, having money, etc etc, you can groom her, control her, and when she’s a 22-25 year old hottie, you have her “under market value”…
In a way, THIS, not roissy’s fancy PUA techniques, is the way to game the “system” in their creepy little minds… it’s the Moneyball of the dating economy…
(this also shows how disturbing sports is)
Scar | February 3, 2012 at 5:41 pm
I have to say, I was uncomfortable about the small-dick-mocking thing. If there was a direct correlation between dick size and how much of a douche a person is? Then sure, go ahead and mock it.
But there isn’t.
Exactly Scar. Thanks for bringing that up b/c that was making me really uncomfortable too.
:)
To my way of thinking, the most utterly depressing aspect of the whole thing isn’t the attitude to women. That’s just pathetic, stupid, immature and childish.
It’s the men who hate themselves enough to call themselves “betas” and think they’ve got to find an immature girl with low self esteem and abuse her if they are to ever have sex.
Actually that’s my big issue with Mrs. Hooking Up Smart Woman. She really looks old enough to know better than to encourage damaged young men in this. It’s very irresponsible and uncaring of her to accept their hero worship and return it by endorsing their pathological self hatred.
Why? As a fellow trans woman, I don’t see why you do that. It’s a potential risk to your safety.
Amy, my wish to see a photo of him was a passing curiosity and probably ill considered. My thought on this is that if a woman were to post dating advice that included looking put together, I’d like to see a photo and judge how well put together she is. I’d prefer to consider the advice of someone who walks the walk.
I don’t generally judge people on the basis of looks. Its just not that important to me. But I do judge on how much what they say and how they act matter. In this case, I speculate that there is some dissonance. A totally normal human thing, but I’d far rather talk about the shit he’s busy spreading as if all humanity was a mushroom farm.
(That wasn’t meant as an attack by the way, I’m genuinely curious/concerned)
Once again the equalists shoot out their jizzbombs of stupidity.
Don’t you know it’s different for men? The most important factor for men is that they marry women who are fertile and healthy enough to bear their children– that is, slim, young, and attractive; femininity (i.e. good mothering skills) and nonsluttiness (i.e. less likelihood of cuckolding, which is male rape). The most important factor for women is twofold: that they get the sperm of a sexy alpha male who will make their sons equally sexy, and that they get the commitment of any male ready to spend resources to protect her children.
Therefore, it doesn’t matter what he looks like, as long as he seems like an unimpressed and experienced seducer. Pussy wetness uber alles.
Scar | February 3, 2012 at 5:45 pm
My photos are out there too if you google Ami Angelwings. -_o
Why? As a fellow trans woman, I don’t see why you do that. It’s a potential risk to your safety.
No pre-transition photos are out there, those are the ones I care about. And given my job, and being out full time because of my job now, I can’t really avoid people knowing what I look like and knowing that I’m trans >_> So it’s not really a risk to my safety any more than that there’s photos of Holly out there (including one on my site).
I’ve just posted pictures of me in a blog before :3 Because I need to show ppl my cool hats, or kissing Stormtroopers at a con :D Other fangirls can do that, why can’t I? o:
“Darth Vader: “The one that does this” *uses the force to choke Roissy to the cheers of all.*”
Yeah, this is a better ending.
pillowinhell | February 3, 2012 at 5:46 pm
Amy, my wish to see a photo of him was a passing curiosity and probably ill considered. My thought on this is that if a woman were to post dating advice that included looking put together, I’d like to see a photo and judge how well put together she is. I’d prefer to consider the advice of someone who walks the walk.
First off, my name is Ami.
Secondly, so, again, if Roissy was a ripped “hot” dude, then we should all give his points more credence? It’s irrelevant.
“Pussy wetness uber alles.”
Wait, what?
I do all that kind of stuff too (though haven’t kissed any ‘troopers lately) but it’s not associated in any way with this identity.
I’m certainly not the first, nor the only trans woman to have a ‘trans’ identity and a non-trans one :-)
I’m sure that you’re well aware that circumstances change and you probably won’t work the same job forever.
Just be careful, is all I’m saying – that stuff can be really hard to put back in the box later on; sometimes impossible, in fact.
If you manage to feed some very specific search terms into google, you can still find an image of me in a trans context and I really hate that :-/
He (is OzyMRAndias a he?) means “more than anything else”/”above all else”
I.e. that “pussy witness matters more than anything”
@ Ami
Yeah, I think that is part of what they’re doing. The whole “bitch shield” thing supports that idea – if a woman turns them down they think that’s bitchy, unfair, unreasonable, etc, but most kids at 16 or so won’t have developed either the confidence or the verbal skills to tell them to fuck off effectively. Teenagers are the perfect combination of naive, easy to bully, easy to manipulate, and easy to impress for their purposes. I wouldn’t put it past them to threaten to get the kid into trouble with school, parents, etc either. Plus these guys are cowards, and really attractive adults can be intimidating if they also have confidence and good social skills. I think if, let’s say Jessica Alba since someone mentioned her upthread, actually spoke to Roissy he’d pee his pants in sheer terror.
Ami, Scar and anyone else I may have offended. My apologies for making you uncomfortable. My remarks were both crude and insensitive. I will keep this discussion in mind for future thinking and responses.
I’m sure that you’re well aware that circumstances change and you probably won’t work the same job forever.
I’m actually hoping to stay in this field working in this job or a similar one. >_>
Also, I don’t like having multiple identities that aren’t me. That’s what I did for 20 years of my life and I’m not doing that again. -_-
I appreciate the concern, really, but I’m fine being me :)
I get what people are saying about him just being normal looking. Is that not what the point of THIS IS WHAT A FEMINIST LOOKS LIKE was all about though? Although it always irritated me that the other side of the message got lost, namely even if we do look like your cartoon stereotypical Milly Tant hairy-legged unfeminine feminist, so what?!?
I hate to quote someone who stands for everything I utterly despise, but Margaret Thatcher has a particularly apt quotation: “I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left.”
Urgh, I feel dirty now, but it’s so true!
I wouldn’t put it past them to threaten to get the kid into trouble with school, parents, etc either. Plus these guys are cowards, and really attractive adults can be intimidating if they also have confidence and good social skills. I think if, let’s say Jessica Alba since someone mentioned her upthread, actually spoke to Roissy he’d pee his pants in sheer terror.
Exactly, they have control over the girl and can leverage that control.
In sports, league rules allow teams to control players up to a certain age (i.e. the player cannot sign with another team unless you let them, otherwise even if they don’t have a contract, they are under “your control”)… in real life dating, stuff like what you mentioned above, being able to threaten them with telling parents, schools, etc allows these creepoids to maintain control… >:|
And exactly, again, attractive adults are intimidating, and they have more independence and experience and money, so you actually have to relate to them as another person rather than as somebody with a huge advantage. They would never feel like they could compete on “the free market” (the way small market teams can’t in baseball) so they target somebody really young and groom and control them so they can get that attractive adult after a few years -_-
. Is that not what the point of THIS IS WHAT A FEMINIST LOOKS LIKE was all about though?
I always hated that campaign when it’s used as “we’re not all ugly, hairy and butch!”
I DID like that campaign when it’s used as “a feminist can look like anybody and be anybody, it’s what you care about and believe, not what you look like”
I totally understand the objection to posting his pics, and that we should be the better person and you guys are better people than me here I admit it xD but to be honest….I think he looks like a fugly, greasy serial killer. His beady little eyes are so soulless, though that’s not surprising in the least. I’m sorry, but Roissy is one of the biggest douchebags on the internet and he deserves a little of the same shit that he’s always dishing out to feminists, fat people, gorgeous women etc. All are pics he’s posted or linked to and trashed on his blog so serves him right. His latest post is trashing an aesexual and her “beta” boyfriend. He calls her selfish and abnormal and his followers are leaving comments like “I’d ransack that tasty little tart” fucking vile. He deserves what he gets.
Besides, his pics would have never been revealed if it weren’t for the whole Lady Raine thing. He hit first- insinuated she was a porn star and posted pics of her kids. He hit first, she hit back. Fair is fair.
Lol @ him trying so hard to look young too. I thought part of his manifesto is that only women look ugly when they age, with men you can age to 90 and 18 year olds will still fuck you!
“He (is OzyMRAndias a he?) means “more than anything else”/”above all else”
I.e. that “pussy witness matters more than anything””
Ah. Well, PUA certainly isn’t the way to go, then. ;)
I think Ami is probably fine as long as her pics etc don’t link to her full legal name. I also think she’s smart enough to figure out what works for her, safety wise. But honestly, on the internet you have to just kind of accept that sufficiently determined and tech savvy people can find anything no matter how hard you try to conceal it. If you piss off Anonymous, they’ll find and post those embarrassing pics from when you were 14. Which doesn’t mean that people who do so like that dude did with Pecunium in the other thread aren’t assholes, because it’s intended to scare people, but if you’re on the internet you should already be aware that it can happen. If you’re a decent person with good netiquette you don’t do that stuff, but if Anon really want to find your social security number, they can. I think Ami is smart enough to understand all this and is basically just asking that people here use good netiquette.
@Quackers Roissy def has an issue with age. Me and Zhinxy have talked about this a bit, and he projects a LOT. He also is afraid of growing old and it’s HE who is the one who thinks his value as a person is running out of time really :\ (also he’s still stuck int he past… he thinks Gilmore Girls is still the hit show on TV that women watch)
Well, I was going to write about the ethics of a guy who used Word Press for months on end to attack a woman, “libeled her by saying she was a hooker and a drug addict” [quote], and was only motivated to take down the posts which attacked her when she retaliated by outing him… but instead, let’s take apart his most recent post, part of his regular “Beta of the Week” feature! The artiste whom we will not name doesn’t like asexuals! (He is
attackingquoting an article from the BBC.)On with the negging, you’ve got to stick the boot in immediately:
Next up to be negged is Jenni’s boyfriend Tim, who isn’t asexual, but clearly viewed as beta material:
No linky, you know where to find more of this crap.
CassandraSays | February 3, 2012 at 6:05 pm
I think Ami is probably fine as long as her pics etc don’t link to her full legal name. I also think she’s smart enough to figure out what works for her, safety wise. But honestly, on the internet you have to just kind of accept that sufficiently determined and tech savvy people can find anything no matter how hard you try to conceal it. If you piss off Anonymous, they’ll find and post those embarrassing pics from when you were 14. Which doesn’t mean that people who do so like that dude did with Pecunium in the other thread aren’t assholes, because it’s intended to scare people, but if you’re on the internet you should already be aware that it can happen. If you’re a decent person with good netiquette you don’t do that stuff, but if Anon really want to find your social security number, they can. I think Ami is smart enough to understand all this and is basically just asking that people here use good netiquette.
Thank you Cassandra :) And yeah, my legal name is not connected to Ami Angelwings… and yeah if ppl REALLY want to find stuff to hurt you, they find ways to do it.
We’ve probably moved on, but, ultimately, we’re not Batman here (as awesome as that would be). Roissy did a douchey thing, and he already got his…somehow. Continuing it further at this point would be unwise.
Honestly, I think we we’re doing better when we just mocking his ideas, and I second Holly’s statement in that it’s the IDEAS that ultimately make him ugly. I mean, shit, I’m not a Hollywood looker myself, and I can see that
@Ami
Yeah, he’s definitely having a mid life crisis of some sort. Usually that’s something people can sympathize with and understand, but he practically advocates rape and taking away women’s right to vote. His own insecurities doesn’t excuse the trash that comes from his mouth.
Not saying you’re saying it does btw :) I’m sure some concern trolls would try to put forth that assertion though…
About the THIS IS WHAT A FEMINIST LOOKS LIKE campaign, the cynical part of me thinks that having, say, Ashley Judd wear those shirts is great PR and does have an actual practical use in terms of how the mainstream sees feminism. The more idealistic part of me feels like this is throwing less conventionally attractive people under the bus, and potentially divisive. So I dunno – on a Machiavellian level presenting images of hot feminists does yield some short term gains, but it’s also not very in keeping with our deeper goals and convictions.
@ Ami
There’s definitely some grooming going on. Some of these guys do eventually want a long term partner, much as they try to hide it, and if they want one who’s super hot, the most effective way to do that is catch her before she herself is aware of that and the social power that it gives her.
Of course what they don’t realize is that she can still leave them later.
@Ami, exactly! That should be the point, that we’re all just regular people and not big scary monsters.
@Xanthe: I dunno which is worse…the content of the blog post or the fact that Roissy actually dedicates himself to writing a “Beta of the Week” collumn every week.
Please tell me he hasn’t been actually doing a “Beta of the Week” all this time…that is pathethic on a grand scale.
Misspelled pathetic, but yeah…ugh.